Kightly, Ledley And Doyle Are Initial Newcastle Targets

Joe Kinnear will have his all important meeting today with Kevin Llambias, as they plot their January transfer strategy, which is turning out to be a vital part of the Newcastle rebuilding under Joe Kinnear.


22 year old Michael Kightly is a Newcastle target

Mike Ashley is now under some searching scrutiny from Newcastle fans, who are still to be convinced that Ashley’s ambitions for the club are anywhere near their own.

Joe Kinnear however, seems upbeat that sufficient funds will be provided in Jnauary, that will allow him to bring in both the number and quality of players Newcastle desperately need.

The Newcastle Journal is reporting this morning that Joe will go after some young stars in the Championship including Wolves’ England Under-21 international 22 year-old Michael Kightly and Newcastle are also said to be considering bids for Reading’s 25 year-old striker Kevin Doyle and Cardiff’s Wales 21 year-old midfielder Joe Ledley, who has already played 178 times for Cardiff and 24 times for Wales.

Presumably the fourth player Newcastle have bid for is center-half Matthew Upson of West Ham.

Another option for Kinnear is to bring in some class players to the club on loan, but Kinnear may have to have a rethink on exactly which players to bring in, after he has had so many injuries to some of his key players now.

Kinnear said this morning:

“I’m talking to the chairman this morning about it and I should know more by the end of today,”

“January is not an easy time to buy anyone and clubs are not desperate to sell either but we have made enquiries about players already.”

” I won’t talk about other teams’ players but we’ve got ten players out – most of them won’t be back until the end of January – so we need extra bodies.”

“If we can’t bring in players permanently then we’ll get the class loan players in until the end of the season.”

“I’m sure that I will know more by the end of the day.”

It seems that Joe is inferring he’ll give some update to the press after his meeting today with Llambias, and that would be good.

We certainly like the look of Kightly and Ledley, but not sure if Kevin Doyle would improve our squad too much, given all the up and coming strikers we have at the club right now. But we certainly need to check on other strikers at least for the summer, when Michael Owen is likely to move on.

But it’s also going to be hard to get clubs like Wolves, Reading and Cardiff, who are all in the top four of the Championship currently, to part with any of their players in January, and some of these targets will probably not be available until the summer.

But somehow we have to get some good players to the club before February, that’s for sure.

What do you think?

Comments very welcome.

88 comments so far

  • Stuart

    Dec 30, 2008 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #1

    Yet again Kinnear is contridicting himself.

    Thought he only wanted players who could come straight into the 1st team?

    We won’t have more than a couple of mil available. Does anyone know why? Everton, Villa, Portsmouth, Bolton, Hull, WBA, Boro and Sunderland all have less turnover than us and way less crowds but have all spent at least 3 times more than us since Ashley has been here!

    What’s changed? NOTHING!

  • Simon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #2

    Would rather give a chance to the youngans than doyle to be fair. Im sure there are others with PL experience we can get insteads? That or a few of the foreigners TT’s been on about!

    I think shola has got to go.

    What bout the rumour of given – bale swap? I think I would take that myself.

  • graeme

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #3

    What happened to the £12 million from Villa? Surely that should be handed to Joe plus whats going to be made available by MA for this window.

    He should be looking at a £20 million kitty to try and strengthen the side and if he cant make big improvements with that amount, he should be replaced in the summer, although thats probably going to happen anyway!!!

  • Stuart

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #4

    Ashley hasn’t put his hand in his pocket once to buy new players since he’s been here! He wouldn’t even spend the Milner money in August.

    He won’t spend a penny! He’s biding time until the summer and then he will try and sell again.

    I can’t believe a word he or Kinnear say. It’s so frustrating!

  • Cyprus-Toon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #5

    Wot are you lot talking about, we have 3 strikers out injured, so if we can get Doyle, who btw is top goal scorer in the CCC then I think that would be a good scoop, especially as we’ll ditch Viduka & Xisco in the summer, Owen will leave & Ameobi isn’t really a 1st choice striker if he decides to renew his contract, so we need a good one & Doyle fits that imo!!

