Kinnear – Shay’s Going Nowhere – Period


When we saw the statement released by Shay Given’s lawyer today, we already had Shay out of the club by the end of the month, and maybe not even in the team for tomorrow’s game.

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Joe Kinnear – good words about Shay from the boss

But somebody who has much more authority on such matters, some may say “thank goodness”, namely our fiesty Irish manager Joe Kinnear, has come out today with all guns blazing.

Joe has insisted in no uncertain way that our world-class goalkeeper is in fact going nowhere, and will definitely start for Newcastle United tomorrow at the KC Stadium for his 460th appearance for the club.

Joe seems determined to correct the very messy situation that exists right now at Newcastle as he said today:

“Shay is contracted until 2011, he’s our player, and he’s going to stay our player,”   “It’s as simple as that.”

“He’s an integral part of the team and the best goalkeeper in the league. So why would we jeopardize our position? It wouldn’t make sense.”

“As far as I’m concerned he will stay our player. He trained very well today and he will definitely be in the team tomorrow.”

“With all the distractions, I’m focused on the football. We will keep every player we have got who will help us to stay in the Premier League.”

“We’re going to stay up and the fact is I am looking to add to the squad.”

Good words from Joe – no doubt about that.

But Given also pointed out clearly in the statement from his lawyer, that he signed the contract 18 months ago when he was assured the Tyneside club would be building a team that could challenge for honors.

But that’s hardly happened, to be fair to Shay.

At the very least we hope that Shay’s actions will force Kinnear, Wise and Ashley (we’ll not even mention Llambias) and especially Ashley, to clearly demonstrate to Shay Given and the Newcastle United fans, that he does indeed intend to build a strong side, by bringing in some more than decent players to Newcastle, over the next 30 days or so.

If Joe can do that with the help of Dennis Wise, then we’ll have some chance of keeping Michael Owen and Shay Given at the club come the summer.

But Ashley must start putting his words into action – and quickly.



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137 comments so far

  • wigaz

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #1

    Ed do you not remeber what happened with milner? not going anywhere! said KK with a serious look on his face. Jimmy was man of the match also if you recall then sold a week later! this smells to familiar to me. God i hate Mike ashley! i’m going to hop in my tardis go back & kick f**K out of him before he buys the toon! he wont spend owt he’s a bellend!

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  • Piers

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #2

    All Joe says is that he wants to keep him……if Shay really wants out i don’t see how we can’t let him leave.

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  • ELFER

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #3

    I’m more concernced about our older players like Butt who where the main reason why we are always that low in the leage now for years.

    We need young and hungry players.

    Given is worldclass and he deserves to play in the CL and if wants to do that somewhere else thats fair. If we get good money I would not rule out the sale of him, becouse we could invest in our weak areas and ship out the likes of Butt etc once and for all.

    Harper deserves the shirt and we have many good young goalkeepers behind steve!

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  • Piers

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #4

    * can make him stay

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  • Spyro

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #5

    If City are sniffing about we should at least court their interest. Just look how much they are paying for bridge, a ridiculous amount. We could get a mini fortune for Given from them. Krul could then step up to the bench and Harper, our MOST LOYAL player can step into the starting 11.

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  • Dan157

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #6

    ELFER

    Man City will not be playing champions league football at least until the 2010-2011 season when Given will be 35. The only way for him to play in that would be to move to arsenal however Wenger has said today he doesn’t want another goalkeeper.

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  • Jonny

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #7

    i think this transfer window could be the defining moment for ashley – on one hand hes been making positive noises about spending and moving forward with stability, on the other weve got rumours about owen and given and of course all this happened with keegan. if he spends big here, keeps given and owen at end of season the majority of fans will be on his side, many are stil willing to forgive, but if he mucks it up here theres no way back. up to you mike.

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  • D.C.

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #8

    If Shay wants to leave we won’t be able to keep him. And as much as Shay has been brilliant for us over the years, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for both parties.

