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Kinnear Has No Money From Ashley For January Sales


Joe Kinnear has talked today to the Sunday Sun about the transfer window, so let’s see what he says so we can better ascertain what our chances are of getting some good players into the club are by four weeks tomorrow, when the transfer window will close.

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Xisco – to be sold in January – but he’s never had a chance?

It seems like one player Kinnear definitely wants to sell is 22 year-old Spanish Under-21 International Xisco, who we are told was brought to Newcastle against Keegan’s wishes, and was just one of the reasons for the volcano that erupted on the last day of the sumer transfer window.

When Xisco has appeared at Newcastle, he’s looked a decent player but hardly worth the £5.7M we are supposed to have paid Deportivo La Coruna for him. It appears that the sale of Xisco is the one that Kinnear hopes will bankroll his first signing with as Newcastle manager.

But whether we can find a buyer for Xisco, who is willing to pay anywhere near £5.7M,  is a good question. Xisco has hardly covered himself in glory at St. James’ Park, since we’ve never played the boy, for one reason. Xisco now looks like on of our bad buys in the summer along with loan signing Ignacio Gonzalez, but only because the Uruguayan got injured.

Joe Kinnear told the Sunday Sun today:

“If we can get back somewhere near what we paid for the player we have in mind then I could go and get another player that I want for £5m,”

“One deal will automatically trigger the next one.?”

“So I’m banging on the door hoping that they (the buying club) will make a decision because the player that I want is wanted by other teams too.”

“The last thing I want is to let someone else get in there before we do.”

The Sunday Sun says that Kinnear is also eager to sell Enrique, after we signed the lad from Villarreal for £6.3m in the summer of 2007.

But we would question the validity of that, because Jose is again starting to play well at left-back and it seems he needs a good few games to get his form back, but he’s now playing quite solidly at left back. He’s good moving forward and has great left foot on him, and we like his attitude because he wants to stay and fight for his place at the club, and that can’t be too bad.

That doesn’t say we mustn’t get in another left-back during January, but he would then have to fight it out with Jose for the left back starting berth.  Joe needs to fill out the squad which will add to the competition for places at Newcastle – and that’s what he’s trying to do, but with up front money not available, it will not be easy.

Kinnear continued:

“I just hope it never comes down to Mike suggesting to me that I sell Shay Given in order to free up funds,” “I’d tell Mike that Shay must stay.”

“Shay is an untouchable as far as I’m concerned. Shay and Michael are untouchable in January and there’s no chance I’d sell.”

Kinnear’s bid to keep Given will be sorely tested if we cannot unload the players we want to sell, like Xisco and Geremi.  That’s especially true if Manchester City come in with a huge bid, and then Mike would be challenged with an important decision to make.

It certainly promises to be a very interesting transfer window for Newcastle – watch this space.

Comments welcome.


182 comments so far

  • workyticket

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #81

    Aye Wigaz, brought a horrible image into me heed that one. Thanks for that 😉

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  • Spyro

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #82

    Toon1978

    Wrong person mate.

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #83

    did anyone see the under 21 tournament a couple of years back,lita was being sent death threats for his lack of goal scoring prowess.

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  • Toon1978

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #84

    Sorry Spyro i meant beyethegreat my apologies lol.

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  • Dondatta13

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #85

    AndyNUFC, agreed mate, Given IS the best keeper in the league, if Man City can pay £12m for Bridge Given is easy money at £18m.

    How much did E.T (David James) go for?

    I think Cyprus Toon (comment 20 made alot of sence).

    ______________________________________

    Dan157 // Jan 4, 2009 at 13:16

    Toon1978

    When you consider some of the owners an managers we’ve had it’s a miracle we are still in the league.

    Yes mate, the miracle is called SHAY GIVEN 😉

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #86

    toon1978

    mate i would defo invest something it is unlikely as i doubt many people would be interested but if we could do it it would be amazing

    we could finally have stability

    imagine what that would be like

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #87

    harold steptoe is a choir boy compared to ashley,ashley,s reign is starting to mirror the bad old days of mckeag and co.

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  • sirjasontoon™

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #88

    Rags old iron rags old iron
    All he was buying was just rags and old iron
    For those big empty promises you used to make
    For those memories of you that are no longer sweet
    I wish he could haul them off down the street

    Maybe Mike could be the new Nina Simone sounds very similar.

