Time For Ashley To Deliver In January


With the news that Mike Ashley will remain Newcastle owner this morning, hopefully the Newcastle club will now have some more stability than we’ve had over the last four months.

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Kinnear – let’s move forward

Hopefully in the new year, the fans, Kinnear and the players can all start pulling in the same direction, and that has to be good for the club, after one of the worst periods in our history.

There will still be some fans who would have hoped Mike Ashley was no longer at the club, but if we are going to move forward let’s support Joe and the team.

Hopefully Mike Ashley will have the wisdom to soon appoint Chris Mort as the long term Chairman of Newcastle, and that would go a long way to further stabilizing our famous club.

But Ashley has to show he is willing to spend some cash to improve our squad, because it hasn’t been big enough for a couple of years now,onit to mention we don’t have enough top class players.

Newcastle manager Joe Kinnear after our hammering by Liverpool this afternoon, talked about Ashley staying as owner of the club.

Joe said:

“It’s a positive move – he wants to look forward. We don’t have to worry about who’s buying the club – we know it’s not for sale now.”“I think we need to draw a line under it and get him back on board.”

“Now he has made that statement, the next statement is going to be the most important one.”

“We need to sit down and discuss the future of the club, the strength of the team, and what direction we are going.”

With the transfer window opening in January, we must bring in some new faces and freshen up the squad, and if Kinnear thinks players are not good enough, then move them out.

Not surprisingly Joe Kinnear is anxious to bring in new faces and added:

“We need to get players in to strengthen the squad and make sure we stay in the league, first and foremost.”

“We have suggested players to Mike that I would like and it’s really wait and see what price they are.”

Joe has to move quickly in January and strengthen the squad, and then he still has to prove he is the man for the Newcastle job beyond this season.

Our two games over the festive period have got us no points at all and we’ve conceded 7 goals and scored just two – so our goal difference is now back to -6, and we’re not far from the relegation zone.

It will depend on how well Joe does in our remaining 18 games of the league, since after 20 games we have only 22 points, and of course that just isn’t good enough.

At the same time last year we had 26 points, so it’s nothing that a win streak in January couldn’t correct.

Next weekend we have Hull away in the 3rd round of the FA Cup, and then our league games through February 1st are

West Ham H
Blackburn A
Man City A
Sunderland H

So there should be at least two wins in those – at least.

A good January in terms of results, and some decent new players brought in during that time, has to be the goal for next month.

Let’s hope that Joe Kinnear and the Board will be able to deliver.

Comments welcome.



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135 comments so far

  • toon24/7

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #1

    get him out, please toon fans dont forgive him, he is waiting until a bidder comes in then he will be gone, with his 250 mil GET ASHLEY OUT

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  • mikeygd

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #2

    shut up toon24, fans like u that will get us relegated. lets bring back keegan da sulk too

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  • darren

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #3

    Oh, get a grip!

    He clearly cannot sell the club. He’s also unlikely to invest in the club unless he feels he’s part of it.

    Seriously, what the point in abusing the current owner of the club?

    The previous plan was to ‘get him out’. It seems that’s not possible, so what do you hope to achieve now?

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  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #4

    Joe must be loving it, thats him got the job in a permanent basis

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  • Spyro

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:25 PM

    Comment #5

    Are you not happy with that Ross?

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  • M.Stockley

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #6

    if he is staying in charge he must put his money where his mouth is… he talks about the best interests of the club, well mr ashley new faces is gonna be essential or we’ll be down…we need some quality, established premiership players who can offer us something….. id like, upson, baines, bullard, bellamy…..these arnt even superstars they are just good footballers who i know would improve us. i understand why people wouldnt want bellamy back, but he did always deliver and loved the club and i think hes grown up a bit.

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  • beyethegreat

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #7

    i would forgive ashley under 1 condition

    HE TELLS THE TRUTH FOR ONCE

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  • hadrian

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #8

    guess this means yes man joe is along for the ride aswell after this season ?

    i want to see some money spent on the squad this winter .
    then in the summer , a new chairman , a new manager and wise out , with some more investment in the squad .
    none of this sell to buy either , granted some players will go , but this club doesnt run at a loss, surely were to see that money at least ?

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  • pancho

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #9

    It’s obvious we’re going backwards so let’s hear (read) Ashley’s plan and hope it includes Joe’s replacement.