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  • mr pessimistic

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #9

    if given leaves we wont stick with just harper we will sign some one like paddy kenney and end up in the championship where likes of owen will bugger off for free and we will have to sell our underrperforming best players to subsodise bring ing the likes of chopra back. it is imperative this doesnt happen

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  • Spyro

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #10

    mr pessimisitc

    We won’t be in the championship and we wont need to sign another keep if Given leaves.

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  • mr pessimistic

    Jan 2, 2009 at 4:59 PM

    Comment #11

    hopefully even if shay leaves this wont be the case but as highly as i rate him, i dont think the club is in a position when they can experiment with sticking krul in between the sticks for major games so they will panic buy a bigger name who is shite.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #12

    mr pessimisitc

    Krul should step up to the first team squad and Steve ‘Mr Fantastic’ Harper should step up to first eleven.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #13

    Mr Pessimistic we have Steve Harper to fill Shay’s boots and Krul to fill in as No2.

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  • Cyprus-Toon

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #14

    Same ole, same ol…. JFK has said live on SSN that Given isn’t going anywhere & he’s spoken with hiim & he knew nothing about the statement by his lawyer….
    He’s contracted to the TOON until 2011, so we don’t have to give permission for other clubs to speak to him & then we can stick him in the reserves to rot.. lol… only kidding, he won’t go & all this is old news now!!! lets move on folks, more rumours out there to chat about now!!!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #15

    Spyro,
    I wouldn’t rule out the championship just yet my friend there is many games to go and we are in the thick of it right now..I am not being pessimistic just looking at the reality and the situation we are currently in.

    In 1 window we have gone from being linked to Arshavin,Turan etc to Rangers and Sheffield players that worries me silly to be honest.

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  • NUFCFAN

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM

    Comment #16

    Didnt KK say that he didnt want to sell milner and had high hopes for him being an england international etc, get the feeling that kinnear could be doing the same with Shay, bigging him up as highly as he can. If we can get 12mill for milner, i would be expecting 15 for Shay!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #17

    Maybe change our name to Sheffcastle Rangers haha

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  • jordi

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #18

    Ed – Unfortunately it doesn’t really matter what Kinnear says does it? History has taught us that.
    The only way I’d believe he’s staying is if he and Ashley released independent statements saying he was ‘going nowhere, period’.

    Given has been great for us and if he wants to go to challenge for honours then let him (I can’t see Spuds or Citeh doing that any time soon though) as long as we get a good price for him that we can invest back into the squad. I don’t think I’m alone in my belief that Harper is a more than capable replacement and we have a talented young keeper in Krul as back-up.

    Losing Given would be sad, more for an indication of how far the club has fallen in his eyes than how much we’d miss his skills to me, but that wouldn’t mean the end of our Premiership status or our club.

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  • Alex

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #19

    Mr pessimistic you seem to have forgotten HARPER is every bit as good as Given ,so why do you think we would buy yet another keeper even if Shay leaves .

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  • DAVCON22

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #20

    I keep hearing how we can’t stop Given from leaving.
    He’s still under contract till 2011.Do these contracts only work one way,the club showing commitment to the player?
    Only for a player to want out ,when things arn’t going well.
    He should be made to see out his contract.
    Yes he has been a great servant the club,when things have been going ok.But lets remember the lad has also been paid extremely well over the years,probably alot better paid if he had moved to any other club.
    Players got to much power when the Bosman thing happened,thats why salarys rocketed,letting players walk out on contracts gives them even more power,this is our money we’re talking about here.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #21

    I reckon 17m for Given if city are interested,add that to the invisible 12m for Milner then buy some decent players..maybe buy the whole wolves team and sack all our lazy senior squad.

