FT: Newcastle 1 Liverpool 5 – Liverpool Supreme


Newcastle United got a lesson in football this afternoon, as a magnificent Liverpool side, although missing their in-form striker Robbie Keane and Spanish striker Fernando Torres (thank goodness), were just too classy for a plucky but very ordinary looking Newcastle side.

The Newcastle side started off well, but then the first 30 minutes was a succession of superb saves from Newcastle’s brilliant Irish goalkeeper Shay Given.

It seemed it was Liverpool vs Shay Given, and at least in the first half hour Shay was up to absolutely everything Liverpool could throw at the Irish international goalkeeper, who looked like he was performing like a Superman.

Liverpool had 5 good chances in the first 30 minutes, and they were all brilliantly saved by the Irishman.

If Shay isn’t the best goalkeeper around, we’re not too sure who is better.

But then Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard made the breakthrough with a shot that went in off a post, after missing a couple of earlier chances.

Then on 36 minutes from a corner, 35 year-old Finnish International Sami Hyypia, who still more than a decent center-back, headed powerfully past Given to give some semblance of fairness to the score.

But then right before half time Newcastle scored through young David Edgar who headed powerfully home from a corner, and Newcastle seemed to be right back in it, when the half time whistle blew, after being utterly outclassed in the first half.

But a fair score at half time could well have been 4 or 5 goals to one for Liverpool, so dominant had the Reds been, and it was only because of the absolute brilliance of  Shay Given in the Newcastle goal that we were not dead and buried by half time.

In the second half Enrique, who was injured in the first half again, was replaced by Charles N’Zogbia at left back, and Ameobi came on up front to give the front line some physical presence.

The next goal was always going to be important, but it was a sloppy goal to give away.  Newcastle failed to clear their lines from a corner, and Babel poked the ball hone, when any one of 3 Newcastle defenders should have kicked the ball clear, with the ball one year from the goal line.

Geremi came on for Butt shortly into the second half, and Nicky could do little in midfield this afternoon, up against the talented Liverpool players.

Geremi had a free kick after 60 minutes that rattled the cross bar before going over – a great effort from the Cameroon International.

But Liverpool were an in-form side this afternoon and Newcastle just couldn’t hold the Reds as Steven Gerrard got clean through and chipped the ball beautifully over an exposed Shay Given to make it 4-1.

Then the inexperience of David Edgar, who had a decent game at the back for the Magpies, shone through as he clumsily brought down Liverpool substitute David Ngog.

Alonso made it 5-1 from the penalty spot, and we were now hoping Liverpool would be satisfied with five this afternoon, and then just before the final whistle, there was still time for the mercurial Shay Given to make another great save.

This time it was from Brazilian Lucas Leiva, who had a free header from just 3 yards out and should have scored, and but Given blaocked his shot.

We were second best this afternoon and the Newcastle crowd were sensible enough to remain quiet at the end as the lads tried their best, they were just not good enough against a Liverpool side who seem to be at the top of their form.

But it does show we have a long way to go to challenge the top teams, and perhaps five good players in January will help us improve the squad, but we must get some central midfielders into the club.

But it’s not the Liverpools or Chelseas we will be beating this season, and it’s the Wigans and Stokes that we have to ensure we all get all 3 points from.

This was a sobering game for the Magpies, as Liverpool looked to be streaks ahead of us in everything they did.

In retrospect this was probably a fitting end to a terrible year for the club, and the faithful Newcastle fans.

And just when we thought we may have a decent defense, we’ve conceded 7 goals in our last two games over the festive period, so there is still much work to do in that area by Joe Kinnear.

And you can hardly wonder what Michael Owen is thinking now, when his former team are so much better than Newcastle. No wonder he’s uncertain about his future on Tyneside.

But we have to hope that things can only get better from this point on, and if we ever thought we had a decent team, we can think again, but at least now we can make sure we get some good players in during next month.

Keep the Faith – there’s not much more we can do at this point.


Newcastle United: Shay Given, David Edgar, Jose Enrique, Fabricio Coloccini, Steven Taylor, Nicky Butt, Danny Guthrie, Jonas Gutierrez, Charles N’Zogbia, Damien Duff, Michael Owen (c)
Subs: Steve Harper, Geremi, Xisco, Shola Ameobi, Tamas Kadar, Andy Carroll, Kazenga LuaLua

Liverpool: Jose Reina, Sami Hyypia, Daniel Agger, Steven Gerrard (c), Yossi Benayoun, Dirk Kuyt, Ryan Babel, Javier Mascherano, Lucas Leiva, Emiliano Insua, Jamie Carragher
Subs: Diego Cavalieri, Robbie Keane, Albert Riera, Xabi Alonso, David Ngog, Nabil El Zhar, Martin Skrtel

Referee: Mark Halsey
Attendance: tbc

111 comments so far

  • wsq

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #1

    Ashley out, Shearer in!

