Kinnear – I Am Hurting As Badly As The Fans Are


Joe Kinnear knows only too well now, that the Newcastle United fans are very special to both the club and the City of Newcastle Upon Tyne – join the club.

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Joe Kinnear – I’m hurting as badly as the fans are

Joe has only lost 3 game sat Newcastle before yesterday and each one of them was by one goal, and until yesterday at least, we had eben competitive in every game he had managed at the club.

But yesterday changed all that and we wonder how much of a shock the performance was to Kinnear, probably more than he’s willing to say.

Joe told the Newcastle Evening Chronicle today:

“The fans are not fooled easily and they know that we need strengthening after this game.”

“They also know that we won’t be playing Liverpool every week or up against somebody like Steven Gerrard, one of the best players in the world, every game – he was head and shoulders above everybody else.”

“He got a standing ovation when he went off and that shows what a knowledgeable crowd the Geordie folk are.”

“They have seen so many good players at this club in the past and I think they were spot on when they gave Gerrard an ovation and the rest of the Liverpool players at the end.”

“To applaud them at the end was absolutely right.” “Our team fought against them but in the end couldn’t compete.”

Joe’s right to say the lads in black and white gave everything they had – they did – and it wasn’t for the want of trying yesterday – they just weren’t good enough on the day.

And it’s even that the Newcastle Crowd knew that, so there were no boos at the end or anything like that, because it was simply that Newcastle were played off the park by a much stronger outfit, and had nothing to do with the effort given by the Newcastle players.

But Joe Kinnear doesn’t like losing and it’s not too often a Joe Kinnear team gets taken to the cleaners, as Newcastle were yesterday.

Joe continued:

“I am hurting as badly as they are.”

“It was probably the darkest moment I’ve had to suffer, but I’ve got the say I thought the fans were sensational.”

“They stayed with the players right to the death.”

“It was a wicked result to go against us, but we’re literally threadbare with players.”

If Joe is who we think he is, he’ll be back on the training ground this week, drumming it into the players they have a chance to resurrect things on Saturday.

We expect to see Newcastle come back strong against Hull City, and a win that takes us into the 4th round of the FA Cup would be a nice first step to help fans get over yesterday’s terrible loss.

And we think Senastien Bassong should be back next Saturday, as his suspension should have only been for one game and not the three games as has been reported in some quarters – like surprisingly on the official Newcastle United web site.

So there’s some good news for us all.
Comments welcome.



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50 comments so far

  • Obaman

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #1

    alright guys, who do you think we can bring in this window to make the squad better?.. personaly id like to see cattermole from wigan in cm, a lb- would love bridge and a right winger coz all we have is left sided ones.

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  • Obaman

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #2

    also if bullard is going id take him. dream cm would be arteta but i no we wouldnt get him. i do think cm is the main place we need strengthening though

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  • keith

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #3

    think baines would be a great addition and would love bullard if his wage demand was reasonable, think cattermole would be a good signing but dont know how the fans and some of the players would take to him

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  • Obaman

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:37 PM

    Comment #4

    i dont rate baines. how old is he? do you think we could do with a striker as well? like with duke always being injured a big striker say someone like heskey?

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  • Turkish Magpie

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #5

    keith- i would only sign Cattermole to stop him injuring players

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  • Bill F (Original)

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #6

    See that Gerrard was arrested for an affray last night, pity it wasn’t before our game, although I still think they would have killed us even without him.

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  • neil09

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #7

    Mentioned on a previous post. How about Royston Drenthe from Real Madrid on loan?

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  • Obaman

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #8

    i feel hed be to lightweight for prem. maybe im wrong. doesnt he play down the left as well?

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  • keith

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #9

    haha turkish magpie that would stop that! plus sign ryan taylor as he always score against us!

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  • neil09

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #10

    He does Obaman. I was thinking he could rampage down the left. Did he play leftback, left winger or wingback during his time in Holland?

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  • Obaman

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #11

    i think he plays mid. but weve got zog n duff and also guti prefers the left apparently so i dont see the need. i would love to have lennon on the right wing.

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  • keith

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #12

    lennon would be a good signing, would love to see crouch at the club, think he is a great player

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  • neil09

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #13

    If he plays left midfield, then yeah, we don’t really need him. Zigic i would certainly go for. Then we could shoot Ameobi, the Duke and Smith and claim on the insurance.

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  • Obaman

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #14

    pompey are looking to see players…

    crouch and oba would be good. i think we should sell owen if we get someone in like crouch

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  • neil09

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #15

    mhmmm I wonder if we could tempt Roy Keane to come out of footballing retirement? couldn’t do any worse than Nicky Butt.

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  • Obaman

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #16

    lol im not sur ehow keane would go down. should we look a city for players. sturridge, johnson elano?

