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Kinnear Has No Money From Ashley For January Sales

12:44 pm, Sunday, January 4th, 2009 by Ed Harrison · 182 Comments

Joe Kinnear has talked today to the Sunday Sun about the transfer window, so let’s see what he says so we can better ascertain what our chances are of getting some good players into the club are by four weeks tomorrow, when the transfer window will close.

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Xisco – to be sold in January – but he’s never had a chance?

It seems like one player Kinnear definitely wants to sell is 22 year-old Spanish Under-21 International Xisco, who we are told was brought to Newcastle against Keegan’s wishes, and was just one of the reasons for the volcano that erupted on the last day of the sumer transfer window.

When Xisco has appeared at Newcastle, he’s looked a decent player but hardly worth the £5.7M we are supposed to have paid Deportivo La Coruna for him. It appears that the sale of Xisco is the one that Kinnear hopes will bankroll his first signing with as Newcastle manager.

But whether we can find a buyer for Xisco, who is willing to pay anywhere near £5.7M,  is a good question. Xisco has hardly covered himself in glory at St. James’ Park, since we’ve never played the boy, for one reason. Xisco now looks like on of our bad buys in the summer along with loan signing Ignacio Gonzalez, but only because the Uruguayan got injured.

Joe Kinnear told the Sunday Sun today:

“If we can get back somewhere near what we paid for the player we have in mind then I could go and get another player that I want for £5m,”

“One deal will automatically trigger the next one.?”

“So I’m banging on the door hoping that they (the buying club) will make a decision because the player that I want is wanted by other teams too.”

“The last thing I want is to let someone else get in there before we do.”

The Sunday Sun says that Kinnear is also eager to sell Enrique, after we signed the lad from Villarreal for £6.3m in the summer of 2007.

But we would question the validity of that, because Jose is again starting to play well at left-back and it seems he needs a good few games to get his form back, but he’s now playing quite solidly at left back. He’s good moving forward and has great left foot on him, and we like his attitude because he wants to stay and fight for his place at the club, and that can’t be too bad.

That doesn’t say we mustn’t get in another left-back during January, but he would then have to fight it out with Jose for the left back starting berth.  Joe needs to fill out the squad which will add to the competition for places at Newcastle – and that’s what he’s trying to do, but with up front money not available, it will not be easy.

Kinnear continued:

“I just hope it never comes down to Mike suggesting to me that I sell Shay Given in order to free up funds,” “I’d tell Mike that Shay must stay.”

“Shay is an untouchable as far as I’m concerned. Shay and Michael are untouchable in January and there’s no chance I’d sell.”

Kinnear’s bid to keep Given will be sorely tested if we cannot unload the players we want to sell, like Xisco and Geremi.  That’s especially true if Manchester City come in with a huge bid, and then Mike would be challenged with an important decision to make.

It certainly promises to be a very interesting transfer window for Newcastle – watch this space.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Shay Given · Transfer News and Rumours · Xisco





182 responses so far ↓

  • 1 dingo // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    no comment

  • 2 stormywaters // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:47 PM

    The same article also talks about Jonas & Coloccini maybe also being allowe dto leave to get Joe his £16 million!!
    This has got to be rubbish

  • 3 Bill F (Original) // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM

    Dingo, agreed!!

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  • 5 Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM

    ASHLEY OUT!!!!!! we are doomed to the CC. Writing is on the wall. No funds,no EPL, this bloke Ashley is going to end up with his head kicked in if this is to be right.

  • 6 Legs // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM

    oh xisco, we hardly knew ye,

    This club is going down the shitter.

  • 7 magsie // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:54 PM

    So MA`s idea of moving the club forward in 2009 is to give the manager who has an injury plagued, ,players wanting to leave and an already small squad NO money to spend!!!
    What the Hell is that man on?
    Total Disgrace! If this is true and not a ploy to play the we are poor card in reference to paying over the odds for players, then the bloke cant be sitting foot in St James again in my opinion!!!

  • 8 dickfan // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    God I’m so sick of all this bullshit. I’m not reading anymore newspapers or rumour crap untill the end of the transfer window.

  • 9 toon mad chris // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    sell:
    xisco = 4 mill
    smith = 2 mill /swap with baines
    ameobi = 3 mill
    cacapa = 1 mill
    n’zogbia = about 8 mill

    theres about 18 million.

    buy=
    papa boupa diop = 3 mill
    baines = 4 mill
    parker = 6 mill
    noble =5 mill

    How does that sound?

  • 10 workyticket // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    Dr Ed Harrison, you write that you have a Phd in computing, yet you seem to believe everything that is written in the newspapers. This can’t be right! ;-)

  • 11 geordie jock // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    If this is all true i hope you pro ashley supporters hang your heads in shame. Most fans can see our club is being destroyed at at alarming rate and no decent signings are coming our way. If Ashley does get behind the team and manages to get some decent players in then i will hold my hands up and admit i was wrong but i know this will not happen As i said earlier Ashley, tell the fans the truth

  • 12 simon376 // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    The Xisco thing just shows how right Keegan was.

    Does anybody still think our last bunch of owners were as bad as made out?

  • 13 CLINT FLICK // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    This is in the press-Get a grip, you softies.

  • 14 dickfan // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:59 PM

    What has happened to the supposed £20 million a season?

  • 15 TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM

    mike ashley made his fortune selling cheap tat to the public.
    mike ashley is now trying to sell cheap tat in the form of entertainment to a knowledgeable football public,where will all this lead?do the maths!!!!

  • 16 Dondatta13 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    Either Im stuck in a vortex or its groundhog day.

    Where are the pro Ashley lot now?

    Fattys killed this club

  • 17 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    Xisco derserves a chance at the Toon :)
    He can’t be bad especially when he was brought in along with Jonas and Coloccini.

    As for Toon Mad Chris – Get realistic!!!
    Noble for 5m?! Maybe 15 at the best baring in mind West Ham’s financial crisis!

    And Parker won’t come back, thats for sure..

  • 18 AndyNUFC // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    If we even get 4mill back for Xisco we’ll be laughing. It’s all very well saying he’s young and hasn’t had a fair chance, but we need players who are going to make an impact now, not in the future. We are in a relegation fight.

    For me, 4mill back on an unnecesary striker, which can be spent on a really quality player (Bassong for 2mill, Jonas for 3mill, anyone?) will help us on the pitch.

  • 19 Shay=God amongst men // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    Where is the money from Milner’s sale? We were supposed to get shweinsteiger after he left, but he didn’t want to come to us, that led us to getting Nacho. But where the hell is the 10-12 million for Milners departure??!!??!!