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  • Dondatta13

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #89

    Spyro // Jan 4, 2009 at 13:48

    Exactly. Xisco has already shown enough to suggest he is far superior to Andy Carroll. What does Carroll offer exactly? He is supposed to be our tall, hold up striker, yet he wins absolutely nothing in the air.

    Ummm, He won a penalty against Liverpool in the air.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #90

    Dondatta

    You and i both know that was a ridiculous decision and the penalty was completely underserved.

    Anyway, it was against Wigan.

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  • Marty-TOON RISING

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #91

    Why do people on here want PARKER back,he is just another sick note.
    He never really commanded the middle of the park.
    No thank you i say

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  • simon376

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #92

    What I have seen of Xisco has been terrible, I think he looks toatl rubbish and wouldnt have got past a trial if he had had one. For his sake I hope he gets a move back to spain where he might do ok.

    Is anybody watching our old full backs team on ITV?

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  • sirjasontoon™

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #93

    Parker=Ballerina

    And bottled challenges….spins like a fairy.

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #94

    some songs that remind me of our great leader=
    YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON.
    DAY DREAM BELIEVER.
    PUPPET ON A STRING.
    FUN FUN FUN.
    SEVEN DRUNKEN NIGHTS.
    SWEET TALKING GUY.
    HOW CAN I BE SURE.
    LISTEN TO WHAT THE MAN SAID.
    SO YOU WIN AGAIN.
    CANT GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE.
    WITHOUT YOU.

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  • AndyNUFC

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #95

    Was it against Charlton (one of his last games I think) where he literally span on the ball like 2 or 3 times? I think that was the point where people’s frustration just kicked in and we started to see more cons to pros with Parker.

    Sometimes you need more than a couple hard tackles a game, (unless your name is Cattermole).

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  • Sav

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #96

    Lita isn’t the kind of forward we need. We’ve already got Oba and Owen who are relatively lightweight and don’t contribute greatly when we don’t have possession.

    Why doesn’t Joe just shut his gob. There’s nothing so unsettling as the man at the top (kind of) spouting contradictory statements every few days. Small wonder Shay and Zog are unsettled. Like the fans, they’re probably wondering wtf is going on.
    Weren’t we getting 12 million only a week or so ago? Its supposed to be Wise’s hands, but Joe knows what we’ve bid? 3 fringe players for 16 million? Joe said he has the final word on transfers, but clearly he has very little influence – he’s still ‘hoping FatAsh doesn’t suggest he sell Shay Given’. Obviously a suggestion from the fat man is a dictat in stone to JFK.

    Mind, there’s some nutters on here as well.
    Yes, Bassong was a bargain. But how many undiscovered gems have we discovered through years of trying to sort out our defence? Yet some here reckon we should just go out and buy a whole team full of 2 million players…I give up!

    Some want to wait until after the transfer window to see if Ashley will finally deliver on promises. Your protests then will be too late. Kinnear has said we intend to raise 16 million through transfers out. That is rubbish. He has stated we are after Barry Ferguson. Not good enough. Better to protest like hell now. If we’re all wrong, we’ll say we’re very sorry and he’s a great guy, afterwards. But we’ll still be in the EPL.

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  • Dondatta13

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #97

    Spyro, Wigan, my bad

    But that was a deffo pen man, he got punched clean on the temple.

    I couldnt imagine Xisco going for a ball like that in a million years.

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  • Stuart

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #98

    Mr Pound Land is a complete and utter wan*er!!!

    I believe we should wait until Feb 2nd and when we have had no positive transfers into the club but some of our good players have left we should start the demo’s up again!

    Ashley thinks he’s ridden the storm! We need to show him he hasn’t and we won’t stand for our club to treated like a toy that he has got fed up off!

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #99

    I’d definitely buy Lita, sort his attitude out and you got a player.

    350k too.

    We need a player with pace to stretch defenses, only Martins can do this.

    Lita and Martins are not at all lightweight either.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #100

    Dondatta

    Xisco probably wouldn’t, but is that what Carroll offers then?

    Do you honestly feel Carroll wins the ball in the air enough for someone of his size?

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  • Sav

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #101

    ….relatively, they are.

    All three of them are under 5’8″, TomToon.
    That’s not heavyweight.

