Newcastle May Be After Ben Haim Once Again


It appears that Newcastle may be after Tal Ben Haim, now of Manchester City, for a second time, after we failed to secure his services 18 months ago, just after Sam Allardyce arrived at the club.

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Tal Ben Haim – interesting Newcastle again

It is also clear that there may be some good Manchester City players available in January if the new owners start to pay ridiculous prices for players again in the January transfer window.  Although if manager Mark Hughes has anything to do with it, he will no doubt try to add some common sense to their transfer strategy.

Their £50M spent on Jo and Robinho was hardly money well spent in August, and these were two trophy players and Mark Hughes is having a difficult time trying to get all his individuals to play together as a team. They are just one place above Newcastle in the league on goal difference, after scoring 2 goals in the last two minutes at Blackburn on Sunday to secure a rather lucky draw.

Ben Haim is a decent defender, and of course he can play anywhere across the back four, so he would be a great acquisition for us, especially since he played a bunch of times for Bolton Wanderers, and has played 44 times for Israel.

While West Ham center-half Matthew Upson is also on Kinnear’s wanted list, West Ham are asking silly money for Matthew, and we’d be stupid to pay over the top for Upson, who is a decent center-back, but that’s all.

The Israel international is expected to be allowed to move when the Blackburn owners, the Abu Dhabi United Group, funds some new players at the City of Manchester Stadium next month, and Newcastle are all ready to offer a cut-price move to St James’ Park for Ben Haim.

Haim cost about £5M when he joined Manchester City from Chelsea in July, after spending just one season with the London side, when Ben Haim signed for them in preference to Newcastle United in the summer of 2007. We think £3M would be a decent deal for Newcastle.

Ben Haim is a definite possibility, since he should be available, and he will add some depth and experience to Newcastle’s defense, and certainly increase the competition for places in the back four.

But don’t be surprised if Sam Allardyce, now at Blackburn Rovers, will also try to secure his services, since the two worked together well at Bolton.

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53 comments so far

  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #1

    Don’t really rate him, Faye was clearly making him look good at Bolton.

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  • azim

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #2

    yup spyro….upson would be better choice

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  • Whumpie

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #3

    One of the reasons Man-Citeh are doing so badly is that – ironically enough – they are in more of an unstable situation than Newcastle are.

    Just imagine being one of their players, knowing your boss has unlimited funds to get someone better than you. Not nice.

    As for Ben Haim, sounds ok but not exactly exciting stuff. But then, I think he is the kind of realistic target we can expect to go for in January. We shouldn’t hope for too much – nobody gets good, permanent signings in January.

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #4

    Would be good cover anywhere across the back four….good squad player…what we require….

    Upson is going to Sunderland….some mug is popping is name about linking him in the papers with us so when he turns up down the road, he turned us down ala Ferdinand….utter bollox….

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  • Darryl

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #5

    Except Evra and Vidic then Whumpie. Fairly sure these were aquired in Janurary.

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  • NE1

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #6

    I’d rather have Richard Dunne

    What does anyone make of these Given rumours??

    Arsenal for 8million. 8 million???!! Weren’t Man City gonna spend like 30 mill on Buffon!?
    Given (with a good back four) is in top 3 keepers in Europe… so 8 million – please!

    However, if a big offer 15mil + came in – I say take it.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #7

    Good point Whumpie

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  • BT9MAG

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #8

    I agree Spyro, but the fact is, City bought him for 5m and he’s done nothing since (not even kicked a ball for them for nearly a month), his price tag will have depreciated by a fair whack!

    As much as we hate to admit it – we’re desperate for Dennis Wise to pull off another ‘random’ signing…Hope Veterre is doing his homework!

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  • BT9MAG

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #9

    Darryl – didn’t we get Martins in January?

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  • NE1

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #10

    BT9MAG – no summer

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #11

    For a combined cost of 12 million Darryl….frightening….