  • 20 Cyprus-Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Why is it we talk about selling our players for £3, £4 or £5m when other clubs like the Wet Spams say Upson is valued at £15m?? why is that… why do other clubs nearly always get our players on the cheap?? is it because we’re that desperate to sell them, we’ll except what ever they offer, the likes of Shay Given, amounts of £8-£10m are being splashed all over the crap-loids… if he’s one of the best goalies in the EPL, which he is, then imo think he’s worth double that, I mean look at the competition:

    Gordon £9m
    Cech – £20m
    Buffon – £30m
    James – £10m
    Jaskalinen – £7m
    Reina – £15m
    Schwarzer – £5m
    Van der Sar – £5m
    Shay – £15 easily :)

  • 21 beyethegreat // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    reillers

    Beyethegreat, they didn’t really talk Given up either, not till the statment, they don’t really seem to have a clue about here.
    But I don’t think Kinnear is that impressed with Harper, the way he’s going hell bent to keep Given, the way he’s saying he’s the best keeper in the Prem by a mile..etc. It’s got me thinking he doesn’t rate him much.

    well he is the best imo ut yeah it does show a little lack of faith

    or it could be that he is worried harper wont sign a new contract

  • 22 Jezza // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM

    The situation is even worse than that. Kinnear is not under orders to sell in order to buy new players. He has to sell to raise cash that will not be re-invested in new players. Ashley has turned Newcastle United into a selling club. That all became abundantly clear when he cashed in on James Milner despite the then manager’s desperation to keep the player at all costs. It was further emphasisied when he refused to make Milner’s transfer fee available for new players.

    In this transfer window, NUFC will sell the likes of Given, N’Zogbia and Taylor for £15-£20 million and in return will spend a mere £5-£6 million on a couple of duffers from Scotland or the Championship, along with maybe another untried 17 year old and a couple of crocks on loan. That is the harsh reality of Ashley’s vision of “driving the club forward in 2009″.

  • 23 workyticket // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    “Does anybody still think our last bunch of owners were as bad as made out?”

    Er, yes Simon. They were an absolute disaster!

  • 24 Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    NUFC need a MIRACLE. i think i now agree with one of the bloggers on here….(fans should own the club)

  • 25 Ericles // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    I think Joe has lost the plot. He is just a front man to the sabotaging southern mafia that are destroying NUFC. Get rid of the lot!!!!

  • 26 beyethegreat // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    andyglostoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:51

    one manager i really like neil warnock just said on setanta that he believe’s shay’s just crying out for help to ashley for more players,warnock also said that 50k fans a week deserve more than they getting a the moment!

    when did he say this and what channel

  • 27 raghav // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    ashley knows we cant win anything in premiership so he wants to go down a division & win championship later,assley is a genious.i hope he has a major accident,which should stop him from spending on his parties rather then investing on the team

  • 28 beyethegreat // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    soz andy lol i missed the setanta part lol

  • 29 Dan157 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Just by reading Kinnear’s comments you can tell that just like every transfer window we at best are going to bring one in, ship one out. It is simply rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. We need to fill out the squad. What is the point of swapping 1 left back with another, selling Nzogbia so we can bu a CM but not replace him and leave us short somewhere else. Ashley is running this club like a fruit and Veg stall.

  • 30 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    When we sign our first player all nerves will cool.
    As long as its a decent player who wants to fight for the club that is…

    If Kinnear hasn’t been given money I am a raging bull and will be very annoyed.
    But as I’ve said he surely has been given some, especially when he’s making enquiries about players and especially when Ashley can blow 5m on some entertainment on the town?

  • 31 AndyNUFC // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Jezza, selling Given, Zog and Taylor would get us 30mill atleast, which could be used to buy atleast 5 players, or more baragin finds like Bassong.

  • 32 craig chisholm // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    clint flick………..how can this be the press when they are jfk’s own words man??? these are words from kinnears gob. ashley again has made no money available. ashley is trying to destroy us on purpose as far as i can see. i dont know why he would do this but he obviously is, there is no question about it. i want to know where all the pro ashley twats are these days. i have been argueing with them for donkeys telling them ashley is a twat but all the bum boys were always sticking up for him. i think ashley is scum and i hate is face and every stinking breathe that comes out his fat lying mouth.
    i will predict something else….jfk will walk in this window and we will be managerless for the rest of the season as its impossible wise could come in as i would personally try to get to him and kick his teeth in. jfk is now starting to see the man that ashley is, he has no loyalty and does not tell the truth. he said himself just last week that he would give jfk some funds, he said funds were available, now they are not, we have to sell to buy – lets be honest, who is going to buy our dross players for anything other than peanuts. the only players we can sell are the ones we need. i can see given defo going this window, regardless of what are pathetic manager says. wise will be doing the deal this week i expect and then tell jfk about it afterwards. i hope ashley understands whats going to kick off very soon. he thought last time was a bit hostile, ha ha.

  • 33 TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    mike ashley is a greedy and unrealistic man,as freddie shepherd once said;”we pay rolls royce wages,we want rolls royce performances”.
    on the flip side mike ashley wants rolls royce performances from skoda,s.

  • 34 beyethegreat // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 13:11

    NUFC need a MIRACLE. i think i now agree with one of the bloggers on here….(fans should own the club)

    i agree

  • 35 Dan157 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Toon1978

    When you consider some of the owners an managers we’ve had it’s a miracle we are still in the league.

  • 36 Little Willie // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:17 PM

    simon376 // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:58

    The Xisco thing just shows how right Keegan was.

    ———-

    How?

    Don’t forget Keegan met Xisco when he came to the club for a look around and told him his plans for moving the club forward.

    Xisco’s problem is down to shocking man management bu Kinnear more than anything as far as I’m concerned.

  • 37 craig chisholm // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:17 PM

    andynufc…………given, zog and taylor give us 30 million?? what you on mate, you know its only early on the sabbeth dont you. given – 9 million, taylor – 5 mill and zogs 6 million tops. thats about 19 million max for those three.

  • 38 Cyprus-Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    I want to know when I post anything that’s against Ashley/Newcastle it gets posted on her but if I write anything pro-Ashley, it doesn’t get posted… why is that Ed????

  • 39 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Maybe but we will buy someone and I still believe Kinnear has been given some funds.

    Hope he has!
    Otherwise Ashley’s a pure bread wan**er
    I’m going to remain optimistic unlike most :)

  • 40 AndyNUFC // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Think about it mate, Man City just bought a second choice left back for 12mill, so if we sell to them we can get 20mill for Given easy. Zog will go for around 6mill, and when you think about how Milner was 12mill because he’s English, Taylor will go for 8mill.

  • 41 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    Taylor won’t be leaving and the frigging last thing we can afford to do is sell!!
    We are thread thin now on players and If Kinnear has to sell to raise cash for players then Ashley really has to pack his bags and get of Toon

  • 42 sirjasontoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:24 PM

    Arranging Chairs on the titanic excellent : )

  • 43 C'est moi // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:24 PM

    Interested in Leroy Lita apparently

  • 44 Leo // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:25 PM

    if its true that we have to sell before we buy i will not be renewing my ST again until the fat man is gone, ive had these tickets for 15 nearly years

  • 45 sirjasontoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:26 PM

    If we get spanked off west ham then the place is gonna explode again I think.