    Personally I think we need 2 xCB, 1 LB, 1 RB, 2 x CM & 2 Forwards now!!!

  • Daniel

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #6

    Stuart – KK didn’t have time to spend the money in summer! They tried to sign that winger from Bayern who turned us down. He also went for a big money move for Modric.

    Judge at the end of the window, and stop being so damn negative.

  • MistaKen

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #7

    I’m an Arsenal fan. We were once linked with Joe Ledley when we bought his team mate Aron Ramsey. We should have bough Ledley too as he will develop into world class in the right team.

  • Xisco Stu

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #8

    Interesting that there are no LB’s mentioned.

  • Stuart

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #9

    Daniel ya a nieve idiot!

    If we believe what were told we offered more money for Modric than Spurs. He cost them 16m! Where’s that money gone? We offered more money for Woodgate, he cost 9m! Where’s that money gone? That’s 25m we allegedly had to spend. Any idea why we ended up only spending £3m net? Get real! The reason Modric and Woodgate both rejected us was because we offered far less than Spurs, whatever Ashley says.

    He’s better at spin that Alistair Campbell and Pter Mandleson put together!

  • Matt

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #10

    Cyprus Toon why on earth do we need 2 more CB? We’ve got Colo and Bassong who are making a firm partnership and improving every game. Taylor has been out a while and admittedly was shocking in the last match but for once we don’t need CB at all at the moment.

    LB, RB, CM and a big CF.

    In a dream world I’d get Roque Santa Cruz but I doubt that will happen.

  • Daniel

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #11

    I’m a naive idiot obviously, but you’re the one that believes quality international players would want to move to us. Reality check – THEY WOULDN’T!

    We need to look at cheaper players, no more Boumsongs, but also no more Emres/Owens. Actually build a decent team.

  • Symons

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #12

    Ledly plays left back for cardiff most times when ive seen them play!! Doyle is a good striker but nothing special!! Knightly ho prospect!! ALL CHAMIONSHIP PLAYERS THOUGH!! We need about 6 players in that can get ionto most prem teams! or we are in Big Trouble! Also cant sell anyone unless its shla and reserve people

  • Archie Brand

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #13


    Just a thought, but maybe it was something to do with Ashley paying off 100+ million of debt that he inherited, putting the club in the black and saving millions of pounds in interest payments.
    Have any of the 8 teams you mentioned spent 100 mill in the last 18 months? How many of them have NO debt?
    It never ceases to amaze me that fans who have no concept of what is involved in running a multimillion pound company seem to somehow think they are experts

  • jimmy

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #14

    Sounds good to me vicar! off topic, Gerrard charged with assault! -wonder if the FA go to town on him with bans etc like they did with Joey Bartons off field antics-or if hes let off like Rooney and Ronaldo? watch this space-i think we all know the answer-however, if they do ban him it will affect Liverpools title challenge for sure-and we cant have that can we! cos there a top four club and the FA cant be punishing them!


    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #15

    STUART, you stated some clubs who spent big and now look where they are! So to spend big money doesn’t change anything.

    We need players with fighting spirit right now but without overpay them. So the championship could be a solution indeed. I would also rather see Sissoko, Inler and Sakho at the club, but they would be too expensive I guess.

  • Stuart

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #16

    Archie Brand –

    Ashley paying off the debt was his own fault! He obviously has little concept of it as he didn’t do due dilligence! The figures being banded about range from 50m to 100m that he paid off. He didn’t do DD because he was rushing to get the deal done as other people were interested! They probably were prepared to invest in the team.

    Seen as your intent on sticking up for Ashley. Any idea where this £20m per season has gone? We haven’t seen 1 penny of it spent so far! Don’t say paying the debt of as again this was his own stupid fault. He wouldn’t have bought us if he had done DD.


