Transfer “Plan A” Not Working So Loan Signings Could be Key


Joe Kinnear is in a difficult position in the transfer market because basically he needs to sell before he can buy – and nobody is buying from Newcastle – well not yet anyway.

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Ignacio Gonzalez – will be sent back to Valencia

The Journal is reporting that 22 year-old Spanish Under-21 striker Xisco has been put up for sale, and that midfielder Nacho Gonzalez will be sent back to Valencia in the coming weeks, after being out injured with an Achilles injury for most of his time on Tyneside, and not expected to be fit until March.

That will both reduce the wage bill and allow Newcastle to bring in some good loan signings, which is looking the best way to go, if we cannot sell any of our players.

Newcastle will be hoping to recoup some of the £5.7M fee they paid for young Xisco, but getting a sizable fee for the youngster will be difficult, since he seems to have been a failure in English football.

Joe talked about the transfer situation today:

“We keep banging on those doors but I don’t want to get the supporters hopes up by saying that we’re going to sign someone by the end of the week or putting any time limit like that on it,”

“At the moment whatever we have tried to do hasn’t come off. Things are moving along but clubs are still deciding and we’re still waiting for someone to say yes to us”

“Everyone is trying to do the same as we are in January but clubs don’t want to sell players at this stage of the season and it is difficult.”

It’s not going to be easy to strengthen the squad in January, and maybe even more so because of the poor economic climate, but we’ve got to do something.

Kinnear and Wise are right to wait a week or two to see how things shape up, but if we don’t sell there must be a Plan B that says we can buy say one player, funded by Ashley, and bring in another two on loan.

An alternative to this is that Kinnear could be forced to sell players he doesn’t want to sell, like Charles N’Zogbia or even Shay Given, but he will resist that, at least in January.

Joe continued:

“I’ve made a player available and his name will be circulated. We’re going to send Gonzalez back, I believe,”

This stalemate cannot go on for too long in January, but let’s hope we can sell some of the players we want to, so that Joe can then bring in some new players.

Wishing and hoping.

Comments welcome.



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137 comments so far

  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #1

    I was gonna post a link to this story but Ed beat me to it.

    What message does this give the fans:

    Dont expect any signings and thos two were a waste of time and money and KK should have stuck around and done the same thing and all this could have been avoided!!!!!!

    Nice on NUFC – shambles!!!!

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  • Amsick0fthis

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #2

    maybe its time for joe to stay quiet everytime he speaks it’s a different story
    no wonder supporters are up in arms we have no idea what is going on

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  • Born Again Geordie

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #3

    I will believe it when I see it, like I said yesterday there is no point getting sucked in by media speculation and dodgy quotes taken out of context.

    Only believe when you see it in black and white !!! 🙂

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  • Brettoon

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #4

    No money in 3 transfer windows… It’s just not fair!

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  • Murphy

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #5

    Yeah basically this a F*&% you we aint signing anyone and we’re showing zero ambition. That’s ok then Mike Ashley, don’t invest in a thread-bare team and lets see where this gets you? Mid table? I doubt it.

    Is he f*&king stupid? Can’t he see the once great newcastle team is now pretty bloody poor?

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  • C'est moi

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #6

    Well, if we decided to bring in players from Holland and Scandinavia we wouldn’t have to resort to ‘Plan B’. There are some very decent players in these places and I’m sure they would be willing to come and not to expensive.

    It annoys me when we go for overated Scots

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  • toonmadtom

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #7

    the latest rumour is that were goin for pedro mendes, what do yous think

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #8

    Amsickofthis –

    nice handle and agree with your name.

    I am quite sick of this. Then you have the likes of Citey and Spuds splashing cash on what can be argued as quality players (ie better than Xisco & Gonzo). Boils my Pi$$.

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  • David Craig

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #9

    toonmadtom

    The club has no interest in Pedro Mendes.

