“Mr Reliable” Coloccini Way Below Par On Sunday – Kinnear


Newcastle manager Joe Kinnear has today challenged Argentine International Fabricio Coloccini to show that his very poor performance against Liverpool on Sunday was a one off.

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Fabricio Coloccini – off day against Liverpool

Coloccini is usually a big game player, but he was way below par on Sunday and just couldn’t handle the heading ability of Liverpool’s Sami Hyypia.

Newcastle United’s defense were torn apart time and time again by the Premier League leaders on Sunday, and the Newcastle defense were surprisingly weak at set pieces, of all things.

Coloccini struggled to contain Liverpool’s 6’4″ Sami Hyypia, who seemed to be able to win headers at will, and scored one after 36 minutes, and could have had more on Sunday, but for the brilliant Given.

Steven Taylor, David Edgar and a hardly fit  Jose Enrique, who at least gave it a go in the first half, were hardly good enough in a disappointing defensive performance, for what looked like a decent back four before the game.

Joe Kinnear has blamed the enforced changes from the Wigan Athletic game, with both Habib Beye and Sebastien Bassong missing, but he will be disappointed by the perfomance of his defense, as they just weren’t good enough – by a long way.

Kinnear told the Shields Gazette today:

“Fabricio was below par because we had two of the normal back four missing,”

“That’s why it’s so important to have a settled back four. We must improve. We’ll learn from this, but we do need some reinforcements.”

“Normally he’s Mr Reliable. He was below par, but that’s also probably to do with the quality of the team we were playing against.”

“However, the last thing I would have expected was for them to beat us in the manner they did.”

Kinnear will have 22 year-old Sebastien Bassong back for Saturday’s third-round FA Cup tie against Hull City at the KC Stadium, and his presense will bring a calming stability at the back, which shows just how well the youngster has been playing this season – a fantastic buy for the club last summer.

The 22-year-old has now served his one-game suspension against Liverpool after his dismissal at the JJB Stadium for pulling down Wigan’s very experienced  England striker Emile Heskey – an experience the youngster has vowed to learn from.

It will be good to have him back in the back- line on Saturday.

Even though Coloccini is an Argentine International we feel that both he and Bassong are still imporving, and their partnership can become a keystone in Newcastle’s defense. Certainly they seem to complement each other, but we missed Bassong’s heading ability on Sunday.



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62 comments so far

  • Partizan

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #1

    He needs to gain 15 pounds at least.

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  • scottish mag

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #2

    1 poor game doesnt make him a bad player, every1 has bad games.

    u no how gerrard got charged today well do u guys think he will get as much stick as joey barton, i dont WHY??? cos he is an england international and prem star, who cares if he is he should get a jail sentence also

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  • JonnyNUFC

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #3

    Mr reliable ??

    Apparently only with bassong. With taylor he becomes incredibly slow and lacks the ability to head the ball.

    Watching hypia take the piss out of both of them was embarassing.

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  • StevieA

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #4

    “Fabricio was below par because we had two of the normal back four missing,”

    “That’s why it’s so important to have a settled back four. We must improve. We’ll learn from this, but we do need some reinforcements.”

    In other words we can’t defend without Bassong and Beye in the team. That shows that Taylor needs to be sold if that’s the case, we need someone who can come in and not upset the balance of the strong defence we have built.

    We need 2 full backs who can be as potentially as good as Beye at right back and better than Enrique at left back. It’s obvious we need a centre back better than Taylor now too.

    I hate to say it but I just don’t think Taylor has developed as a player. He has all the tools but I think he believes he is better than he is. That’s dangerous for a player who is only 22. I think a loan spell could be good for him, what do you think?

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  • beyethegreat

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #5

    we are lucky shay was outstandidng otherwise it could have been 10

    shay has to be the best in the prem

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  • Legs

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Put him along side a shit defence and that’s what’ll happen.

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  • StevieA

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #7

    Scottish Mag – It depends on what the police charge him with but from the way he is talking he could be going to jail for a few months. It’s his first real offense that I know of so they might go easy on him. Usually though in cases like this it’s a few months in jail but we will see.

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  • StevieA

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #8

    Or he will at least get a suspended sentence… depends how serious the injuries are though to the ‘victim’.

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  • ObaFan2

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #9

    I’d look at his centre back partner 1st before laying all the blame on Colo.

    Just coincidence that we have been good at the back then all of a sudden we let 5 in, granted against a good L’pool team but still Chelsea are a top team and we coped well with them.

    I have always believed that the back four (or 5 with the keeper) need to work as a unit and have a good understanding, something they lacked on Sunday.

