Let’s Give Mike Ashley Another Chance At Newcastle


Joe Kinnear has come out this morning and asked Newcastle United fans to give owner Mike Ashley a second chance at Newcastle.

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Joe Kinnear – urges Newcastle fans to give Ashley second chance

Joe said this morning:

“I knew he was going to announce this decision and it’s a positive move,” “He wants to look forward and what we need to do now is sit down and see where we can strengthen the squad. I still haven’t been told quite how much money there is going to be. There will be money, though, for sure.”

“The answer has always been let’s wait and see.” We’ve suggested players to Mike I would like and now it’s wait and see what price they are. Dennis Wise and the rest of the people are finding out what those prices are.”

“We need to get players in to strengthen the squad to make sure we stay in the league first and foremost. Having made that statement about wanting to come back it is the next one which is going to be the most important in terms of what players we can bring in.”

“More players are a must at the moment, I’d say at least four.”  “I’m identifying the players and Dennis Wise investigates them. I’ve named four I want and he’s been to see them and to find out whether he can get them for me.”

The Newcastle back line, which looked half way decent before the game, was just torn apart yesterday by a terrific Liverpool side, with captain Steven Gerrard again in tremendous form.

Kinnear thinks it’s now time for the hostility towards the Newcastle United owner to end, if the club is ever going to have a chance of rebuilding into a decent side.

And both Bobby Moncur and Peter Beardsley have said yesterday that the club must have some stability to build any success on.

Joe continued:

“I feel him making an announcement is a step forward. First and foremost we don’t have to keep answering questions about who is buying the club.”

“It’s been one buyer after another, but the same answer has always come back as another one pulls out. “I think he deserves a second chance and the opportunity to come back and watch the team play.”

“I think we need to draw a line under it because we need to get him back on board. Then we can sit down and discuss the future of the club and the direction we’re going in.”

We feel that the shoe is on the other foot, and it’s now up to Mike Ashley to demonstrate what he is willing to do at Newcastle.

If we can strengthen the side significantly in the January transfer window, that is the first important step to be taken.

First things first, and we’ll see just how well the Board and Dennis Wise can now work with Joe Kinnear – and we have to hope, for the sake of our club, it’s a lot better than they were able to work with former manager Kevin Keegan.
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36 comments so far

  • Gordon

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #1

    As to giving MA a chance – how long will it take him to have us regularly in the Champions League, regularly challenging for the league title and winning the FA or League cup every few years?

    Can he do that? If so then maybe he’s the right owner; if not then he isn’t.

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  • ELFER

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #2

    Oh one thing is clear, they will work a lot better together! Don’t get me wrong, KK is the legend and he will be, but the days are gone that we can spend 20 or more million pounds on one player!!

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  • haz m2

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #3

    As things stand he is the only train at the station. Anti-Ashley demonstrations will evidence a club in crisis and give a clear edge to our opposition as we battle against relegation. As yesterday proved amply, we need everything in our favour. True supporters will shelve their personal views on Ashley and either give him a chance or at least avoid weakening our hand yet further.

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  • beyethegreat

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #4

    ste gerrard arrested for assault

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  • Ashley Hole

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #5

    So f o MA

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  • Nick 69

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #6

    i dont’t want ashley here and never will, BUT, he IS here and he isnt goin anywhere for the forseable future, so what he NEEDS to do if he wants anyone to give him a chance is stop lying and give the manager some decent money to get some decent players, we need at least 4 or 5.
    by the way i think yesterday proved to all the fools on here saying we dont need players at lb, cb, cf etc to know exactly nothing about football, we need a lb, we need a cb we need a rb, we need a cm, we need a cf cos the ones we have simply arent good enough for back up

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  • Ashley Hole

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #7

    Steven Gerrard NEW BARTON!!!

