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Kinnear – Shay’s Going Nowhere – Period

4:33 pm, Friday, January 2nd, 2009 by Ed Harrison · 137 Comments

When we saw the statement released by Shay Given’s lawyer today, we already had Shay out of the club by the end of the month, and maybe not even in the team for tomorrow’s game.

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Joe Kinnear - good words about Shay from the boss

But somebody who has much more authority on such matters, some may say “thank goodness”, namely our fiesty Irish manager Joe Kinnear, has come out today with all guns blazing.

Joe has insisted in no uncertain way that our world-class goalkeeper is in fact going nowhere, and will definitely start for Newcastle United tomorrow at the KC Stadium for his 460th appearance for the club.

Joe seems determined to correct the very messy situation that exists right now at Newcastle as he said today:

“Shay is contracted until 2011, he’s our player, and he’s going to stay our player,”   “It’s as simple as that.”

“He’s an integral part of the team and the best goalkeeper in the league. So why would we jeopardize our position? It wouldn’t make sense.”

“As far as I’m concerned he will stay our player. He trained very well today and he will definitely be in the team tomorrow.”

“With all the distractions, I’m focused on the football. We will keep every player we have got who will help us to stay in the Premier League.”

“We’re going to stay up and the fact is I am looking to add to the squad.”

Good words from Joe – no doubt about that.

But Given also pointed out clearly in the statement from his lawyer, that he signed the contract 18 months ago when he was assured the Tyneside club would be building a team that could challenge for honors.

But that’s hardly happened, to be fair to Shay.

At the very least we hope that Shay’s actions will force Kinnear, Wise and Ashley (we’ll not even mention Llambias) and especially Ashley, to clearly demonstrate to Shay Given and the Newcastle United fans, that he does indeed intend to build a strong side, by bringing in some more than decent players to Newcastle, over the next 30 days or so.

If Joe can do that with the help of Dennis Wise, then we’ll have some chance of keeping Michael Owen and Shay Given at the club come the summer.

But Ashley must start putting his words into action – and quickly.



Tags: Michael Owen · Newcastle News · Shay Given · Transfer News and Rumours





137 responses so far ↓

  • 1 wigaz // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM

    Ed do you not remeber what happened with milner? not going anywhere! said KK with a serious look on his face. Jimmy was man of the match also if you recall then sold a week later! this smells to familiar to me. God i hate Mike ashley! i’m going to hop in my tardis go back & kick f**K out of him before he buys the toon! he wont spend owt he’s a bellend!

  • 2 Piers // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:41 PM

    All Joe says is that he wants to keep him……if Shay really wants out i don’t see how we can’t let him leave.

  • 3 ELFER // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    I’m more concernced about our older players like Butt who where the main reason why we are always that low in the leage now for years.

    We need young and hungry players.

    Given is worldclass and he deserves to play in the CL and if wants to do that somewhere else thats fair. If we get good money I would not rule out the sale of him, becouse we could invest in our weak areas and ship out the likes of Butt etc once and for all.

    Harper deserves the shirt and we have many good young goalkeepers behind steve!

  • 4 Piers // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    * can make him stay

  • 5 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:50 PM

    If City are sniffing about we should at least court their interest. Just look how much they are paying for bridge, a ridiculous amount. We could get a mini fortune for Given from them. Krul could then step up to the bench and Harper, our MOST LOYAL player can step into the starting 11.

  • 6 Dan157 // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:51 PM

    ELFER

    Man City will not be playing champions league football at least until the 2010-2011 season when Given will be 35. The only way for him to play in that would be to move to arsenal however Wenger has said today he doesn’t want another goalkeeper.

  • 7 Jonny // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:53 PM

    i think this transfer window could be the defining moment for ashley – on one hand hes been making positive noises about spending and moving forward with stability, on the other weve got rumours about owen and given and of course all this happened with keegan. if he spends big here, keeps given and owen at end of season the majority of fans will be on his side, many are stil willing to forgive, but if he mucks it up here theres no way back. up to you mike.

  • 8 D.C. // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM

    If Shay wants to leave we won’t be able to keep him. And as much as Shay has been brilliant for us over the years, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for both parties.

  • 9 mr pessimistic // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:55 PM

    if given leaves we wont stick with just harper we will sign some one like paddy kenney and end up in the championship where likes of owen will bugger off for free and we will have to sell our underrperforming best players to subsodise bring ing the likes of chopra back. it is imperative this doesnt happen

  • 10 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:57 PM

    mr pessimisitc

    We won’t be in the championship and we wont need to sign another keep if Given leaves.

  • 11 mr pessimistic // Jan 2, 2009 at 4:59 PM

    hopefully even if shay leaves this wont be the case but as highly as i rate him, i dont think the club is in a position when they can experiment with sticking krul in between the sticks for major games so they will panic buy a bigger name who is shite.

  • 12 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:05 PM

    mr pessimisitc

    Krul should step up to the first team squad and Steve ‘Mr Fantastic’ Harper should step up to first eleven.

