Carroll, Enrique and Taylor Miss Cup Tie Through Injury


The injury jinx on Newcastle United is again rearing its ugly head, as we are told that Andy Carroll (hamstring), Jose Enrique (muscle) and Steven Taylor (calf) are all injured and will not play in tomorrow night’s 3rd round FA Cup replay with Hull City.

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Jose Enrique – muscle in jury will keep him out of tomorrow’s game

The injuries were picked up today during training so we don’t want to sound like a broken record, but we must understand why so many of our players keep picking up these injuries.

For many seasons now we have collected more injuries than any other Premiership team, and there’s just got to be some reason for this – be it the pitches or something. The Newcastle club must start investigating this – because it continues to cause us serious problems with our player always out.

Andy has been ruled out of the game tomorrow night because he has a tight hamstring and whear that Shola Ameobi will not be fit to replace him.

Kinnear said today:

“Andy is now injured as well and we now have 11 key players out.”

“We have a depleted squad, but whatever side we put out we’ll be looking to win.”

“I have drafted in six Academy players and I may have to start with some of them.”

Kinnear has also confirmed that Oba Martins will be out for a month and Shola Ameobi has also been ruled out of tomorrow night’s tie.

11 senior players now out through injury – that’s just completely ridiculous. With both full backs out we’re not sure who Kinnear will draft in.

Looks like David Edgar, who can play in either full back position, will come in at right back, and maybe Charles N’Zogbia will need to play again at left back.

But we remember what happened against Liverpool when we had some of our back four missing –  and this puts  a bit of a damper on our chances of getting through tomorrow night’s tie  against Hull City – not good news at all.

What is going on with all these injuries?

Kinnear must be tearing his hair out – and he’s still got some left too, but of course he’s only been in this job a few months.   😀

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33 comments so far

  • safferman

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #1

    get Ranger in, i have a feeling about him…

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  • Pons Aelius

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #2

    Looks like Xisco or Ranger could get a game…

    But knowing Kinnear, Duff will go up front

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  • DURhamTOON

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #3

    2 expensive loan signings (Jo and ?). Lovenkrands should sign until the end of the year on Friday, all should be available for the weekend. This is on SSN Kinnears words not mine.

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  • Danish_Magpie

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #4

    Given the current injuries, I am quite sure Joe will line up as follows:

    …………………….Given………………………

    Edgar……..Colo…….Bassong…N’Zogbia

    Jonas……..Guthrie…:Butt…………Duff

    …………….Owen………..Xisco……………

    It would be good to see what Xisco can do in 90 mins. I am still on the fence with this lad, not in either camp, because I just have not seen enough of him.

    Harper, Kadar, Donaldson, Donninger, Godsmark, LuaLua, Ranger on the bench.

    I would like to see Kadar, Ranger and especially Lua-Lua on at some point but I think the above is how JK will start at least. This would be a good game for the youngsters to get a run-out given our situation. In the PL and when people are fit, we need more experience.

    ps. Zoggy, bugger off. Hope Lyon come in with a decent bid.

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  • Girth

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #5

    GIVE THE KIDS A GO MAN!
    The seasons a write off anyway, i for one dont give a damn about the FA cup, stay in the league, and ill be happy!

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  • Flan

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #6

    This might not be as bad as it seems. The young lads that come in to the team tomorrow will be out to impress and it’ll be intresting to see how far away from the first team they are. We could be in for a pleasant suprise..

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  • stu

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #7

    doesnt really matter we shuld have messi playing for us by sat.

    maybe jk meant that he wasnt involved with his national team as Messi has an agreement to miss the friendlies v scotland and france.

    may aswell go and get his name on my shirt, its practically a done deal.

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  • pdidy

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #8

    11 first team players out with injury???

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  • Girth

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #9

    DURhamTOON

    If you go on to the Chronicle web site:
    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/01/13/kinnear-hopeful-of-landing-peter-lovenkrands-72703-22683301/
    it gives you the exact quotes, one Italian international and one Argie international who are both not playing in their teams, so wont be Jo.
    Intersting what he said about Appiah as well, the lure of London strikes again ehhh…….

