Newcastle Would Swap Given For Johnson and Onouha


The Sunday Sun is reporting today that Newcastle United have flatly turned down Manchester City’s opening bid for Shay Given, but have gone back and asked for midfielder Michael Johnson and cash in part-exchange.

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Michael Johnson – excellent 20 year-old Man City midfielder

The youngster doesn’t turn 22 years old until next month and he would be a terrific acquisition for Newcastle, along with 22 year old defender Nedum Onuoha, and if they can get a deal like that from City, Newcastle would no doubt be willing to do a straight player swap for their unsettled goalkeeper. Michael has already played a couple of times already for the England Under-21 side.

We think that could well be the case but would Man City be willing to let go two of their best youngsters for a goalkeeper they hardly need, with Joe Hart coming on well at Eastlands?  We think not.

Joe Kinnear is said to be unhappy  City’s low £4M bid for Given, but that is just an opening gambit on City’s side, and a straight swap between Johnson and Onuoha for Given would be hard for the Tyneside club to turn down.

Both players fit the profile of players the Newcastle club would want to sign, but we don’t think Mark Hughes is daft enough to do a deal like this, which would certainly see Given leave Tyneside, if it could be struck.

Of course West Ham would also like Johnson, as part of Scott Parker’s proposed move to Eastlands, but City’s 20-year-old would prefer a move north rather than south, or so the Sunday Sun is reporting.

Johnson was rewarded with a new five-year contract last summer but he has been out with injuries this season,and of course another youngster, Stephen Ireland has been City’s best player this season.

Newcastle have already been linked with  22-year-old Onuoha, their versatile defender who can play anywhere across the back four, and has played with Stephen Taylor on the England Under-21 side.

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563 comments so far

  • Soren

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #1

    Given for Johnson and Onuoha would be a great deal. We would bolster our thin squad in defence and midfield, and we still have Harper/Krul/Forster at GK. I would take it.

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  • MarkO

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #2

    Swap Given for Johnson, Onuoha, Sturridge adn 2m.

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  • That would be a good deal for us but like you say i cant see Manchester City doing that. We would lose a player in a position where we are strong and fill in 2 positions where are thin on the ground. Wont be commenting further on this as it is all speculation and nothing to prove we have asked them for these two players.

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  • scottish mag

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #4

    ok ok throw in elano too nd u ave a deal

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  • NE1

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #5

    I think this is the sort of deal we sholud look for if Given wants to leave.
    We’d get maybe 10 mil for him maximum – although he’s worth more – which we’d need to re invest in other areas anyway. Why not?

    Harper is a ready made replacement who on his day is as good – and if he had had a constant run in the team for a season or two he’d be englands number 1.

    Johnson for me.

    Harper
    Beye Collocini Bassong Riise
    Jonas Johnson ?? Duff
    Martins Ashton

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  • Tom4Nufc

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #6

    Personally, Johnson, Sturridge, and 5m or something would be preferable as owen is off on his bike at the end of the season no doubt.

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  • Ross

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #7

    I wouldnt be happy losing Shay, but these are the sort of deals where you’d just have to accept it, because they’re near enough too good to turn down. I dont think however, that even Man City would be stupid enough to go for something like this.
    Along with that, isnt Johnson injured with no idea of a return date, and a raging alcoholic?! he’ll probably head down here for the nightlife man.

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  • Toon_Sydney

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #8

    Those 2 for given would be great but, arent we close to gettin riise????
    Harper Krul and foster are brilliant and ole sodelborg is growing as a player so were good in that department.

    The real question is do they want to come to tyneside? how will they react

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  • TonyGreenSupreme

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #9

    Sounds like it would be a good deal, however Johnson has a current hip injury which has failed to heal all season. Young Tom_Toon reckons Johnson is an alcoholic, just what we need………

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  • Toonmadtom

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #10

    I dont want Given to go but if we could do a deal like that we would be stupid to turn it down. i also think we should put a bid in for Elano. i really do doubt this is true though

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #11

    HE HAS POTENTIAL AND IF HE CAN FULFILL IT HE WILL BE BRILLIANT

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #12

    sorry for capitals

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  • TonyGreenSupreme

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #13

    We are in dire need of a creative CM/AM.

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  • CLINT FLICK

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #14

    Lets just do it.

    Howay, get on with it.

    Cheers Shay, but bye.

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  • CLINT FLICK

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #15

    We need to get rid now while hes still worth something.

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  • Toonmadtom

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #16

    Does anybody no how much we could get Elano for? i really do rate him

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  • bakerman

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #17

    i say straight swap for johnson & elano

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  • reillers

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #18

    This is a joke, last night they were saying that City weren’t going after Given any more, others were saying they were going for Colocini because he was cheaper.
    Can we please wait for some actual fact.

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  • pdidy

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #19

    I would rather keep Given. Since when has selling your best players been good for a club!

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  • workyticket

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #20

    Johnson has lots of natural ability, however he has developed a severe nightclub problem while out of the game with a bad pelvic injury. He could be great, however he would be a risky signing due to his current problems.