    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #17

    Stuart, sorry, but you do not have a clue!! The dept was raised quitly by shephard (I believe we still pay real madrid for owen and the list goes on there…). Please think and inform yourself, before you speak!

  • TROJAN 69

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #18

    ashley has admitted this morning albeit the daily mirror,that the club will take young players then sell them on for profit.
    so if this is the case how do newcastle build a good team?
    off topic will fans from other clubs now be asking liverpool to sack gerrard and kick him out of football?i think not watch the double standard emerge because it is gerrard and not barton.

  • keith

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #19

    Doyle is top class, he would work his socks off for us, he is quick a neat touch can score and is good in the hair

  • TROJAN 69

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #20

    i dont think any of the players mentioned will improve newcastle to be honest.

  • Stuart

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #21

    Elfer – You got any idea how transfers are paid? Only Chelsea have paid fees upfront! All transfers are paid in installments dependin on success ect… On that asis we probaly paid off Owens transfer fee last year and probably paid nearer 12m for him as we’ve had no success.

    What makes me laugh is that people believe everything Ashley says. He said we owned millions in transfer fees! It turned out that we are owed more money that we owe out! He’s a spin doctor who spins things in his favour.

    Look at the facts – Yes he’s cleared the debt (his fault didn’t do due dillegence)

    He hasn’t invested the 20m a season he promised in his goodbye letter that wasn’t (funny how he only made us aware of this when he knew he wouldn’t have to spend that 20m because he thought he was goin!)

    Finally he has managed to bring a great club to it’s bloddy knees with his chronic mis-management!

    Need I go on???

  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #22


    no don’t go on please, just stop whinging like a woman, cheers.


    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #23

    TROJAN 69 Lets be realistic here Gerrard up until now has been the perfect role model as for Barton he has had loads and of chances! You can not compare the two. I love Barton to bits but Gerrard is in a league of his own both on and off the pitch.

  • Stuart

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #24

    Thanks Spyro, I’me obviously the only person here who’s bothered were owned by a complete con man!

  • TROJAN 69

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #25

    stuart,agree with everthing you have said.
    when john hall had newcastle we were vibrant going places,mike ashley has cheapened us to one of his dodgy sweat shops.
    we have now become a pariah of the football world and a national joke.
    the longer this horrible cowboy and his cohorts stay the worse it will get,stand on me as arthur daley would say.

  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #26


    Doesn’t really matter mate, the fact of the matter is, Gerrard is a much more high profile player and in general his actions come under much more scrutiny than Barton. If this is the case, surely the F.A should set an example and punish Gerrard in order to send out a positive message.

  • TROJAN 69

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #27

    geordie you have just proved the point,IT IS BECAUSE HE IS STEVEN GERRARD.

  • keith

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #28

    John hall? He was a crook who nearly ruined this club, now im not saying ashley is perfect or anything like that but he is a damn sight better than the halls and shepards

  • euanpolo

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #29

    I don’t know why we’re looking at the Championship for talent, there are some good players there but the good English youngsters are far too expensive for their quality. If we can get some good players from abroad on the cheap like Gutierrez and Bassong then we’ll be fine.

  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #30


    My point is, regardless of what you say on here, MA is the owner and there is very little people on here can do to change that. Let’s just wait and see where we are at the end of the season and how we act in the summer. Too many people on here are expecting major moves in January, but no decent manager or owner ever goes wild in this window.

  • simon376

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #31

    Stuart, I’m with you. Ashley has proved himself to be a person who has ruiend a once great club and never spoken a word of truth all the way through.

    This time last year, I was still in favour of Ashley, but watching the way he has handled himself over the last 6 months, he has proved to be a waste of space. He may be in charge of the club, but the club belongs to the fans. I’m not one who thinks fans should own/bye out and run the club, but we should have someone in chatge who will do their best to run the club in a way that will keep the fans happy and at the same time not put it in too much debt. Balance is needed, but what we have now is just all in Ashleys favour, not ours.