  • 13 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Mr Pessimistic we have Steve Harper to fill Shay’s boots and Krul to fill in as No2.

  • 14 Cyprus-Toon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:08 PM

    Same ole, same ol…. JFK has said live on SSN that Given isn’t going anywhere & he’s spoken with hiim & he knew nothing about the statement by his lawyer….
    He’s contracted to the TOON until 2011, so we don’t have to give permission for other clubs to speak to him & then we can stick him in the reserves to rot.. lol… only kidding, he won’t go & all this is old news now!!! lets move on folks, more rumours out there to chat about now!!!

  • 15 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:09 PM

    Spyro,
    I wouldn’t rule out the championship just yet my friend there is many games to go and we are in the thick of it right now..I am not being pessimistic just looking at the reality and the situation we are currently in.

    In 1 window we have gone from being linked to Arshavin,Turan etc to Rangers and Sheffield players that worries me silly to be honest.

  • 16 NUFCFAN // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM

    Didnt KK say that he didnt want to sell milner and had high hopes for him being an england international etc, get the feeling that kinnear could be doing the same with Shay, bigging him up as highly as he can. If we can get 12mill for milner, i would be expecting 15 for Shay!

  • 17 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:12 PM

    Maybe change our name to Sheffcastle Rangers haha

  • 18 jordi // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:12 PM

    Ed – Unfortunately it doesn’t really matter what Kinnear says does it? History has taught us that.
    The only way I’d believe he’s staying is if he and Ashley released independent statements saying he was ‘going nowhere, period’.

    Given has been great for us and if he wants to go to challenge for honours then let him (I can’t see Spuds or Citeh doing that any time soon though) as long as we get a good price for him that we can invest back into the squad. I don’t think I’m alone in my belief that Harper is a more than capable replacement and we have a talented young keeper in Krul as back-up.

    Losing Given would be sad, more for an indication of how far the club has fallen in his eyes than how much we’d miss his skills to me, but that wouldn’t mean the end of our Premiership status or our club.

  • 19 Alex // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM

    Mr pessimistic you seem to have forgotten HARPER is every bit as good as Given ,so why do you think we would buy yet another keeper even if Shay leaves .

  • 20 DAVCON22 // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM

    I keep hearing how we can’t stop Given from leaving.
    He’s still under contract till 2011.Do these contracts only work one way,the club showing commitment to the player?
    Only for a player to want out ,when things arn’t going well.
    He should be made to see out his contract.
    Yes he has been a great servant the club,when things have been going ok.But lets remember the lad has also been paid extremely well over the years,probably alot better paid if he had moved to any other club.
    Players got to much power when the Bosman thing happened,thats why salarys rocketed,letting players walk out on contracts gives them even more power,this is our money we’re talking about here.

  • 21 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    I reckon 17m for Given if city are interested,add that to the invisible 12m for Milner then buy some decent players..maybe buy the whole wolves team and sack all our lazy senior squad.

  • 22 fostino // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    re Ed:

    ive been saying it all morning and late last night when the story broke that it was a complete over-reaction from everyone, including the many..many articles of doom and gloom posted this morning on this blog about given defently going………we should never read too much into specalation and other people’s opinion until we hear information offically from the ‘horses mouth’ i.e the player, the gaffer or the owner or club spokesperson……everything apart from this is pure speculation

    the papers hnow what a mad bunch of fans we are, and how we’ll begin to believe nearly anything they speculate on, we need to stop over-reacting to every story we read and persuming the worst…………….we need to reignite the optimism in this club, and story’s like this dont help

  • 23 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:15 PM

    sirjasontoon

    Relegation is of course a possibility. However, the quality of our current first team is good enough to keep us up. West Brom, Stoke, Sunderland, Hull, Fulham, Bolton, Blackburn and West Ham will all drop a lot of points during the second half of the season and i fancy our chances of finishing above at least half of those teams.

  • 24 Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:16 PM

    jasontoon- people from sheffield you refer to, is that naughton?? if it is its a very silly comment for you to make as the young lad is a future england star.

    who cares about arshavin, turan etc, i would prefer us to go the way villa have than the way spurs and man city are going.

    im sure qlot of people would agree with me.

  • 25 normski1930z // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:17 PM

    the truth of the matter is the club is rotten to the core from the top downwards…. owner, chairman, manager>>>>>to want away players….spyro the championship is a very very real spectre…..make no mistake about that.

  • 26 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:19 PM

    I was only messing spiderman,I have heard he is a good player so keep your wig on…I mean mask sorry spidey : )

    A couple of decent proven prem players would be nice though as is is not guaranteed fizzy pop players will make the grade in the premiership some do alot don’t..the gulf is rather big.

  • 27 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:22 PM

    With Regards Naughton being a future England star you can never tell..not with the level of certainty you seem to have..he aint even kicked a ball in the premiership yet to my knowledge and surely if he was that great a top 4 side would buy him and maybe loan him out?

  • 28 Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:23 PM

    no worrys jason, its just all the negativity today is unreal, i just want us to push on and get on with things, people say top six this year is unrealistic, its not!