  • 46 AndyNUFC // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    The last thing we can afford to do is sell? Sounds weird put that way haha.

    Anyway, 20mill for 3 players would buy us 10 Bassongs, STOP SHOUTING FOR EXPENSIVE BUYS!

  • 47 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Fair play Leo! A proper fan :)

    Intersted in Leroy Lita? Because he’s going to be sold for under a million is it?!

  • 48 Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    I know that Barcelona is run by its fans as are a few other clubs. Ashley wants a lot of money for NUFC because of his greed. Can the fans raise that amount of cash….i’m not so sure but i’m all for it if we could. I haven’t got two pennies to rub together lol so i wouldn’t be much of a help hehehehe but we need some rich Geordie’s and alot of fans to chip in. Unfortunately its a bit of a pipe dream but if it did happen it would drive the club forward.

  • 49 simon376 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    Aprt from the last 3 – 4 years, under the last owners, we played entertaining football and wee up the right end of the league and the means more cash generated.

    As for Xisco, the coaches dont think he cuts it, they see him more than us. We would be lucky to get £3 million for him now. He was brought in to try and keep the fans happy after the lack of action in the last market. We have somebody in charge of scouting who really doesnt have much of an idea when it comes to the buisness end of football.

  • 50 eaststander // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    We can’t blame any of our players for wanting to leave. This has to be the most unstable football clubs ever right now mike ashley has single handedly f**ked our great football club and if u can’t see that and just keep burying your heads in the sand, looking for all the best of a bad situation then just keep watching as our club falls to bits.

  • 51 sirjasontoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:29 PM

    The prospect of Leroy Lita returning to Norfolk seemed further away than ever this morning, as the News of the World linked the Reading hitman with Newcastle and Everton.

    Lita – who played the full 90 minutes of the Royals’ FA Cup defeat to Cardiff yesterday – has reportedly attracted the interest of the Premier League duo due to his £350,000 price tag.

    The 24-year-old striker scored seven times in sixteen appearances for the Canaries.

  • 52 Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    Doocey

    I think Lita’s is valued at just over three quarters of a million mate.

  • 53 sirjasontoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:31 PM

    We could buy Lita and freeze owens wages for 3 weeks then it would be like a freebie : )

  • 54 AndyNUFC // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:32 PM

    3mill for Xisco and 350,000 for Lita is FANTASTIC business, but fans would just see it as Ashley being ‘tight’. Morons, if they were in his shoes they’d see the benefits of it.

  • 55 JonnyNUFC // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    Why are we letting players go atall ffs

    Facts are once again looking like ASHLEY WILL NOT INVEST IN US.

    None of you can possibly support an owner who will not even risk some of his own money in improving the squad. The guys an idiot who thinks its all going to magically happen without any form of investment from him, hes no idea wtf hes doing.

    He wants to follow the Arsenal model when we have a manager who doesnt give a chance to the youngsters. When we have a team full of very average players who these youngsters will learn absolutely nothing on bar a few – most of whom are leaving probably.

    How in the fck are we ANYTHING like Arsenal. The mans a CLOWN.

  • 56 sirjasontoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    Like the man said buy skoda’s expect skoda performance…Won’t get him anyway as Everton are interested.

  • 57 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    Tom1978 I did say under a million :D

  • 58 TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:35 PM

    if we were to sign leroy,words like couldn,t,hit and barn door come to mind lita.
    this would speak volumes of jabba the hutt,s intentions for this football club.

  • 59 Ross // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:35 PM

    This article doesnt actually say the kinnear isnt getting a penny from Ashley. Along with that its in a sunday paper. Can you really take this seriously after some of the things you’ve read about us at breakfast on a sunday mornin.

    Trust me, i wouldnt be surprised if big ash wasnt willing to give kinnear a single dime like, but i’d rather be optomistic than jump and beleive what i read on sunday’s back pages, because thats exactly what they want! to make fools out of the north east man!

    As far as selling xisco and enrique, should either, or both take place i’ll be pretty disheartened. We’ve seen xisco for about 10 minutes and Enrique is improving.

    Alot of people seem to be banging on about “we sell this player that player we get X amount and we can go buy him him and him”. End of the day, deals take time. Maybe not for other clubs, but we dont seem to be one of the quickest. We sell off our better players for decent cash, we then have to go and move quickly, to find adequate replacements, at decent prices. Which to be honest, i cant see us doing. I could see us selling off our canny players (given, owen, enrique, geremi), being left with a decent amount of cash…realising no one actually wants to come to us, being even shorter of numbers, up sh!t creek, and never actually seeing that “transfer” cash again.

  • 60 AndyNUFC // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:36 PM

    Jonny to follow te Arsenal model, first and foremost we need to steady things out for the first team, then invest in the youth team and scouting network.

    Selling players for big money then bringing in talent for cheap basically is the Arsenal model, and selling 3 players like Given, Taylor and Zog for 20mill + and bringing in 10 Bassongs is business certainly worth doing.

  • 61 Little Willie // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:37 PM

    simon376 // Jan 4, 2009 at 13:28

    Aprt from the last 3 – 4 years, under the last owners, we played entertaining football and wee up the right end of the league and the means more cash generated.

    As for Xisco, the coaches dont think he cuts it, they see him more than us. We would be lucky to get £3 million for him now. He was brought in to try and keep the fans happy after the lack of action in the last market. We have somebody in charge of scouting who really doesnt have much of an idea when it comes to the buisness end of football.

    ——–

    We had 3 good years under Sir Bobby out of 10 more like, ten he was sacked and replaced with Sounes. Hardly good times.

    As for Xisco, maybe he is rubbish but do you honestly trust Kinnear to say how good he is or not? I think his treatment has been awful and the fact that Joe won’t even acknowledge him as one of our strikers says it’s than him being a poor player, especially when he didn’t even get a run out yesterday when Carroll was useless.

    Unless a player has zero ability then I’m not sure how someone can write him off so quickly, the lads got pedigree yet Kinnear prefers Carroll and Shola?? I’m not buying that.

    Mascherano is a prime example of how some foreign players merely need to be shown some faith in their ability by their managers rather than be shown the could shoulder with little explanation for it. Five games or so in 6 months for West Ham under Pardew/Curbishley saw Mascherano labelled as a flop, unable to adjust to Premiership football, too weak/small for it, etc etc – as soon as he moves to Liverpool, it took only one game playing for a high calibre manager for us to suddenly see that Mascherano was in fact a fantastic defensive midfielder and was indeed well suited to Premiership football.

    Maybe it’s not always the player who fails to adapt, but the manager who fails to do his job with respect to that player? Then again maybe Xisco is sh*t, but I certainly don’t trust Joe Kinnear when it comes to seeing talent that might not be obvious to him because he has no track record of it.

  • 62 toonbirchy // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:37 PM

    buy matt derbyshire and ryan taylor

    two hurngry players that would be great for us

  • 63 sirjasontoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM

    Bit like the Milner money then Ross?