  • toonderry

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #2

    new year new start

    toon 4 life

  • kukubird

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #3

    ed: we were second best?

    we were shite!

  • wsq

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #4

    things can only get worse with ashley and his team on board. we are very backward.

  • A.L 9

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #5

    that was hard to watch to be honest

  • dougnufc

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #6

    i dont like this. what a way to end a year.

  • JonnyNUFC

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #7

    Notes for all this:

    1: Butt was truly awful & provided no cover for our defence. He is no longer good enough imo

    2: Colocinni falls apart and becomes indecisive around Taylor, yet good with someone sturdy like Bassong

    3: It made very little sense to play two small men upfront against liverpool. We consistantly try to pass to Owens head & it is a serious waste

    4: Why was Carroll not given a single chance after doing so well against Wigan in that small time? When do you give the lad a chance ?

    5: If Ashleys staying on we’ve 0 chance of Shearer becoming manager anytime soon also.


    If #6 does not happen NONE OF US can have any defence for the man any longer. It will be INEXCUSABLE. DO NOT TOLERATE IT.

  • Xisco Stu

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #8

    The ‘Don’t be a Patsy’ ad is very appropriate right about now.

    We had better see some good investment and results over the coming weeks or we really find ourselves back up the creek without a paddle.


    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #9

    We were not shit! Stay on the ground. Yes, liverpool was far better, but we do not have to mess us with them! They deserve to win the league, so they’re in another dimension for us at the moment. Wigan defeat hurst more!!

    Well, anyway. We now need to do some very good business in januar, quick! Then I’m confident of making a step forward in 2009. Let’s stay together and do it UNITED!

  • DanToon

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #10

    Well I don’t really know what to say, that’s probably the worst display I’ve seen from ANY team this season. Liverpool are class and that wasn’t even there best eleven, just shows how bad we really are when we have a few injuries. I keep saying it but Kinnear is not the man for the job, no way! (I know he couldn’t do anything about today but I still stand by it).

  • Xisco Stu

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #11

    Completely agree Jonny.

    We have to be looking to win each of the next 7 league games and go on a good unbeaten run again. If we could win 4 and draw 3, we’d be on 39 points and we could all breathe once more.

  • spenaldinho

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #12

    just hope we spend

  • Toon1978

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #13

    The fault does not lie with JFK what so ever. He has his hands tied with a tight arse in charge expecting miracles. Ashley needs to get his scouts out and about the north east and he needs to bring in people who want to play for us.

  • micepie

    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #14

    When I woke up here (New York time) the game was over. I’m pleased about the MA news, shell shocked about today’s result. I thought we’d lose, but hopefully by just a couple.
    I don’t think Liverpool have the best team in the Premiership by any means, but they work fantastically hard and that gives them a chance to be champions.

    Like everyone else will be saying, it’s time for MA to commit with funds as well now. So many teams are in a similar position to us in the league and a lot need to invest,

    I don’t know if I can use this site much longer, as it keeps crashing both my home computer and my laptop. I think there must be something in one of the adverts causing some kind of mini-virus? I explained before that a multi-cascade of blank windows pop up in a manic frenzy and the computer freezes. Only when I’m on this site, no other, and several times over the past few weeks it’s happened so I’m out of here – at least for the time being.


    Dec 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #15

    We have to spend and we will spend. Don’t forget also that we are running on the bare bones!! And that’s for 3 games in 7 days, which just is crazy!

    Don’t paint everything in black – we also got white stripes on our shirts 🙂

  • JoshNufc91

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #16

    completely outclassed by a liverpool side missing some top players. hope they win the league to be honest they were fantastic. gerrard is different class but was made to look even better by the fact that no one was tracking him. wrong team choice/formation from kinnear although who would of expected anything from this game?
    and to all those who think coloccini is class….think again, he looks average at best. spidermans having less and less impact in every game.
    on a positive side however…given is immense.

  • North Atlantic Magpie

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #17

    There is always panic in defence when Taylor is on the pitch. Butt was terrible too, he gave the ball to Babel, so he could score easily.
    Duff is not good enough and Owen is too lazy.

