Let’s Hope Given Will Not Move Out Like James Milner Did


There was certainly mass confusion yesterday, after Shay Given’s lawyer Michael Kennedy, released a statement on behalf of his player, and said Shay would consider his options at Newcastle, and that the Liverpool game had been the lowest point of Shay’s career.

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Shay GIven – Kinnear says he’s going nowhere

Newcastle will sell at least three players of their squad in January, or at least that seems to be the plan, but fans will be hoping those departures will not include their long-serving goalkeeper, Shay Given, who has made 459 appearances for the club.

After yesterday statement was all over the media, and then some, Joe rightly tried to play down the news and said:

“I have not got any unhappy players in my squad,” “After speaking to him (Shay) this morning I have no problems whatsoever with playing him. I had a coffee with him on Friday morning.”

“I think he’s probably frustrated. It’s not the first time he’s been linked with a move away. It’s nothing new and I can understand his frustration at last week’s performance.”

“Michael Kennedy said he spoke just to one single journalist and he’s let something slip. No, it’s not a situation where Shay said he needed to say it (the statement),”

“The guy (Kennedy) said it to test the market after talking to one reporter and it’s snowballed from there. The first I knew about it was in the Press – it wasn’t a phone call to me. The bit about three clubs being in for Shay is not true.”

We can only think back to when James Milner left the club in August, and at that time there was also disbelief from both the manager and fans that we would ever let James Milner go.

Milner apparently wanted to stay at Newcastle with a new contract, or so we were told, and Kevin Keegan certainly didn’t want to lose him, but he was nevertheless shipped out when the fee from Aston Villa reached £12M.

And the same thing may just happen if Manchester City, as one example, come in with silly money for Shay.

We wish it wasn’t true but we think that scenario could still happen, so we’ll be holding our breath a little this month. We had hoped the squad would be strengthened this month and not weakened.

But we really don’t want to lose our best players, since that will only hinder Kinnear’s attempts to bring good players into the club this month, and it will not be easy to start with.

Let’s hope we win today at the KC Stadium, and the defense plays a lot lot better in front of Shay, than they did last Sunday.

Hopefully that will cheer Shay up a little, not to even mention the very long suffering Newcastle fans.

Comments welcome.



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50 comments so far

  • adam

    Jan 3, 2009 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #1

    given is a legend! easily my favourite toon player

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  • t-g-w

    Jan 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #2

    If there is talk of Buffon costing Citeh 50 million, I think we could realistically get more than the 8 million that people are hoping for for Shay. Aren’t they about the same age?

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  • Driver8

    Jan 3, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #3

    Look on the bright side, we could use the money to buy another Xisco or two-thirds of a Luque

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  • Sav

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #4

    When I think of’ strippers’, Mike Ashley is not the first that usually comes to mind….however….the tassels are swinging on Derek Llambias’ man-boobs as I write.

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  • Jezza

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #5

    Given will go. That is a certainty, because Ashley will make sure of it, just like he made sure he cashed in on Milner in the summer, as well as Faye and Emre. Ashley’s only interestin NUFC is to use the clab as a cash cow by systematically selling off all the best players.

    The proof of the pudding will be when Given is omitted from the team at Hull this afternoon, on Ashley’s orders, to prevent him from becoming cup tied.

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  • Partizan

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #6

    t-g-w…..No they’re not,Given is 2 years older.

    Buffon is a World Champion with Italy t-g-w and realisticly if they’ve offered 50 mill for him,then Given should be around 11 mill imo.

    Plus Buffon is a big marketing name t-g-w….its not just his abilities that City wants to buy.

    I havent seen even one commercial with Given so far.

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  • Michael12

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #7

    Look you need to stop provoking yourselves. Given going could be a blessing in disguise. When Andy Cole left you thought it was the end of the world but had Cole not left, We may not have had Shearer or the players that came after him.

    Reserve your judgments for now until we after the transfer window has closed.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #8

    Michael12

    Im with you on this one.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #9

    Partizan

    Don’t bother with them. Half of these people do not know how to apply basic logic to these transfer dealings.