  • 29 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:24 PM

    I am hardly ever negative spiderman,I want the best for the club and some stability and quality on the park.

    I have no probs taking a punt on some fizzy pop lads.

  • 30 TROJAN 69 // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    it,s funny that when ashley was supposedly selling up we had more stability,he made his statement on sunday,an in under a week of him back back suprise suprise destabilised again!!!.
    we were better off with him keeping his distance.
    mike ashley is definatley king midas in reverse.

  • 31 Dennis Twice // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    ….i want my club back!

  • 32 safferusa // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    i dont really care what JFK says, or givens lawyer, the player himself must make a statement of his intentions, mis-communication is what gets everyone worked up and carried away, it happens every week it seems.

  • 33 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:26 PM

    But the odd player with a little prem experience wouldn’t go amiss right now either.

  • 34 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:26 PM

    Man City have set a precedent for any teams trying to buy English players with their ridiculous valuation of Wayne Bridge.

  • 35 Don // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM

    DAVCON22, and what loyalty to the players was there when the whole squad was made available on the last day on the last window?
    the reason Given wants out now is that Ashley has now said hes not selling.
    and it doesnt matter how much we get for Given 5, 10 or 20 million if we dont actually spend it on players and not just line Ashleys pocket, weve still spent next to nothing so far in the last 3 windows, and I dont really expect this one to be much different, probably sell Given then get another Xisco or Nacho type that no one wants

  • 36 joe-newcastle-fan // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM

    re Alex

    i agree Harper is every bit good enough but how many times have the fans tried to be appeased by panic buys ? if given does leave the club will want to make a statement that we are not going backwards even though we are at the moment, and in my opinion regardless if we need to or not will buy an overated replacement that will land us in hot water. In the past Given has been linked with big money moves and i have felt that it would be good business, but this time around and with the clubs current position we need to take strength from somewhere and i can only see givens departure having an adverse effct on the players. Harper is a fantastic keeper but with the hype that will be made around givens departure the defense will feel nervous they dont have shay behind them will be even more flakey than usual and wil leave Harper exposed, no matter how good he is he isnt miracle man. Given must be kept, for a morale and statement of intent issue even more than simply his playing ability.

  • 37 TROJAN 69 // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:29 PM

    spyro,what have they valued him at ?

  • 38 TROJAN 69 // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:30 PM

    safferusa,you should live here mate you,ve seen nowt.

  • 39 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM

    Trojan 69

    How long have you been visiting this site? You never seem to have anything positive to say and this has left me quite sceptical as to your motives for visiting this site.

  • 40 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM

    Trojan 69

    Around 12million.

  • 41 Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:33 PM

    top four sides want him. he will be a future star

  • 42 fostino // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:33 PM

    personally i think a good F.A. cup run is important to the club to raise spirts, the further you progress the more you believe and i believe on our day, were a match for any team, something tell’s me hull won’t be too pushed about it and may even put out a second string side, especially in this busy xmas period, as there only priority will be the league. however this still means we have to turn up and deliver against whatever side they field!!

    p.s. does anyone know what matches are been shown on the telly this weekend??

  • 43 TROJAN 69 // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:36 PM

    spyro,dont get where your coming from,of course it,s all negative at the moment it has been for a long time.
    my motives?i,m from newcastle,all my family are fans,some of my family work there,my uncle passed away untimely two years ago at just 50 years old.
    newcastle utd was his life,to see it being denigrated to this is an insult to his memory so i,m sorry for being negative.

  • 44 Obafan // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:36 PM

    2nd day of the window and we know nothing. What are Ashley’s plans??? Noone knows, I think Ashley himself doesn’t know his own plans.

    I am not optimistic at all and that does not have got to doa nything about Given leaving or not, but it all has got to do with the man who owes our club, who I do not trust at all. I hope he can turnaround my thoughts, but …

  • 45 The Entertainers // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:38 PM

    Its Jan’ the 2nd and i wish Feb was here already !

    Jan’ is a month of opitimisim and hope. Newcastle are predicted to be very active this month.

    Owen has stated he will not leave this month and Given cant without the say so of Ashley.

    Yes i know we had the whole Milner debarcle in the summer, but it was a great deal and as good as Milner is / was he was hardly the best RW in the league, unlike Given!

    The only mistakes we made with Milner, were the lies! Also we never replaced him.

    Selling Given would be madness , Milner wasnt.

    We just need to be prepared in Jan’, unlike the summer when only half a job was done!

    We clearly have people at the club who have an eye for a player, we just need to act quicker.

  • 46 Ally // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:39 PM

    I have have previosly stated about other NUFC players if they want to leave then fair enough on conditions

    That it is in the best interest of NUFC and not the player.

    lets try and get the best deal financially aswell if it is city lets inflate the price why not they have a bottomless pit then we will see how much they want him!

  • 47 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:41 PM

    How much money do you think Ashley would need to spend in this window to prove he is on our side?