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  • MarkE

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #8

    Realistic Newcastle team:

    Given
    Zapata–Bassong–Colo–Enrique

    Jonas–Veloso–Ninis–Barnetta

    Oba–Zigic

    Bench/extraplayers: Kompany–Guthrie–Smith–Butt–Pandev–Boyd–Krul–Zog–Barton–Beye–Taylor–Camacho–Xisco–Morganella–Lustenberger–Azpilicueta

    That means we sell:
    Ameobi
    Owen
    Duke
    Duff

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  • wigaz

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #9

    I must admit i think as much as people think ashley is a bell! And your within your rights to say so, i agree with Haz. Lets just get on with it if he wants to come watch the team let him do it & maybe he will put in enough cash in the kitty for us to soilder on. Kinnear had a great team at Wdon & didn’t have to spend the earth i’m sure given time & the right resources he could do the same here. If we can get in:

    Lb: Baines
    CM: Bullard
    DM: Viera or Young Sissiko (Cant spell)
    CF: Zaki or Gomis
    CB: O shea or Upson

    I’d be happy with that. O shea could play LB/CB/DM so would be good buy.

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  • GOERDIE IN NORWAY

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #10

    id have bullard for starters

    but joke kiner is only saying these thing cos he has to.

    what was he 17th choice. no one would touch us

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  • Gordon

    Dec 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #11

    What I’d like Ashley to do is come out with his plan to win us the league title.

    How many years? What sort of financial commitment? Is JK his manager to do that or will he appoint another? Is this board capable of doing that or does he plan changes?

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  • JonnyNUFC

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #12

    This transfer window is the key for me. I have a bad opinion about Ashley from the past already but i will give him 1 more go.

    If in this transfer window he INVESTS and IMPROVES our squad….we then go on to WIN more than two matches in a row against average/bad opposition he will be given some support.

    If he doesnt invest in us atall…..he can fck himself.
    From the past hes shown himself to be a rich fatman who thinks he knows more about football than those in the game around him. That he can make his own “business” decisions and ignore the outcome of those on our club, regardless of all the experienced advice he gets.

    He had better have learned.

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  • nightfall

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #13

    wigaz – not bad..except for o’shea…he’s an average player..not to mention we’d pay a lot for him (fee & wages)….not worth it..and he wouldn’t take us forward..

    i’m just surprised JK didn’t say to the press ashley will stay when he found that out…

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  • Michael12

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #14

    @Gordon this is what I have been talking about for a long time, fans like you need to recalibrate you expectations indeed you ambitions.

    Why are you owed champions league football? Why are you owed the league title? Newcastle is not on the same financial standing as the the big four. Man united, Chelsea and Liverpool have the competitive advantage in terms of finances and use it well, Arsenal have a competitive advantage by being efficient.

    Ashley is looking down another road to achieve our competitive advantage. That is through our academy. This is going to take time and even when it comes to fruition, we are not going to go straight into the champions league and win it but rather build around a sustainable competitive edge.

    Money does not buy you success Look at City, Portsmouth who only as recently as last year won the FA cup and now they are selling all those players. If the Arabs pull out of city tomorrow that will be the end of them.

    Buddy, recalibrate your expectations because if you let them get ahead of you, you will only upset yourself.

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  • Bosamuelson

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #15

    Gordon,

    I think that would be a great thing for the board/ashley to do. I think it will happen too. Either before or after the window opens.

    Johnny NUFC,

    I am a supporter of MA but I take your views on board and realise the non-supporters need something to show his intentions. But I think we have to remember that Jan is not the best for buying and other teams will want mega money for players alas 15mil for upson….pa!

    Agreed tho, more communication and a statement of intent either in the transfer market or publically stating so…hopefully both 🙂

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  • Marc

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #16

    All JFK is is Cashleys puppet – Cashleys recent craic about JFK “being better than Capello” and “get some money on us finishing top 6” highlights what a lunatic he is.

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  • Bosamuelson

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #17

    Michael12

    Good point but I think what Gordon is saying is that he/we want to know what were aiming for and when we plan to get there.

    If its Champions league in 10years then so be it, we all hope its sooner but that type of statement would help everyone take a breath and see what our long and short term goals are.

    I also think the global stretch of the top 4 are so much they generate so much more money than lower league clubs. This comes with success and of course finacial support.

    We potentially have the latter in that Mike is not skint and knows how to run a buisness. Regardless of what people say football is a buisness and becoming more so everyday.

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  • Bosamuelson

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #18

    Marc I have money on us getting into Europe :-}

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  • Shola Ameobi

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #19

    by feb/march we’ll see how good these clowns are at running a football club. I have no confidence in ashely, one slight problem and it’s ” i going sell ” and Kinnear , now i can see why he was out of work for 4 years. Do you think Ashley would employ someone who has been out of work for 4 years to run his sports empire, i think not.
    Also singing “geordie boys taking the pi$$” at the match , who were they taking the pi$$ out of? me thinks it was the fans.