    I was sitting having a god think about players we should go for last night…was at the game on Sunday and left at the end totally deflated…

    We had players in our side who at their prime were top class players…Unfortunatley they are all past there best…Duff, Owen, Butt, Geremi and Viduka have all played at the highest level and were pure quality in there prime….We have signed them on reputation, given them big wages, which is now hampering bringing new players into the club…

    We need to hunt out players who have the potential to become top class, make them feel welcome and back them 100%. Evra 5mill, Vidic 8mill, Adebayor, 7.5mill, Pires 7mill, Ashley Young 10mill, Henry 12 mill, Ronaldo 12 mill….All players who were picked up at good prices but by god they delivered…

    Viana 8 mill, Boumsong 8 mill, Bramble 5 mill, Luque 10 mill, Robert 10 mill (left for nowt) Owen 17 mill…..see where I am going here….

    Bassong at 1.5 million…young, hungry and very good….Habib Beye 2 million…top premiership right back…if we buy players for these type of prices in jan it dont mean we are going to get dross….the two players mentioned above were brought in by people who are not exactly loved on Tyneside are they…Wise and Allardyce….

    point is, give people a chance to come in and prove themselves…

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  • Toon1978

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #12

    Bean Haim would be a good back up player. It would make our defence even stronger with Beye,Bassong,Colocinne,Enrique,Taylor,Edgar,and hopefully an Upson of Ben Haim. Then we have the likes of Tozer,Kadar coming through the ranks. Things in the defensive department are looking promising. Its midfield where we suffer badly,funny as that was our strongest department a few years ago now we have a pensioner and a jail bird there.

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #13

    Where are these Given rumours coming from. There’s nothing of the SKYPORTS website.

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #14

    Oh and no we don’t want Ben Haim. He was garbage at Chelsea and now at Man City.

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #15

    * god think = good think but after sunday it may well have to be a god think 😉

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #16

    The Shay given roumours are all over the Newsnow website. Dam!

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  • NU_Fan

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #17

    Would be better to get Gareth Bale from spurs and Heskey from Wigan

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #18

    How is Given worth £8 Mil if that mackem keeper is worth £9 MIL?

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  • Whumpie

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #19

    To be honest, I don’t rate this rumour at all. We need defenders, but a centre-back? Nah.

    Oh, and LooneyToon and Daryll – good points!

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  • Loopy

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #20

    NO
    he is awful.

    We need a lot of players in Jan though they should be:

    Kightly
    Ledley
    Veloso
    Boyd
    Pandev
    Ninis
    Barnetta
    Zigic
    Camacho
    Santacroce
    Pekarik

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  • Toon1978

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #21

    Has anybody seen these young kids play in Joe Ledley and Kightly. If any of you have how good are they and will they do anything for NUFC?

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  • DANN

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #22

    Mathias Jorgensen would be a great signing.

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  • Nick

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #23

    I’m really worried about Joke Kinnear.

    I wouldn’t touch any of Upson ( aging, injury prone, huge fee & wages – sound familiar!,) Ben Haim ( very poor) or Dunne (very error prone.)
    Stick with Colo and Bassong and try and get Sissoko and Sakho in. They’d be worth the investment.

    What is overwhelmingly apparent is the need for a proper technically proficient manager. JK is hideously exposed with his seemingly endless tactless flaws. That, plus his reluctance to play Ranger and others, even for 20 mins, although Lua finally got 10 mins the other day.

    As much as good new young players in, we desperately need a massive clear out. Some player should just never play for us again.
    Principally: Butt, Smith, Viduka, Geremi, Cacapa and then a few.

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  • nufc4life

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #24

    i not sure if he would make us any better,
    i would try and sign,

    baines or the young german left back.
    upson- taylor to become right bk cause the lad cant header a ball.
    sissoko the young 1.
    bullard.
    defoe-sell owen for 6m.
    and a rm prob knightly from wolves

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #25

    There’s news coming out that Habib Beye is going to be out for up to 2 months. Looks as though we are going to need another right back far more urgently now.

