Joe Kinnear is getting worried about the lack of progress in the January transfer window, just like Kevin Keegan was in the summer, and Joe has called an urgent meeting with the Newcastle Board – and he wants it to take place in Newcastle – where the team is.
Joe Kinnear – worried about lack of transfer progress
With 11 players looking to miss tomorrow night’s FA Cup 3rd round replay, the injury situation at Newcastl;e is becoming more than critical, and believes that both owner Mike Ashley and Managing Director Derek Llambias, who are both not football men, don’t understand the gravity of the situation.
Newcastle are up to to 11th place, but 4 of those places are on goal difference, and we’re still just 3 points off the bottom three.
Kinnear was asked whether this was the worst case scenario and he said:
“That’s why we have the meeting. It was called very hastily after I explained on Monday the difficult position we are in. I said that we need to act and act quickly.”
“I will make that argument. I have brought it forward because of the urgency of the situation.”
“The chairman [Llambias] was at home and I said, ‘No, you need to come in. Come up tonight, we need to talk and get cracking.”
“In the position we’re in, if you lose two or three games you can suddenly find yourself in the bottom three. I am not sure if they [the board] understand that already but I will make them aware of it.”
We seem to have tied up Danish winger Peter Lovenkrands through the end of the season, and that deal should be signed and sealed on Friday.
We’re also close to bringing in two loan signings, one Argentine and one Italian according to reports – and Joe believes both of these signings could be in place by the end of the week.
Kinnear is also hoping to sell one player – probably Spanish striker Xisco – so he can bring in another defender, which we would hope will be a left back. It will be interesting if Joe plays Xisco tomorrow night, and risk him being injured.
Newcastle have successive home games against Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester United in March, and that will be tough, especially if we play anything like we did against Liverpool.
Joe continued:
“There are some stiff games coming up and we would like to be in the safety zone when they come up,”
This is a very good move by Joe, and it shows he’s taking control of things, which someone needs to do at the club, and if it’s Dennis Wise’s job to arrange the transfers, both incoming and outgoing, it could well be Dennis who is dragging his feet.
Comments welcome.
262 responses so far ↓
1 magsie1 // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Nice one Joe! Give em Hell M8!
2 Toon_Ksk is back! // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Weeee~!!! We need transfers, tear his door down if you have to JK!!
3 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Its a bloody shambles yet again.
WHy the hell are we doing this now. Its nearly the 14th of January.
I hope JFK has a ‘rant’ at them all and puts it on the line in leymans terms!!!
F’off Lambiarse – your a joke of a Chairman. How can they sit back and as for MA not giving any cash (apparently) – nails and coffins Mike.
If things dont transpire there will be murders on at SJP.
4 Big Dave // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Hi Lads can anyone imagine JK saying “The chairman [Llambias] was at home and I said, ‘No, you need to come in. Come up tonight, we need to talk and get cracking.” to DL could you imagine what DLs reply would have been to that.
5 beyethegreat // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM
does big fat mike ever learn or does he want us to be relegated
go on joe
you canot get through to this board
does any 1 else get reminded of a brick wall when they think of our board?
i just cannot believe they would be happy to let this happen
6 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM
This is Ashley’s chance to make up for some of his mistakes!
If he gives Joe a nice sum of cash it could work out a win win situation for all of us.
We get new player, stay up and Ashley FINALLY realises managers must be given a certain amount to spend
7 barcode // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Even if we stay up it would not be surprising for Joe to resign even if Ash wants him to stay. Sub 40k crowds next season easily.
8 Big Dave // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Beyethegreat i find it really hard to believe just how much we have changed. I also find it really hard to believe that MA didnt make it a priority to get a decent signing in in the 1st week to show that he wants the “best for us”. or maybe players just dont want to sign for us.
9 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Beyethegeat -
How can they (board) sit back and let the club get this bad.
WHAT IS MA DOING??? He is the owner/boss and can he not see what is happening or it it just a Saturday/Sunday thing when he wakes up and phones Lamearse – sorry Lambiarse and asks how his week has been.
At the end of the day – the 1st team is we bread and butter. It all happens in the prem league and I will, how do we put it, go for blood if we go down. Try selling we then you stupid fat numpty.
Give em hell Joe and use your tourettes son. Sod professionalism – tell em the way it is and ask the daft f’ers if they are BLIND!!!!!!!!
