Kinnear Has No Money From Ashley For January Sales


Joe Kinnear has talked today to the Sunday Sun about the transfer window, so let’s see what he says so we can better ascertain what our chances are of getting some good players into the club are by four weeks tomorrow, when the transfer window will close.

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Xisco – to be sold in January – but he’s never had a chance?

It seems like one player Kinnear definitely wants to sell is 22 year-old Spanish Under-21 International Xisco, who we are told was brought to Newcastle against Keegan’s wishes, and was just one of the reasons for the volcano that erupted on the last day of the sumer transfer window.

When Xisco has appeared at Newcastle, he’s looked a decent player but hardly worth the £5.7M we are supposed to have paid Deportivo La Coruna for him. It appears that the sale of Xisco is the one that Kinnear hopes will bankroll his first signing with as Newcastle manager.

But whether we can find a buyer for Xisco, who is willing to pay anywhere near £5.7M,  is a good question. Xisco has hardly covered himself in glory at St. James’ Park, since we’ve never played the boy, for one reason. Xisco now looks like on of our bad buys in the summer along with loan signing Ignacio Gonzalez, but only because the Uruguayan got injured.

Joe Kinnear told the Sunday Sun today:

“If we can get back somewhere near what we paid for the player we have in mind then I could go and get another player that I want for £5m,”

“One deal will automatically trigger the next one.?”

“So I’m banging on the door hoping that they (the buying club) will make a decision because the player that I want is wanted by other teams too.”

“The last thing I want is to let someone else get in there before we do.”

The Sunday Sun says that Kinnear is also eager to sell Enrique, after we signed the lad from Villarreal for £6.3m in the summer of 2007.

But we would question the validity of that, because Jose is again starting to play well at left-back and it seems he needs a good few games to get his form back, but he’s now playing quite solidly at left back. He’s good moving forward and has great left foot on him, and we like his attitude because he wants to stay and fight for his place at the club, and that can’t be too bad.

That doesn’t say we mustn’t get in another left-back during January, but he would then have to fight it out with Jose for the left back starting berth.  Joe needs to fill out the squad which will add to the competition for places at Newcastle – and that’s what he’s trying to do, but with up front money not available, it will not be easy.

Kinnear continued:

“I just hope it never comes down to Mike suggesting to me that I sell Shay Given in order to free up funds,” “I’d tell Mike that Shay must stay.”

“Shay is an untouchable as far as I’m concerned. Shay and Michael are untouchable in January and there’s no chance I’d sell.”

Kinnear’s bid to keep Given will be sorely tested if we cannot unload the players we want to sell, like Xisco and Geremi.  That’s especially true if Manchester City come in with a huge bid, and then Mike would be challenged with an important decision to make.

It certainly promises to be a very interesting transfer window for Newcastle – watch this space.

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182 comments so far

  • dingo

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #1

    no comment

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  • stormywaters

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #2

    The same article also talks about Jonas & Coloccini maybe also being allowe dto leave to get Joe his £16 million!!
    This has got to be rubbish

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  • Bill F (Original)

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #3

    Dingo, agreed!!

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  • CLINT FLICK

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:51 PM

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  • Toon1978

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #5

    ASHLEY OUT!!!!!! we are doomed to the CC. Writing is on the wall. No funds,no EPL, this bloke Ashley is going to end up with his head kicked in if this is to be right.

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  • Legs

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #6

    oh xisco, we hardly knew ye,

    This club is going down the shitter.

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  • magsie

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #7

    So MA`s idea of moving the club forward in 2009 is to give the manager who has an injury plagued, ,players wanting to leave and an already small squad NO money to spend!!!
    What the Hell is that man on?
    Total Disgrace! If this is true and not a ploy to play the we are poor card in reference to paying over the odds for players, then the bloke cant be sitting foot in St James again in my opinion!!!

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  • dickfan

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #8

    God I’m so sick of all this bullshit. I’m not reading anymore newspapers or rumour crap untill the end of the transfer window.

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  • toon mad chris

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #9

    sell:
    xisco = 4 mill
    smith = 2 mill /swap with baines
    ameobi = 3 mill
    cacapa = 1 mill
    n’zogbia = about 8 mill

    theres about 18 million.

    buy=
    papa boupa diop = 3 mill
    baines = 4 mill
    parker = 6 mill
    noble =5 mill

    How does that sound?