    I think if he spent around £50m the majority would get off his back..I will be surprised if we spend even £10m if I am honest…my expectations are minimal after the last 3 windows and all the letdowns.

  • 48 dillon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:45 PM

    KRUL

  • 49 normski1930z // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:46 PM

    jas he could spend 100million i for one would still not trust this guy….i have a season ticket(that i cut up earlier in the season) and have not bothered to get it replaced,i have not been to a game since bolton at home.

  • 50 TROJAN 69 // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:47 PM

    sirjasontoon,that,s the point how much would be enough?dont think the amount is the problem it,s the token gesture statements and lack of commitment that pee me off with him,and his constant lies ,backtracking,not taking any responsibility for anything.

  • 51 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:48 PM

    Trojan 69

    Fair enough.

    It is just that during the summer this site was filled with people (most probably employed by tabloid papers) trying to stir up trouble. This was obvious as there were blatant connections between the opinions on this site and articles released soon after. Once, a comment posted by ‘The Entertainers’ was even quoted in one of those tasteless publications to reinforce one of their points.

    This is why i am always a bit iffy with people who only post negative comments.

  • 52 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM

    It’s early doors in the window..we need players desperately…I just hope we spend some money and get some players willing to fight for survival.

  • 53 TROJAN 69 // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM

    spyro,it,s just i cannot forgive the b*****d,to waltz in and start wearing a top then create all this negativity,and my uncle followed them all his life it rankles a lot.

  • 54 tino97 // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM

    Kinnear never said that Given actually wanted to stay. I think he will end up at Man City either in January or the summer. How about a deal involving Elano, plus cash.

  • 55 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:56 PM

    If we can spark a bidding war from tottenham, arsenal and man city, im sure we can get 12 m minimum for him. Here’s my suggestinons on south america;s top talent. destined to be the best in the world.

    jorge valdivia is playing for al ain in UAE. Incredible winger full of skills.
    matias fernandez this guy has to be seen to believe how good he is… has clashed with pelegrini at villarreal and isnt in the team at the moment has a 50 m euro tag though.
    alexis sanchez called the new ronaldo.

    look them up on youtube and tell me what you think. These guys are bringing chile to the world cup.

  • 56 Little Willie // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:56 PM

    sirjasontoon //

    How much money do you think Ashley would need to spend in this window to prove he is on our side?

    I think if he spent around £50m the majority would get off his back..I will be surprised if we spend even £10m if I am honest…my expectations are minimal after the last 3 windows and all the letdowns.

    —————-

    £50 million?!

    It’s never going to happen and it’s not a surprise if you feel let down if that’s what you’re expecting.

  • 57 reillers // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:58 PM

    At this stage I don’t think he ever wanted out, I think the statement was made, which is a confusing statement that I’d question if Shay knew much about, to scare living daylights out of the powers that be in the club.
    Because like, he wants to be winning things, not just MOTM awards, and thats fine. But looking at the clubs that were interested.
    Arsenal is one thing, but out of the top 4 they are the least likely at the minute to win tropheys and besides that Wenger doesn’t like spending a lot of money, especially this time of year and that little money he will spend he’ll want to spend on a replacment for Fabregas who’s out for a few months.
    Then what, the other options being Spurs and City, City may have the money, but in reality he’ll just be swopping on relegation fight for another. I think this was a complete PR stunt to scare the living daylights out of us all and force the guys in charge at the club into making some good buys.

  • 58 tino97 // Jan 2, 2009 at 5:59 PM

    lets be honest albert luque looked good on youtube. So you can’t go off that…..
    Joe has said he has put bids in already for players. But the clubs are in the same position as us, near the bottom of the league and don’t want to sell. Plus there are many clubs bidding.

  • 59 Little Willie // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:02 PM

    I think you could be right, reillers.

    After all if he wanted out then he would have put in a transfer request, but he didn’t.

    Every transfer window for years now Given has moaned about the size of the squad, I think this is a similar statement that he knows will get more attention.

  • 60 beyethegreat // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:02 PM

    spyro you may have a point their

    can you remember some1 on this site called GOOFTROOP

  • 61 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:03 PM

    Trojan 69

    Never did like the pretentious ‘shirt wearing, bear downing’ MA that used to go to matches. I thought it was cringe worthy to be honest. I would much rather he was just a normal chairman who spent his time in the office. However, sustainability is obviously a factor he always takes into consideration and i can’t fault the man if that is how he wants to run the club. I just think MA is a bit of a scapegoat for many who are frustrated with how poor a side we have become over the ast 5 years or so.

  • 62 Normag // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:03 PM

    I think we should cash in on Given if we can get £12-15m from City. Harper is a great keeper and with Krul and Forester as backup, we would do just fine in that department.

    Cash in and use an extra £15m and we would maybe have as much as £30m to spend in January!

