Bairns Start FA Youth Cup Challenge Tonight

Newcastle United Under-18s head into Tuesday’s FA Youth Cup Third Round tie against Oldham Athletic tonight, at St. James’ Park with a full-strength squad.

Kazenga LuaLua – in the squad for Oldham game tonight

Kazenga LuaLua and Ryan Donaldson, both of whom are now part of the Newcastle first team squad, return after injuries, and of course in-form goalscorer 17 year-old Nile Ranger is likely to lead the line for the home team.

Kenny Wharton will choose from the following squad for tonight’s game;

Max Johnson, Jak Alnwick, Greg McDermott, Conor Newton, Phil Airey, Jeff Henderson, James Tavernier, James Taylor, Shane Ferguson, Kazenga LuaLua, Dan Williams, Ryan Donaldson, Brad Inman, Aaron Spear, Michael McCrudden, Patrick McLaughlin, Nile Ranger, Sam Ameobi

Note that 15 year-old Aaron Spear is in the squad, and as you can see he did join us in late August.

Newcastle will remember last year going out at their first hurdle, in the 3rd round at St. James’ Park in December at the hands of Shrewsbury Town.

That’s when the visitors scored in the very last minute to surprisingly eliminate the team that had previously reached the semi-finals in the previous two seasons.

Nile Ranger – very promising young striker will lead the line tonight

So the lads need to be on their mettle, and hopefully will be able to extend their winning run to 9 games.

The game kicks off at 7:00 pm, so it would be great if you are able to get along to support the lads, and we also expect Joe and the senior coaching staff to be there to see the youngsters in action.

We’ll have a report on the game.

The East Stand will be open for supporters and admission prices are £3 (adults) and £1.50 (concessions) – and the club points out that note that due to competition rules, season ticket holders DO NOT gain free entry to Youth Cup matches.

Howay The Lads!!

27 comments so far

  • Spyro

    Dec 9, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #1

    Looking at our youth squad, it looks very strong.

  • Tom4Nufc

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #2

    Agreed, I think that a few of them should be given first team game time, if they where I reckon the result against Stoke could well have been different.

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #3

    does any 1 else still think we are being lied to that kinnear STILL wont get to pick HIS players

    for example we are after maraque it is well known that we have signed 2 argentines in the summer and almost made it 3 with aimar

    it seems weird to me that we aree after someone relatively unknown

    from where wise has his scouting network

  • Spyro

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #4

    I couldnt care less if they are his choice, i just want the players to be good.

  • keith

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #5

    but infairness to wise he has brought in a few good players so if gets a few more ( with the managers blessing ) would we complain? I know i wouldnt

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #6

    spyro keith

    i have to agree that wise has made good signings and if they are good i will be delighted

    but i just dont like being lied to

  • Spyro

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #7

    I see what you mean, but if anyone is lying it is JK, he seems to change his story in almost every interview. In honesty, i don’t think the players we sign will be JK’s choice at all…i think JK KNOWS this as well. It seems to me that JK has agreed to cover up for MA in return for a shot at managing a big club. This is just my guess though.

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #8

    Going the neet…looking forward to seeing Ranger and Lua Lua play inparticular…

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #9


    i agree especially as you hear things from kinnear such as “wait till d-day everything will be revealed amd keegan is not the hero you think he is”

    to paraphrase

    and kinnear also coming out with statements that ma wants to come back

    i was willing to forgive ma but with jfk and the board STILL lying to us i am not so sure

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #10


    do us a favour mate perhaps you could give us some info on what they are like or even record some of the matches

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #11

    Summer = Fresh Start

    Lets get this season out the way, stay up, Ashley sells…..

    New Owner, New Manager and a long term plan to get this club moving forward again.