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  • North Atlantic Magpie

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #10

    Yeah…if Taylor is in defence, everyone in defence is below par.

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  • ELFER

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #11

    People constantly blame our back four to concede too many goals.

    How can you do better when on the left side zoggy covers zero defensively. Ok, on the right side Jonas works his socks off, but most of the goals we concede do not come from his field side. Butt? What do I have to say…He isn’t a strong holding midfielder who works together with the center backs.

    That are the real reasons why we concede so many goals! Defending is a team duty and not only the duty of the defenders!

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  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:37 PM

    Comment #12

    Whilst i don’t believe Taylor was the main cause of our poor defence on Sunday, i do feel he was a key factor in it.

    There was an article about Steven Taylor yesterday. It summised his progress over the last 3 years fairly well. Have a read.

    http://www.newcastle.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=136964

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  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #13

    Elfer

    Agreed

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  • beyethegreat

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #14

    elfer

    i agree its not just covering the defence its not going forward
    when you go forward you take a lot of pressure of the back 4

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  • ELFER

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #15

    So again, we have strong Bassong alongside experienced coloccini who only will get better. I would luv it, truly luv it to have someone like Taiwo or Sakho on the left side and before them Sissoko!

    Defence is a unit, yes, but the holding midfielder must fit in that as well!

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  • StevieA

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #16

    Elfer – I agree too! Good points.

    We need better full backs to create competition for places. A centre back in the mould of Bassong or Distin even and a strong defensive midfielder such as Sissoko or Poulsen.

    We need to build from the back in January in my opinion. Then in the summer look for a creative midfielder and striker..

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #17

    Colo is useless when he is up against pace. Thats why he needs bassong alongside him. He turns like a bathtub when a player is running off of him.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #18

    I really don’t understand it. Enrique has looked good under our settled back four yet people still want him replaced. He is a good lef tback and just needs competition. I can see Enrique is going to end up in the same category as Ameobi. He can play consistently well for 4 or 5 games, but everytime he makes one mistake it will be back to square one with fans turning on him. Only at NUFC does this really happen.

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  • ELFER

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #19

    The key is to have naturally position born players! We need real fullbacks (who can defend on first duty).

    YOu will hate me for this, but I still don’t really know what Zoggy really is??

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  • Stardust

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #20

    StevieA – Ive been saying for a long time taylor should go to the Championship – he is doing himself no favours trying to learn his trade in the Prem.

    To be honest though, I truly believe you cant learn positional sense, you either have it or you dont. I think Taylor knows he hasnt got it and thats where all the unstability comes from – he plays his game for him, his back line know it and thereon the chaos starts.

    I’d like to see him prove me wrong but fundamentally I think he is not the future at all.

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  • Will Iam

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #21
  • ELFER

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #22

    Stop that negativity against Colo. He had a poor game, but he’s still class! Formed a decent partnership with young Bassong. Taylor is also ok als CB backup – but it’s not good to play any player out of position as we can see!

    If you ask me, I would go out for:

    LB: Taiwo, Baines or Warnock
    CB: Sakho to replace useless Caçapa
    HM: Sissoko, Appiah or a fighting championship midfielder!
    RB: Difficult, but Beye alone just isn’t enough!

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  • Stardust

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #23

    Cheers for the link Spyro – its just how I see him too.

    We just have to think how many previously good CBs have came to newcastle and leave with their reputation in tatters after playing with him.

    The Stoke and Liverpool games are at last highlighting what has been said by many for a long time – the stats with him in the team and out of it find Taylor “Guilty as Charged”

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  • ELFER

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #24

    To get 3 players in the january window is very difficult and we must consider ourselfes happy if we could them!

    For me I would consider to buy Sakho, becouse he would cover left fullback as well as the ceter back Backup position! Then go for the holding midfielder, which is key to our success!

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  • beyethegreat

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #25

    spyro

    i agree enrique is young so he will show inconsistency

    and though he was poor against liverpool at times he showed a bit of skill and he wasnt fully fit

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  • StevieA

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #26

    Stardust – You might be right. Or perhaps a move to Portsmouth in exchange for Distin? Taylor has always said he learned a lot from Adams so it would be a good move for him.

    Even players like Peter Ramage had a good technical and positional sense, he just didn’t have the legs that’s all Ramages problem was. I remember seeing Ramage and Taylor together a few times and they impressed me at the time. I just think Colo needs a certain type of defender beside him, someone he can rely on and someone who has quick reflexes and good tactical knowledge such as Bassong.