  • 63 Anne Casson // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:05 PM

    Shay Given I wish you well wherever you go. You deseve better.Ashley has brought our Club to the pits. Yeah may have cleared the debt but destroyed our Club over the last 6 months. Could see Given was down from the beginning of the Liverpool game. Just opening the exit doors for anyone with talent to leave..we’ll still keep the crap (ameobi, smith, viduka etc) cause nobody else wants them. Been a season ticket holder for over 30 years and gonna cancel my direct debit in February. So much for a Happy new year.

  • 64 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:07 PM

    Albert Luque looked amazing on youtube I was like wow what a player haha

    I think Mike needs to spend his way back into the Toon Fans good books..12m milner 12m Given then 26m of the TV money sorted : )

    Dunno how much he will spend..I just got bored of hating him so trying to keep positive.

    If he does show intent in the market and spends a decent wack then more fans will be on his side..at the moment me personally I am just watching the show roll on…seeing what happens or what doesn’t happen.

  • 65 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:08 PM

    tino97- you’re right about youtube, but check their stats… also Ive watched these guys for a couple of years now. tremendous players. I would urge you to watch chile’s next game… the forward playing at the moment is magical

  • 66 oga // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:09 PM

    I knew we bif for Fabian Delph, but I didn’t realise we only bid £1million.

    That is extremely embarrassing, seeing as Fulham have bid 6mil and Man Utd have just matched that.

    ASHLEY OUT!

  • 67 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:09 PM

    Beyethegreat

    No i never caught that one, but yes i get your point. Many names would pop up two or three times and then disappear altogether. Strange eh?..

  • 68 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:13 PM

    I think you should need to verify to Ed that you are a toon supporter or maybe pay a few quid to allow posting..it would certainly stop the Nados and AO’s (are these the same idiots anyway?)etc posting crap on here.

  • 69 The Entertainers // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:14 PM

    @ Spyro

    Tasteless ?

    Now, now it was the Times.

    I would have taken action if had been The Daily Mail, however!

    Feelings were very strong over the summer and credit to that paper at least it attempted to get a genuine fans point of view rather than make up rubbish like many other rags have done so!

    NUFCBLOG is a very mixed bag there are like yourself some very honest and levelheaded writers on here. However there is a mix of ‘modern day fans’ following Newcastle.

    What i mean by that is they want success NOW!
    Dont understand why Ashley doesnt spend 100 million EVRY transfer window
    Believe that the youth team should replace the 1st team
    And select new players, depending how well they perform on a computer game!

    However i would like to think i come across well balanced. I try to remain positive most of the time, however as a Newcastle United fan when i feel let down i will let my feelings know and no that doesnt mean i will be striping my bed to make banners!

  • 70 Shot Bru! // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:14 PM

    Latin americatoon how come Valdivia ended up in the UAE and not Europe?

  • 71 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:19 PM

    they snaped him up first and only got him for 8 m euros from palmeiras after he was voted best winger of the brazilian league. he was linked to many top clubs at the time. Im sure we could lure him to the premiership for 10 m

  • 72 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:20 PM

    he has scored 9 goals in 8 since being with al ain

  • 73 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:24 PM

    The Entertainers

    Fair enough mate. To tell the truth, couldn’t remember which one it was, i just remember seeing your blog name :D .

    Regarding your comments, i agree, they generally are quite well balanced.

  • 74 AndrewNUFC // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:26 PM

    Has that carmed you down Ed, you were going on as if we were all going to die before

  • 75 tino97 // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:29 PM

    We can’t really judge until the transfer period is over. I just hope our squad is in better at the end of January than it is now. But don’t have much faith in Ashley tbh. Though we are one of the few clubs that isn’t in debt. So in reallity we don’t need to sell. Like Portsmouth, West Ham. But they will try to haggle to get the most money out of their players. We have already seen it with Bellamy.

  • 76 JonnyNUFC // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:36 PM

    We are still in debt Tino, that was one of the reasons Ashley couldnt sell.

    Hopefully Ashleys learnt at this point that he has to risk a little of his own money to get the chance of having a better squad going.

    I reckon this Given situation is a godsend to him. Sell Given..and use some/all the money on other transfers. Pocket whatevers left over.

    He needs to sort Harpers contract if hes going to let that happen though.

  • 77 bill // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM

    Shay Given is probably one of the most respected players at NUFC, and we know from previous comments that he was not happy about what has been going on at the club. I don’t think Shay was only speaking for himself when he has questioned what has been going on. This latest statement by Shay’s lawyer is probably exactly what he feels about what is going on at the club. I also think that this statement is indicative of what most of the players are feeling at present.

    I hate to keep on with negative comments, but from what I have seen so far from Mr Ashley, he has no intention of spending money on the team.

    Regarding JFK’s comments that Shay Given is going nowhere, well, that is easy to say, but if Shay wants to go JFK will have little option other than letting him go.

    I don’t think Shay wants to leave NUFC but he is like most of us, just sick of broken promises.

  • 78 Stuart // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM

    Joe does have a bit of history with regards to making statements about the club.

    Wouldn’t be suprised if he’s got this one totally wrong too.

    Wouldn’t be too bothered if we could get 10m for him though. Well as long as we can spend the money we get that is.