    They are working on a number of deals at the moment one being trying to sign Jermaine Pennant however Pennant has also received offers from other clubs and just a case waiting for his answer.

    They are negotiating to bring in a left back from abroad and are not too far away from agreeing a fee.

    A big name attacking midfielder is also lined up which will be a massive coup for the club. The deal is 80% complete and they are working hard trying to get the deal closed.

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  • lesh

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #10

    ‘S obvious what the net result of all this – players bought, 0; players sold, 2. Is this strengthening an already weak squad?

    Surely, if the will was there, MA’d bankroll a couple of signings early this window and allow the attempts at player departures take its course?

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  • Who is Derek Llambias?

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #11

    over-rated scots??
    I’d prefer any of the old firms players over some unknown scamp from the continent.

    Mendes? yes please.

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  • Tom

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #12

    I posted a comment yesterday that said basically this.

    The club are looking at loan deals only.

    If they do manager to sell someone they may be able to use that money to buy a replacement.

    Ashley is willing to gamble that we stay up and next season is hoping that the economic outlook is better and will try and sell the club again.

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  • lesh

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #13

    David Craig // Jan 6, 2009 at 9:50 , please explain to a simple sod how a deal can be 80% complete. Such talk baffles me.

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  • C'est moi

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #14

    Mendes isn’t Scottish

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  • Rohan

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #15

    David Craig- You have posted that same story at least three times now, word for word.

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  • leon in Germany

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #16

    Levurkusen say they want 7m for Barnetta:(.

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  • Darren

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #17

    David Craig: You went quiet last night.

    OK, so does that mean the JK’s comments are all complete rubbish, particularly regarding his lack of funds?

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  • As expected is all I can say.
    Plan A is not working because we know the owner is not prepared to invest in proven quality football players.

    The Club is nothing but a toy for Ashley,Loan players are not the way forward,that brings no continuity/stability.I think he is already preparing for the championship…this sucks.

    Pennant is awful as well,bad attitude and no end product.

    So we are now a selling club..but our players are that useless nobody wants them and where is the money from milner??

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  • HeronMag

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #19

    I just don’t get this. How can Ashley not see the desperate need for investment? Fair enough Nacho was a waste of time, send him packing. But why sell a Spanish under-21 who hasn’t had a chance to prove himself when our squad is threadbare as it is!?

    Come on Mike. You’ve committed yourself to the club. Lets see some of that cash you’ve got stashed away.

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  • Stuart

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #20

    Tottenham have agreed a fee believed to be in the region of 14m quid for Defoe. They also bid 6m for Bellamy and are prepared to pay mpre than 10m for Downing.

    We does all their money come from?

    The argument that they sold in the summer doesn’t stack up! They sold Keane and Berbatov for 52m.

    They paid 17m for Bentley, 16m on Modric, 8m on Corluka and 13m on Pavlychenko. That’s 54m.

    So where they getting the 30m for this transfer window?

    This is a plc with no benefactor.

    W are just getting so far left behind it’s scary!

    I for one will be cancelling my 3 year season ticket after this Jan if nothings is done positively.

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  • j_7as

    Jan 6, 2009 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #21

    Craig David amuse me, you seem to think you know a lot about deals going on..

    Is the AC Milan link with Pennant true? Just doesn’t make any sense to me for a club like that to be in for him

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  • HeronMag

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #22

    sirjasontoon – YEAH GOOD POINT – WHERE IS THE MILNER MONEY MIKE!?!?

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  • Rohan

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #23

    leon in Germany- So are you saying that we have bid for Barnetta, or is that just Leverkusen’s price tag?

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  • Dickyd

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #24

    David Craig //

    Are you THE………. David Craig from SSN ?

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  • toonmadtom

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #25

    i think mendes could do a good job for us like, hes cheap aswell. 2m

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  • Todd

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #26

    M. Johnson could be available i see if for the Parker sale. Johnson would be a good addition and fits the wise/ashely transfer bill. He could be another Guthrie find.