    Anyone heard anything more about Pini Zahavi leading a takeover?….He wont knock about with two bit Tony’s….
    Very influential man in world football…

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #12

    looney toon

    that is if we are bought by the end of the season

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #13


    Not sure about recording…My SonyViewcam 1990 edition will not fit through the turnstile 😉

    Info = defo

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #14

    thank you looney toon

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #15

    He still wants out Beye lad…MA is in over his head…

    Something, in this case the club, is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it…The longer Big Mike stays in control the more it will cost him…Well thats if he aint telling porkies again about putting 20 million in each year…

    fingers croosed some of these young uns can step up to the plate in the next couple of seasons…might save the club a bob or two

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #16

    looney toon yeah

    imo ma has the right ideas his problem is communication(lack of it and when he does it is all lies)

    he executes his ideas completely wrong

    why not instead of having wise as a director of football
    have him as a technical director

    that way he focus’ on youth and doesnt interfere with t the managers first team plans

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #17

    Getting Wise to focus on the youth setup would be an excellent idea (He has brought in some very good players…Ranger and Bassong to name two young players with bags of potential)
    Problem is that little Dennis seems to think that is below his station and want to grab a slice of the first team pie….
    Sure that was how it was put across when he was appointed…That he would focus on youth…

  • The holey grail

    Dec 9, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #18

    The credit crunch is here, with recession on its way, so we are left with a reluctant owner. Other cheaper football clubs are up for sale, and not being sold. It is a buyer’s market, with Portsmouth, West Ham, Fulham, Everton and maybe even Liverpool up for sale. The sad fact is that there are no buyers.

    It is by now well known that Ashley completed the purchase on Newcastle United quickly. Having been approached by Sir John Hall over his own shareholding, Ashley with a reputation for “parking his tanks” soon set about the removal of an apparently reluctant Freddy Shepherd.

    Without apparently going through “due diligence”, he found the club’s finances in a parlous state to say the least. The club owns the stadium, but not the land it is built on, so it is questionable what the real value of the asset is. Loans taken out to build the stadium as later revealed by Shepherd, had a network of conditions attached to them.

    Under the stewardship of Shepherd, the value of the club was in decline. At the time of the clubs flotation on the Stock Market, NUFC’s financial reports showed the club to have Net Assets of around £100m. Ashley bought the club before the accounts were published in 2007. Those accounts also show that a loss was made of over £30m, with Net Assets of MINUS £16.7m – technically insolvent.

    One of the plus points of Ashley’s regime is that the bulk of the long term debt was wiped out. He could have done this in two ways, making the club indebted to Ashley, or converting to equity. Abramovic had reportedly taken the first of these two routes, leaving Chelsea at his whim whenever he chooses to leave. Ashley chose the 2nd route, saving the club an estimated £7.5m per year in interest payments.

    Other debt was in the form of Trade Creditors. Suggestions emerged from rare reported conversations with Ashley and other sources, that much of that was in the form of transfer fees, spread over a period, and guaranteed by sponsorship revenues. This seemed to be a logical explanation of why high fees were agreed for the purchases of, for example Luque, Owen and Boumsong.

    Ashley’s arrival came shortly after the appointment of Sam Allardyce as manager. Big Sam had a reputation for building a team on a budget, as he had at Bolton, taking them into the UEFA Cup. Some transfer plans were already in place, with Ashley putting in the cash to follow them through.

    We signed Barton, Abdoubale Faye, Alan Smith, Cacapa, Geremi, Viduka, and Rozenhal, all with an international pedigree and success at club level. Also signed was young Spanish defender Enrique. Gone seemed the days when we had swapped the retired Shearer for an ageing Man City reserve midfielder.

    Optimism was high, new owner, new players and a manager who some thought had potential. Behind the scenes, player wages were high, being roughly twice what supporters paid at the turnstiles. Our best start to the season for years floundered, with a brand of football that sent insomniacs to sleep. Results were to follow with 2 wins and 4 draws from 14 games.

    Then came the Ashley revolution. Sam was out, earning £8m for 8 months work. The funding for the payoff came from Ashley’s pocket. Apparently having shared the torture with the supporters on the terraces, he decided to bring back exciting football to St. James’. The catalyst for this was to be Kevin Keegan.

    Keegan’s appointment raised eyebrows in many quarters. Here was a man who, by his own admission, had not seen a live football match for 3 years. During his previous stint, the football had been truly magnificent, earning a place at the top table in English football. He was also a man who had spent £60m in the transfer market, adding value to many players, but also scrapped the reserves.