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  • Toon1978

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #102

    Our team for next MONTH lads…

    ………………………….Harper………………………..

    Taylor……..Collo……………Bassong…..Enrique

    Jonas………….Fergusen…….Guthrie…….Duff

    ………………….Martins………..Smith…………..

    Money made off Xisco,N’Zogbia,Given,Owen,Barton,Carol will go in the pocket of Ashley. Leaving us with a subs bench like this…

    KRUL
    AMEOBI
    EDGAR
    LUA LUA
    BUTT

    Bit negative but a possibility.

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  • Rich

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #103

    20 million per season would be enough but it doesnt look like thats going to happen.

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #104

    TROJAN 69 // Jan 4, 2009 at 14:19

    some songs that remind me of our great leader=
    YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON.
    DAY DREAM BELIEVER.
    PUPPET ON A STRING.
    FUN FUN FUN.
    SEVEN DRUNKEN NIGHTS.
    SWEET TALKING GUY.
    HOW CAN I BE SURE.
    LISTEN TO WHAT THE MAN SAID.
    SO YOU WIN AGAIN.
    CANT GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE.
    WITHOUT YOU.

    what about

    MONEY MONEY MONEY
    THE BLOBBY SONG
    BAD
    99 PROBLEMS
    MO’MONEY MO’ PROBLEMMS
    tears of a clown
    hungry eyes
    7 things i hate the most about you
    toxic
    oops i did it again
    hit me baby 1 more time

    but if i could pick a song for the toon army it would be

    dreams can come true

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  • Rich

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #105

    and where is the milner money?!

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  • wsq

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #106

    ashley out *yawns*

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  • Estechco

    Jan 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #107

    You don’t suppose Xisco only came to toon because his brother (and agent) are a certain Tony Jiminez do you? I had trouble believing it too, but try googling “xisco jiminez brother agent” if you want to see the sh*t we’re in

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  • Stuart

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #108

    How long do you think it will be until Mike ‘Pound Land’ Ashley decides to sell Bassong?

    He’s already our player of the season and our best defender.

    I don’t think it’ll be long until someone comes sniffing round him.

    He will probably start to think himself ‘do I really want to play at a basket case club when I could play for a team with ambition.

    Our only has about as ambition the size of a midgets di*k!

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  • Spyro

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #109

    Estechco

    It is not the same Jimenez.

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  • The Entertainers

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #110

    I’m not sure what i’m missing.

    Did the article state Kinnear was getting no money?

    I accept that Ashely has asked certain players to be moved on, but nearly every other article on this site has up to 6 players leaving and 6 coming in !

    Once again i think its worth while waiting until Feb’ and then congratulating or condeming Ashley!

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  • Sav

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #111

    They should put in a cheeky bid for Micah Richards while he’s having a ad patch. Citeh are being linked with so many players, they probably wouldn’t even miss him.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #112

    SAv – Are you that ignorant to suggest that taller people are stronger?!?!! If you are then you are an idiot.

    As for Richards, we dont need another vastly overrated English defender, we already have one who is just as bad.

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  • joe-newcastle-fan

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #113

    im sure the lita story is just tabloid rubbish but i really hope its true, ive wanted him along side martins at toon since he was unsettled at reading. And if the bargain price is to be believed surely even tight man ashley can be convinced to raise enough to bring him in.

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  • GEORDIE69

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #114

    Citeh fans have been slaughtering Richards not many rate him at all! I personally think he is a great defender!

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  • Sav

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #115

    Yeah, I guess I must be, Tom Toon. But thankfully there’s usually some smartarse around to keep me well- informed.
    …Thanks.

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  • Dondatta13

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #116

    Spyro between Carroll and Xisco, Id side with Carroll every time. Id rather someone willing to risk injury to them self for the sake of the team than a pull out of a challenge contintental type.

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #117

    nice one beye.

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #118

    THANK U TROJAN

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #119

    When are you lot going to learn.

    Do not believe anything in the papers about targets. Especially sundaysun.

    We won’t be signing any dream targets like adriano ETC. ETC

    It’s only the 4th Jan for god sake and you are shouting ashley out JFK out.

    Wait till the 2nd feb and you might be pleasantly suprised.

    Trust me!

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  • wsq

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #120

    ashley out even before the window started. ashley out since keegan walked out

    i will always be ashley out!

    🙂

    and kinnear out

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