Sunderland Win Again To Go Above Newcastle

After today’s games Newcastle are in 15th position in the league, dropping one place, with of all clubs, Sunderland having moved above us.   🙁


Phil Brown – Hull have 7 points from last 9 league games

Sunderland had a terrific 4-1 victory at Hull City, with three goals in the last 12 minutes, to record their second successive victory and scored another four goals again in the process.

That should help spur on Newcastle United tomorrow, so at least in that way we are pleased.

Sam Allardyce also made a good start at Blackburn with his team winning 3-0 at home to Stoke City, and they were 3-0 up at half time.

That was the same half-time score in his first competitive game when manager at Newcastle, when we were beating his former team Bolton 3-0 at The Reebok at half-time, in our first league game of last season.

The only result that really went our way today was Aston Villa beating West Ham at Upton Park 1-0, although the Hammers had most of the play.

But then on 78 minutes, former Newcastle youngster James Milner’s shot deflected off Lucas Neill, and ballooned into the net over stranded goalkeeper Robert Green – a goal you concede only when you are having no luck at all.

It was very unlucky on West Ham, to say the least, and former Newcastle player, Craig Bellamy, looked sharp again for the London side this afternoon.

Portsmouth looked hopeless again at Bolton and the 2-1 win by Bolton hardly reflected the Lancashire side’s superiority, and Fulham won another game, by easily beating Middlesbrough 3-0 at Craven Cottage.

Jimmy Bullard, who just may interest Kinnear in January, was the star man and scored Fulham’s first goal after 40 minutes. The London team are now 8th on 24 points, 5 points ahead of Newcastle.

Many teams can be drawn into the relegation zone for this season, but watch out for the three promoted teams.

WBA are bottom on 12 points, with a game tomorrow at home to Man City, who themselves are now 3rd bottom on 18 points, one point behind Newcastle.

Stoke City are one point above Newcastle on 20 points, but with a much worse goal difference than the Magpies (-13 vs -2).

But keep a watch on Hull City, who are starting to fall off from their good start in the league. They are still 6th on 27 points, but in their last 9 league games they have just 7 points.

In the six league games before that they took 16 points from those games, so they are on their way down the league, we think. Put another way, they had 20 points after 9 games and now have 27 points after 18 games.

And Sunderland beat them 4-1 today in a similar game we’ll be playing in the 3rd round of the FA Cup in early January, so hopefully we should be able to get through that fixture. Kinnear seems to fancy our chances, in any case.

It obviously didn’t help Hull manager Phil Brown today, that he was born in South Shields, and was a Sunderland supporter, when growing up.

If we can get 3 points tomorrow, we can move up to 11th place, depending on the other results tomorrow.

But if we can get our second successive win in the league against Spurs tomorrow, we’ll be doing just fine, thank you very much.

Howay The Lads!!

42 comments so far

  • ziad

    Dec 20, 2008 at 8:45 PM

    Comment #1

    a win 2moro is a must!! any word on Martins??
    I hope we can get the 3 pts and start looking to the european places rather than relegation zone …

  • safferusa

    Dec 20, 2008 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #2

    This is going to be the tightest season in years, I can see goal difference deciding european spots, relegation and even the title! We need to attack and go for big wins, draws will get us nowhere so we should be less cautious!

  • Spyro

    Dec 20, 2008 at 9:23 PM

    Comment #3

    It is best that we stop waiting and hoping for other teams to lose as it clearly isn’t going to happen this year. We aren’t going to be helped by other poor sides like we have been in the past. So the fans and players just need to pay attention to themselves and make sure we do the job.

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM

    Comment #4


    1 of the smartest comments ive heard on here

    for me a lot of the pressure on managers from the fans starts when we look at other teams can you remember last year and how well city were doing and how much pressure big sam was unfer

  • Toon_Ksk

    Dec 20, 2008 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #5

    Who cares about Sunderland. We got our own worries.

  • ToonPhill

    Dec 20, 2008 at 9:43 PM

    Comment #6

    Gutierrez is gonna be the player that is gonna give the toon the strengh n skill to earn vital points. hes awesome. i bumped into him whilst waitin to meet wor bobby robson in the metrocentre. didnt speak a word of english which wasa pity coz i tried to tell how awesome i thought he was. heres a pic of it

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 20, 2008 at 9:56 PM

    Comment #7

    Gutierrez speaks very good English. Have you not heard all of his interviews?

    He speaks better English than Smith.

  • Spyro

    Dec 20, 2008 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #8


    You didn’t really meet Gutierrez did you? as TT said, he speaks very good English

  • Spyro

    Dec 20, 2008 at 10:20 PM

    Comment #9

    That is not really you is it?

  • Spyro

    Dec 20, 2008 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #10

    Just watched the reserve highlights. Andy Carroll and Ameobi have got decent left foot shots and Godsmark looks a tricky winger.