Sorry lads. Feel better I can ofload things to those who probably feel the same.
10 Fostino // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM
llambias get the fu*k out of your house and do your job you mug
11 AmSickOfThis // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM
we are in dire straights and after the feb home games could easily be bottom
12 OHurley // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Spot on, Joe! Keep it up, man! Let ‘em know what we need to do!!
13 MDS // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Go get ‘em Joe.
But this just goes to show how worthless the owner and Board are. How can they not see the situation???
Now he has sell players to get $4.5 million to make a signing???? Where is the investment???
Ashley OUT!!!!
14 Alex // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM
I hope he lays into LambiARSE and Ashley the same way he read the riot act to the scumbag reporters when he first came . Go on Joe lad kick ass . They need woke up
15 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Its right like Ashley in his statement on not selling the club quoted as saying.
“Drive the club forward in 2009″
so this is driving the club forward is it free transfers and loan deals.
16 MDS // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Go get ‘em Joe.
But this just goes to show how worthless the owner and Board are. How can they not see the situation???
Now he has sell players to get $4.5 million to make a signing???? Where is the investment???
What in God’s name does Llambias do for the club? Where is Wise???
Ashley OUT!!!!
17 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Agreed Alex – what they gonna do – sack him for telling the thruth.
I do hopw that some of the NUFC scan this blog (being the best that it is) and can see how much we all feel about the things from our end.
Its probably totally (well will be) from the teams point of view. Zog aside and I said this before, Given has already used his solicitor to stick his fingers upto the board and MA and the crowd got behind given and backed him.
If they got there stupid heads out of the London Times and opened their stupid eyes they would think: “ooooh our long serving keeper has had enough – maybe we should do something about it”. Chances are Lamearse sorry Lambiarse (said it wrong again) was like – “and?” Im in a nice office in London you are on a cold pitch in Newcastle. Pr**K of the highest.
18 MDS // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM
@Beye
You’re talking about an owner who spent 180M+ on the club without doing due dilligence!!!! Now he’s in over his head and we are stuck cuz no one beleive the club is worth that much.
The fool overpaid and now we are stuck with loans of players who can’t start for their clubs and need to sell 2 players to sign a serviceable LB.
I wish zog would keep his mouth shut but I don’t blame him for wanting to leave
19 beyethegreat // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Big Dave // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Beyethegreat i find it really hard to believe just how much we have changed. I also find it really hard to believe that MA didnt make it a priority to get a decent signing in in the 1st week to show that he wants the “best for us”. or maybe players just dont want to sign for us.
9 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Beyethegeat -
How can they (board) sit back and let the club get this bad.
WHAT IS MA DOING??? He is the owner/boss and can he not see what is happening or it it just a Saturday/Sunday thing when he wakes up and phones Lamearse – sorry Lambiarse and asks how his week has been.
At the end of the day – the 1st team is we bread and butter. It all happens in the prem league and I will, how do we put it, go for blood if we go down. Try selling we then you stupid fat numpty.
Give em hell Joe and use your tourettes son. Sod professionalism – tell em the way it is and ask the daft f’ers if they are BLIND!!!!!!!!
Sorry lads. Feel better I can ofload things to those who probably feel the same.
agreed
this board is like communicating with a 1 year old its like they hear what youre saying but cant take it in
i realise MA is doing things on the cheap but ffs this is taking the____
i will get slated for this but we should own the club
atleast we would get honesty integrity and hopefully some1 not too hard headed
it would be our luck to get some1 like MA at our club
20 stelstyl // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Regarding Lovenkrands, who has been released by Schalke 04, and his other potential recruits, Kinnear, who denied any interest in Nigel Quashie, the Birmingham City and Scotland midfield player, said: “It looks OK on Peter. I know his agent and he’s accepted an offer until the end of the season. There are two midfield players, one Argentine, one Italian. The loan fees for them are £350,000 and £400,000 until the end of the season because we weren’t in a position to pay what their clubs wanted to buy them.”
21 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:36 PM
MDS – JFK blamed Zogs agent for “touting” zog to other teams etc.
My view ZOG is accountable as his agent is his employee and therefore should take responsibility.
I have no doubt he will get booes tomorrow.
That will do two things. Spur him on to get the best out of him or buckle.
Hope the first thing.