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  • fostino

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #22

    re Ed:

    ive been saying it all morning and late last night when the story broke that it was a complete over-reaction from everyone, including the many..many articles of doom and gloom posted this morning on this blog about given defently going………we should never read too much into specalation and other people’s opinion until we hear information offically from the ‘horses mouth’ i.e the player, the gaffer or the owner or club spokesperson……everything apart from this is pure speculation

    the papers hnow what a mad bunch of fans we are, and how we’ll begin to believe nearly anything they speculate on, we need to stop over-reacting to every story we read and persuming the worst…………….we need to reignite the optimism in this club, and story’s like this dont help

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  • Spyro

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #23

    sirjasontoon

    Relegation is of course a possibility. However, the quality of our current first team is good enough to keep us up. West Brom, Stoke, Sunderland, Hull, Fulham, Bolton, Blackburn and West Ham will all drop a lot of points during the second half of the season and i fancy our chances of finishing above at least half of those teams.

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  • Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7)

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #24

    jasontoon- people from sheffield you refer to, is that naughton?? if it is its a very silly comment for you to make as the young lad is a future england star.

    who cares about arshavin, turan etc, i would prefer us to go the way villa have than the way spurs and man city are going.

    im sure qlot of people would agree with me.

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  • normski1930z

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #25

    the truth of the matter is the club is rotten to the core from the top downwards…. owner, chairman, manager>>>>>to want away players….spyro the championship is a very very real spectre…..make no mistake about that.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #26

    I was only messing spiderman,I have heard he is a good player so keep your wig on…I mean mask sorry spidey : )

    A couple of decent proven prem players would be nice though as is is not guaranteed fizzy pop players will make the grade in the premiership some do alot don’t..the gulf is rather big.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #27

    With Regards Naughton being a future England star you can never tell..not with the level of certainty you seem to have..he aint even kicked a ball in the premiership yet to my knowledge and surely if he was that great a top 4 side would buy him and maybe loan him out?

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  • Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7)

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #28

    no worrys jason, its just all the negativity today is unreal, i just want us to push on and get on with things, people say top six this year is unrealistic, its not!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #29

    I am hardly ever negative spiderman,I want the best for the club and some stability and quality on the park.

    I have no probs taking a punt on some fizzy pop lads.

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #30

    it,s funny that when ashley was supposedly selling up we had more stability,he made his statement on sunday,an in under a week of him back back suprise suprise destabilised again!!!.
    we were better off with him keeping his distance.
    mike ashley is definatley king midas in reverse.

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  • Dennis Twice

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #31

    ….i want my club back!

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  • safferusa

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #32

    i dont really care what JFK says, or givens lawyer, the player himself must make a statement of his intentions, mis-communication is what gets everyone worked up and carried away, it happens every week it seems.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #33

    But the odd player with a little prem experience wouldn’t go amiss right now either.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #34

    Man City have set a precedent for any teams trying to buy English players with their ridiculous valuation of Wayne Bridge.

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  • Don

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #35

    DAVCON22, and what loyalty to the players was there when the whole squad was made available on the last day on the last window?
    the reason Given wants out now is that Ashley has now said hes not selling.
    and it doesnt matter how much we get for Given 5, 10 or 20 million if we dont actually spend it on players and not just line Ashleys pocket, weve still spent next to nothing so far in the last 3 windows, and I dont really expect this one to be much different, probably sell Given then get another Xisco or Nacho type that no one wants

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  • joe-newcastle-fan

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #36

    re Alex

    i agree Harper is every bit good enough but how many times have the fans tried to be appeased by panic buys ? if given does leave the club will want to make a statement that we are not going backwards even though we are at the moment, and in my opinion regardless if we need to or not will buy an overated replacement that will land us in hot water. In the past Given has been linked with big money moves and i have felt that it would be good business, but this time around and with the clubs current position we need to take strength from somewhere and i can only see givens departure having an adverse effct on the players. Harper is a fantastic keeper but with the hype that will be made around givens departure the defense will feel nervous they dont have shay behind them will be even more flakey than usual and wil leave Harper exposed, no matter how good he is he isnt miracle man. Given must be kept, for a morale and statement of intent issue even more than simply his playing ability.

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #37

    spyro,what have they valued him at ?

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #38

    safferusa,you should live here mate you,ve seen nowt.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #39

    Trojan 69

    How long have you been visiting this site? You never seem to have anything positive to say and this has left me quite sceptical as to your motives for visiting this site.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #40

    Trojan 69

    Around 12million.

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