    Think Ashley does need to take the majority of the blame here as although the club was a basket case pre Ashley he’s taken us to a whole new level of turmoil and ridiculousness!

  • 79 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM

    Johnny- to get 12 m for a 32 year olf keeper in this current market would be a Godsend for the club on all levels… we have good cover we can reinvest the only concern and I mean “Big” concern is that he is our most senior player and could really have a negative effect on the dressign room and open the doors to more players leaving.

  • 80 micepie // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:44 PM

    Though on the one hand I’m very happy if Guven stays too, if we got 8M it’d be a shame not to sell just so long as it’s reinvested. Then promote Harper and Krul with little fuss made.

    Except it wouldn’t be like that because the football press are generally sad and pathetic. and would insist on making a Given sale seem all doom and gloom, as a bad omen.
    In fact, if we used 8M wisely we’d be in a much better position!

  • 81 beyethegreat // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:44 PM

    spyro

    when barton came out

    the sun reported that nearly all the fans on here ditested barton9when it was 50 -50

    and then gave comments from people who i tried looking for but strangley couldnt find

    1 name mentioned was goof troop

    i was wonderin if you had heard of him

    imo they made it up

    that is not the type of names we get on this blog

    also do you think the same as the me and a lot of others that most journos are pricks trying to unsettlle our club

  • 82 nando // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:45 PM

    makes me laugh that he wants to talk to spurs and see what they have to say. Especially as people on here tell me newcastle are a bigger club and shay loves newcastle, blah,blah,blah.

    I said 3 weeks ago harry had tapped him up and he would join spurs. Obviously if arsenal are now in for him he will probably go there but it is still nice to know that your best player and a newcastle ledgend thinks he has more chance of success at little old spurs. haha.

  • 83 Shot Bru! // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:49 PM

    Cheers for the info latinamericatoon, those players you recommended are great talents. I’m sure Kinnear must be aware of the top talent in Chile as he was out there himself only last year doing a bit of scouting. It’s gonna be more difficult buying players from overseas especially the way Sterling has crashed, and in particular against the euro. Players from abroad are now 30% more expensive than in summer just because of the exchange rate, maybe this is the reason we are being linked with more players based in the UK.

  • 84 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:51 PM

    nando we are doing crap at the moment theres no doubt about it. but despite that we always do better than you and beat you. If shay leaves he is leaving due to the behind the scenes problems… and yes he along with any other player in the world would chose arsenal over spurs

  • 85 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:52 PM

    Beyethegreat

    Probably was made up. Or they probably made the comment under the name.

    nando

    At least wait until Given confirms before you start. Haven’t seen you on here since, well, since before we beat you.

  • 86 beyethegreat // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:55 PM

    nando

    if hhe leaves it is to citeh

    or an italian club i seriousely doubt he would wanna go to spurs

    that was his lawyer talking and from what has been gatherred it was out of turn

  • 87 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:56 PM

    no worries shot bru! you should see the talent there is on the streets in south america! there are futur world stars waiting to be snaped up if only we take a risk. alot of eastern european teams are snapping them up for cheap. another player I wanted us to buy and who was linked to real manu and liverpool but was snaped up by shaktar was marcelo martins moreno. young bolivian striker. very fast great at holding up the ball.. called the machine gun was top scorer in brazil at 18

  • 88 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:57 PM

    No one bite the nando comment..ignore.
    Cheers

  • 89 M.Stockley // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:57 PM

    nando- you are an arse clown

  • 90 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:58 PM

    sirjasontoon

    I actually want to have a discussion with him.

  • 91 neeraj // Jan 2, 2009 at 6:59 PM

    hey
    its good old nando, wheres AO
    AO was more realistic, HE ACCEPTED SPURS ARE BS

  • 92 beyethegreat // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:00 PM

    nando

    if anything youre more likely to end up with our back up keeper steve harper

  • 93 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:01 PM

    Go on Spyro…I just hate him and want to conserve my energy : )

  • 94 Shot Bru! // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:02 PM

    Latinamericatoon Marcelo Moreno Martins is insane, now that would be a signing. Imagine Martins and Martins up front for the toon so good we had to name them twice.

  • 95 Spyro // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:02 PM

    Beyethegreat

    I would rather we kept Harper and sold Given. Both are class keepers but we would recieve much more for Given. Also, Harper is older so Krul won’t have to wait that long until he is first team.

  • 96 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:06 PM

    shot bru! hehe deffo… but on a serious note they would complement each other really well.

  • 97 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:06 PM

    Nando…nobody gives a damn about you or spurs.
    You Spudz aint doing too great either you Gimp.

  • 98 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:07 PM

    oh god, nando is back. just because the year has changed doesnt mean the fortune of the yids will do the same you mong.
    We beat you, you’re still lower than us in the league and you wont get given. Deal with it mate.