Bet Phil Brown is laughing at we and will probably use a strong team
22 beyethegreat // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:37 PM
18 MDS // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM
@Beye
You’re talking about an owner who spent 180M+ on the club without doing due dilligence!!!! Now he’s in over his head and we are stuck cuz no one beleive the club is worth that much.
The fool overpaid and now we are stuck with loans of players who can’t start for their clubs and need to sell 2 players to sign a serviceable LB.
I wish zog would keep his mouth shut but I don’t blame him for wanting to leave
yeah i am talking about an owner who payed 180+ without due dilligence
i would like to comment but what can i say
23 beyethegreat // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:39 PM
ill just se what has happend after the window
24 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Imagine if I wake up to headlines tomorrow of – Kinnear resigns.
I would go mental! NMot only would it unstabilise teh team EVEN more, it would possible ruin any chances of signings we’re making at the moment!
Not going to happen though, Joe knows his job and Ashley knows that most fans are against him
25 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM
MDS
N’Zogbia is a spoilt little brat who doesn’t really know how lucky he is. He is a gobby little sh1t who needs his head slapped. There are thousands upon thousands of NUFC fans who have put up with this sh1t for years. Who does this little weasel think he is, he is nothing spectacular and if push comes to shove he could easily be replaced with someone who is just as good and appreciates what he has. Maybe NZOG wants to get up at 6am with me and finish work at 6pm for £300 a week. Maybe then he will see how much of a f*****g little brat he is and just thank his lucky stars he is doing something he loves doing and getting paid a bucket load for keeping us geordies entertained at a weekend. Letting us forget the stresses of work and enjoy the football. The little pr1ck really annoys me…miserable little sh1t that he is.
26 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Aye Doocey i would go mental if JK resigns
27 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM
JK deserves a bloody medal for putting up with mouthy little brats and a board that won’t back him aswell as an injury list as long as the river Tyne.
28 ToonAge DayDream // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM
We need a tall midfielder badly, I wouldn’t mind Jerko Leko from Monaco, he was quality while he was playing for Kiev. I don’t think he would cost alot either.
He’s really strong and has a good composed tempo to his passing and 50+ caps for Croatia, so has good experience.
29 pdidy // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Love this quote!
The chairman [Llambias] was at home and I said, ‘No, you need to come in. Come up tonight, we need to talk and get cracking.”
at F…ing home in London!
These are the people that are running our club!
30 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Toon1978 mate you have been spot on with ur post on N’Zognia tonight. the little twat doesnt know ho lucky he is
31 alanshearersdiscopants // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:47 PM
We cant blame any of our players if they want to leave this shambles of a club. The best thing Kinnear could do is get out as well before we drag him down with us. I hope he gives the fat bastard a right mouthful.
32 Alex // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM
I have a nasty feeling that , if we dont get the 2 loan signings in and ready to play before the Blackburn game , then Joe will walk after that game . Then we are Fu@ked
33 Fostino // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM
joe: what about the money from milner??
llambias: who’s milner, we never had a milner playing here!!!
joe: you crock!!
34 TonyGreenSupreme // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Excellent Post – We are all feeling the pain.
35 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Alanshearersdiscopants
That is the most depressing post i have EVER read on here. CHIN UP FELLA!!!!!!
36 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:51 PM
I read that MArtins oot for upto 6 weeks and mo was back in two weeks was it? Take it Oba is worse that MO was?
Nice one Fostino. Your forgot to use the word
“You F’ing voiceless crock!”
37 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:53 PM
If JFK walks – we are fckde bigstlye.
He wont as I do beleive he has the toon in his heart.
38 beyethegreat // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:54 PM
http://www.newcastle.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=139061
39 TonyGreenSupreme // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM
alanshearersdiscopants // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Its not us fans that will drag JFK down it’s the ineptitude of the board.
They have not got a clue how to run a football club, it goes from bad to worse.
40 Alex // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Toon1978 i think Lovenkrands is Nzogbias replacement . I think JK leaving him on the bench gave a sign off that he has had enough of him. Lets hope so and we get either good money for a replacement or a good swap deal . He is a little T#@t
41 barcode // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Most clubs want to see what the new tv deal is going to be and that won’t be sorted till April/May. That plus lower gates, banks charging EVERY business in the UK more for running an account and esp any overdraft or debt interest charges means that hopefully clubs smell the coffee and squeeze the overpaid players. Hard times for all clubs and in the summer RBS will want some money from the Pool, so they won’t be going on a spending spree.