    Someone like Distin could also play well with Colo I think because he is similar to Bassong.

    Taylor needs to learn that he doesn’t know everything, he still has a lot to learn. He does noone any good by trying to be an Alan Shearer type, I don’t remember Alan Shearer telling other strikers what to do when he was 22. 27 or 28 maybe but not before. In other words he has a long way to go to be as good as the likes of Terry and that’s the target he should be aiming for.

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  • ELFER

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #27

    The thing that I did not understand when BS was at the helm is that he bought so many “multiple positioned” players and forgot to buy real “natural born positioned” players…strange, but we have to pay now for that!

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  • dumfriesgeordie

    Dec 30, 2008 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #28

    colo and bassong are the future centre pairing, beye is class but we weak on the left.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #29

    Elfer

    To be fair, i think that was because BS wasn’t given as much in transfer money as he thought he would. Under FFS he would have been given a fair bit more…Of course it would have been money we wouldn’t of had though.

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  • fostino

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #30

    within the next season i would love to see the following players shipped out replaced by players who are better, more energetic and show the toon hunger and flair:

    geremi
    smith
    cacapa
    duff
    butt
    viduka (latest injury is final straw)

    (p.s i imagine all these players are on comfy expensive wages too)

    gonzalez & xisco the d-day boys cant really be judged yet and edgar and carroll should be loaned out for their development

    i also think it wouldnt be the end of the world if owen left either, even tho i would like him to stay.

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  • StevieA

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #31

    dumfriesgeordie – Seen as you are up in Scotland how good would Berra and Driver be?

    Would they be worth having a look at do you think?

    Driver is a pacey and skillful left winger, Newcastle born I think too! Another one we missed out on..

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  • Whumpie

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #32

    I think it just shows that we have a massive gulf between our ideal starting 11 and the backups we have to play when any of them are injured.

    It is odd how Colo is so much better when paired with Bassong, but JFK is right – replace half the back four and it’ll throw anyone. Especially when you have that brick wall Hypia and Stevie ‘Are you Looking at my Pint’ Gerrard coming at you…

    I think Taylor gets some unfair stick, but he has failed to improve recently. ELFER is right about the midfield too – you can’t have an organised back 4 if the ball never leaves the 1st quarter of the field.

    BUT we have to be realistic and not expect wonders in the January window – one or two permies and some loaners at best. Then we have to just struggle through to summer, when better deals are usually available.

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  • ELFER

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #33

    spyro, you’re right yes, have to be more fair to him.

    Well I for one would be already pleased if we manage to get Sakho (LB and Backup CB) and Sissoko (midfield).

    If we then get on top a right fullback (maybe on loan) and some other engines it would be superb!

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  • GEORDIE69

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #34

    Coloccini only looks good alongside a centre half with pace like Bassong. I do rate him but not alongside Taylor.

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  • Macas

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #35

    Coloccini has no pace and isn’t too good in the air, and I don’t think Taylor is responsible for this…

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  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #36

    Coloccini is in his first season in the PL. He will improve and so will Bassong. We just need to keep both at the club and ensure stability at the back.

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  • tyneside tommo

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #37

    Good bit of man managing by JFK – slagging off one of your best players in public. Mr Reliable wasn’t the only one who was below par aka outplayed by a more tactically ept team.
    Still, we all know how Joe likes to shoot from the mouth!

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  • Eric

    Dec 30, 2008 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #38

    hello lads, just my little reflection on the liverpool game

    i would just like to give my piece against all of those who are slating steven taylor.

    im not biased for him because he’s a geordie but i would like to say this:

    the game against liverpool was his first start in a while

    he made a couple good blocks and tackles

    most of those goals came because our midfield as well as nzogbia and colocinni did not try and make a tackle on gerrard and co

    blimey he’s 23! hes not a cacapa and well past it, certainly not his wages either

    nzogbia was horrible, first half horrible offensively, both halves horrible defensively.

    HOWEVER: our team just did not get it clicking, and i was very dissapointed with the amount of possesion we had in the first half, the 2nd half was much much better.

    very delighted to see a geremi free kick that threatened for once and even hit the crossbar!

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  • Dumfriesgeordie

    Dec 30, 2008 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #39

    Not sure on driver although berra a canny player although don’t follow the sol it’s poor.

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  • StevieA

    Dec 30, 2008 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #40

    Cheers for that Dumfries ^^^

    I have heard good things about Andy Driver but apparently Berra is ready to play at a higher level now. Even his own captain is saying that!

    The Scottish league is a bit poor but does produce some good quality players to be fair.

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