Love The Challenge And As Determined As Ever

Those were some of the words Joe said today, as he reflected on his easily most frustrating weekend at the club, since he first arrived in late September.

Joe Kinnear – still loving the challenge

Joe said today:

“It wasn’t an easy weekend for anyone and it was easily my most frustrating one since I came to the club because we should have won the game. The circumstances in which we conceded the equalizer made the result really hard to take.”

“We should have killed the game off. We tortured them in the first half, and even though we lost our way in the second after Danny Guthrie went off with a nasty whack on the base of his spine, I still felt we would win the game.” “We didn’t because we didn’t defend well enough.”

“It’s tough, but I’m still loving every minute of this job, I love the challenge and I’m as determined as ever. We’ve had a setback but we’ll pick ourselves up and we’ll go again next weekend at Portsmouth.”

Joe can set the example for the players, in that whatever happened the week before, the next game is a whole new game, and the focus has to be on winning it.

And of course the good news if that we should be able to field a strong team at Portsmouth, with Butt and Guthrie back, and Duff also available, so hopefully our subs bench will be that much stronger.

It will be surprising how things can quickly turn around with a win.

Comments welcome.

20 comments so far

  • Sav

    Dec 9, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #1

    Midfield shortage that chiefly cost us the game was forseen and could have been remedied in the summer but wasn’t. Ashley’s fault.
    Joe’s inept tactical reshuffle didn’t help.
    I’d hope he would be as determined as ever – he’s only been in the job 2 months!

  • Tom4Nufc

    Dec 9, 2008 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #2

    To be honest, aslong as we can stay ‘in touch’ with the top 8 until january (in touch being a few points away!), I wont complain as I hope we will get the players we need to lift us into the top 8 and consolidate a place for us in europe as it is still acheiveable and if we do by a stroke of luck reach europe we will be a far more attractive club for potential suitors to come in with an offer! 🙂

    I know I am being very optimistic… but since when has optimism hurt?


    Dec 9, 2008 at 10:53 AM

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  • keith

    Dec 9, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #4

    all we need is a win to get us going, we are still unbeaten in the last few games so we have to take the positives ( no matter how hard it is) out it and try again, the injuries and bad decisions havent helpt but we cant make excuses

  • Punk Skunk

    Dec 9, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #5

    The ref’s been named for the portsmouth game:
    ‘Michael Mouse’!..

  • sirjasontoon

    Dec 9, 2008 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #6

    Ref revealed Goofy and Minnie as Lineswoman.

    I wish JK would shut his trap and win some games…pompey will smash us up in our current form..we just can’t win games.


    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #7

    Tactical decissions by JK and Referee and linesman blunders stuffed us yes (Stoke game), but if we can’t get any form of luck our way we are going down.

    If that happens then we are fn stuck with ASHLEY…….DAMN

    howay the lads

  • Punk Skunk

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #8

    If we just play like we did in the first half for 2 whole halfs, we’ll kick someones arse real soon…Ho’way, keep consentration you bazzas…
    …& ffs JK stick with the back 4 that was doin’ well…


    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:08 AM

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  • ronjohno

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #10

    Nothing to do with his totally inept tactics and substitutions then.
    After Guthrie injury all Kinnear had to do was move Colo into midfield holding role (has played there before in Spain) put Taylor centre half or revert to 4 3 3 as Keegan did.
    Either should have seen us through the game and maybe even scored more.
    Not rocket science that but no he has to move players out of position and totally alien to them.
    Never thoughti I would see that old man from Brazil again and he should never set foot on the Park in future. Pele could still show him a clean pair of heels for goodness sake.

  • UTD111

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #11

    I’m sick of hearing this Cashley puppet mouthing off. When is he going to deliver the results we need? That’s his responsibility as the manager – 2 wins in 10 games is relegation form.

  • boater

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #12

    If you believe Danny Guthrie is the difference between Stoke and Newcastle or 2 goals in 30 mins of premiership football you will believe anything.

    It wasn’t the withdrawl of guthrie but the panicking and lack of composure emanating from JK that screwed it up for us. The touchline thing is becoming embarrassing and the substitutions as well as a the ‘closing down’ of matches isn’t working… where’s your balls to see a job through JK?

  • KK never again (Timberhead)

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #13

    JFK is really doing my tree in he has cost us so many points this season with his tactic’s and subs.

    2-1 up Man city we have 10 men and he brings on Andy Carroll to amble about like a lost retard

    Sunderland did’nt even try to attack and then brings on Barton and Gutierrez far to late to have any impact.