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  • El Stigage

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #10

    In reallity would you go if you were Shay? Although I love the club, surely Shay’s patience has got to be running out! If I was Shay I think it would be time to leave. He has his best years as a goal keeper in front of him and deserves to be playing in the Champions League or at least Europe. Would it really be a disaster if we sold Shay? Harps is a worthy stand in and if we could get 1o million for Given it might just save our season. I’d hate to see him go but maybe it’s for the greater good.

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  • reillers

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #11

    Jezza, Given’s starting this afternoon.

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  • Driver8

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #12

    Micheal. I agree we can only judge at the end of the transfer window, but the difference with Cole leaving (although I actually think that was a mistake), is that the person signing new players had a fantastic track record so we had confidence that something positive would follow.

    I can only speak for myself, but I don’t have that confidence at the moment.

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  • Partizan

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #13

    Spyro…..And when we try to explain them on the most polite way…..we turn out to be the bad guys.LOL

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  • NotAGhostToon

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #14

    Me too michael. i don’t get why people are panicking so much, it could all go wrong, but yet again the whole hype machine is going from one end the good (we’re buying 5 players one of them being a major atacking mid) to the bad (we’re selling anyone and everyone including given, n’zogbia and owen) but the truth always lies somewhere in between, i believe we’ll lose taylor and n’zogbia and some fringe players, we’ll buy about two and the rest will be youngsters and loans, which wouldn’t dissapoint me too much. Realism please lads!

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  • Driver8

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #15

    Partizan, I agree with what you say about the valuation compared with Buffon, but all the same I think 8-11 million is low unless we are just trying to unload him.

    If you are selling one of your best players to raise funds, you need to get enough out of it that you can be confident that the money will significantly improve the squad.

    Like I say above, I could only see this being squandered on the kind of non-entity that 90% of our signings are.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #16

    Spyro

    When we try to explain to them they simply disregard our comments (no matter how logical they seem) as it doesn’t match their gut instinct or what they have been told by someone equally as ignorant. There is only one reality for these people, their reality. I think it is because a large quantity of bloggers on here are youths.

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  • toonfan1

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #17
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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #18

    Driver8

    Think of it this way.

    We have had Given for the majority of his career. Now the only thing that could make the Given signing even better would be to get a large sum of money for him a few years before he retires. In football you have to know when to keep and when to sell. Arsenal didn’t know this with Henry and they only recieved half of what they would have got for him if he would have left just one year earlier.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #19

    By the way post 16 is addressed to Hadj/Partizan.

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  • Partizan

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #20

    Driver…..If you ask me i would looove to sell him for 17-19 mill but that ain’t gonna happen unfortinatelly.

    Our biggest chance is City atm,and if we blow our chance with them for lets say 11-12 mill max,then we gonna end up selling him to Arsenal for 8 mill cos they gonna turn their attention completely to Buffon or even Cech……..you never know with these rich sheiks.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #21

    As painful as it is for me to say, N’Zogbia must now be sold. This media frenzy he has gone on is simply not acceptable and not even i can bury my head in the sand about this anymore. He is clearly engineering a move away and we need to cash in on him now before his value drops.

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  • Driver8

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #22

    Spyro.

    1) Given should have another 6-7 years left at the top level. As a keeper, he is at the peak of his career, so if we are going to cash in on him then 8-12m just does not make sense.

    2) The only relevance of the money is what we would spend it on. If we are confident that it wil be spent well then 12m can make a big difference, but do you really have that much confidence in our current set up?

    Think of it this way, would you take two players of Xisco / Smith standard for Given?

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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #23

    “Think of it this way, would you take two players of Xisco / Smith standard for Given?”

    No, but i would take 5 or 6 players of Gutierrez’ level.

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  • Driver8

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #24

    Partizan, The point is that we are not wanting to sell. It is those clubs who want to buy.

    If City or Arsenal don’t come up with the cash then so what.

    Why continue the Newcastle tradition of buying high and selling low?

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  • Driver8

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #25

    Spyro, Agreed on that. Do you honestly believe that would happen?