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #26

    Given rumours are coming from some daily express reporter who has nowt better to do…

    its not like there are any other stories rattling around…factual ones about assaults for example….
    oh hang on SS breaking news
    “We are now crossing from Southport police station where something is happening about someone who is a quite good player so we mustnt upset him…our reporter David Craig is outside the gents at Newcastle United training ground where we can tell you Joey Barton has not wiped his arse correctly…damm disgrace…lock him up”

    Given wont leave….anyone who is in any doubt how good he is should take a peak of sundays game….8 million???!!! Quadruple that and I still wouldnt take it….

    If we are going to build a side we must keep players lke Shaymus…end of

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #27

    I’m sorry if Shay goes to Arsenal then fine i think we can understand and the lad deserves success, but Spurs. He is only increasing his chances of getting relegated by going there, if anyone saw them against Fulham and W.B.A they’d know that.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #28

    LooneyToon

    lol

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #29

    LooneyToon

    I know what you mean, i said before we would want more than 8 mil for him. Come on the mackem’s keeper cost 9 mil and given is 5x better than what he is.

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #30

    People need to remember that not every player wants to go to London….

    Shay has been here along time and has been quoted on numerous occations saying he considers this home….oh and recently he dont want to leave….

    boring tabloid gossip…Almunia is Arsenal Captain when Fabregas is out

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  • Spyro

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #31

    If we want more than 8million for Given then Spurs would be his destination. However, none of us want that, do we?

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #32

    Lol The Mirror says we are after Paddy Kenny as a replacement.

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  • Whumpie

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #33

    GIVEN

    IS

    GOING

    NOWHERE.

    You gullible muppets.

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #34

    Yes Dan….if they want him that much, show us the money..He has another 8 years left in him being a keeper….

    Players in…..

    Kightly…pacey with plenty of potential….
    Ledley….v promising midfielder…..

    would also test Leeds for Delph….mate of mine supports Hartlepool and went to Elland Road recently….alledge the boy stood out a country mile….centre mid…

    just a thought…would anyone have anyone of these players
    Cahill
    Lescott
    Jagielka
    Bale
    Walcott
    Ramsey
    Kenwyn Jones
    Palacios

    just a few names from the top of my head who were plucked from the championship…half decent side…
    dont knock it til we have tried it

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #35

    That aint a list of who we should go for by the way….just quality buys from the championship

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #36

    Whumpie
    I think some people have seen what happened with Milner and don’t trust Ashley + Wise to keep our better players doubtless of what the manager thinks.

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  • DanToon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #37

    Any money we get for Given will go to Sports Direct PLC not Newcastle Utd, as did Milner’s £12m. Sorry lads just as i see it!

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  • Dan157

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #38

    All this transfer speculation is yet to appear on anything credible. The Skysports website has nothing about Given or NZogbia. At the moment it’s just your typical rags which have made this sort of stuff up in the past before however if Arsenal were to put in an actual bid would you put it past Ashley to think only of the money, that is what the guy is all about. He may look at Given’s age and think we can get someone younger and who is on lower wages.

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #39

    Well DanToon…hope your wrong fella…proof will be in the pudding

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  • StevieA

    Dec 30, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #40

    I don’t mind signing quality players from the championship. I mean we did it with Dyer and Jenas back in the day and that worked out well.

    We have already bidded a decent sum for Delph but Ken Bates told us where to go. Ledley is a cracking player and could have the same impact as Cahill, Kightly is good player too very quick and direct.

    O’ Toole is also a good player that would add some quality to the squad. I also like Andy Driver from over the border but he’s a left winger, Newcastle born though!

    Plenty of players we can get who can improve the squad. The Ben Haim transfer would only happen if we sold Steven Taylor, I am convinced that Joe Kinnear doesn’t rate Steven or sees him as a player who upsets the balance in defence.

    Not too bothered about losing N’Zogbia, more bothered about Given but it depends what we do with the money. Can we build a better team? Would it give Harper a chance to shine?

    It will be an interesting January I think!

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