Kinnear Now Hoping To Sign Five Players In January

Joe Kinnear is now planning to bring five new players into the club in the January transfer window, with three loan signings, and two players moving permanently to Tyneside.

Joe Kinnear – targeting 5 new players for January

That’s consistent with what Joe said a day or two ago, when he said he hoped to sign two new players, but of course there’s always the possibility of loan signings, which would be good, given the current situation with the ownership of the club.

He will also sell some fringe players, if he gets any offers for them.

The transfer window was also extended yesterday to 5pm on Monday, February 2, presumably so the last day is not on a weekend. But we would hope we get the new players in early January, especially the loan signings, because hopefully those deals are being struck right now.

Joe said today:

“I’m hoping to bring in four or five players, maybe three on loan,” “I don’t mind selling some of my fringe players. I haven’t any offers for them yet – unfortunately.”

“I’m talking about the players who never get on the bench, or only get on in emergencies. If we can put two or three of those together I might only get one decent one in return.”

“I’m not talking about any of the players who played last week.”

So who never makes the squad or only gets on the pitch in an emergency?    We think Cacapa, Xisco, Geremi and Edgar fit that description.

Five good new players in, and keeping most of the squad we already have should set us up well for the remainder of the season, even though one or two fringe players may be moved out.

If Joe can bring in five new players, he will have done very well indeed in Jnauary, and Newcastle fans will be hoping he can do just that.

Comments welcome.

50 comments so far

  • Ever seen a mackem in Milan?

    Dec 13, 2008 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #1 are reporting we have made an enquiry about Upson and been quoted a price of £7 Million+.

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #2


  • Geordie

    Dec 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #3

    Why on earth are we after Upon for yet again?. We have a history of our big money buys being crocked, and this guy is injured far too often. He is a good player when he plays, but his injury record does not give me any faith in him. Also, Ashley aint going to be shelling out too much cash, maybe £15 million at most, and that is including anything after fringe sales, so why are we looking to spen £7 million of that on a central defender, when that is not a priority.

    Left back we have no cover for , only Zog doing makeshift for Enrique. We have no creativity in midfield at all. and we need another striker to replace maybe Owen and the Xisco kid.

  • wigaz

    Dec 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #4

    I’d take upson like! we could get rise & a midfielder & play with with wing backs if we wanted. If he gets 5 decent buys in it could be the difference in staying up or going down. Think Owen will stay till end of season as i belive he thinks he owes us at least that.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #5

    To sell Geremi and Xisco would be idiotic, both good players.

    Edgar, Cacapa, Carroll, Harper/Given, Smith can all leave.

  • Matt

    Dec 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #6

    Why look for a centre back when we need cover for both full backs, a CM and cover for RW…

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #7

    Upson? We dont need another fcukin CB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’d sell Owen too if he doesn’t sign a new contract, we can easily survive without him.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #8

    Matt – Lualua should be cover for right-wing.

  • Spyro

    Dec 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #9


    Butt and replace with Zuculini

    Duff and replace with Bastos

    Cacapa & Edgar then replace them with Jorgensen

    Sell Smith, Carroll & Owen, replace them with Derbyshire

    Sell Harper to raise additional funds.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #10

    Jorgensen? He is like 33 and a left winger?

    Who the hell is Zuculini.

  • Guinea Mag

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #11

    Recomend selling Edgar, Cacapa, Ameobi and Smith if possible.

    Even if we sell Owen fo 3M or 5M its cheap if his goals keep us in the PL. Recomend we keep him and make him an offer he can’t refuse for the next few saesons.

    Still think Given will leave as we’ll get a decent sum for him and we still have adequate cover with Harper, Krull and Forster.

    The five players coming in must be:

    LB – Competition/cover for Enrique
    CB – Replacement for Egdar and/or Cacapa if they leave
    DM – Cover and take over from Butt
    AM – We dont have any??
    CF – Replacement for Owen, Smith and/or Amebio if they leave

  • Spyro

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #12

    Zuculini is an 18yr old midfielder who is the closest thing to Flamini at the moment. He has unbelievable work rate and can play anywhere in midfield. Best position is CM or DM though. Plays for Racing Avellenada although i have never seen him for them. I saw him when he played in the U-17 world cup and he was fantastic.