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  • Partizan

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #26

    Spyro….Couldn’t agree with you more with your coment 18.

    Like i said in some of the previous posts Spy,we have replacement for him and he’s more than capable to replace him+ we need the money badly for extra players.

    Why would you risk Krul’s future 5-7 years+15-17 mill if he gets sold for Given’s 2 years and then leave for nothing in 2011.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #27

    Driver

    No mate, i dont, lol. However, if we get just two players of Gutierrez’ level then it would be great and that is most definitely possible.

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  • reillers

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #28

    Who, what are we going to get for 10 mill. Nobody good these days costs that, or even around that for that matter.
    I just don’t know if it’s worth it, selling him, we should atleast hold on to him till the summer.
    THere’s all this massive hype about it because of the spectacular preformance he put in against Liverpool. Everyone watching, and there was a lot watching, were amazed, but at the end of the day, he always does it, he’s that good, he always preforms to that level, but people only noticed it last week. But because of that there’s massive hype which I don’t know if it’s a good thing or a bad thing. Good I suppose in that it ups his value and bad if you don’t want him to leave.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #29

    Hadj

    Exactly. Krul should be our priority.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #30

    Reillers

    Do the names Bassong, Gutierrez and Guthrie mean anything to you? 😀

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  • reillers

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #31

    Spyro, we’ve seen Krul play once for us. I really don’t know why some of ye think he’s the next coming. He could be, but it’s based on very little fact.

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  • Partizan

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #32

    Driver….We lost on Luque,Boumsong,Viana etc

    But we’re definetly not losing anything on Given.

    Ok Driver…..name me any top team in the world who has 2 world class goalkeeprs and 1 future world class.

    Real Madrid….NO
    Barca…………..NO
    Milan…………..NO
    Inter……………Maybe
    Juventus………NO
    Man Utd……….NO

    The list goes on and on mate.

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  • Turkish Magpie

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #33

    Why are we going on about Milner?

    ——————–Given—————-

    —Beye——Colo——-Bass—–Enrique

    —Jonas—-Barton—-Guthrie—Nzogbia

    ————–Owen——Martins——–

    where would Milner improve that team he would be cover all the time anyway!

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  • Driver8

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #34

    Spyro, fair enough but I wouldn’t be too confident of that either.

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  • nimo

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #35

    turkish mag im sorry but milner is better then zog

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  • Driver8

    Jan 3, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #36

    Partizan, I never said we were losing money on Given. We didn’t lose money on Waddle, Beardsley, or Gascoigne either, but were they good moves?

    As for having 2 top keepers, as far as I am aware there is every likelihood that Harper will be gone in the summer.

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  • captain darlin

    Jan 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #37

    Getting 12m for milner was great business. Everyone says KK is the most honest man in football and he went in front of the cameras and said it was his decision to sell him so why question him saying he didnt want to sell him. Milner has got no pace, cannot beat a man and couldnt cross a road…… As for Given, as I said before he came out saying he was questioning his future at the toon. He has to be sold, decent keeper but no better than Harps who has served the club longer than Given, never spat his dummy out or looked to jump ship when the club needs there players most.

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  • Toonloony

    Jan 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #38

    Why are you all bothered, Harps would have been Englands number one if he hadn’t spent all the time in Given’s shadow!! He is class, and also loyal to the club, now how many players do we have who you could say that about…….?

    Sell Given, sell Owen, sell N’zogbia and splash out on some more argentinian’s like Gutierez and Colocini!!!

    Howay the lads!!

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  • Terry Mac's Crossword

    Jan 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #39

    IMO Krul is a better keeper than Given was at his age. If Shay does end up leaving I hope that they show some confidence in the kid because he deserves it! The Palermo game (in which he was amazing) aside, he’s earned rave reviews when playing in the SPL for Falkirk, and now for Carlisle. I’ve seen him play for the reserves and U18 side loads of times and he’s always impressed me.

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  • captain darlin

    Jan 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #40

    looney toon – totally agree about about harper, he should be named no.1 now and given sold asap. Not sure about collo tho. Gets taken to the cleaners too often for my liken and is yet to justify the 10m price tags

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