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  • simon376

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #10

    I’m with Ross and far from happy about Jo getting the job, he is useless. I’m not just talking about this game either, I had already written it off. I agree with toon 24/7, I want Ashley out and think if he gets an offer he will sell up. Just at the moment, nobody has that kind of cash and if they do, they are not stupid enough to spend it onb a football club

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  • bill

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #11

    It might help if the guy would speak to the fans through their elected representatives; that is NUFC.

    However, despite two letters inviting him to discuss events surrounding KK’s departure and the lack of quality players that have arrived since he bought the club, I think he owes the fans an answer to many questions that I can think of right off the top of my head.

    Some people may be for forgiving him for what he has done to our club but I would be very careful when dealing with this man because people that tell lies are not to be trusted. let us wait and see what quality players he brings in during the transfer window, because if he doesn’t we are in big trouble.

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  • NotAGhostToon

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #12

    KKforever and Toon24/7 are you actually real fans? or do you sit there whinging that things aren’t going your way, we’re supporters, support!

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  • simon376

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #13

    NotAGhost. I agree, support the team, but everybody has a right to be disgusted about how our club and our money is being run and used. At the moment and for the past few months, its been shocking. But I’m still at every home game and some away supportint the team, but far from happy about the way the club is being run to the ground

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  • Simo

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #14

    Sell Owen before he leaves on a free in the summer.
    Sign Boyd (Less than 5m), Baines (3m) & Bullard (about 4m).
    Given
    Beye
    Colo
    Bassong
    Baines
    Guttierez
    Bullard
    Barton/Guthrie
    Boyd
    Martins

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  • StevieA

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #15

    Mike Ashley has always tried to spend money but it’s never really came off before except for Colocinni, Jonas Guttirez and Xisco. I know of several deals for Woodgate, Modric, Aimar and players of that quality that didn’t work out for us.

    I don’t think we can go and spend 15 or even 20 million on 1 player anymore but I don’t think you have to. If you look at the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal they show that you don’t have to spend 20+ million to find a quality player and that’s how we need to approach bringing players in.

    If we can buy say 3 or 4 for around 6-8 million each and they are the right kind of players with a good attitude then they could make a big difference to our team.

    Having seen how we played against Liverpool I think we need the following in January.

    Left Back (better than Enrique)

    Right Back (potentially as good as Beye)

    Centre Back (to replace Steven Taylor – he seems to breed confidence in the opposition players and also doesn’t blend well with Colo, the recent improvement in defence has been down to Colo and Bassong playing so well together).

    Defensive Midfielder (to replace Butt) this player needs to be skillful, tenacious and someone who doesn’t mind getting forward when he can. Someone like Viera, I remember a young french lad we were linked with called Sissoko recently and he would fit the bill perfectly.

    If we get those players in then we could do well but it’s essential we strengthen the squad.

    Other possible signings? Perhaps a quality striker on loan would be a good move? Maybe someone who is overlooked by a top european club?

    Mike Ashley needs to give us the funds to bring in 3 or 4 6-8 million signings. We have already heard recently that we have bids in for 4 players at 6 or so million each so I think he is thinking along the same lines as me. We need investment that’s for sure, now is the right time.

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  • bill

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #16

    Spyro,

    If we continue at the same point gathering rate to the end of the season we will be relegated.

    Joe Kinnear for me is not the solution, he has steadied the ship but he has not taken this team on to where it should be by now. Having said that he has been put in a difficult situation by MA.

    He has steadied the situation but he has only gained 18 points out of a possible 45, and that is relegation form.

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  • toon24/7

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #17

    notaghosttoon, yes i am a fan and a very pissed off 1 the day, i watched the most embarracing football match ive seen in years and i heard ashley took the club off the market, are u a fan mate.

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  • Norwegian fan

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #18

    For Gods’s sake. The man has splashed out quite a lot of money. NUFC has no debts. Liverpool owners have 3 500 000 £ of debts. They have to pay 350000£ in interests every year. Maybe they’ll have some problems soon. We have to admit and acknowledge that Ashley is the owner. He wants the best for the club. So the sooner we admits this the better. Let the man show what he means before you keep on shouting about a quitter like KK.

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  • beyethegreat

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #19

    norwegian fan

    i accept your points but where is his honesty

    i would be 1 of those slating kk if ma had been honest about it but he wasnt and im on kks side

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  • Little Willie

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #20

    It’s the same line used every January but…

    IT’S HARD TO GET QUALITY PLAYERS IN JANUARY.

    2 players in if we’re lucky.

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  • darren

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #21

    With regard to KK and MA – there is ongoing legal action so neither can say anything.

    Surely you can’t hold that against them?