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  • gorskino10

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #27

    Why isnt Ashley giving any money AGAIN what a twat saying ” im here for the club” then he wont give them no money please please get ashley out ASAP

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  • David Craig

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #28

    Yes Kinnears comments aren’t correct.

    Mike is 100% committed to taking the club forward and realises that the squad needs to be strenghthened, he is not however interested in making short term signings the players we sign in this window will be of similar quality to Colocinni and Gutierrez on long term contracts. Specific positions have been identified and the recruitment team are working hard in bringing in their no1 targets. It doesn’t always work out but the money is there for the right player. As I said yesterday it is not Kinnear who is signing the players he puts forward targets but its up to the recruitment team and Mike as to who they attempt to sign.

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  • Whumpie

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #29

    Why is everyone surprised? What bit of football history is it that makes anyone think we’re going to get any decent, permanent signings in January?

    Unless you’re Citeh or another club with daft money to chuck, it just doesn’t happen. Yet people on here are up in arms the moment we fail to sign someone in the first week. Daft.

    JFK said weeks ago – and it may prove to be the one thing he’s said which comes true – that we’re probably dependent on loans for this window. And loans are the sensible thing to do, just to get us to the end of the season when good players are available at half the price.

    Of course, if we get to Feb 2nd and we don’t have loan signings either, I’ll be joining you lot with my pile of toys launching in all directions.

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  • leon in Germany

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #30

    We have bid 4m for Barnetta, but Levurkusen say they want 7m.

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  • toonmadtom

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #31

    how much would city want for johnson though. MA wont spend more than 5 or 6m on one player

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  • Whumpie

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #32

    David Craig – well said (if a little ‘Ashley PR Team’ in tone!)

    But I’m sick of everyone ignoring what’s being said and just ranting about Ashley not spending money. Has anyone said anything (and I mean quotes, not tabloid fiction) that would suggest he’s not prepared to spend money?

    Nope. He’ll spend it if the right deal is there to be done. Which doesn’t happen in January.

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  • David Craig

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #33

    toonmadtom

    If the deal for the atttacking midfielder comes off it will be for a fee in excess of what we oaid for Colocinni, the money is there for the right player.

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  • Todd

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #34

    i wouldn’t think Johnson would be really expensive, especially if they’re trying to push him out the door to bring Parker in. 4-6m. but what would i know?

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  • toonfan1

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #35

    David Craig- if what your saying is true, when will the first signing be completed in your view?

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  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #36

    david craig,what are your credentials?where are you getting this information from?
    what are your sources,you seem to just spout the same propagandaesque gestapo crap.

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  • Darren

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #37

    DC: OK, so the manager is lying to the press and the supporters are getting more and more dissatisfied with the owner as a result.

    If that were true, why would Mike Ashley (who wants to be more actively involved in the club and watch matches from the ground) allow JK to continue to further damage his reputation.

    I’m sorry, but that doesn’t make sense….

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  • Rohan

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #38

    David Craig- I am still yet to get an answer from you as to who this ‘big signing’ is. And don’t tell me that you cannot disclose the name of the player either…

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  • craig chisholm

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #39

    david craig……………you are proper full of shit mate, sorry and all that and no offence but you are spewing utter crap. ashely is a greedy little tosser who will not spend a bean on us.

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  • BarmyArmy

    Jan 6, 2009 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #40

    If you actually look at the quotes, couldn’t this just be a media spin?

    “We keep banging on those doors (of clubs we want to buy from) but I don’t want to get the supporters hopes up by saying that we’re going to sign someone by the end of the week or putting any time limit like that on it,”

    “At the moment whatever we have tried to do (Buy players) hasn’t come off. Things are moving along but clubs are still deciding (If to sell) and we’re still waiting for someone to say yes to us”

    “Everyone is trying to do the same as we are in January (Buy) but clubs don’t want to sell players at this stage of the season and it is difficult.”

    Or am I missing the point???

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