  • 64 Alex // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM

    we could try and do a swap deal , Smith for Lita at least lita gets a couple of goals a season :)

  • 65 TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:41 PM

    jonny nufc,spot on ashley does not have a scooby doo about football,if you notice he only ever opens his mouth when we get a couple of results eg; joe,s my hero etc.
    the funny thing is though the more results we get this silly greedy man seems to think there,s no need to invest.
    mike ashley needs a dose of football reality,instead of thinking it is roy of the rovers.

  • 66 Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:41 PM

    The thing with Arsenal is that they bring players into the first team as well as bringing in for the future. Ashley is not doing that he is only bringing in for the future. But what is his intentions…is he bringing these kids in to try and make them into superstars only to sell them at a massive profit for himself,judging by what we have seen of him so far that may be his intentions.

  • 67 sirjasontoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM

    Here is a post I done on 606 in April 2008

    Is Ashley the New Steptoe ?
    Newcastle United
    by sirjasontoon (U9231784) 20 April 2008

    I mentioned ages ago that ashley and mort are not the sugar daddy’s that they claimed to be and are very very tight when it comes to investing in serious talent. Look at the last window not one proper senior signing of any merit and too tight to buy Giles Barnes for peanuts from Derby when he was on a plate.

    A few weeks ago Keegan was spouting off about Henry and how he wants to break a club signing record etc now he is saying we will attract no big names in the summer and mort saying no big names will arrive…my theory is this is preparing us gently for steptoe style summer..any old iron etc

    After what can only be described as a shocking season apart from a couple of wins recently(against poor opposition)the fans deserve to see the hard earned money they pour into the club invested in some big names..otherwise it will be plain to see that Ashley is using the club to just milk the fans..and serve up mid table nonsense for another season.

  • 68 Little Willie // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:46 PM

    sirjasontoon – you lose any credibility you had by admitting you post on the 606 boards.

    I stopped reading there.

  • 69 beyethegreat // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:46 PM

    toon 1978

    I know that Barcelona is run by its fans as are a few other clubs. Ashley wants a lot of money for NUFC because of his greed. Can the fans raise that amount of cash….i’m not so sure but i’m all for it if we could. I haven’t got two pennies to rub together lol so i wouldn’t be much of a help hehehehe but we need some rich Geordie’s and alot of fans to chip in. Unfortunately its a bit of a pipe dream but if it did happen it would drive the club forward

    i agree we should own the club

    it is unlikely and the campaign seems to have hit a rock

    here is a link

    http://www.savenewcastle.com/index.html

  • 70 Spyro // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Little Willie

    “Unless a player has zero ability then I’m not sure how someone can write him off so quickly, the lads got pedigree yet Kinnear prefers Carroll and Shola?? I’m not buying that.”

    Exactly. Xisco has already shown enough to suggest he is far superior to Andy Carroll. What does Carroll offer exactly? He is supposed to be our tall, hold up striker, yet he wins absolutely nothing in the air.

    The reason for JK’s complete disregard of Xisco is purely financial. He doesn’t want him to play and do well as fans would not then warrant his sale. Also, if he plays he could get injured and jeopordise his January move.

  • 71 wigaz // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    I’m so sick of this! Mike Ashley is a god dam disgrace! If i was a rich geordie i would be looking to get together a consortium of peopl together maybe famous geordies like: Ant & Dec etc together to buy the club back off this Fat Cockney waste of space! Get in a decent manager who has some pull like Sven or Van Haall & give them a pot to rebuild. We dont deserve to be screwed by this Arsehole anymore. I dont give a crap if he paid off any debt! Man U & Chelsea are £500m in debt who would you rather watch? the only way to make money from a football team is to invest the team! shit sales, tv money sponsership deals etc! If Mr Ashley is such a good business man how can he not see that? I hate to say it but if we dont buy in Jan I can see us going down. My only hope is that if we do he sells & leaves then we rebuild form there, i’d rather see us in the prem still obviously but with everyday that passes it seems to get worse & worse. You may disagree but i’d sooner have shepard back than have to put up with this crap anymore. We cannot allow ourselves to be fooled by Ashley anymore! i say if he doesn’t give Joe any cash in Jan we give the Fat Knacka hell on earth! he thinks the KK thing was bad this will be worse, total boycott! nobody go to the games! not until he sells. I know a lot of us paid good money for our season tickets but look at the bigger picture, we need this man gone he is a cancer on our beloved club.

  • 72 StevieA // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:49 PM

    Leroy Lita is a good striker. I think he would thrive at Newcastle.

    Reminds me of a young Andy Cole. Why people say he can’t hit a barn door I will never know, also he is only 24 so once he finds the right club and is appreciated he will soon come good and hit form.

  • 73 Spyro // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:51 PM

    Lita is another striker that could have been good, but his attitude held him back. Do we really want players like that?

  • 74 workyticket // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:53 PM

    “We dont deserve to be screwed by this Arsehole anymore.”

    How can you be screwed by an arsehole Wigaz? LOL!

  • 75 simon376 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Why do people talk so highly of Xisco? I know he hasn’t been given a chance, but what have people seen in him?

  • 76 sirjasontoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:55 PM

    Thanks for the advice Little Willie I have not posted on 606 in well over a year so can you please have my credibility back please.

  • 77 wigaz // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:56 PM

    Ha ha nice worky! was typing in rage i also meant to say shirt sales not shit sales! lol! to end the statement ASHLEY OUT!!!!!

  • 78 Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    Spyro

    I had a glance through it mate, it looks good i will have to have a proper read through later when its a little quieter in here lol but i’m all for it because we are going no where with our present owner.

  • 79 sirjasontoon™ // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM

    ?can I have my credibility back ?stoopid keyboard

  • 80 Spyro // Jan 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM

    Can someone please explain what is so wrong with 606.

    Simon376

    I have seen little of Xisco, same as you. However, from what i have seen he has the movement and reactions of a striker, but a bad first touch. A first touch can be improved and i am sure Xisco would have improved with confidence, he is only a youngster remember. Carroll is a youngster as well, but i fail to see what he is actually good at. I don’t know what we plan to build on if we continue with him.

  • 81 workyticket // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:00 PM

    Aye Wigaz, brought a horrible image into me heed that one. Thanks for that ;-)

  • 82 Spyro // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM

    Toon1978

    Wrong person mate.

  • 83 TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    did anyone see the under 21 tournament a couple of years back,lita was being sent death threats for his lack of goal scoring prowess.

  • 84 Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:03 PM

    Sorry Spyro i meant beyethegreat my apologies lol.

  • 85 Dondatta13 // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:05 PM

    AndyNUFC, agreed mate, Given IS the best keeper in the league, if Man City can pay £12m for Bridge Given is easy money at £18m.

    How much did E.T (David James) go for?

    I think Cyprus Toon (comment 20 made alot of sence).

    ______________________________________

    Dan157 // Jan 4, 2009 at 13:16

    Toon1978

    When you consider some of the owners an managers we’ve had it’s a miracle we are still in the league.

