Mendes Looks Out Of Reach But Ferguson Deal Possible


Newcastle have been told they can get Rangers captain Barry Ferguson for £3M, but it will cost £6M to get Portuguese midfielder Pedro Mendes.

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Pedro Mendes – value has doubled in 6 months?

But this doesn’t seem a good deal for Newcastle since Mendes moved north of the border in August for just £3m from Portsmouth.

But there again we haven’t had too many good deal from Rangers, and after Jean-Alain Boumsong joined them as a free agent in the summer 2004 from Auxerre, and then we paid an amazing £8M for him, and he then showed he was hopeless, even though for some reason he kept being selected for the France senior squad, and he has played 24 times for France, which is amazing.

At that time of course our manager was Graeme Souness, and he was good friends with Rangers Chairman, David Murray.   We heard they were even better friends after that deal.  😀

It is well known that David Murray has asked Rangers manager Walter Smith to trim his wage bill and is willing to listen to offers, but it is unlikely that Newcastle would agree to meet the £6M value, given that Mendes turns 30 next month, and assuming Newcastle are no longer a soft touch in the transfer market, as we used to be.

It seems that Rangers are determined to move on a couple of players this month but Rangers chairman Sir David Murray appeared to indicate that he was not about to offload even Barry Ferguson on the cheap:

“We have no intention of selling Allan McGregor, Barry Ferguson, Madjid Bougherra or anybody else,”

“There is no pressure to do so on me or the banks.”

“But Rangers have to be run on a sound fiscal basis. We did not budget for losing to FBK Kaunas (ending the club’s European push).”

“We have a squad of 28 players and we simply cannot sustain the level of outgoings compared to what is coming in.”

“We are paying between £5m and £7m in wages per year for players who are not required. You cannot choose who you may wish to put out the door because it is dependent on offers coming in.”

We think buying Barry Ferguson for a reasonable fee could well be on the cards for Newcastle, but we’re more worried right now about losing some of our better players in January – like Shay Given, Joey Barton or Charles N’Zogbia, and not being able to get enough new good players into the club to replace them adequately.

This is a trap we just cannot get into during January.

Comments welcome.



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30 comments so far

  • Toon_Ksk

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #1

    Strange that they are willing to let go of their skipper at a lower price. It must be his injury problems or it could well be that he is well past his best.

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  • samthecat

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #2

    i thought Newcastle had a policy of not buying players unless they had a re-saleable value-this is why Keegan was told to forget trying for Hyppia-this surely rules out Ferguson or Mendes.

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  • keeganpleasecomeback

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #3

    watching butt and ferguson playing side by side in midfield with their electric pace must be the closest to a human to travel back in time

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  • keeganpleasecomeback

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #4

    watching them run could well be mistaken for a picture

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  • JoshNufc91

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #5

    dont want either, maybes mendes on loan for cover but thats it.

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  • Dan157

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #6

    If we buy Barry Ferguson then by the end of his time with us not even the scrap man will take him. I would rather we bring in some young unknown player who we think might be good as with Ferguson we know what we are getting. And as for Mendes, £6 million!!!!!!!! For What! They payed 3 for him not long ago. You would think he had just single handedly won them the SPL. I hate Rangers. How many times have they ripped teams from the premiership off with their inflated prices for average players.

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  • craig chisholm

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #8

    why are we only looking at buying shit players?? where is the ambition of our club these days – the fizzy league i reackon. we would be better off with smith in midefield than either fo these two donkeys – and that is saying something.

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  • Magpie Neil

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #9

    We should not be buying old players from a poorer league. How is that gonna help us survive this season?

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  • Dan157

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #10

    Ryan Toon

    If either of them offer upwards of £6 million Ashley will do a deal. We payed about £5.5 million for him and Ashley as we know with his attempted sale of the club will refuse anything that leaves him at a loss.

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  • Sav

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #11

    Where’s the ambition of the owner?
    Where’s the transfer budget?

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  • Dan157

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #12

    craig chisholm

    It’s all we can afford and it’s all we can attract. In the eyes of people other than the supporters we are a sh*t club.

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  • Rowntree

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #13

    i see NUFC.com are saying we are after riise again does anyone know anymore info on this

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  • RyanToon

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #14

    id love riise to sign

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  • RyanToon

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #15

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4767972,00.html

    perhaps sly denis has made an enquiry, but sadly as we never get told anything,well never know

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  • Rowntree

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM

    Comment #16

    defo riise is awesome .hope we hurry up and get a few players in like coz we always seem to wait right till the end of transfer windows before we get players in and we need them in now coz we are down to the bare bones

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  • Bill F (Original)

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #17

    Only two words to say on these as signings.

    NO, NO, NO, NO, NO,NO, oh sorry thats more than two but you can repeat as often as you feel is necessary.

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  • StevieA

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #18

    Riise would be fantastic if true. Good in defence and even better going forward and having long ranged shots and free kicks.

    Hope this is a permanent signing as Riise and Beye as our first choice full backs might just do the trick.

    Would like to see N’Zogbia go but I wouldn’t sell Barton for less than £5 million. Even then I would want to replace him with a similar player to give Guthrie and possibly Ferguson some competition. Ideally someone better than Guthrie to take some pressure off him.

    It seems we are making a lot of enquiries and that’s healthy. I don’t believe in saying how much you have to spend because clubs will hold us to ransom, haven’t we learned anything from the past? It’s much more shrewd this way.

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  • StevieA

    Jan 9, 2009 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #19

    I have to say I hope we are in for Elano! Great utility player who could play on the right wing, and in support (or even a 2nd forward).