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  • bakerman

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #21

    or a straight purchase of johnson for 4m wouldn’t be bad either

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  • cooldj

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #22

    Given and Owen

    for

    Johnson, Hart, Sturridge and Onouha

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  • TonyGreenSupreme

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #23

    Toonmadtom ,
    Elano cost Citeh £8m!!!! – your guess is as good as mine as to how much it would cost to prize him away. There were some Citeh lads on hear the other day and they stated that Elano has a terrible attitude, sulks etc………..

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  • Dragonera

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #24

    reillers

    I think you mean Cudicini mate 🙂

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  • reillers

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #25

    LOL!! Ya.

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  • TonyGreenSupreme

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #26

    IMO Citeh can also have Collocini………..(To slow for EPL)

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  • Toonmadtom

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #27

    I would guess Elano is worth around 5-6 million,

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  • The_Legend_Of_Jonas

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #28

    Would like to see Elano here + 7-8 Mil for Given..

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  • Ross

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #29

    i’ve criticised colo for one or two things but to sell him would be ridiculous. He cost us double figures less than 6 months ago, talk about writing somebody off prematurely!

    I’ve also considered Elano, but Spyro made the good point that he seems the type of player who will be fantastic when all is going well, but will sulk and give less than 100% when things are going badly. Citeh fans on here, have said that his attitude is suspect. At the moment, the one thing we need more than anything else, is a group of lads who actually want to play for us, and take pride in wearing the black and white.

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  • AmSickOfThis

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #30

    Would any of the city players want to come to us in our current state ?

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  • Fog-on-the-Tyne

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #31

    Sadly it would appear that we are going to be relegated, the team are demonstrating no cohesion or intelligence to their play, indeed, rather similar to Wimbledon of old. A swift kick and a long ball up top to a big man “Carroll or Shola”. Hard to believe that in the small tenure Keegan had second time around he had the team playing fantastic entertaining football once again (first game of the season against Man Utd a distinct memory). Keegan predicted this behaviour of Ashley, and in my opinion stood up for the club and its supporters – therefore with a little bit of luck, once we are regulated he will hopefully part with his little play toy (NUFC) and allow us as fans to once again take pride in our club.

    Closely examine our squad and assess what players are leaving, who are we replacing them with..? It’s a sad time, and I can’t help but feel contempt for all of you who have and continue to support the regime of Ashley and cohort.

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  • Dragonera

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #32

    Ross

    Glad to hear my words didn’t go in one ear and out the other 😀

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  • Toon1978

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #33

    Don’t think this will happen lads not if Hughes has any sense. Given is a world class keeper but they have already put a pathetic bid in for Given so obviously they don’t rate him as much as NUFC do. Given is now 32 i think and a swap for these two youngsters would be excellent but i don’t think Hughes would go for that.

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  • bakerman

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #34

    Collocini hasn’t performed bad for his first season so far. He’s strong and dependable – hardly ever gets injured (as we see from his ever-present place in our team & when he was back in Spain). He’s still learning the EPL and will only get better. Besides, his attitude is amazing and he seems to always be quite positive. He and Bassong are the defense we’ve been crying out for years. With better fullbacks and a decent holding midfielder, we’ll see just how great Collocini really is!!

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  • Toonfan1

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #35

    Onouha isn’t that good. He’s a decent player and the only decent thing about him is that he can play across the back 4 which is suppose what we need. Beye, Enrique, Coloccini and Bassong are all better then Onouha. Wouldn’t mind Michael Johnson though 🙂 Canny player

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  • Toonfan1

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #36

    which I suppose is what we need**

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  • bakerman

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #37

    Fog-on-the-Tyne its pretty easy to see things very down right now. We certainly have to admit we’re in a relegation scrap. But its also vital to recognise that Kinnear is doing a decent job and the last thing we need is further instability at the club. Also, the players like him and if anything he’s kept their heads up and instilled a fighting spirit amongst the lads..even when we’re losing, we still put up a fight!!

    Re: the current squad…I think we have the makings of success. We are fine in the keepers dept even if we lose Given. All we need are 2 fullbacks in defence as Colo & Bassong are awesome. We need a CM or two for midfield. And perhaps a decent striker like Boyd (cheap yet effective). We must remember that with attackers like Jonas and Martins in our squad, we can always have hope.
    Keep the faith

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #38

    Rather have the money.

    Johnson has been injured all season, ‘injured’.

    He is actually and alcoholic and cant beat in and is constantly in rehab.

    Dont want him.

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  • bakerman

    Jan 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #39

    Has anyone else heard anything about Jenas being put up for sale by Tottenham. If so, I wouldnt mind if we put in a cheeky bid for him. I know he didnt leave under the nicest circumstances but the lads got ability and would certainly improve our midfield.
    What do you guys think?

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  • Ross

    Jan 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #40

    After having a swift glance through one or two citeh blogs, none of them seem to have the time of day for Elano anymore.
    Reoccuring themes seem to be a poor attitude, an undermining of management, a quite blatant lack of effort in some games and poor form. Maybe he just doesnt like being at citeh and thats why he’s behaving the way he (supposidly) is, but from what they’re saying they cant wait to see the back of him!

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