    Yes mate, the miracle is called SHAY GIVEN ;)

  • 86 beyethegreat // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    toon1978

    mate i would defo invest something it is unlikely as i doubt many people would be interested but if we could do it it would be amazing

    we could finally have stability

    imagine what that would be like

  • 87 TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    harold steptoe is a choir boy compared to ashley,ashley,s reign is starting to mirror the bad old days of mckeag and co.

  • 88 sirjasontoon™ // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    Rags old iron rags old iron
    All he was buying was just rags and old iron
    For those big empty promises you used to make
    For those memories of you that are no longer sweet
    I wish he could haul them off down the street

    Maybe Mike could be the new Nina Simone sounds very similar.

  • 89 Dondatta13 // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM

    Spyro // Jan 4, 2009 at 13:48

    Exactly. Xisco has already shown enough to suggest he is far superior to Andy Carroll. What does Carroll offer exactly? He is supposed to be our tall, hold up striker, yet he wins absolutely nothing in the air.

    Ummm, He won a penalty against Liverpool in the air.

  • 90 Spyro // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:14 PM

    Dondatta

    You and i both know that was a ridiculous decision and the penalty was completely underserved.

    Anyway, it was against Wigan.

  • 91 Marty-TOON RISING // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:15 PM

    Why do people on here want PARKER back,he is just another sick note.
    He never really commanded the middle of the park.
    No thank you i say

  • 92 simon376 // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:16 PM

    What I have seen of Xisco has been terrible, I think he looks toatl rubbish and wouldnt have got past a trial if he had had one. For his sake I hope he gets a move back to spain where he might do ok.

    Is anybody watching our old full backs team on ITV?

  • 93 sirjasontoon™ // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:17 PM

    Parker=Ballerina

    And bottled challenges….spins like a fairy.

  • 94 TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:19 PM

    some songs that remind me of our great leader=
    YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON.
    DAY DREAM BELIEVER.
    PUPPET ON A STRING.
    FUN FUN FUN.
    SEVEN DRUNKEN NIGHTS.
    SWEET TALKING GUY.
    HOW CAN I BE SURE.
    LISTEN TO WHAT THE MAN SAID.
    SO YOU WIN AGAIN.
    CANT GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE.
    WITHOUT YOU.

  • 95 AndyNUFC // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:21 PM

    Was it against Charlton (one of his last games I think) where he literally span on the ball like 2 or 3 times? I think that was the point where people’s frustration just kicked in and we started to see more cons to pros with Parker.

    Sometimes you need more than a couple hard tackles a game, (unless your name is Cattermole).

  • 96 Sav // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:24 PM

    Lita isn’t the kind of forward we need. We’ve already got Oba and Owen who are relatively lightweight and don’t contribute greatly when we don’t have possession.

    Why doesn’t Joe just shut his gob. There’s nothing so unsettling as the man at the top (kind of) spouting contradictory statements every few days. Small wonder Shay and Zog are unsettled. Like the fans, they’re probably wondering wtf is going on.
    Weren’t we getting 12 million only a week or so ago? Its supposed to be Wise’s hands, but Joe knows what we’ve bid? 3 fringe players for 16 million? Joe said he has the final word on transfers, but clearly he has very little influence – he’s still ‘hoping FatAsh doesn’t suggest he sell Shay Given’. Obviously a suggestion from the fat man is a dictat in stone to JFK.

    Mind, there’s some nutters on here as well.
    Yes, Bassong was a bargain. But how many undiscovered gems have we discovered through years of trying to sort out our defence? Yet some here reckon we should just go out and buy a whole team full of 2 million players…I give up!

    Some want to wait until after the transfer window to see if Ashley will finally deliver on promises. Your protests then will be too late. Kinnear has said we intend to raise 16 million through transfers out. That is rubbish. He has stated we are after Barry Ferguson. Not good enough. Better to protest like hell now. If we’re all wrong, we’ll say we’re very sorry and he’s a great guy, afterwards. But we’ll still be in the EPL.

  • 97 Dondatta13 // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:27 PM

    Spyro, Wigan, my bad

    But that was a deffo pen man, he got punched clean on the temple.

    I couldnt imagine Xisco going for a ball like that in a million years.

  • 98 Stuart // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:32 PM

    Mr Pound Land is a complete and utter wan*er!!!

    I believe we should wait until Feb 2nd and when we have had no positive transfers into the club but some of our good players have left we should start the demo’s up again!

    Ashley thinks he’s ridden the storm! We need to show him he hasn’t and we won’t stand for our club to treated like a toy that he has got fed up off!

  • 99 Tom_Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:32 PM

    I’d definitely buy Lita, sort his attitude out and you got a player.

    350k too.

    We need a player with pace to stretch defenses, only Martins can do this.

    Lita and Martins are not at all lightweight either.

  • 100 Spyro // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM

    Dondatta

    Xisco probably wouldn’t, but is that what Carroll offers then?

    Do you honestly feel Carroll wins the ball in the air enough for someone of his size?

  • 101 Sav // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM

    ….relatively, they are.

    All three of them are under 5’8″, TomToon.
    That’s not heavyweight.

  • 102 Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:41 PM

    Our team for next MONTH lads…

    ………………………….Harper………………………..

    Taylor……..Collo……………Bassong…..Enrique

    Jonas………….Fergusen…….Guthrie…….Duff

    ………………….Martins………..Smith…………..

    Money made off Xisco,N’Zogbia,Given,Owen,Barton,Carol will go in the pocket of Ashley. Leaving us with a subs bench like this…

    KRUL
    AMEOBI
    EDGAR
    LUA LUA
    BUTT

    Bit negative but a possibility.

  • 103 Rich // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    20 million per season would be enough but it doesnt look like thats going to happen.

  • 104 beyethegreat // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 14:19

    some songs that remind me of our great leader=
    YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON.
    DAY DREAM BELIEVER.
    PUPPET ON A STRING.
    FUN FUN FUN.
    SEVEN DRUNKEN NIGHTS.
    SWEET TALKING GUY.
    HOW CAN I BE SURE.
    LISTEN TO WHAT THE MAN SAID.
    SO YOU WIN AGAIN.
    CANT GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE.
    WITHOUT YOU.

    what about

    MONEY MONEY MONEY
    THE BLOBBY SONG
    BAD
    99 PROBLEMS
    MO’MONEY MO’ PROBLEMMS
    tears of a clown
    hungry eyes
    7 things i hate the most about you
    toxic
    oops i did it again
    hit me baby 1 more time

    but if i could pick a song for the toon army it would be

    dreams can come true

  • 105 Rich // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:54 PM

    and where is the milner money?!

  • 106 wsq // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:56 PM

    ashley out *yawns*

  • 107 Estechco // Jan 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM

    You don’t suppose Xisco only came to toon because his brother (and agent) are a certain Tony Jiminez do you? I had trouble believing it too, but try googling “xisco jiminez brother agent” if you want to see the sh*t we’re in

  • 108 Stuart // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    How long do you think it will be until Mike ‘Pound Land’ Ashley decides to sell Bassong?