    Fulham. Started with Cacapa who had a hand in both there goals to some extent as the second he went down like a fairy on peter pan the tart. Until we went 1-0 nil down he when for a shut out.

    Wigan 2-1 up Gutierrez is murderiong them and Duff is poor again. Who does he take off Gutierrez.

    Middlesbourgh the only player on the pitch that looks like scoring for us is taken out of the game to the disgust of the travelling toon army and the delight of the smogs.

    And then Saturday (“attack, attack, attack” says Kinnear) leading 2-0 Guthrie off Taylor to RB and Beye to RW and Gutierrez to CM. WTF!!!!!!!! then to compound that 2-1 game coming to an end Geremi is a rare good game is replaced by Cacapa. Beat head against a Freaking brick wall, whilst shouting bring back Jack Charlton it cant be much worse than this buffoon.

    Then there is the game against WBA he tried to throw away.

    I am really starting to lose belief w can survive this year. Somone stated we need a win to kick start things, that should have been the Villa game as we where good that night. but we throw it all away at fulham and have’nt come back and I’m not sure we will.

  • Sav

    Dec 9, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #14

    I’d have liked to see Colo moved into midfield, too. Couldn’t see the benefit of making 3 moves when 1 move will do – Total Footballers, we ain’t.
    But we shouldn’t get too het up about Joe’s blather either. Right now, like Gillette, he’s the best a man can get. Lets stay behind him for the time being.

    Had to laugh at the transfer rumours in the Shields Gazette. Davis Villa is going there, Henry and Diarra and Kaka are going somewhere else. The rumour concerning us is that JFK is having a meeting with Ashley, Wise and Llambias…..but I never believe them anyway.

  • samthecat

    Dec 9, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #15

    Relegation i would say its 50/50 at the moment.
    Rather than a Director of Football we should have appointed a Director of Sports Science to look into our dreadful injury record of recent years.

  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 9, 2008 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #16

    Think many have been hard on joe about his INITIAL changes.

    Lets think them through.

    Taylor in at right back – hes moved there before and performed well.

    Beye at right wing – He gets up the right wing half the time anyway…hes always getting crosses in and rushing back. Shouldnt be to strange for him.

    Gutierrez in the centre – Keegan himself said Guti could play in the middle. Hes a pacey player who likes running at ppl…yet because he was awful we all decide “oh hes clearly only a winger wtf is joe doing”

    Look at those changes. None of them are idiotic. He’s putting players in positions they SHOULD and HAVE performed in the past. There were many ways to do it but he chose that & it isnt that ridiculous really is it. Colo hasnt played in midfield…cacapas been crap…4-3-3 is the only other option for me.

    The REAL problem with joe for me is his RELUCTANCE to change things when its CLEARLY NOT WORKING.

    Against sunderland 2nd half we got ENDLESS pressure, same with West brom etc….Yet nothing.
    He has to realise when we’re being ineffectual. When Guti isnt performing in the middle move him back..etc dont be afraid to change things more than once….he has to learn that. Because when we’re doing rubbish he just keeps it and it keeps costing us.
    Oh and martins off for viduka was just &^%&%$ stupid. lol

  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #17

    Btw he has made ridiculous changes in the past to. But for this particular game…not many of us would have thought those players in those positions would perform so badly initially.

    It went idiotic for me when Geremi & Martins came off. As they were our only attacking escape at that point…no idea wtf he was thinking.
    Clearly just DEFEND DEFEND DEFEND.

    But again using that thought pattern we held out chelsea for 90 mins…he just wasnt aware how much of a difference bringing taylor in would make.

  • Nick

    Dec 9, 2008 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #18

    Doing an Allardyce and trying to hold on for 45 mins at home and invite non stop attack on you shows JK to be a very limited manager.

    he chose not to put Lua lua on the bench as a midfield option and then ignores 433 in favour of an alleged extra defender at home!!!

    I don’t think Jk gets the fans and 3 points for a win at all.

  • JJ

    Dec 9, 2008 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #19

    Completely agree with the people saying Joe Kinnear has cost us points through his total lack of tactical awareness and his poor substitutions on match days.
    He has cost us at least 6 points that I can recall because he is clueless with his substitutions.
    How he played Beye at Right wing on Saturday just amazes me. Surely all he had to do was bring on Viduka and play three up front with Owen playing a deeper role and the rest of the team would have kept there shape.
    He is totally useless on match day and really is not the future of our club.
    Those praising him really need their heads read.

  • ronjohno

    Dec 10, 2008 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #20


    Not once has anyone said that the difference was Guthrie coming off but that it was the simple solutions afterwards that everyone is going on about – including you.

    Try reading comments again PROPERLY.


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