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  • GeordieJamie

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:56 PM

    Comment #22

    18 points out of 15 games would see you clear 40 points in a season so not quite relegation form. It was the results under hughton which have us in this position. Don’t get me wrong Joe hasn’t done agreat job but its hardly suprising given the clubs perilous state.

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  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:56 PM

    Comment #23

    spyro-its not that i’m unhappy with it, i just think im apprehensive. i fully agree with the fact that he’s done an excellent job since arriving and deserves a proper crack at it, i suppose im just still in the mindset that he was only going to be here part time and we’d get someone else in. however i was also convinced ashley wasnt going to sell so i dont really know what i expected to happen

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  • Alex

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #24

    He has took the club off the market so that we are more appealing to players in the transfer period , no player would come to the club with the for sale sign hanging above the stadium . He knows that without some new players in we are struggling and he wants to protect his investment . While most of us would like a new owner he is a least trying to get us out of the mess that he helped to create and we are going to have to accept that he is here to stay until we save our premiership status . i just hope that in January he invests in enough quality players so we can start a move up the table . 5 proven prem players is what is needed LB ,RB , 2 midfielders and a target man , lets face it Viduka is finished and today proves that Jk does not think that Carrol or Xisco is up to the job . Its going to be a interesting January.

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  • Little Willie

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #25

    Keegan lied too Beyethegreat, he was the one telling us there was nothing wrong while the press were right all the time, he also could have walked earier in the Summer but engineered his departure to cause us the most damage.

    Keegan lying is worse than Ashley because I had full faith in him to do whats right.

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  • simon376

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #26

    Of course we still have debt, that was admited by Ashley and harris. The mortgage was paid off, but other debts are still there. Ashely hasn’t done that much for us apart from bring in a poor forgotten about manager and no cash

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  • bill

    Dec 28, 2008 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #27

    NotAGhostToon
    Fans should not support teams blindly. When you can see what is being inflicted upon your club by someone who has absolutely nothing to do with the club it does irritate somewhat.

    MA says that the club should be run as a business; well if that is the case, why is it that we are the only ones to do so. Football is a passion, it’s not about good business. If it was a business I wouldn’t bother paying out £1700 every year to watch it.

    Manchester United and Chelsea pour money into their clubs to get success, and both are hundreds of millions of pounds in debt. Who would you rather be watching every week?

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  • Spyro

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #28

    Bill

    I personally feel that with a few extra players (versatile defender, defensive midfielder and attacking midfielder) JK will do a good job with us.

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  • nufckev

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #29

    well here we go again , a bunch of idiots running , OUR CLUB, some of you lot think ashley is going to slpash his well, OUR CASH THE FANS PAY THE WAGES ,you are in for a shock yes we might sign a few donkeys but he will offload plenty aswell to make a nice profit for himself, after being there and watching that today i really fear for us and poor sir bobby robson had to sit and watch that shower of shite that ashley wise and kinnear think is a good team well they put it together we will see ,i hope i see him or wise the little drawf because i will do time for the pair of arseholes, GET ASHLEY AND THE REST OF HIS COCK NEY S OUT

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  • toon24/7

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #30

    great comment bill

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  • Little Willie

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #31

    Simon.

    The only debts the club have are those that are owed out on transfers that were paid over the length of a players contract, they are interest free so not worth paying off until earlier.

    The stadium debt and other bank debts including the overdraft to buy Owen were all paid off.

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  • Norwegian fan

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #32

    Let’s talk after January. I think MA is honest, but naive. He’s done wrong with his appointments, but I think he’s learnt his lesson. Just see how Liverpool fans are struggling with their owners. After all he is british and that should count. Remember how engaged he was among the fans…
    Everybody can do mistakes….So as I said, let’s wait till February before you blame him further….

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  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #33

    notaghost-i wasnt whining about Joe, my last reply to spyro explains how i feel. however yes, i was whining earlier through sheer frustration about how pathetic we were today.