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  • workyticket

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #10

    Dr Ed Harrison, you write that you have a Phd in computing, yet you seem to believe everything that is written in the newspapers. This can’t be right! 😉

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  • geordie jock

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #11

    If this is all true i hope you pro ashley supporters hang your heads in shame. Most fans can see our club is being destroyed at at alarming rate and no decent signings are coming our way. If Ashley does get behind the team and manages to get some decent players in then i will hold my hands up and admit i was wrong but i know this will not happen As i said earlier Ashley, tell the fans the truth

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  • simon376

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #12

    The Xisco thing just shows how right Keegan was.

    Does anybody still think our last bunch of owners were as bad as made out?

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  • CLINT FLICK

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #13

    This is in the press-Get a grip, you softies.

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  • dickfan

    Jan 4, 2009 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #14

    What has happened to the supposed £20 million a season?

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #15

    mike ashley made his fortune selling cheap tat to the public.
    mike ashley is now trying to sell cheap tat in the form of entertainment to a knowledgeable football public,where will all this lead?do the maths!!!!

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  • Dondatta13

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #16

    Either Im stuck in a vortex or its groundhog day.

    Where are the pro Ashley lot now?

    Fattys killed this club

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #17

    Xisco derserves a chance at the Toon 🙂
    He can’t be bad especially when he was brought in along with Jonas and Coloccini.

    As for Toon Mad Chris – Get realistic!!!
    Noble for 5m?! Maybe 15 at the best baring in mind West Ham’s financial crisis!

    And Parker won’t come back, thats for sure..

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  • AndyNUFC

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #18

    If we even get 4mill back for Xisco we’ll be laughing. It’s all very well saying he’s young and hasn’t had a fair chance, but we need players who are going to make an impact now, not in the future. We are in a relegation fight.

    For me, 4mill back on an unnecesary striker, which can be spent on a really quality player (Bassong for 2mill, Jonas for 3mill, anyone?) will help us on the pitch.

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  • Shay=God amongst men

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #19

    Where is the money from Milner’s sale? We were supposed to get shweinsteiger after he left, but he didn’t want to come to us, that led us to getting Nacho. But where the hell is the 10-12 million for Milners departure??!!??!!

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  • Cyprus-Toon

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #20

    Why is it we talk about selling our players for £3, £4 or £5m when other clubs like the Wet Spams say Upson is valued at £15m?? why is that… why do other clubs nearly always get our players on the cheap?? is it because we’re that desperate to sell them, we’ll except what ever they offer, the likes of Shay Given, amounts of £8-£10m are being splashed all over the crap-loids… if he’s one of the best goalies in the EPL, which he is, then imo think he’s worth double that, I mean look at the competition:

    Gordon £9m
    Cech – £20m
    Buffon – £30m
    James – £10m
    Jaskalinen – £7m
    Reina – £15m
    Schwarzer – £5m
    Van der Sar – £5m
    Shay – £15 easily 🙂

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #21

    reillers

    Beyethegreat, they didn’t really talk Given up either, not till the statment, they don’t really seem to have a clue about here.
    But I don’t think Kinnear is that impressed with Harper, the way he’s going hell bent to keep Given, the way he’s saying he’s the best keeper in the Prem by a mile..etc. It’s got me thinking he doesn’t rate him much.

    well he is the best imo ut yeah it does show a little lack of faith

    or it could be that he is worried harper wont sign a new contract

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  • Jezza

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #22

    The situation is even worse than that. Kinnear is not under orders to sell in order to buy new players. He has to sell to raise cash that will not be re-invested in new players. Ashley has turned Newcastle United into a selling club. That all became abundantly clear when he cashed in on James Milner despite the then manager’s desperation to keep the player at all costs. It was further emphasisied when he refused to make Milner’s transfer fee available for new players.

    In this transfer window, NUFC will sell the likes of Given, N’Zogbia and Taylor for £15-£20 million and in return will spend a mere £5-£6 million on a couple of duffers from Scotland or the Championship, along with maybe another untried 17 year old and a couple of crocks on loan. That is the harsh reality of Ashley’s vision of “driving the club forward in 2009”.

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  • workyticket

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #23

    “Does anybody still think our last bunch of owners were as bad as made out?”

    Er, yes Simon. They were an absolute disaster!

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  • Toon1978

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #24

    NUFC need a MIRACLE. i think i now agree with one of the bloggers on here….(fans should own the club)

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  • Ericles

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #25

    I think Joe has lost the plot. He is just a front man to the sabotaging southern mafia that are destroying NUFC. Get rid of the lot!!!!