    He’s already our player of the season and our best defender.

    I don’t think it’ll be long until someone comes sniffing round him.

    He will probably start to think himself ‘do I really want to play at a basket case club when I could play for a team with ambition.

    Our only has about as ambition the size of a midgets di*k!

  • 109 Spyro // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    Estechco

    It is not the same Jimenez.

  • 110 The Entertainers // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    I’m not sure what i’m missing.

    Did the article state Kinnear was getting no money?

    I accept that Ashely has asked certain players to be moved on, but nearly every other article on this site has up to 6 players leaving and 6 coming in !

    Once again i think its worth while waiting until Feb’ and then congratulating or condeming Ashley!

  • 111 Sav // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM

    They should put in a cheeky bid for Micah Richards while he’s having a ad patch. Citeh are being linked with so many players, they probably wouldn’t even miss him.

  • 112 Tom_Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:05 PM

    SAv – Are you that ignorant to suggest that taller people are stronger?!?!! If you are then you are an idiot.

    As for Richards, we dont need another vastly overrated English defender, we already have one who is just as bad.

  • 113 joe-newcastle-fan // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM

    im sure the lita story is just tabloid rubbish but i really hope its true, ive wanted him along side martins at toon since he was unsettled at reading. And if the bargain price is to be believed surely even tight man ashley can be convinced to raise enough to bring him in.

  • 114 GEORDIE69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:08 PM

    Citeh fans have been slaughtering Richards not many rate him at all! I personally think he is a great defender!

  • 115 Sav // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:13 PM

    Yeah, I guess I must be, Tom Toon. But thankfully there’s usually some smartarse around to keep me well- informed.
    …Thanks.

  • 116 Dondatta13 // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM

    Spyro between Carroll and Xisco, Id side with Carroll every time. Id rather someone willing to risk injury to them self for the sake of the team than a pull out of a challenge contintental type.

  • 117 TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM

    nice one beye.

  • 118 beyethegreat // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM

    THANK U TROJAN

  • 119 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM

    When are you lot going to learn.

    Do not believe anything in the papers about targets. Especially sundaysun.

    We won’t be signing any dream targets like adriano ETC. ETC

    It’s only the 4th Jan for god sake and you are shouting ashley out JFK out.

    Wait till the 2nd feb and you might be pleasantly suprised.

    Trust me!

  • 120 wsq // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:39 PM

    ashley out even before the window started. ashley out since keegan walked out

    i will always be ashley out!

    :)

    and kinnear out

  • 121 TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:39 PM

    waddles mullet,it,s extremely difficult to be optimistic when the keystone cops are running the circus up the road.
    we will have to change the name of the stadium from st james’ to billy smarts.

  • 122 wsq // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM

    even if we get cristiano ronaldo plus messi plus torres plus villa plus silva plus aguero i will still say

    ASHLEY OUT!
    KINNEAR OUT!

  • 123 Sav // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM

    Why is it impossible to believe people who finish up by saying ‘Trust me!’?

  • 124 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM

    wsq

    Do you actually go the games.

    maggie thatcher the milk snatcher!!

  • 125 Sav // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:42 PM

    I never believe people who finish up with ‘Trust me!’

  • 126 Sav // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:43 PM

    Sorry, Waddle’s Mullet, but I can’t believe people who finish up with ‘Trust me!’

  • 127 micepie // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:44 PM

    Okay, well at least JK is clear about some of the players he likes and dislikes.

    I don’t know…..if I were manager right now I’d be thinking about bringing in, say, 2 loan players and not selling anyone! Aside from which, it could well be that over time Xisco – and even Gonzales (once fit) – could both become successes for us. If JK gave them belief and faith. Then bring on the youngsters a little more, give them a few minutes here and there, and along with 2 loan signings (1 mf/1 dfd) and we could be alright. Rather than chop and change a lot. It all depends how well we do in buying in January, but it would help if JK has several targets in mind for each position, not just one.

  • 128 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:45 PM

    All i can say is…………………………………………………..Taiwo

    Up the poll tax!

  • 129 wsq // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:49 PM

    wt f wt f _|_ you waddle

  • 130 craig chisholm // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    waddles mullet………..you must be a maken or have been living on another planet since that shithead ashley bought us out. you say ‘when will you lot ever learn’? thats the whole point man, we have learned regarding ashley and his lies, three windows of shit, overall investment on the pitch of net 2 million. yes mate, we have learned, ashey is a wanker and will never invest. there is no need to wait until feb 02nd to know that man. we all know this already. i will tell you what we are gonig to do, try to sell the dross, no-one will buy then, we will sell on shay and zogs and prob anyone else who might fetch a few quid, then we will buy maybe four of five players outlaying less than half what he made on what he has sold, with ashley pocketing the rest – you think i am wrong to pre-judge – watch this space man.

  • 131 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM

    wsq

    I take that as a NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO then.

    But you can say and spout off whatever you like
    that the beauty of this blog.

    good luck in your quest of ashley out.

  • 132 Tom_Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    Mullet – Do you know something we dont?

  • 133 ObaMartins // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM

    Listen people Quit whining you saw what Ashley and Co did to Kev Keegan and you wanted to Give Ashley another chance…welcome Championship

  • 134 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM

    Been told something

    but hey wait till the 2nd of feb and give me a bashing.

    until then who knows could be bull.

    hope not though!!

  • 135 wsq // Jan 4, 2009 at 4:04 PM

    ASHLEY OUT!

  • 136 murphy // Jan 4, 2009 at 4:04 PM

    If we don’t improve our squad in this transfer window then F|*$k fat Ashley. I’ve stood by him long enough thinking he way well dig deep and invest our get Owen on another contract but what do we have?! a bargain basement manager with no funds having to work with nearly a whole team who are unsettled and wishing they’d be allowed to leave. If given goes then so do I, I’ll start supporting cardiff city.

    Ohhh and if he doesn’t invest at least 10 million (A certian James millner comes to mind) I’ll jump on a bus from Wales and come and help protest!

  • 137 bill // Jan 4, 2009 at 4:08 PM

    It looks as though some of you guys are waking up, though some are still slumbering on with blindfolds intact.

    Ashley, will run our club into the ground. He is asset stripping the club.

    I cannot believe how some people are still siding with him considering what has gone on to date. Having said that I also think we have some agent’s provocateurs in our midst.

  • 138 Tom_Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Mullet – Summarise to me what you have been told. Is it about Taiwo in particular?

  • 139 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 4:45 PM

    murphy // Jan 4, 2009 at 16:04

    If we don’t improve our squad in this transfer window then F|*$k fat Ashley. I’ve stood by him long enough thinking he way well dig deep and invest our get Owen on another contract but what do we have?! a bargain basement manager with no funds having to work with nearly a whole team who are unsettled and wishing they’d be allowed to leave. If given goes then so do I, I’ll start supporting cardiff city.