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  • nightfall

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #34

    sell:

    smith
    owen
    viduka
    shola
    butt
    geremi
    taylor
    harper
    ———————
    for let say 20 mil

    buy:

    sakho
    onuoha
    veloso
    gourcuff
    gomis
    _______________
    for 35 – 40 mil

    players we should sell cost us 450 k /week = 23.400.000 per year

    players we should brought in would cost us 200 k/week = 10.400.000 per year
    ____________________________
    so we’d save up 13 mil per year and our squad would be:

    given/krul
    beye/onuoha colo/tozer bassong/kadar enrique/sakho + edgar
    jonas/lualua barton/veloso gourcuff/guthrie zog/duff
    martins/ranger gomis/xisco + carroll

    1. 10 x better squad then what we have now
    2. all (future) internationals
    3. sakho, onuoha & veloso can also play as CBs ( in case of injuries)
    4. in the next 5 years we’d have only beye & duff to replace
    5. martins, gomis & xisco could play alone up front (in case of injuries)..especially with that midfield
    6. we could assemble that squad with no money invested ( 20 mil for players we should sell + 13 mil per year saved in wages)
    7. in 3 years time we’d play in champions league
    8. today would be the last time livepool beat us
    9. who’s with me? 😀

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  • craig chisholm

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #35

    just got back about two hours ago from watching the game and we looked like a pile of shit and thats the truth. we look like a mid table fizzy league team at best. we have no quality at all other than given and owen. owen is leaving obviously as he gets no service at all from anyone. our midfield is half too old and half just a kid. our defence is ok when we have our first choice back four, when one of them is out we are shagged again – like today, taylor is back up at best. our attack is a joke. owen is going, so is viduka and he never plays, smith – say no more, ameobi, jesus. we have a crap team, thats the truth. we should have lost by about 10 goals today had it not been for shay. ashley needs a real left back, a world class centre half, a world class mid field marshall and dynamo – gerrard embarrassed us so much today. they were men and we were kids. up front we need a target striker to play off martins. we may aswell forget about owen, his head will be up his arse now for his last few weeks. all in all, ashley needs to cough up maybe 50 million or so. judging by his previous record – 2 million in three windows i would say its not going to happen. the good thing is now that the fat greedy owner of ours has admitted we are no longer for sale (and never really were unless he could get 400 million), ashley has to face the fact that his complete lack of senior top quality player investment has turned us into total pap. investing in the youth is great but we need to also have for the here and now too. the kids will not keep us in the prem, neither will heart and spirt – only quality will do that. quality outs, every time. WE HAVE NONE.
    i hate ashley, always have and always will, it does not matter though at the minute, what i want is a well run club that can compete, if ashley delivers on bringing in the players of the quality needed to keep us out of the fizzy league then fair enough………..i just dont think he will, the bloke wants to have his cake and eat it at the same time. he wants top four with no investment, it just does not work like that. paying off debt will not keep us in the prem, he needs to stop looking at the cheap options constantly and for once in his life dig deep into his pockets and make real money available. otherwise its down and out for us. we all know this.

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  • ronaldeano

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:07 PM

    Comment #36

    I recon if MA got the right offer, he would still sell it. If the offer was from an individual or group that were willing to invest a LOT of money into the first team.

    Lets face it, we are doomed if we dont get more quatity in. I cant see MA doing it tho bacause he is a greedy fat pig

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  • JonnyNUFC

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #37

    What happened to Joe kinnear working on defensive situations 4 days a week with the lads ???

    Did this not include corners or anyone outside the first team ??

    Some of the defending was a joke as usual with us.

    But on a POSITIVE note. A lot of the game coming up are winnable……but we need some fresh legs on there.

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  • ronaldeano

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:09 PM

    Comment #38

    @Craig Chisholm, you are spot on mate

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  • Little Willie

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #39

    Man Utd are in debt because of the Glazers taking out a loan to buy the club in the first place, apart from that they are ran as a business, as are Arsenal who have had no handouts from anyone and so were Liverpool until Hicks and Gillette bought them.

    The problem with debts is you have to pay them back in the end, but if you even come across a Geordie Abramovich then point him in the direction of SJP.

    As for nufckev – You remind me of one of those drunks on a night out who tell the police you pay their wages, football is a business and if you don’t feel as if you’re getting value for money then stop.

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  • JonnyNUFC

    Dec 28, 2008 at 8:14 PM

    Comment #40

    Agree very much with you Craig.

    Tbh we shoud just let Owen go, i was watching some of the lads earlier goals for other teams…even for us when shearer was here. He had a huge smile, ran off with his arms aloft.
    Now he barely smiles when he gets a goal, probably usually because we’re 2-0 down at that time already.

    But we need a big man upfront.
    The days of Shearer & Ferdinand were best for us, both Big strong lads….thats what suits us. I really dont think we’ll ever be playing like arsenal…we need someone who can smash in those headers or hold up the ball well.

    The likes of Viduka, Butt, Geremi etc are far to old now. At their best they would have done so well for us…..but they’re far past that.

    Owen in another side would thrive…for us hes nonexistant as we cannot get the ball to his feet. Our central midfield is to uncreative.

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