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #26

    andyglostoon // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:51

    one manager i really like neil warnock just said on setanta that he believe’s shay’s just crying out for help to ashley for more players,warnock also said that 50k fans a week deserve more than they getting a the moment!

    when did he say this and what channel

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  • raghav

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #27

    ashley knows we cant win anything in premiership so he wants to go down a division & win championship later,assley is a genious.i hope he has a major accident,which should stop him from spending on his parties rather then investing on the team

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #28

    soz andy lol i missed the setanta part lol

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  • Dan157

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #29

    Just by reading Kinnear’s comments you can tell that just like every transfer window we at best are going to bring one in, ship one out. It is simply rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. We need to fill out the squad. What is the point of swapping 1 left back with another, selling Nzogbia so we can bu a CM but not replace him and leave us short somewhere else. Ashley is running this club like a fruit and Veg stall.

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #30

    When we sign our first player all nerves will cool.
    As long as its a decent player who wants to fight for the club that is…

    If Kinnear hasn’t been given money I am a raging bull and will be very annoyed.
    But as I’ve said he surely has been given some, especially when he’s making enquiries about players and especially when Ashley can blow 5m on some entertainment on the town?

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  • AndyNUFC

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #31

    Jezza, selling Given, Zog and Taylor would get us 30mill atleast, which could be used to buy atleast 5 players, or more baragin finds like Bassong.

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  • craig chisholm

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #32

    clint flick………..how can this be the press when they are jfk’s own words man??? these are words from kinnears gob. ashley again has made no money available. ashley is trying to destroy us on purpose as far as i can see. i dont know why he would do this but he obviously is, there is no question about it. i want to know where all the pro ashley twats are these days. i have been argueing with them for donkeys telling them ashley is a twat but all the bum boys were always sticking up for him. i think ashley is scum and i hate is face and every stinking breathe that comes out his fat lying mouth.
    i will predict something else….jfk will walk in this window and we will be managerless for the rest of the season as its impossible wise could come in as i would personally try to get to him and kick his teeth in. jfk is now starting to see the man that ashley is, he has no loyalty and does not tell the truth. he said himself just last week that he would give jfk some funds, he said funds were available, now they are not, we have to sell to buy – lets be honest, who is going to buy our dross players for anything other than peanuts. the only players we can sell are the ones we need. i can see given defo going this window, regardless of what are pathetic manager says. wise will be doing the deal this week i expect and then tell jfk about it afterwards. i hope ashley understands whats going to kick off very soon. he thought last time was a bit hostile, ha ha.

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #33

    mike ashley is a greedy and unrealistic man,as freddie shepherd once said;”we pay rolls royce wages,we want rolls royce performances”.
    on the flip side mike ashley wants rolls royce performances from skoda,s.

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #34

    Toon1978 // Jan 4, 2009 at 13:11

    NUFC need a MIRACLE. i think i now agree with one of the bloggers on here….(fans should own the club)

    i agree

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  • Dan157

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #35

    Toon1978

    When you consider some of the owners an managers we’ve had it’s a miracle we are still in the league.

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  • Little Willie

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #36

    simon376 // Jan 4, 2009 at 12:58

    The Xisco thing just shows how right Keegan was.

    ———-

    How?

    Don’t forget Keegan met Xisco when he came to the club for a look around and told him his plans for moving the club forward.

    Xisco’s problem is down to shocking man management bu Kinnear more than anything as far as I’m concerned.

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  • craig chisholm

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #37

    andynufc…………given, zog and taylor give us 30 million?? what you on mate, you know its only early on the sabbeth dont you. given – 9 million, taylor – 5 mill and zogs 6 million tops. thats about 19 million max for those three.

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  • Cyprus-Toon

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #38

    I want to know when I post anything that’s against Ashley/Newcastle it gets posted on her but if I write anything pro-Ashley, it doesn’t get posted… why is that Ed????

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #39

    Maybe but we will buy someone and I still believe Kinnear has been given some funds.

    Hope he has!
    Otherwise Ashley’s a pure bread wan**er
    I’m going to remain optimistic unlike most 🙂

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  • AndyNUFC

    Jan 4, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #40

    Think about it mate, Man City just bought a second choice left back for 12mill, so if we sell to them we can get 20mill for Given easy. Zog will go for around 6mill, and when you think about how Milner was 12mill because he’s English, Taylor will go for 8mill.

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