  • ditto

    Dec 20, 2008 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #11

    phil brown is a newcastle supporter!!!
    he said so before they played much he hurt to see club way it was. not a dirty mackem.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #12

    JFK has only ever mentioned Tozer, Kadar, Lualua and Carroll in reference with the first team. It seems he rates Kadar the most.

    Good news.

  • ToonPhill

    Dec 20, 2008 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #13

    well if he speaks english, he didnt then. him n his mate never once spoke to me in english. and i did talk to him but he spoke back in spanish. and as the pic shows, i did meet him

  • ToonPhill

    Dec 20, 2008 at 10:59 PM

    Comment #14

    course its me. you lot r cynics like

  • Spyro

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:09 PM

    Comment #15


    Fair enough mate, im just jealous that i will never be fortunate enough to walk through a shopping centre and see any NUFC players 🙁

  • ToonPhill

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #16

    actually, my mate thought he was an ice cream seller on the millies stand at first 😛

    go to tesco in kingston park. my mam works there, she sees them all the time 🙂

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #17

    I know Darren Bent, but thats about it.

    Played badminton with him once and seen and spoke to him a fair few times.

  • ToonPhill

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #18

    if it is millies tht sells the ice cream 😛

  • Spyro

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #19

    I see so many Spurs and Arsenal players it is unreal. My friend goes to Hertfordshire Uni and they are always around St Albans. Especially Diaby, Toure, Diarra (when he played for arsenal) who go to a mosque in there. I have seen Taarabt and Bale in a North London Tesco and i saw Dawson, Bale and two others who i didn’t recognise whilst playing at a Top Golf in North London.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #20

    Ye, but I am kinda ‘mates’ with Darren Bent 🙂 haha.

  • ToonPhill

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #21

    carl corts wife is banned from kingston park tesco for life. she thought coz her bloke was loaded, she could just push to the front of any queue. staff told her she had to wait like every1 so she started screamin at ppl n staff. im sure she hit one too. this all happened when he played for us

  • ToonPhill

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #22

    tell him tht toon r gonna win tomorrow then tom_toon mate

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #23

    He alreasdy knows it 🙂

    Got to say though, I have a really bad feeling about the game tomorrow.

  • ToonPhill

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:41 PM

    Comment #24

    im optimistic, have a good feelin. even without oba

  • Spyro

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #25

    I predict a draw tomorrow

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #26

    Bore draw, 0-0.

  • toony soprano

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #27

    he spoke pretty good english when he served me my peri peri chicken in nandos

  • Spyro

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:50 PM

    Comment #28


    I would be happy with a bore draw tbh, we would have another clean sheet and keep our unbeaten run going.

    I predict 1-1

  • Geordie Jayne

    Dec 20, 2008 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #29

    ditto you are wrong m8 – Phil Brown supported Scumberland re quote from BBC

    “Hull City said they would reject any approach from Sunderland for their manager Phil Brown. Brown, who supported Sunderland as a boy”

  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Dec 21, 2008 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #31

    ditto-phil brown actually used to go and watch both newcastle and sunderland as a boy apparently. However after an altercation in SJP he apparently decided to pursue supporting sunderland moreso than newcastle. He mentioned it all in an interview he did earlier this season, before our game with Hull at SJP maybe.

  • Ausgeordie

    Dec 21, 2008 at 12:37 AM

    Comment #32

    Jonas looks like a samurai with that haircut……I apologise to any that might consider that comment racist….he has been called a gypsy by fans from other teams….but I guess its not a problem unless he brings his religion into it…in which case it would definatly be racist…..hang on im confused now.

  • Ausgeordie

    Dec 21, 2008 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #33

    This is a must lose game! Everytime we says its must win we lose for Shearers sake so lets says it’s a must lose and then watch the magic happen. I think we are going to beat them proper tonight!!

  • Turkish Magpie

    Dec 21, 2008 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #34


    a must lose game lol

  • Tripp

    Dec 21, 2008 at 1:38 AM

    Comment #35

    Howay the Spuds? Sorry Ausgeordie, it just doesn’t sound right.

  • Mac

    Dec 21, 2008 at 1:43 AM

    Comment #36

    Yeah we’ll lose this 1 for sure

  • 51times

    Dec 21, 2008 at 2:41 AM

    Comment #37

    ToonPhill – Maybe he just didn’t want to talk to you, so he pretended he couldn’t speak English. That’s pretty harsh.

  • k k forever

    Dec 21, 2008 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #38


  • k k forever

    Dec 21, 2008 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #39


  • k k forever

    Dec 21, 2008 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #40

    JOE KINNEAR, Newcastle United’s caretaker boss, has sensationally confided to friends that he would love to be a candidate for the managerial vacancy at Sunderland


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