  • 99 beyethegreat // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:09 PM

    spyro

    i know it would be better for our club i we get decent mnoey for given(and any1 who doesnt is in denial)

    but i would like both to stay

    they both are apart of the foundations

    i would be gutted to see him leave what makes me most upset is the idea of him wanting to leave

    its a shame coz harper could be playin for england if not for given

    from what i have seen and heard krul will be better than given

    then to think we have forster who sky scout has ratedas a future england international

    then soderberg?

    then we signed that young 14 year old didnt

    his lat name is alnwick

  • 100 neeraj // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:09 PM

    sirjasontoon

    we should good relationship with spurs, coz after they get relegated, we need a club that we would call OFFLOAD CLUB, where our crap players would be bought at an unimaginable price….

  • 101 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:09 PM

    Well said Ross..the couldn’t even get Krul : )
    Bunch of Jokers, be great when Harry gets them relegated haha

  • 102 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:12 PM

    Well said Neeraj : )
    The guy is a muppet end of story…as well as being

    Sad
    Lonely
    Bored
    Deluded

    Rant over.

  • 103 beyethegreat // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:17 PM

    sirjason

    you are talking out your arse sayin hr will get spudz relegated

    every1 knows he is gonna leave them 1st my bet is for citeh when hughes gets the boot lol

  • 104 Dennis Twice // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:17 PM

    sick of broken promises….

    1 in + 2 loans

    Out

    3-5 players.

    …Ash gonna make some cash

  • 105 valle // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM

    ……………..Given………………
    .
    Beye….Bass…Upson…Warnock
    .
    Jonas… Bullard… Barton…Duff
    .
    ………..Oba…………Heskey……..

    In, strengt and graft in Warnock, Bullard, Upson and Heskey.
    Out, Unstability and hig wages in Owen, Viduka and Zog.

    Very doable, and a team that can put some steel into our side. Also add a few youngsters, with hopefully one or 2 more Bassongs and we have a pretty good side.

  • 106 nando // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:23 PM

    sirjasontoon- your still upset about the poem i made up about you i see. If newcastle are so great why does shay want to speak to us? We wont offer him more money and i am sure he already knows this. It will only be because he sees it as furthering his career.

    Kinnear coming out and saying he wont be sold is bollocks. Kinnear and shay both know the score. Shay wouldnt have alienated himself from the fans if he wasnt sure that ashley would sell him and that one of the interested clubs wouldnt come up with the funds to buy him.

    Even if he does stay you now have an unhappy player who has made it clear that you dont match his ambitions.

  • 107 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:23 PM

    valle i cant see what duff brings to the team apart from constant running

  • 108 valle // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM

    LatinAmericaToon… Well, he has been bad for us in his first 2 years, but i really think he has turned on the afterburners. He dares to run at people and he often gets in on goal… I really think people are still on his back because if his start here and just wont accept that he has upped his play… If you can get yourself to watch our latest game again, you will see that he is our only player who actually gets past his man, to often, there just werent anyone to get on the end of his crosses.

  • 109 beyethegreat // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:32 PM

    nando

    i would bet you anything that given does not leave to spurs

  • 110 valle // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM

    nando… Since when has 3rd person statements and London papers spoken the truth and predicted the future?… Even IF he goes, there will be bigger fish after him than Spurs, which really isnt a step up, and IF he does, we properly have the best goalie backup in the league with Harper and Krul, so it wouldnt be the end, merely a start of something new… He wont be around forever anyway you know.

  • 111 LATINAMERICATOON // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:38 PM

    valle- i see what you mean. he has been much better this season and was kept out by an in form zog, when he got injured. but he still has it all to prove. I would personal kill to have jonas start on the left as thats his prefered position and he is lethal there

  • 112 sirjasontoon // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:44 PM

    Funny as Hell that Beye haha

    Nando Shhhhh you bore me.

  • 113 Timmers // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM

    Why does Shay want to go to Spurs?

  • 114 valle // Jan 2, 2009 at 7:54 PM

    Latin… Who would you like on the right then?… a realistic choice ofc

  • 115 ed_speed // Jan 2, 2009 at 8:14 PM

    mike ashley = the cheshire cat.

    need more be said?

    regards,
    ed

  • 116 MDS // Jan 2, 2009 at 8:20 PM

    Given is the best goalkeeper in the prem and I’d hate to see him go. But woth all the holes on this team wouldn’t you let him go for 15M? GK is our one position of depth. What should they do? Keep Given til 2011, wasting Krul and Foster who are going to want to progress their careers?

    And please don’t say we can still sign other players. It is becoming clear that without sales there will be little in the tranfer kitty. Who would poosibly want Smith, Cacapa, Xisco, etc. when they can’t even get on the pitch of a bottom third squad?

  • 117 buddy // Jan 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM

    ed speed,

    the irregularity of your comments recently have been conspicious??
    whats happening?? humour is needed in these darkest of times.

    guys,
    im reli not sure whether given leavin will b all that bad BUT the fact he wants to leave is very worryin. january is a big month, it will tell a lot.