    Ashley had a 5 year plan, to develop the infrastructure and talent at the club. To allow his first team coach to coach, more appointments followed. Jeff Vetere, a scout with a CV that included Real Madrid was brought in to find talent, as was Dennis Wise with younger players. Llambias was brought in for direction with Tony Jimenez as a “fixer”.

    The 5 year plan to emulate Arsenal was born. The Acadamy clearly has the most expensively assembled talent in Toon history, with Ranger, Baheng, Kadar, Tozer and Zamblera added to a crop of local talent. The Academy is undoubtedly a short term success, having lost twice in 13 games, and having won the last 7 consecutively.

    The new structure allowed for developments within the club, as well as affording Keegan the opportunity to enjoy a family holiday whilst other managers were scouting at the European Championships. However, the blend of personalities developed into a recipe for disaster.

    We still do knot know entirely what went on during the summer transfer window, and as we wait to hear the outcome of Keegan’s claim for “constructive dismissal”, we wonder if we may never know. Sympathy is with the manager, based on his earlier reputation and a series of apparently conjoined statements from the LMA.

    We do understand that Keegan had run-ins with the board. Whilst Ashley was reported as wanting rid of Barton, Keegan stood by Joey, even though his presence may have interfered with bringing in some players. Keegan won that battle, but apparently not over other transfers.

    Even though Ashley was away in New York, reportedly seeking to invest in the film industry, the events that unfolded were clearly laid at Ashley’s feet. Someone seems to have touted round Newcastle players on transfer deadline day, signing players Keegan didn’t seem to want. We do not know if this was with or without the owner’s approval.

    Journalist Rob Beasley reported on 7th September: “Ironically, Keegan has no real animosity towards Ashley, who he believes has always treated him decently and been willing to listen. His anger is aimed directly at Jimenez, Wise and Llambias, in that order.”

    There may be clues in what really went on, with Jimenez no longer at the club. The protests that followed were in front of only one of the board in the Directors’ Box, Chairman Derek Llambias. Was he left to face the music that he conducted? Dennis Wise has also been recently reported as on his way.

    If Ashley is to stay, then things must change. The team needs investment. The reasons for a lack of success in recruiting need to be addressed. It seems funds would have been available for the likes of Modric, Scweinsteiger, Arda, Anton Ferdinand and others.

    On balance, Ashley has been good for finances, and good for the Academy. We are not a Leeds and we have a future. He may have made other decisions for the right reasons, but with the wrong outcome. Let us hope he learns from any mistakes that were made, in future making the right appointments.

    The supporters do not have to like the owner, but to get behind the team will want to know that he is acting in the best interests of the club. Even Sir John, who saved and rebuilt the club with Keegan, is resented in some quarters. Mr. Ashley, if you read this, please encourage your board to communicate. We can only get behind the club if we know what we are getting behind.

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 9, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #19

    ffs holey grale thats a lot of typing

  • Stardust

    Dec 9, 2008 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #20

    The Holy Grail – first class post

  • Southern Geordie

    Dec 9, 2008 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #21

    Is Ranger the best thing to come out of this senior, including the senior squad???

  • Stamford Toon

    Dec 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #22

    Holy Grail; a great post, one of the most thoughtful and logical posts I have ever read on this blog. I hope many of the readers take note.
    Going back to the bairns and the quality of their team does anyone think like me that perhaps Ranger could have been given some chance in the first team. Certainly in some of our games he would have been no worse than some of our forwards. The Arsenal are not afraid to give a 17year old an opportunity.

  • BT9MAG

    Dec 9, 2008 at 6:51 PM

    Comment #23

    Holy Grail – I tip my hat!

    Ed – that post should get an article of it’s own, if even to give both sides of the Ashley debate some unbiased facts!

    I completely 100% unequivocally agree with everything that is said and It’s a more concentrated, structured version of what I’ve been trying to say all along!

    Spot on mate!

  • Nick 69

    Dec 9, 2008 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #24

    why is everyone giving holy grail all this credit for his ‘brilliant post’ when it is simply an article copied and pasted from another site?

  • Piers

    Dec 9, 2008 at 10:28 PM

    Comment #25

    Ya haha thats pretty funny

  • Auschas

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #26

    Sour grapes Nick

  • The holey grail

    Dec 10, 2008 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #27

    i just felt every one should read it, both sides of the coin and all. . . .


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