  • Stuart

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #32

    I agree with u on the fact that nobody goes wild in Jan. However the only time our owner has ever went wild was in New York nightclub! But he does still have £40m in his back pocket what he hasn’t spent as promised.

    We’ll see. It’s once bitten and twice shy I suppose

  • TROJAN 69

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #33

    mike ashley is an idiot if you ask me,wont suprise me if he starts selling off our better players again.
    i can see the whole thing igniting again shortly.

  • Dom

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #34

    Good news! Kightly and Ledley especially

  • toon solja in london

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #35

    what happened to those italians JFK was talking about?

  • Whumpie

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #36

    I’m no big fan of Ashley’s decision-making, but we have to be realistic here.

    Hall and Shepherd both ran the club in unsustainable ways, and we were headed down the tubes. Yes, Ashley’s admitted he didn’t do enough due diligence, but we are now one of the only profitable football clubs in the country. We also have a great youth scheme, which was lacking before.

    None of this will win us any silverware in the next 3 years, but it is the only way – short of being bought by a foreign crook with blood money (Chelski) who then bogs off and leaves us bankrupt when he gets bored – to get into the top 4.

    If we can get any permanent signings in January then it’ll be a bonus because it’s usually impossible. If we can get 2 or 3 gooduns on loan, that’ll get us to summer when the real deals are possible.

    Be realistic lads, and just be glad we’ve got an English owner who didn’t make his money by killing people.

  • jimmy

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #37

    TROJAN 69 i agree, read my post above yours-has nowt to do with Barton having done it before-assault is assault! now lets see what the FA do ! sweet FA ?

  • The holey grail

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #38

    stuart . . . the hall family put themselves up as a guarantee for the stadium and as ashley bought them out (or if it wasnt him any1 else who bought them out would have to do) he had to pay the 70mil UPFRONT, and also 30mil reducing our crippling debt, so you people who said we were going place yes we were and it was in trouble spending stupid money on stuped players so have Everton, Villa, Portsmouth, Bolton, Hull, WBA, Boro and Sunderland spent money on the likes of boumsong 8mil, luque 8mil, viana 6mil, owen 15mil, collocini 10mil, smith 5mil. that is alot of money that stuart said we havent spent and many more players could be added and what have we got to show for it . . . .nothing. one of your examples everton have a 60k a week wage cap and 12mil for fellani smashed their transfer record and where are they in the league stuart. . . . that proves that you can run a club sensibly and still do well.

    am just astounded that ashley can put 100mill in to our club to save it really and you complain, ashley is fighting a loosing battle with people like you, even if he put 40mil in january it doesnt guarantee sucess but you would still complain that is wasnt enough or that its kaneers fault for buying wrong players which is obviously ashleys fault for appointing him.

  • bill

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #39

    I’m with you on this Stuart.

    Ashley has paid off the mortgage on SJP because it was a legal requirement, no more.

    He wants us to be a feeder club. All I can say to that is F*** off; we are big enough to do the feeding off others, thank you very much.

    Back to the mortgage on SJP, why didn’t he take out another mortgage like anyone else would do if he was buying property. I have never quite understood that one. Don’t come back with credit crunch rubbish, because he apparently paid Northern Rock before all of that came about.

    I wouldn’t trust this guy with anything. I think that he is a conman, a crook and a liar.

    JFK said he wants players to slot right into the team now, so it is pointless buying players that don’t already play in the Prem.

    Should Ashley go out in this transfer window and spend about £50 million, then I might reconsider what I have just written. However, the probability is that we will make a profit in January.

    I think that something got lost in translation over the £20 million a season. I think that this amount was coming out of the club no going into it.

  • xisco biscuits

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #40

    doyle, ledley and kightly – yes please, but lets not stop there, we need those 3 plus 2/3 more in january, even loan deals! adriano, elano, bendtner all get-able on loan so lets make something happen!!

    if arsenal want given we’ll take £5m + either song, denilson, diaby or rosicky, and if spurs want him we’ll take £5m + bale or lennon. he’s the best keeper in the prem and £8m is a joke


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