  • Spyro

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #13

    Jorgensen is an 18 yr old CB/RB who plays for FC Copenhagen. He is fast and unbelievably strong. He is a highly rated youngster out in the Danish league, they expect him to be the next Agger apparently.

  • Bill F (Original)

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #14

    One thing for certain, it’s pointless any of us, or Joe for that matter, having a wish list as large buys are out. It will be even worse if this Bradford guy buys the club because it would take all of his personal money to buy even two halfway decent players. Unless we get a real billionaire to takeover the club we need to stick with the devil we know and he does actually have an interest in us, whereas the Bradford bloke seems to see us as more of an investment opportunity.

  • Turkish Magpie

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #15

    Tom Toon- agree with all your comments except the sell Owen bit, if Owen finds clubs want him he will start playing better and scoring more goals

    which helps us

    1. More clubs may take interest and may force a bidding war.

    2. We cant survive without him easily because he’s the club captain, get rid of the captain and suffer concequences.

    3. The longer we keep him the more goals he’ll score and if he starts scoring loathes of goals it’ll save us from relegation

    4. it’ll also give us enough time to decide what we want to do with other players and maybe persuade him to sign a contract ( something like qualification for Europe)

    5. He can provide experience to younger promising strikers, Ranger,LuaLua

    6.his goals would help us qualify into Europe by Cup or league and that may persuade him to stay

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #16

    Have you actually seen these players?

    Or did you just get them off that new site IMScouting. Only found it today.

  • Spyro

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #17

    Bill F

    I want to stick with MA. I found out some good info last night concerning what we have spent etc and he has done nothing wrong on that front.

  • Spyro

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #18

    i have seen Zuculini and was reminded of him by going on that site, but i was told about Jorgensen by a Uni international student who told me to look him up on IMS. the only reason i even know about IMS is because i was informed by a few Dutch international students. One of them is even a paying member and has a proper account on it. What a site eh.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #19

    It looks interesting but some of their players to watch are garbage I have Moteab numerous times and he is terrible.

  • Spyro

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #20

    I dont mean to be dismissive TT, but these are professional scouts mate. I am not saying they are never wrong, but the information is compiled over a period of time based on the data they haved gathered when going to see them play. Whilst you may think they are garbage they might in fact have certain aspects to their game that are recognised as a cut above the rest. I am talking about attributes and characteristics that may be slightly more difficult to find in players.

  • oga

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #21


    Giles Barnes


    Experienced Centre Back (Offer Cuellar 1st team football)
    Goal Scoring Right Winger (Move Jonas to left)
    4th choice central midfielder (Carrick mould)
    And depending on how the youngsters develop, a different striking option.

    1st choice would be buzzing, plus there would be adequate back up in every position.




    Back up: Beye, Bassong, Taylor, Enrique, Barnes, Nzogbia, Guthrie, 4th mid, Xisco, Ranger, Lua Lua,

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #22

    Professional scouts?

    No it isn’t it is based on opinions submitte by people around the globe.

    Moteab in particular is on par with Smith.

  • stualdinho

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #23

    Anyone to replace Nicky Butt! Weve got the worst cm in the league!

  • Colin

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #24

    Spyro // Dec 13, 2008 at 11:18

    Bill F

    I want to stick with MA. I found out some good info last night concerning what we have spent etc and he has done nothing wrong on that front.

    Well what a surprise….NOT!

  • Spyro

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #25

    No you are right, professional scouts USE the site, the site is

    “…created, and is constantly updated, by a network of football experts based locally across the globe…”

    TT you are not trying to suggest you are more knowledgeable than these people are you? 😀 That would be ludicrous.

  • Sav

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #26

    Of funds are that tight (I’m sure they are), why spend more than half our budget on a Centreback when that is not our most urgent position, even though we do need to strengthen there?