  • Sham Sword

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #18

    I think Owen would be the dumbest man in The World If he Accepted A New Deal because Newcastle Needs A whole New Midfield before playing A player Like Owen .. Newcastle now needs players like Martins who can run all across the field not a player who waits the ball in the penalty Area .. i do believe that Owen Is The Best Goalscorer in England but he needs a Team Who creates chances for him He’s no longer the 2000 player .. i’d say owen with arsenal for example would be a match made in heaven


    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #19

    Hm, strange…how can you critizie Duff again? And even Gutièrez, who was apart from Given our best man on the field?

    I agree, that for far too long Butt was our weakness now and we need to change that in the window. Zoggy was also horrible again…he’s just not good enough…so let him go and bring in a winger who can cross and does not run always against the opposites wall to loose the ball!


    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #20

    Ah and for Owen: He looked very good only when Martins played beside him and created something for him. How much would I have loved to have Martins with Cisse up front…but that’s not happening.

    We need Martins back, he’s the best striker we have – he shoots even from outside of the box and his shoots are always scarying goalkeepers!


    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #21

    And how desperately do we miss Barton…oh dear…so I would go all out for a central midfielder to replace Butt and for another left footed defender.

    To get two players in the january window is already more than good!! Of course we need more players, but in january it will be difficult…

  • Baaldy

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #22

    Been here before many times ower the last forty years lads n lasses. Blessing in disguise today. Shows very clearly where we need to spend. Good luck to Liverpool, hope they win the league. We will bring in a new face or 2 and just have enough to stay up I reckon. I obviously would much rather have WON 5-1 today but lets put it behind us, get behing Joe and the lads and make sure we have premier league football here next year. As for Mike Ashley, he has ballsed it up massively so far but I have a sneaking feeling in 3 years time he will be watching us in Europe and be one of us. Dennis Wise however…..Never

  • Nick

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #23

    Our demise can all be traced back to Shepherd and his appalling decision making. Not only giving sub average British managers the gig, but then giving them millions to waste in the process.
    Which other, at the time, top 4/5 club would have employed Souness, Roeder and Allardyce!!!

    I thought Ashleys’ one saving grace would be to instal a top foreign technical coach, but we end up with the old Wimbledon, Sunday pub team manager, without the wit or invention to spot the obvious and be reactive , let alone pro-active .

    We now have a heep of has-beens on stupid contracts ( Butt, Duff, Owen, Geremi, Viduka, Cacapa, Smith,) some complete liabilites like Taylor , a really tactically limited manager with no PLAN B and the icing on the cake, an owner you can’t believe a word he says.

    In fact an owner who turned down the Abu Dhabi group as he had the best interests of the club at heart !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Greedy b……d

    Shay needs to go now to save his sanity. For now, why not play a 3-4-3 with a sweeper and bring our top kids in.



    Jonas Colo / Edgar (DM) Guthrie Jose/ Zog


    Experience is no good if people are on their last legs !! Bring on the kids.

  • ToonKing

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #24

    No idea why some people are blaming Ashley…..admit it KK was not the man to take us forward……neither is Kinnear to be honest.

    We were beaten bad that’s for sure but it wasn’t the worst performance by any means, Wigan was much worse.

    We need to invest in a CM and a LB, give a few youngsters a chance and drop Butt and never ever play Taylor at CB again.

    We won’t go down that’s for sure, let’s just ride this season and we’ll see what happens in the summer. Many players will end their contract then and we will have a completely new squad.

    Let’s just get behind the team and hope for the best.

  • Toon1978

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #25

    Notice that the two North West sides in Liverpool and Everton have turned and nearly turned over the North east teams. I cannot understand this at all. North east football is going down the pan yet we have the best Boys clubs in Wallsend boys in the country. Look local mr Ashley there are many many cracking players.

  • JoshNufc91

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #26

    the home fans are also sh*t, we never get behind the team these days. people started chanting and clapping at 4-1 and 5-1 down, but when were winning(not very often) or drawing(until we concede a goal) its silent!!! we have the best away fans and the worst home fans. truth.

  • Toon1978

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #27


    We have not won a home game in weeks mate what do you expect we have been smashed to bits by Liverpool. Newcastle United were an embarrassment to themselves and the fans. NONE OF THEM DESERVE A BLOODY PENNY IN WAGES.

  • garyfret

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #28

    i dont blame jk for this result the team was weakend so it was always going to be a hard game i just hope ma gives joe some cash to get the players we need 5_1 is embressing but keep the faith and hopefully we will get back on track soon enough

  • neeraj

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #29

    look at the positive side

    january is coming
    sunderland are losing
    spurs are drawing have a man sent off
    west ham and stoke are in a stalemate….

    we need 4 first team players and a back up players

    left back
    right back (back up)
    def mid (starter and backup)
    1 centre back
    1 right hand side winger

    jonas is much better on left hand side and duff as a good back up

    even if it means selling n’zog

  • Brazilian Geordie

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #30

    I don’t think we have to continue acting like that. Because every game we win the players are superb, and when we lose it’s all Ashley fault.