Buying a player is going to be very difficult as who of quality would come, except an upcoming player but we need someone mentally tough for a relegation scrap.
Sheep’s Bladder needs to go though and i expect Ash to be here for a few years as no bank will put money into a bust business model which is what football is in the main.
Hoeness reckons the rumour is that Chelski are for sale.
Apologizes for the overlong rant.
42 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM
beyethegreat
Seen that mate, tbh i have never seen this kid play ooh hang on tell a lie i have seen him on you tube buts that’s nothing to go by really. But from what i have heard he is one hell of a player but a little on the ugly side lol his football must make up fpr his looks a little like BEARDO.
43 Ross // Jan 13, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Lovenkrands will be in by the blackburn game i think. We’ve offered him a deal, he will agree because he’s out of contract and we’ll be paying him a canny wedge. he will be eligible to play, yes?
As far as these two loan signings go, Kinnear said he was hoping to know whether they’ll be going ahead inside the next 48 hours? That means we’ll find out by thursday at the earliest, so should all go according to plan, does that mean they most probably wont be available for saturday?
To be honest i’m still completly up in the air regarding these transfers, i think the only one we can say is most probably going to go through in the near future, is Lovenkrands.
44 Fostino // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM
ashley’s plan to move newcastle forward is to……………………….move st james park to the capital!! he’s a plague, draining us dry!!
45 IrishMan // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Any links for TV or radio for tomorrow night’s game?
46 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Alex
Yeah i think he needs to be taught a lesson. I hope he lives to regret it IF he leaves. Look what happened Oliver Benard. Got to big for his boots moved onto other clubs and failed lol.
47 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Kaka being chased by Man Citeh.
Money bags baskets!!
48 Ross // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:02 PM
And as far as Nzogbia goes, he needs disciplinary measures if we’re not actually going to sell him. He’ll keep on mouthing off if he thinks he can get away with it, especially throughout Jan in the hope other clubs will respond to his pathetic begging and bid for him. Maybe he hasnt realised that the clubs he’s sending messages to, might not actually think he’s that good.
He did seem to change the game when he came on against WH however, which is frustrating. He seemed to be involved in everything we did going forward after he came on. However, he is not irreplaceable and seemingly has a horrendous attitude, an attitude we only a matter of weeks ago were under the impression had apparently changed. scratch that, we were under the illusion, his attitude had changed, because its quite clear he’s still a whining brat.
49 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Irish -
Radio – BBC Radio Newcastle or Century Radio.
JustinTV for links – come back on tomorrow and there will be loads.
50 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Adriano to tottenham rumour on SSN too – loan basis. Where do tottenham get the cash?
51 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM
SSN kaka in talks over city switch
52 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM
We play Millwall if we beat Hull tomorrow!
53 Waddles mullet // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Strange that inter want gareth bale!!!
54 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Waddles – didnt see that one like.
I think I hate spurs because they have cash and aint afraid to spend!
55 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM
I hope to god KAKA does not go to Man City. Why the hell would you leave a club like Milan in a beautiful part of the world winning countless trophies and playing in Europe every year for a club in a relegation battle……………………………….SH1T LOADS OF BRASS ON OFFER!!!!!!!!
56 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Why are so pesimistic?
Its not lika we’re bottom adrift 19th spot byt 4 points or anything! We’re in a decent position to be honest and you should look to get behind Kinnear and the players
57 The Real Entertainers // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Clever move by Joe.
We all now know that if we dont sign the right players and the right amount of players its down to Ashley and ‘That waste of space!’
Joe is asking for players / funds on the 13th of Jan;, almost half way through the window.
So clearly Mike has not been forthcoming with cash!
Was it so bad under Fat Freddy ?
58 RyanToon // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM
id rather lovenkrands than kaka lol
59 Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM
The debt under Fat Fred was probably crippled we for years!
60 MDS // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM
@Toon1978
Don’t get me worng- I’d sell Zog tomorrow if someone offerer 6-8M
61 IrishMan // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Toon Graeme,
Thanks for that. Hopefully roll on Millwall at home after tomorrow night.
62 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Yeah and Ashley is still trying to pay that debt, Shepard kept digging a hole!
63 The Real Entertainers // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:14 PM
I thought we had no debt as a football club, Ashley paid it all off!