    If we’re shopping at the Boleyn, I’d rather Collison or Noble (or both!).

  • Rob

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #27

    Joe Kinner talks too much about tranfers, only 2 weeks ago he said he had 2 people lined up from big clubs, turns out that was nonsense!!

    riise and denilason…ha ha

    full of it I am afraid, how many good manager talk about the people they are goling to buy?

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #28

    Football experts aren’t scouts.

    And I’m not going to listen to these people, so called ‘scouts’ have bought teams useless, utterly useless players in droves in the past, I’d rather trust my opinion over them and yes, I am confident I’d be better than a fair few scouts.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #29

    Also, naming the players to watch as prospective players for us is stupid, like naming 18 year olds who have been looked at by huge clubs, we have no chance.

  • euanpolo

    Dec 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #30

    Zuculini is very good on FM09, and Everton are going to use the FM database for scouting!

    So based on that I would sign:
    Razvan Rat
    Oscar Cardozo

    A few youngsters maybe:
    Nicolas N’Koulou
    Rodney Sneijder (Wesley’s brother)
    Eyong Enoh

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #31

    Cardozo is good but too slow for the Prem.

    Rat is a good left-back but there are better.

    Never seen the others.

  • Spyro

    Dec 13, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #32


    Calm down, why so defensive all of a sudden lol. TT, you are now demonstrating the arrogance which has left you open for attack so many times on here. Also, i very much doubt you have even 10% of the knowledge these people do. That is no insult, it is just the truth. You are no scout, in fact, i have a hunch that you use the IMS site a lot more then you let on lol, but lets leave it at that shall we.

  • Turkish Magpie

    Dec 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #33

    if its a Cm we want why have we never mentiioned Appiah?

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #34

    Your hunch is wrong.

    I only found it this morning, I swear on my mothers head I did not even know it existed until I search one of the players you mentioned in google and there was a link to IMSouting – play to watch web page.

    They are not scouts on there, scouts may use it, but the writers are not scouts.

  • Geordie

    Dec 13, 2008 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #35

    Listen, Owen will not hand in a transfer request, so if the club cashed in on him in January for £3-£5 we would have to pay him almost £2 million to pay off the remainder of his contract.

    Whatever happens we have made a loss on Owen. It would be suicidal to cash in on him, as he is our ONLY goalscoring threat we have at the club. Getting rid of him for a couple of million is just madness.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #36

    Spyro – Basically I am not going to mention any player or give an opinion on any player I haven’t seen.

    And I trust my opinion over some parts of sites like that one, I’ll have to watch the player first to form an opinion.

    Scouts do not run the site.

  • Danish_Magpie

    Dec 13, 2008 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #37

    Spyro: No way Mathias Zanka Jørgensen is going to be the new Agger. Not in my opinion. He is pretty highly rated here, but honestly it would be 2-3 years before he would be anywhere near PL quality. If he came on now, he would get eaten alive. He still looks a bit out of his depth sometimes in the Danish league…

    Btw: Agger is god, and really undervalued in my opinion. So assured on the ball, no-nonsense in his defending, great age, and has all the attributes you want in a central defender. On top of that he has a first-class attitude.. Boy how I would have loved if he had signed for us.

    In my opinion, both him and Skrtel are better than Carragher, but obviously that’s three great CBs right there. I am envious.

  • jonny_rubber

    Dec 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #38

    i’m sure the rules say that you cant have more than two loan signings at anyone time and not more than four in a season.

    so as we already have nacho on loan we would have to terminate his loan deal to be able to get 2 loans in, but 3?

    unless jk has a loop hole in the prem rules 🙂

  • O'Hurley

    Dec 13, 2008 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #39

    Tom Toon-

    “Edgar, Cacapa, Carroll, Harper/Given, Smith can all leave.”

    Really? Given?!?! Are you serious? Surely that was a typo…

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 13, 2008 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #40

    No, it wasn’t, one of them needs to leave for our younger Gk’s sakes.


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