    Hey man, the team were missing many players today. And also Joe Kinnear opted to risk everything after half-time taking Enrique off and puting in Shola.

    And opt to things like that against Liverpool is always dangerous.

    I think we were today a poor poor side which were really humillated if I can say that.

    But that’s not the end. We were on a 6 games unbeaten run and still have a good team. But obviously we have to streghten to things like that doesn’t get repeated.

    I still hope can do something and are a real difficult side to beat, and the game today was just a different situation which can be used to learn our weaks whatsoever.

  • M.Stockley

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #31

    its npt jfks bad, with injuries he had few options against the best team currently in the league….we were crap yes, but we have lacked strenghth in depth for some time. in jan we need to recruit and if ashley is gonna stay and be accepted he has gotta prove how serious he is next month, cuz 1 or 2 new players simply wont suffice. we need a handful….we need someone creative in the middle, who can make something happen…. we need a solid holding mid too a lb and id get shut of dukes, smith, ameobi and bring in a couple of new hungry strikers…. you know what id be tempted to bring in another cb too, maybe versatile player such as scharner from wigan.

  • JoshNufc91

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #32

    i dont mind losing as long as the players try their hardest, did they today? did they sh*te.
    we need an attacking midfielder and a defensive midfielder, butt and guthrie arent good enough. need another winger. need a centre back to play along side bassong. need a left back cos enriques a joke. need a striker and a back up midfielder.

  • JoshNufc91

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #33

    so we dont need an attacking midfielder?
    we dont need someone better than colo?

    its not just the liverpool game though mate every time we score or were in the lead or anything good at home it stays silent, we used to have good home supporters who were behind the team and on the oppositions back making it a difficult place to come, but now its like sitting in a f*cking retirement home man its b*llocks.

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #34


    we were poor i think butt struggled

    he cant play 2 games in a row

    especially if those 2 games are in the space of 3 days

    i would like us to sign o’hara imo extremely underrated at spurs from what i have seen

    then we need ARANGO

    but back to the match

    we only had 1 decent player 2 day and his name was given

    despite leacking 5

    we lacked passion and common sense defensively

    and going forward we lacked creativitey pace strength and hieght

    then throw in liverpool and you get a deadley cocktail of being what we were today

  • Baaldy

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #35

    Just looked up wor remaining fixtures. We may lose on May 2nd but apart from that it is all wins and draws giving us an extra 35pts and a total of 57. Ne Botha lads.

    Swearing Joe’s Black n White Army!!


    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #36

    Hm, actually we only lost 1 place…got away with a blue eye? Well, it’s all soooo tight this year! West Ham at home will be crucial again.

    What do you think of the idea to get Sakho and pair him up with Bassong to get Cloccini into the defensive role instead of Butt (althought I guess JFK for whatever reason likes Butt). Possible? Anyone?

  • JoshNufc91

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #37

    if newcastle are looking for players in the championship then what do you lot think of stephen hunt from reading? good tricky winger who’s proven that hes a canny player….£4m-ish for him….

  • JoshNufc91

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #38

    can people not see that coloccini’s not good enough?

  • Magpie forever

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #39

    i find it hard to take beaten so heavily beaten by a very average liverpool team take out gerrard and wat have u? we were made a fool out of by players like lucas who i heard an analyst call him the worst ever brazilian to play football and kuyt who is f**kn useless i heard anoter analyst say he wudnt be given the ballboy job at barca.But wat annoys me the most is using players like the following
    even though some of these boys were not playing they are just not good enuf.Ive heard all this shit that guys like carroll and enrique wil get better but we have to face the fact if we keep playing these players mentioned above they are causing other players like coloccini bassong beye n’zogbia and martins who try their hardest on the pitch to fall apart and got to shit.There was such a difference in coloccini today without bassong beside him.when u thing of the performance he had with bassong at chelsea.We have to face the fact that players like owen duff or viduka are holding this club from moving forward.The only way this club wil ever move forward is to stop buying wasters like xisco and get the Mascheranos of this game.

  • Toon1978

    Dec 28, 2008 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #40

    If we are looking for a cheap way out buying players from the C/C then the C/C is were we will be and belong. Ashley needs his head sorted if he thinks like that.


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