  • 118 buddy // Jan 2, 2009 at 8:49 PM

    cheers

  • 119 chuck // Jan 2, 2009 at 8:53 PM

    What kind of fans are you ?
    To advocate the sale of the clubs biggest asset, someone who has not only performed as a great goalie but has been a perfect member of the community, doing charity work and PR on behalf of the club.
    And its, sling yer hook mate eleven perfect years mean nowt !
    But it was Shearer this Shearer that, C`mon Shearer was an egotistical ass***e, but he was a local ass***e.
    You guys dont deserve a player of Givens stature and if he does go you will see just how good are Harper and Krul.

  • 120 reillers // Jan 2, 2009 at 9:08 PM

    TBH.
    Harper is a good keeper, not as good as Given, but good. As for Krul, I think he is really overrated by NUFC fans. Some seem to think that he is the next coming, but we’ve seen him play what, once for us, and then he’s gone and played on loan. Nothing much has justified his ratings from some of the fans.
    He may be great but I don’t think that he’s shown anything, he hasn’t had the chance to show anything, but I don’t know where yere getting all this hype from.

  • 121 wigaz // Jan 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM

    Mike Ashley looks like Bobby from King of the Hill!

  • 122 Ben_BKK // Jan 2, 2009 at 9:45 PM

    wigaz, been on The Guardian football galleries eh? :P

  • 123 wigaz // Jan 2, 2009 at 9:58 PM

    Think it was on news now i seen it LMAO! ha ha! BOBBY!!!

  • 124 Ben_BKK // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:05 PM

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/gallery/2008/dec/18/the-gallery-football-review-special-2008?picture=340416297

    Some great pictures there, including a few about Newcastle ;)

  • 125 wigaz // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:06 PM

    I would put it on but i’m an IT idiot and dont know how? You help me out Ben? think it would get a few chuckles like! lets all laugh at ashley coz he’s laughin at us.

  • 126 wigaz // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:08 PM

    Nice Ben I think you have already done it mate. That one of Ashley is a laugh like.

  • 127 Ben_BKK // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:08 PM

    Joe Kinnear:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/gallery/2008/oct/16/newcastle-united-joe-kinnear?picture=338615279

    The general fiasco (includes Mike Ashley as Bobby Hill):
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/gallery/2008/sep/24/newcastleunited?picture=337933464

    Not sure how to get the specific picture up, sorry…

  • 128 Ben_BKK // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:10 PM

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/gallery/2008/sep/24/newcastleunited?picture=337933458

    That’s the specific one of Ashley as Bobby Hill lol

  • 129 Ben_BKK // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:12 PM

    They’ve got a couple of good galleries on there, one for the ‘fiasco’ as they call it, and one for Joe Kinnear.

    I posted links but it says they have to be moderated. I’m sure you can find your own ways to them :P

  • 130 wigaz // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:12 PM

    Ha ha class! there was one when i typed it in google which had them side by side which was mint! i dont know how to attach though mate.

  • 131 Ben_BKK // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:15 PM

    http://www.herecomestheboss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ashley3.jpg

    Is that it?

  • 132 wigaz // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM

    Thats the one ben! ha ha! legend mate! how do you attach? i’m crap like tried to have a go but just couldn’t do it.

  • 133 Ben_BKK // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:41 PM

    Sorry for the late reply… You just click once in the web address bar, and all the writing should be highlighted (if not, you can just click and drag to highlight it yourself).
    Then right-click and press copy, and in the comment box on this site, right click and press paste.

  • 134 Bobby Ollox // Jan 2, 2009 at 10:45 PM

    No lawyer making a pre-prepared statement to the press on behalf of his client would be so stupid as to say anything that wasnt utterly and completely bona fide. This isn’t an odd sentence being misquoted – the meaning of it is very clear – and it is exactly what Shay wants the world to know – he is embarassed and humiliated – no goalkeeper wants to have 5 goals on his record and it must feel to him that he as been doing this every week of his life – the good times are heavily outweighed by the bad ones.

    After a proven goal scorer, a good goal keeper is the next most important element of a team. Dont anyone be fooled by people saying it doesnt matter i he leaves – his talent is worth a goal to us every other match – imagine where we would be now based on some of the margins we have scraped by on.

    And even if we have a keeper who was nearly ass good – the morale hit on having one of your senior players leaving would just be disasterous.

    Our only hope is that this is his final warning to the club – buck up or else..

  • 135 reillers // Jan 3, 2009 at 12:13 AM

    If he stays great, if he doesn’t good luck to him, but even if he stays, what actually is most painful thing in all of this is that the wee lad from Lifford, the most loyal, who always had faith and belief, no longer thinks that this club will go anywhere, that the club has slipped down in his eyes, that he has no hope left. And I don’t blame him one bit.

  • 136 Rob // Jan 3, 2009 at 1:28 AM

    Agreed reillers, be gutted if he goes but Shay owes us nothing (unlike Owen) and I really can’t blame him for wanting out.

    We’re a total bloody shambles..

  • 137 Sav // Jan 3, 2009 at 12:32 PM

    Hmmm….hmmmmmm….hummmm….I’m not listening….hummmmm.
    Joe. Please cop onto yoursel’.




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