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  • Yeomsta

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #20

    everyone who is posting their “realistic nufc transfers” is living in cloud cookoo land. this happened in the summer, remember gomis, turan, skjelbred, aimar and VAN DER VAART for christ sake!?! these were the players we were meant to be going for…i havent seen them in a black and white shirt, have you? brace yourself for a huge disapointment. i must admit, in the summer i was one of the people who believed we were going to get some of these awesome players, i was so excited. since then i’ve plummeted back down to earth with almighty crash and i have no intention of climbing back up into the realm of belief and hope.

    Ashley wont fund us for top quality players, end of story.

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  • Marc

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #21

    Bosamuelson – you must have too much money then!!!

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  • Gordon

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #22

    Hi Michael12,

    “@Gordon this is what I have been talking about for a long time, fans like you need to recalibrate you expectations indeed you ambitions.”

    Why?

    “Why are you owed champions league football? Why are you owed the league title? ”

    I agree, we’re not ‘owed’ anything – we have to go and work for it if we want it.

    “Newcastle is not on the same financial standing as the the big four. Man united, Chelsea and Liverpool have the competitive advantage in terms of finances and use it well, Arsenal have a competitive advantage by being efficient.”

    I agree, but I want us to be on the same (or better) financial standing as those teams. I want us to compete at the very top level.

    Why not?

    “Ashley is looking down another road to achieve our competitive advantage. That is through our academy. This is going to take time and even when it comes to fruition, we are not going to go straight into the champions league and win it but rather build around a sustainable competitive edge.”

    That’s fine but I seem to remember MA saying that we’ll never compete at the highest level and that’s just not good enough for me.

    “Money does not buy you success”

    Agreed, it takes more than money but virtually all of the worlds’ top clubs also happen to be quite rich, so money is a necessity. It needs to be there.

    “Buddy, recalibrate your expectations because if you let them get ahead of you, you will only upset yourself.”

    Well I’ve been recalibrating them for 45 years so I’m used to doing that.

    But people are asking if MA is the man to lead us and my answer is that he’s that man only if he seriously intends to make us a club that regularly competes for the league title.

    If not I’d rather we had an owner who was serious about doing that.

    We were quite rich (relatively) during the 1st KK era and we came quite close to winning the league but then incompetent ownership and a succession of poor managers have reduced us to a mid-table side.

    What I want to see for NUFC is a good owner that has the necessary finances to make us the number 1 team in the country, and I’d like to see us with a manager who is capable of seeing that through.

    I am not one of these ‘blinkered fans’ the media goes on about. We are lower mid-table team at the moment in my opinion and I don’t expect us to beat the likes of Man U, L’pool and Chelsea.

    But we’re at an epoch now. We may have recently come close to having a new owner.

    NUFC certainly isn’t the ‘biggest’ team but I believe that with the right owner and manager it could become one (as could a lot of teams for that matter).

    Is there any harm in wanting that for ones club?

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  • Bosamuelson

    Dec 29, 2008 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #23

    Well said Gordon

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  • BILLY - B

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #24

    If he sacks Dennis Wise the fanswill see that as a positive

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  • bowburnmag

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #25

    Effing bravo Gordon. To my mind there are too many people on here giving business reasons why you should no longer hope or wish for the best of times for your club. Surely that’s why we follow our beloved club? Not to pat ourselves on the back for being financially astute and clever business people? We all know fine well about the risks of liquidation etc but we’re not suggesting putting ourselves at risk of that for the benefit of a bit of silverware. Nobody “expects” anything but surely we should all still hope?

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  • Michael12

    Dec 29, 2008 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #26

    @Gordon: Well said, I concede.

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  • bowburnmag

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #27

    Michael12 – very noble of you. I’ve criticised some of your stuff before and in truth, you are one of the people I was referring to re, promoting business reasons. I don’t knock your logic or your stance but question the essence of it. This suggests you’re capable of seeing what some of us are saying where we either distrust or disbelieve MA’s motives or both. Mind you, I concede it takes someone like Gordon to express it properly.

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  • ObaMartins

    Dec 29, 2008 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #28

    Give Ashley another Chance ? its like saying let the ferret sleep in the rabbit hutch tonight…He is STAYING as he has NOOOOOO Option, get it into your heads.