Ashley is debtless and clueless
64 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:16 PM
We have a huge debt yet to decrease. Ashley pured £110m just to reduce the debt somewhat, if he’s still trying to reduce it (which I’m hoping he is) then that could explain the financial cuts elsewhere (Transfers)
65 ToonAge DayDream // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Toon Graeme // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Adriano to tottenham rumour on SSN too – loan basis. Where do tottenham get the cash?
From suckers………..Taino,Chimbonda……..Sunderland
66 tino97 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:20 PM
A lot of angry people here tonight! Rightly so!
What are they doing to our club??
Firstly, N’Zogbia…Jumped up little sh!t. Somebody needs to put him in his place. Show a bit of backbone and professionalism. You are embarassing yourself and more importantly the club. If you don’t want to be here, hand in a transfer request and bugger off.
Second… Llambias and Ashely. Disapearing in the transfer window. Sounds like Joe had to force a meeting with the chairman and to ram home the fact that we are in the sh!t. Don’t they know this already? Do they know about anything going on at the club?
Nobody from the club talks to the fans. It seems to me that Joe is the only one who tries. Though some time he contradicts himself, at least he talks to us. God knows what he is being told by the board. They have just left it to him. I wasn’t too happy when Joe was given the job, but he seems very passionate about doing the right thing and at least he is giving it a shot, and showing some balls. Maybe Ashley and Llambias should take note.
Hope things can turn around soon. But can’t see it happening. Hopefully these loan signings are decent and some of our injured players come back soon, and start performing.
67 Fostino // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM
doocey
i was sure he cleared the dedts the club had, hence why it’s worth 240 million now, not 140 when ashley bought it
i think the cutbacks are to do with getting a surplus annual cashflow
of course i may be completely wrong
68 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM
tono97
Well said mate.
69 The Real Entertainers // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Tino
my feelings are same mate.
Very frustrating times.
I dont undertsand the lack of communication. Been going on for a while now and if he listens to the fans he would know we what it to change.
So i can only assume he either does not listen to the fans or is unwilling to change a simple request for the fans!
70 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Sorry mate i mean tino97.
71 OHurley // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:25 PM
So I know this is quite random, but just thought I’d share-
I was flippin’ through some YouTube videos the other day and came across a couple interviews with Beardo. Good God it’s hard to understand what he said. Especially for a non-native like me. I mean, I know my Geordie slang, but for God’s sake… I can barely understand a word he said. Is it true that they used to subtitle him on the tele?
72 Fostino // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:25 PM
to be honest i was in a good mood after hearing joe’s earlier comments about players coming in (even if they are loans), but the latest comments just prove to me that ashley nd dat mug llambias havent a clue what their doing
73 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:26 PM
£350,000 and £400,000 thats what the loan fees are reportedly
74 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Re : Fostino.
I’m pretty sure mate he hasn’t reduced all the debt yet, otehrwise he would be giving Kinnear at least £10m to spend this month.
I’ve a feeling his plan is to reduce and completely get rid of our debts and THEN invest in the squad.
Which is totally wrong!!
75 The Real Entertainers // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Sorry OHURLEY couldnt read a word you said !
76 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:27 PM
and are two midfielders!
77 The Real Entertainers // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Sorry OHURLEY couldnt read a word you typed !
78 pdidy // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Sober Up OH !
79 Robby Bobson // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Omg it actually let me log in
. Usually does nothing when i log in.
Anyway
I have been kinda optimistic and supportive of Ashley but wtf is this about. The manager demanding that the Chef Exec comes in for a meeting. What exactly does Lambias do…never talks to press and is relaxing at home instead of going for transfers. The fact that they dont really know what money there is, if any, and kinenar doesnt know about transfers is shocking.
Remember in Allardyces first tranfer window with Mort, not Lambias or Wise, we werent exactly spectatular, but it was efficient and decisive and got people in. The likes of Enrique, Smith, Rozenhal, Geremi came in quickly after being identified. I remember reading when they found Enrique was available they were out there the next day and negioated a deal.
Ashley made his fortune by selling its stock in “closing down sales” and moving to a new shop close by. Hope he is not using the same tactic with our beloved club.
80 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:28 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article5511574.ece
81 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:30 PM
OHurly
His chin hits his chest so he finds it hard to speak and he looks like Quasimodo but played football like Maradona. Ugly but his feet were priceless. Wonder how much Beardsley would be worth in todays market.