    Ohhh and if he doesn’t invest at least 10 million (A certian James millner comes to mind) I’ll jump on a bus from Wales and come and help protest!

    I agree mate!

    Howver I still think Kinnear has funds at his disposal, as an early blog entry it had said Kinnear had made enquiries about 4 or 5 lads.
    Now do you do that without anything to back it up, like transfer cash?
    He HAS to have some when he’s looking to players. However when i see loan signings being rejected I do start to wonder.

    Going to remain optimistic that he has money and we’l sign someone very soon of decent quality :)

  • 140 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 4:48 PM

    And Mullet please don’t talk rubbish :)

    If you actually know something can you tell us please? We need all the hope we can get :)

  • 141 murphy // Jan 4, 2009 at 4:59 PM

    yeh it’s up and down with joe! one minute he’s making out we have a fair amount to spend and that no players will be leaving and the next he’s saying he’ll sell 3 for 16 million!!!! we’ve just got to wait and see, perhaps he’s just playing the press to keep people of his scent, and that there’s a few in the pipeline. Ohhh yeah didn’t he say he had a few irons in the fire? surely that means we’ve putting in bids! jesus, why is nothing simple when it comes down to nufc.

  • 142 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:02 PM

    Exactly, its too complicated at Newcastle always! I have faith in Kinnear as he’s Irish :D however now Rangers said they’ve had no approach from anyone for Ferguson!
    Would that be, because Kinnear ha=s been told the piggy bank is empty?!
    Hopefully not.
    Mullet, you still there ;)?

  • 143 heavyhitters // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:04 PM

    Some Deportivo fans laughed when we bought Xisco and commented that he was the second worst player in their League. It would be nice to see many players off loaded this month. If Taylor is so great surely some of the big four will be ready to lash out 8-10 million on him. I would like to see the back of Nzogbia too, not the player he thinks he is imo. Of late theres only Bassong and Guiterrez whos impressed me, Given goes without saying. As far as who should leave well I’d end up with writers cramp. We are pretty much going to have to start from scratch, Cacapa, Geremi, Smith, Butt, Enrique, Ameobi, Duff, Xisco and dare I say it Taylor arent the answer if we want to make a dent on European places.

  • 144 Estechco // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Spyro

    Have you seen this page (amongst many others)…

    http://www.deportivo-la-coruna.com/squad/xisco.html

    It would seem an awfully big coincidence if not the same Tony Jimenez!?!

  • 145 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:07 PM

    Dent in European places?
    We’re not going to be challenging for Europe my son, not this season, not next!
    Get realisitic, we have to survive a relegation scare yet again this season and unless there are major changes towards the end of this season it will remain the same old, same old as much as I hate saying it :(

  • 146 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    why would ashley asset strip a £250 million investment.

    so what you are saying sell everyone might get £100 million
    he paid £134 million for the club
    club still owe him £100 million.

    how on earth is the club with no assets give him his money back!!

  • 147 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    Good point Waddle Mullet.
    But can you please elaborate on your statement about “pleasant surprise”?

    You have made me a little excited inside amongst the doom and gloom :D

  • 148 Nick 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:15 PM

    estecho – it is not the same tony jimenez, the tony jimenez who was at the toon is not spanish for starters, and he is not an agent either, he was a property developer who had contacts in the game through property deals.

    but xisco is crap and is not up to the premiership, no pace, no strength, crap 1st touch, and backs out of challenges, i know i dont want someone in a relegation battle who offers pretty much nothing to the team!!

  • 149 Estechco // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:19 PM

    Nick 69/Spyro:

    How can you be so sure? We live in a global village these days. Brothers are allowed to be born in different countries.

    Anyhow. One transfer, involving two guys called Tony bleeding Jimenez. I smell a rat the size of MA’s rear end!

  • 150 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM

    Nick69, wrong (about Xisco)

    He is a talent, believe me.
    He was barely let go at Deportivo and he kept them from relegation.
    He scored 5 goals in 2 games to heave them from the relegation zone and continued to impress.
    He is rated 88/100 on World ratings, (done by former footballers like Alan Shearer, Lee Dixon etc) and thats not bad for a guy who sits on the bench all the time.

    Saying that he obiously isin’t impressing in training for Kinnear to play him.
    however I would like to see him play more regularly and see what he’s really made of.
    You can only really judge a player from 10- 15 games IMO.

  • 151 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    Like i said before heard a little whisper about taiwo and think its a goer.

    But if it doesn’t happen what a bummer.

    But i would believe a few whispers than the bullsh!tting press.

    Doocey

    we were suprised that jonas come in and approaches for modric and amiar had been made but for the latter two the terms were agreed but for them to pull the plug and go else where.

    So we just have to wait and see.

    I am pretty confident though.

  • 152 Tom_Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:27 PM

    Waddle – Any timescale or fee involved with Taiwo, or mumbles from the player, if he’d want to come etc?

  • 153 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:31 PM

    Tom course he wants to come.
    one of his best mates plays at right back for us.

    And his other mate plays for the scum.

    I hope its quick though before someone else nips in and gets him.

    One problem with public enemy number two (Mr wise) he seems to take a while to get them after terms are agreed.

  • 154 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:32 PM

    Thanks for that Mullet however I not holding my breath on it (just yet)

    I’m not sure how you woul know either unles you are a secretary at St.James’ Park, groundsman or a vital part of Newcastle.

    or………………………….Mayeb you’re Mike Ashley!!!!!!! lol

    Hope you’re right abot Taiwo and I like the sound of you, I would liek to talk a little more about this scenario if you were willing :) My MSN is doocey21@hotmail.com if you would be interested in talking about it or indeed anyone else here who’s a Toon fan :)

  • 155 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:39 PM

    Got the same gut as mike!!

    Just wish people on here would take a step back and let the so called enemy (wise and ash) to get on with it.

    They will back the manager but only the right type of player and cost of course.

    a day before the window was open the village idiots were calling for their heads.

    Get a grip.

    wsq

    Say no to Decimalisation!!!

  • 156 adam // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:40 PM

    its simple get rid of the usless waste of space ashley thats the only prob with the club he dont got a clue we already got small side he promised to take us foreward and now we haveto sell good players to get more not so good what a fucking joke and wheres the money from the mlner sale i fear for my club think we need some divine intervention something got to give or we going to end up out the premirship

  • 157 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:42 PM

    You’re as big as MA?:O
    WOAH!!!!!!
    Joking, certainly hope you’re right mate and I agree with you.
    I have never dogged into Mike Ashley as I want to give him a chance but when keegan departed I really questioned the ownership and public enemy number 2 Denis Wise.

    Did you add me :P

  • 158 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:47 PM

    I am abit old for that msn mate.

    But will keep posting about any whispers and hope everyone else will as its better than reading the crap in the press.

    by the way anal oliver is writing for the
    sunday people now!