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  • Sav

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #29

    Glad to see you have changed your tune a bit, Ed. There’s only one reason the sale of NUFC has been withdrawn and we all know what that is.

    I can’t see the point in Ashley’s statement of intent to stay. The timing, on Bobby Robson day, was thoughtless. If it was intended to convince would-be transfer targets that this is a stable club, it won’t.

    That is why all these appeals ‘let’s welcome him back’ and ‘let’s not bear a grudge and help the club’ don’t do anything for me.

    We need a change of heart to be demonstrated, not spun. Get Mort back, sack Llambias. Let’s have a clear statement that Wise is under the manager’s authority on transfers. Lets see some of the good coaches we lost being replaced. And lets see some financial commitment for transfers now and then built on in the summer.

    Talk is cheap and trust needs to be earned.

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  • Rich Y

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #30

    if he brings in 3-4 players who turn out to be decent then OK.

    That will prove his desire to turn the clubs fortunes around.

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  • Phil,Gosforth

    Dec 29, 2008 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #31

    Money doesn’t buy you success,of course but it IS a pre-requisite for success.Every team that is successful spends money.
    If it wasn’t that way Man Utd would be full of players on £1k a week.
    What you need to realise that football is not like any other business.You can’t cut corners and do stuff on the cheap.If you want money out of football,you have to win.You want to win,you need good players.Players that cost money.Yes,invest in youth but 1st team and premiership status is main priority.No team wants to spend sh*tloads of cash but they have to.The owners realise this.Jabba the Hutt however,does not.The chances of him forking out some serious cash this window are next to none.£12m net spend in 2 years-ish is ridiculous from a “billionaire”.The way he went about selling the club showed what a goon this bloke is,to be brutally frank.

    If you cant afford the petrol Mike, don’t buy the car.

    Two years down the line with Mike Ashley and I have not seen/cannot see ANY good times with this man in charge.

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  • Whumpie

    Dec 29, 2008 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #32

    Let’s not base too much on January’s buys. Let’s face it, nobody gets good value or good players in January. BUT we may get some idea of how this management team intend to operate.

    As for this discussion over expectations – Gordon and co – I think we all agree with what we want, but it’s WHEN we expect it that differs. The top 4 are there because of a decade of consistent and sensible management. We’re starting from scratch, so if we hit the Champions League before 2012 we’ll be doing well.

    What we have no right to do, but somehow seem to do constantly, is go off on one every time we get a poor result. Time to get realistic:

    1. We have a ridiculously thin squad, as shown by yesterday’s mauling.
    2. We have a good academy set-up, which should produce results in about 5 years.
    3. We’re not going to fix any of this in the January Sales. Let’s get used to the fact that this season is just about survival.

    As for Ashley taking it off the market, I welcome it – rather have stability and a British owner than sell to the nearest lot of dodgy foreigners and hope.

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  • TROJAN 69

    Dec 29, 2008 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #33

    dodgy foreigners ?what about the dodgy english gadgie running the show,only kidding.
    the article in tonights chronicle is a bold statement to make,he now has to back this up.
    mike ashley is a gambler,this will be his biggest gamble yet.

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  • nightfall

    Dec 29, 2008 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #34

    the problem is JK…he doesn’t give chances ti our youngsters…xisco, lualua, kadar should all play… especailly now..with all injuries… robson did that, so did roeder… but no…JK rather plays oldtimers, who lost their strenght, pace…and passion…

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  • Gordon

    Dec 29, 2008 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #35

    Whumpie,

    “As for this discussion over expectations – Gordon and co – I think we all agree with what we want, but it’s WHEN we expect it that differs. The top 4 are there because of a decade of consistent and sensible management. We’re starting from scratch, so if we hit the Champions League before 2012 we’ll be doing well.”

    I quite agree – we will indeed need to build over a number of seasons.

    What I want though is an owner who’s prepared to commit to taking us all the way with that; prepared to appoint the necessary boardroom staff, the necessary manager and invest the necessary (and not insignificant) finances to do it.

    The question I’m currently asking is: Is Mike Ashley that man? I must admit I have my doubts.

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  • nightfall

    Dec 29, 2008 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #36

    the thing with oldtimers is if theys are not in a club which fights for trophies…they play only for the money (most of them anyway)…

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