    Some of you say Elano isn’t the player he was but I don’t believe that for a second he is still a very good player. You don’t lose it overnight I just think Man City don’t play good enough football away from home, also Elano or Robinho. You can’t have both.

    We could play Elano with someone with an engine in midfield. Or perhaps on the right with Jonas on the left? Why not? Would allow him to get forward.

    He wouldn’t cost the earth and would sell a lot of shirts. I would sign him in an instant, he’s a very talented player. New challenge could be what he needs, don’t try and change him just play him in home games and watch him go (a lot like Beardsley).

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  • chuck

    Jan 9, 2009 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #20

    FERGUSON, NO,NO,NO,NO, NO……………..!

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  • chuck

    Jan 9, 2009 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #21

    Is this a sick joke, dont want ANY Ranger players.
    Take McGeady to replace the Zog though.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 9, 2009 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #22

    Why does this Rangers link keep comin gup everyday?

    If owt was to be done then it would be done. We have not even been linked with any offers/declined.

    Man Citey
    Manure
    Bolton
    Wigan
    Arsenal
    West Ham
    Reading
    Birmingham

    to name a few have either done a deal or declined an offer.

    At least it proves that they are offerring etc. What news from our team. A rejection is sign we are going in for something.

    Forgot tottenham in that list. Dafoe – the most stupid piece of transfer non-sense this year.

    They and Man Citey will be the proof that big money signing work or dont.

    I love braggig rights over the spuds (mainly due to AO) and it would pee me off if they finish above we!

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #23

    Riise has been poor for 3 seasons.

    As for Ferguson, he is probably the worst player we could sign this window.

    Alan Smith is better in central mid.

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  • StevieA

    Jan 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #24

    Tom_Toon I have noticed you say a lot of players are rubbish or poor. Such as

    Riise
    Bentley
    Ferguson
    Elano (I am sure you said he wouldn’t be a good signing and hasn’t been in form)
    Mido?

    I might be wrong with 1 or 2 of those because I am going from memory but Bentley is far from rubbish, looks at how well he played at Blackburn and how many assists he made.

    Riise can still be a great signing for us. As can Ferguson. You don’t have to be the best player in the world to be a good signing. Riise could recapture his form with the right move.

    Bentley I would have tomorrow no problem at all. Spurs are hardly setting the world alight lately are they? I think that has affected him a lot because they haven’t been playing down the flanks much at all. Bentley is as good as Shawn Wright Phillips, no better because he creates more.

    I am getting a little tired of fellow supporters saying he will be rubbish, why are we signing him and what transfer budget have we got? Where is the ambition? For gods sake just because a player loses his form doesn’t mean he is rubbish, it could just be a confidence thing.

    Form is temporary and class is permanent.

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  • StevieA

    Jan 9, 2009 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #25

    Alan Smith is better in midfield? Than who?

    Alan Smith isn’t good enough for Newcastle United anymore. He has lost his pace, and his bottle a little bit. He also doesn’t contribute enough to be in the team ahead of Guthrie or Barton for that matter. Ferguson is 10 times the player Alan Smith is in midfield.

    I think Ferguson is getting a lot of un-warranted criticism. Remember as soon as he went to Blackburn he broke his leg and Blackburn were a poor team then. Souness was in charge!

    As for how he is doing at Rangers maybe he just wants a new challenge?

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  • Pete

    Jan 9, 2009 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #26

    If Tom_Toon’s said that I’d say he’s spot on.
    As for your point regarding confidence Stevie, It’s surely one place you should NOT be going if you’re lacking and that’s Newcastle. We’ll wreck even the best of them.

    When it comes to A Smith I agree though, he’s an absolute disaster…

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 9, 2009 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #27

    I want Mido and I said Elano is amazingly inconsistent, not poor.

    I hate Alan Smith, he is by far the worst player at the club and even worse than 80% of the reseves but Barry Ferguson is worse. He is absolute shoit.

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  • StevieA

    Jan 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM

    Comment #28

    Pete – Well everyone has their own opinions so I can respect it. I suppose the proof will be in the pudding if/when these players sign for us. I think any of the players we have been linked with so far would improve the squad and in most cases the first team. We don’t have much strength in depth at all these days.

    Well yes and no with the confidence point. As our team get’s stronger we will win more games at home and this will breed confidence. The club needs to show it’s intent though before this can happen, I dare say they know this though. We need a boost and soon.

    Tom_Toon – Elano has been inconsistent lately I agree but let’s face it so have Man City. In fact they have struggled away from home which is why they are not a million miles away from us. A change of club would do wonders for Elano and I will say whoever signs him will have a real bargain.

    Ferguson is not worse than Alan Smith. For one thing he has numerous caps for Scotland and has been captain many times too. I think he is very underrated but we shall see if he signs. I just hope our supporters don’t be too negative before they see him play. I think a few will be surprised at how good he can be, he sees things and can play a nice ball. Can defend well and can score a few goals too. Reminds me of Gary Speed a lot. Not the best player in the world but effective.

    Smith is one thing we can all agree on. Not good enough fullstop.

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  • brutooooon

    Jan 9, 2009 at 11:56 PM

    Comment #29

    Barry Ferguson is a joke…i rather play zoggy or coloccini or even cacap in midfield that signing barry ferguson

    He is from rangers, rangers only have one opposition – celtic

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  • Sydney_Toon

    Jan 10, 2009 at 5:33 AM

    Comment #30

    i agree with ur last comment Tom_Toon

    Mido 😀
    smith 🙁
    Mendes:)
    Ferguson :0(

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