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  • keith

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #17

    zigic would be good as well, go for a little and large combination

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  • Obaman

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #18

    i say crouch because we know he can deliver in the prem.

    sell – owen, carrol, smith

    buy – lennon crouch bridge and bullard

    a boy can dream

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  • keith

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #19

    i would keep carrol, give him time, would love bridge but dont think him and lennon would come here or just cost too much, bullard would do a stellar job for us

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  • Obaman

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #20

    zoggy plus money for lennon? i think spurs would go for it as they have bentley on the right and little on the left

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  • xisco biscuits

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #21

    i’d take a punt on adriano on loan in january, he’s one of the worlds best on his day! kevin doyle, ebanks-blake and gomis would be other good options to replace owen (who i think we should look to offload in january if we can get anything over £5m)

    i’d also like elano on loan with a view to a permanent loan. michael johnson of citeh is also a very good player although he is apparently struggling with the pressure at the top level. veloso and would moutinho would be fantastic if we could somehow pull it off

    i’d also make a move for ryan taylor – 1. to stop his scoring against us, and 2. he’s versatile, and 3. i think his contract is running out

    kightly is destined to be a top player and i’d love him here but unfortunately i dont think wolves will sell as they’ll probably go up

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  • keith

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #22

    kevin doyle would be another good signing, of wat ive seen of gomis i wouldnt rate him, ryan toylor is another good player, also been impressed by that ishmel miller of wba anytime i seen him, strong big and fast

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  • Amsick0fthis

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #23

    kightly n the other kid from wolves cant think of his name also some good young players at cardiff
    mcreedy looks to want out of celtic

    we are desperate for some midfielders but unless man city have a clear out like michael johnson cant see too many clubs selling midfielders

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  • ObaMartins

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #24

    Joke Kinnear you could never ever Hurt as Much as a Newcastle Fan, stop this BS ….Ashleys Puppet

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  • xisco biscuits

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #25

    good shouts there lads – ledley and roger johnson at cardiff both look good players. ishmael miller is a real handful and could be a top player if he works on his finishing. mcgedy would be a good replacement for zog if he jumps ship

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  • Sav

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #26

    “The fans are not fooled easily and they know that we need strengthening after this game.”

    The fans are not fooled easily and they knew we needed strengthening before Keegan was forced out.
    We also know that as Ashley cannot sell the club, withdrawing it from the market is totally meaningless.
    We need actions not words from Ashley.

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  • craig chisholm

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #27

    we need just about an entire new squad i think with the exception of given and colo. everyone else that played yesterday should be allowed to go ONCE we have found better players only. we need to put oba before owen now too cos even though i love owen he now represents the past and we need to concentrate on players that will still be wearing our colours next term. get shot of zogs, taylor, butt, ameobi, viduka, smith, geremi and a few others too. Bring in some seroius quality. ashley will have to pay for it though as we have nothing to offer other than a relegation fight.

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  • Sav

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #28

    I’d second that vote for Kevin Doyle. I can’t see Bridge shifting now. West ham have some good young midfielders – Noble and especially Collison who has height on his side, too.

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  • xisco biscuits

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #29

    i reckon the players we need to keep are – given, colo, bassong, enrique, martins, beye, guthrie, barton, jonas, and a lot of the younger lads i.e. kadar, lua-lua etc. other than that i think we need a complete overhaul over the next 2-3 seasons

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  • Sav

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #30

    I reckon you’re harsh on Taylor. He might be ok alongside Bassong himself. He is still just a lad but he has a bit of aggression that Vidic, Hyppia, Terry etc. all show.

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  • keith

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #31

    must admit my support for taylor is diminishing but be a bit harsh to sell him as he is still fairly young and it would kill me iof we sold him and turned into his potential , the squad or team isnt good enough hence where we are in the league, we are 4 or 5 seasons of where we want to be, and we need everyone pulling in the same direction to get there, yes we need to invest in the youths but we also need to improve the first team, we need a mixture, a balance

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  • Sav

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #32

    Just strikes me we aren’t so flush for CBs that we can afford to flog off the England U-21 captain. He needs to play in a settled back 4 just as much as anyone else and Coloccini’s mistakes were his own yesterday. Hyppia got a free header despite Colo hanging out of him yesterday….

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  • Geordie revolution

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #33

    I think we should offload Smith, zogs, Dukes, capaca and then free our wage bill a bit.
    Realistically we will only get up to £5 mill for Smith and ZOGS £8mill zog

    Then if there is still 12 mill from milner we have another 5+8= 13 mill +12 (milner) = 25 mil

    Buy kightly £4mill, jo ledley-£5 mill
    Rio Mavuba DM £4 mill/ de jong £5 mill, Baines £5 mill, Scweinsteiger loan/ £6 mill or engelaar £5 mill

    what do u think

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  • Geordie revolution

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #34

    what do people think of Giorgio Chiellini
    Still uncertain for Juve and we may get on loan, watched him a few times and when i did seems a versatile defender, lb and cb

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  • keith

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #35

    the only thing with that gr is with jan the prices always rise, id imagine ledley will go closer to 7 million if he does go

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  • Geordie revolution

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #36

    true true
    how mch do u think ash will invest

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  • keith

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #37

    I dont know, if he says 20 million a year there has to be a good bit left of it with the milner sale on top so i would guess about 15 but would hope for 20 since its xmas and that 🙂

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  • Geordie revolution

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #38

    twenty or even 15 coud get us some quality we really need that acm who can control the game, any ideas?

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  • Sav

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #39

    King has a dodgy record of ill-health. With a small squad we nedd players who can be guaranteed to turn out.

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  • heavyhitters

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #40

    Its Taylor who unsettles the defence and Colo is obviously a nervous wreck playing next to him. Bassong / Colo work well together. Although I expect Edgar to leave I feel we’d be better off selling Taylor as he’s on big money and Edgar’s on buttons in comparison and looking at the latters performance yesterday I still believe given the chance he will be a quality Premiership player. He and Guitterez stopped anything coming down the left flank.

    Outs: Butt
    Cacapa
    Geremi
    Duff
    Ameobi
    Taylor (if we can get a good price) if not keep him as cover.

    I would keep the young guns like Edgar, Carroll and Lua Lua as they have talent and may develop and are on low wages

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