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #10

    Not bothered about the FA cup…if 11 first team injuries don’t force Ashley to invest we are in serious trouble.

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  • Doocey

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #11

    Typical, something is up witht his club, cursed or something, no other team has so many f**ing injuries!
    Would’ve liked to seen Carroll again but “The Time Is Nile” want to see him play, and Xisco too.

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  • Fostino

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #12

    has appiah signed for spurs yet tho???

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  • Prince Bassong

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #13

    I’d like to see:

    Given
    Edgar, Colo, Bassong, Kadar
    Jonas, Guthrie, Butt, Duff
    Xisco, Owen

    The midfield is the most important area of the pitch and we can avoid changing it and so we should. Edgar can fit in at right back ok and Kadar should be given a chance to show whether we actually need a LB soon or not. Xisco just needs a chance.

    We can bring on some kids later in the match once things have settle a bit, maybe LuaLua on to give Jonas a rest, and likewise Ranger for Owen.

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  • JonnyNufc

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #14

    Guys if you look through the injury history on Physio room it makes some seriously shocking reading.

    Since the 2003-2004 season we have reported more muscle injurys – specifically hamstring than any other side in the premier league.

    EVERY SEASON.

    For example:

    1: 2003-2004 season we reported 21 injurys…joint in 5th place in terms of injurys reported so not bad.

    – However 11 were hamstring strains. The next club down was birmingham city who had 5. Average per club was about 3.

    – We had most muscle injurys in general with 14…next club down had 11..Average was about 7.

    2: 2004-2005 season we reported 29 injurys…joint in 3rd place.

    – Again we had the most hamstring strains with 7…Average about 4.

    – Once again we had the most muscle injurys with 15…Average was about 7.

    3: 2005-2006 season we reported 35 injurys. 2nd place behind Birm.

    – Again the most Hamstring strains with 13…next club down had 8. The average was 3/4.
    – Again the most muscle injurys with 19…again large majority of clubs had under 8.

    4: 2006-2007 season we reported 39 injurys. 1st place finally

    – Joint top on Hamstring with Arsenal on 9. Majority had under 4.

    – Easily most muscle injurys with 20. Next club down had 13…Most had under 9

    etc etc etc

    Something is seriously messed up with our training pitch and it is constantly fcking up our seasons.

    Nothing is being done about it atall…..every season its getting worse..it has been for a long long time ??

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  • Danish_Magpie

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #15

    It does reassure me a little bit at least that Kinnear at least KNOWS of Appiah and wanted to sign him, even if he didn’t get it done. In some strange way, that makes me feel a bit better.

    Still, if Spurs don’t take up the option on him, SIGN HIM! If they do, someone must be available from them. Prob. wont be a popular shout, but I say go in for Huddlestone. He has shed some pounds and he would be a big tall presence in DM/CM, has a strong shot on him, and I see definete potential in him.

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  • stu

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #16

    Beye Taylor Caccapa Enrique

    Barton Smith Gonzalez Martins

    Carrol Viduka

    Sub Ameobi

    Tells its own story, the fact we can play 11 players is something

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  • Danish_Magpie

    Jan 13, 2009 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #17

    JonnyNUFC,

    They did try to change the training pitch (I tihnk under Roeder’s reign) they moved somewhere else but with no effect – injuries kept coming.

    Something in the water??

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  • Doocey

    Jan 13, 2009 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #18

    Heard he’s signgi for us, New article on my site lads, just click me name 🙂
    Comment on your thoughts if you please 🙂

    As for the injuries, wrecking my head they are!

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  • joonzy

    Jan 13, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #19

    Godsmark on the right wing please, that lad is so fast it’s untrue, but unlike alan o brien he can deliver it on a plate every time as well as being able to finish. Best young player at the club.

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  • JonnyNufc

    Jan 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #20

    Unless its the boots we’re using or something, i dont know.

    Theres an obvious cause somewhere though, it isnt a coincidence.

    Every season we have more injurys, every season more of them are muscle injurys.

    Perhaps our physios are just crap now. I remember someone saying we barely had any injurys under Big Sam, wonder what he changed…

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  • pubcat

    Jan 13, 2009 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #21

    In a way, I’d like JK to have his hand forced to blood a couple of our best youngsters. That way, suddenly it may seem that our squad has more options (e.g – Carroll after one decent game).