  • 159 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM

    Not problem mate :)

    Thanks for giving us some hope amongst the doom and gloom that the press tirarde against us :)

    Keep updating us and if you are right about the Taiwo transfer then I would nearly send you a cheque lol!

    If you’re talking bull then I’ll add you to my enemys list lol!

    Taiwo scenario the only one in the pipeline?:)

  • 160 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:01 PM

    I would be amazed if we don’t get an attacking midfielder.

    and no all this bull about us being a selling club we are not!
    Its the players who want to go so why keep them?

    Charlie has been want to go for a year now so enough is enough let him go once the replacement is in.

  • 161 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:08 PM

    Good good but I can imagine you there siting in the computer chair thinking of stories to tell us lol!
    I actually am starting to believe you but I don’t like to ask too many questions unless I’m allowed(?)

    Yeah i agree, Zogs can leave, we’re going to amke a nice profit anyways from his move from le harve for pennies so let him leave.
    If he leaves to a foreign club even better but we can get a nice bit of cash for an arrogant and cocky player.
    As long as he is here though I hope he can fight for the black and white.

    hear anyhting on barry ferguson Waddle?

  • 162 micepie // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:10 PM

    I wonder if other team’s fans are as sulky and gloomy as our lot!

    It’d be interesting to look at posts on a Man City forum right now, though I bet that they’d be a LOT worse on the Toon blog had we lost 3-0 at home to Nott’m Forest!!

  • 163 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:17 PM

    Look

    I, myself are not connected (work) at the club.

    But one thing about the ferguson thing walter smith has said that no bids for ferguson are on the table!

    So who is kidding who, but if smith wanted as much money as he could get he would have said a number of bids are in for him.

    Would not be suprised to see Chris mort back soon.

  • 164 happy toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:23 PM

    BRING BACK KEEGAN!!!!

  • 165 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:24 PM

    I do love KEEGAN but come on.

    Move on FFS

  • 166 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:25 PM

    You don’t give too much away lol!

    Thanks for the updates anyways.
    Would love to see Sakho come to us :P

  • 167 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:32 PM

    would like to see Sissoko for butts replacement.

    attacking midfielder ????

    Left back sorted.

    and a centre forward ????

  • 168 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:39 PM

    Yeah true Sissoko would be exciting as he’s playing very well in France at the minute.

    Not sure if we need another Forward but I take Falcao or Christian Benitez or indeed Yannick :D

  • 169 Tom_Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:42 PM

    You want Yannick?

    No you DONT!

    He does like 1 good thing every 10 games for god’s sake!

  • 170 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:43 PM

    They are open to offers for:-
    Ameobi (any price)
    Viduka but crocked will hobble on a free in the summer.

    Xisco.

    So a forward is a must especially when owen will go in summer if not before.

  • 171 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:48 PM

    I like Yannick, boy can he finish and I think Newcastle would suit him!

    Or Diego Diego Buonanotte, been watching that lad for the last three years and he’s really getting into his stride with River now :)

    I don’t think owen will leave TBH and I would liek to Xisco given a chance.
    Selling and not bringing in would be awful for our season.

    I’d like Diego but he wouldn’t join us I don’t think, maybe Fegouhli or Marko Marin.
    Realistic targets but pricy…

  • 172 Tom_Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 6:57 PM

    Yannick cant finish his breakfast!

    His finishing is so inconsistent, he turns up once every 10 games!

  • 173 Doocey // Jan 4, 2009 at 7:04 PM

    Maybe you’re thinking of Hakan Yakan? loL!
    I just happen to see Yannick’s goals and they have been very impressive, he is young too,
    Nothing on Buo though or Benitéz

  • 174 CHUCK // Jan 4, 2009 at 7:46 PM

    Just thinking, must be a tough job being Joe right now, would`nt want the job for diamonds.
    SO MULLET, is it a done deal for Taiwo then ?
    What do you hear about Sissoko, is he on the radar ?
    And what about Sahko or Mouyokolo, any word there ?
    Anyone mention Bent for up front ?
    See what happens when you drop a tit bit of info to the starving fans.
    Better not be bu*****t or you will be as unpopular as MA.

  • 175 Tom_Toon // Jan 4, 2009 at 7:54 PM

    Benitez broke his leg about 3 weeks ago, he is out for like 5 months.

  • 176 Waddle's mullet // Jan 4, 2009 at 8:10 PM

    Chuck

    think we have a great chance about Taiwo from what i hear. Hope so!!

    Don’t know about Mouyokolo but just the type wise would be looking at especially with the success of bassong.

    Would not rule out us going back for Skjelberd.
    But thats my gut feeling not gospel.

    Bent is out for three weeks i think after getting injured against wigan on friday.

    Would love sissoko. will have to be quick with him though.

    And your right i could be public enemy No1 but what for?

    just telling you what i have heard and a few whispers.

    But you can always read the sunday sun etc and get excited about the 300 players they link us with and gosh in come jonas ans bassong that nobody has heard of.

  • 177 LoonyToon // Jan 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM

    Am I missing something here. It seems we have to sell in order to buy. If that’s the case expect to be hugely disappointed.
    We’ll sell and miss out on our first choice targets and end up with third/fourth choice/championship/young “prospects”.

    We should buy who we need first then sell in order to get as much cash back as possible. That way we will get who we want and possibly stay in the league. Other clubs will see we have cover with our new players and put a bid in.

    Or is that too obvious. Get your players in then sell. Simple really.

    Ashley get off your arse or get the fcuk out and stop destroying our club because you haven’t got a clue.

  • 178 brutooooon // Jan 5, 2009 at 12:00 AM

    We got some players to sell, but i dont think we would buy players that we want.

    So another dissapointing transfer window as usual.

  • 179 Doocey // Jan 5, 2009 at 1:03 AM

    I think we’l buy, if we sell which we dhouldn’t really then i hope it isin’t quality we sell although thats the only sort that will sell.

    Hope we get taiwo and sissoko and a few other too.

    P.S Didn’t know that about Benitez but I do know River Plate are doing poorly and Bou and Falcao could leave :P

  • 180 Sav // Jan 5, 2009 at 4:39 AM

    There’s a basic flaw in JFK’s ‘sell to buy’ argument:

    We are in the clarts now.

    We have to improve or we may get relegated = total disaster.

    We haven’t got many good players and we really only want to sell the bad ones.
    So unless the other clubs are all completely stupid, how the hell are we going to sell poor players and get better ones in to improve?

    The only area in which we have decent cover is in goal. And we’ll get coppers for Harps as his contract is up and Joe claims we don’t want to sell Given because he’s the best we have and we really need him.

    Either Ashole coughs up quickly or we run a real risk of relegation.

  • 181 Taiwantoon // Jan 5, 2009 at 8:29 AM

    You guys are not serious, are you?

    We had so many insiders on the blog and they were all proved wrong by MA.

  • 182 Darryl // Jan 5, 2009 at 9:53 AM

    Ed, your just as bad as the bloody papers!




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