    I wish JK would wash his hair! On interviews it looks like he uses Castrol GTX.

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  • Doocey

    Jan 13, 2009 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #22

    I have come to the conclusion that we aren’t doing a vigorous warm up routine and getting unjured during intensity match at training. It’s my opinion that they don’t spend enought time on warm ups and just want to play football.

    It would make pretty perfect sense really…

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  • Darling27

    Jan 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #23

    I hope the kids get a run out.

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  • DURhamTOON

    Jan 13, 2009 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #24

    Cheers Girth mate

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  • Shanghaitoon

    Jan 13, 2009 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #25

    I’ve heard that the tea lady and the boot boy are available. both can play anywhere on the pitch. not football, but they can play … 🙁

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  • awesome_fumaca

    Jan 13, 2009 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #26

    Isn’t Tozer a RB? Would prefer to see him there tomorrow than Edgar, who is useless (but, to be fair, probably better than Taylor at RB).

    Also, stick Ranger up front- what’s the worst that could happen?!

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  • Intergalactic Milkman

    Jan 13, 2009 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #27

    Testing times. I’d have Kadar at RB (not sure if he’s left or right footed) and Tozer at LB. Xisco up from with Owen. Owen off on 60 mins then chuck Ranger in the deep end (providing things are goin well). N’gobliar in CM instead of Butt. Although it might be better to keep N’gobliar fresh for t’weekend? (if he’s still with us).

    If N’gobliar is played at LB we’re f****d.

    I’m strangely excited to see how some of the kids will perform on the big stage though.

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  • NUFC

    Jan 13, 2009 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #28

    There a injury crisis with us all the time. Ashley doesn’t want to spend on players (unless they are from tne bargin bucket) then he better start putting money into sorting out the pitch and training methods or this will keep on happening

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  • Ross

    Jan 13, 2009 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #29

    Jonny-thats interesting mate, i (like every other toon fan on the planet) have always known that we’ve had a horrendous injury list, but i’ve never seen it on paper. It does not provide impressive reading and i fully agree with you, there is something seriously wrong going on behind the scenes.
    I dunno if its the training pitches, our training methods, not enough training, too much (our performances would say this isnt an option however) but there’s a problem and it needs to be sorted immediatly. We go into every season thinking “if we can just keep that injury list down”. We should have the majority of players we pay and employ at our disposal week in week out. Fact is, we have the majority of our squad injured, week in week out. Its not even their fault, god knows whats going on.

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  • Piers

    Jan 13, 2009 at 7:09 PM

    Comment #30

    BRING UP RANGER FOR GODNESS SAKE!!!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 13, 2009 at 8:48 PM

    Comment #31

    Just watched JFK press conference who has just contradicted himself somewhat. He must generate money from sales to get people in – but have agreed expensive loans for italian and argentinian.

    Make your mind up dude?

    Lost out on Appiah to spuds apparently.

    Says that Zogs agent is releasing all the press to show him around.

    11 injuries – FFS its a joke. WHAT THE F**K IS GOING ON AT NUFC TRAINING GROUND?

    Are they horsing around, being to rough, not warming or strecthing out or cooling down?

    Its a message to the rest of the league and Hull – we is in the poop!!!!

    Anyway – Edgar and poss Lua Lua to be on the pitch tomorrow – for me thats ok as will support any person in our shirt tomorrow.

    NOT HAPPY!

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  • Doocey

    Jan 13, 2009 at 10:02 PM

    Comment #32

    Ranger has to make some sort of appearance surely.

    Lua Lua too,

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  • jackie moon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 2:50 AM

    Comment #33

    i think the main reason for so many injuries is our lack of squad depth and no confidence in youngsters.

    alot of players play with niggles which are made worse hence the muscle tissue injuries.

    for a long time, managers have risked players instead of giving the young guys a chance and allowing players time to recoup.

    no recovery means small problems worsen…

    plus we have rotten luck with knees and achilles etc…owen, barton, smith, duke.

    not much you can do about them.

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