82 OHurley // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:30 PM
LOL Entertainers!
Yeah, right? When I listen to him speak it’s like,
“Reet, we’re ganna ge on tha pitch an plee sum footy, like. Ah jus tree ta go oot an [unintelligible mushy noises], yer knaa?”
83 CLINT FLICK // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:31 PM
We should start calling this (Jan) transfer window, the jan loan window, cuz thats what its turning into.
Not just us.
Or Try out period or something, no one wants to spend in Jan.
84 IrishMan // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:31 PM
tino97,
Didn’t you know already that Irish men have big balls?
85 Prince Bassong // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:32 PM
How can we expect players of any real quality to come to Newcastle when our owner and directors can’t be bothered/don’t want to?
86 OHurley // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Toon1978-
I bet he’d be more sought after than Ronaldo. My guess- Citeh would pay at least 40k for him.
87 Fostino // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:33 PM
doocey
aye i imagine the club is still making a loss, but i reckon most of the dedt is go….well technically anyway, we now owe ashley a 100+ million for greacefully trying to clear our dedts
88 Robby Bobson // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Ally…hopefully he talked to Mike not just Lambias. As chairman Lambias may just be trying to balance the books like any normal business, but it will Ashley that will need to pump some of his own fortune into the club if we are too really improve our squad.
89 Toon1978 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:36 PM
OHurley
Imagine Beardsley being 24 today and at the top of his game, i would say roughly around 45 million for his services in todays market.
90 OHurley // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:38 PM
that’s what I meant. I think I put 40k…. typo. 40-50 million for sure. Who knows with Citeh? Maybe 60 mil?
91 CLINT FLICK // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Pedro-Priceless-Geordie Legend-Then some.
92 stu // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:38 PM
was this meeting meant to be happening tonight?
93 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Yeah but the only way we can suceed is with money nowadays!
If we get some decent signings in this market we’l stay up and THEN i can imagine Ashley investing
94 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Well Robby Bobson i hope he did talk to Mike but i dont think he is willing to spend.
he doesnt understand to have success i.e. winning trophies u have got to spend big!
just look at Chelsea and Man Utd, aye fair enough Man utd had that freak thing of about 5-7 top class players coming through there youth ranks but that once in about 30-40 years that happens. other than that every other club has spent huge to be succesful.
95 Cooper // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:39 PM
I reckon JK has been told there’s very little to spend.
Would explain why he’s looking at free agents and the likes of NIGEL QUASHIE – please god no!!
96 Fostino // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:39 PM
post 84
*gone
97 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Doocey exactly
98 Robby Bobson // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Cooper
Kinnear denied that. ISeems like he himself was embarrassed to be linked with a crap player like who. He would have been a bad omen…hes been relegated four times. Even Bham dont want him.
99 tino97 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Sorry, Irish Man didn’t realise!
Who is doing our transfers? Is it Dennis Wise? Not my favourite person, but he seems to do a decent job. Surely when Joe tells Dennis who he wants, they have to ask the chairman and the owner for the funds. But if they aren’t there, what sort of message does that give out. You trying to strike up a deal with a player. But you have to wait until you can track down the owner and drag the chairman from the house.
It seems the chairman and the owner can’t be bothered. I just want someone running the club who is honest, passionate, efficient and talks to the fans. Is that too hard to find?
We really need a clear indication what Ashley wants to do with the club and maybe a definition of what Llambias does at the club?
But it looks like we are stuck with it for a while though. Still be 100% behind the lads, hopefully they can drag us to safety.
Sorry to get on a rant about Ashely and Llambias but couldn’t help myself!
100 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:44 PM
We have 10 first team players available for tomorrow and a game 3 days later. Our squad is thinner than a bulimics sandwich and yet Ashley still needs to be convinced by Kinnear that he has to invest in the team. I think even describing our board as non football men is being kind as any one that cannot look at the numbers and cannot think we are in a dire situation is a moron. I think the meeting is to try and persuade Ashley to release some funds as a free transfer and two loan deals suggests Kinnear is working with nowt. Keegan had many meetings of a similar kind and look where it got him, and he was someone with a long term contract and not who you would describe as a lap dog. Kinnear needs an attitude similar to the one in his first press conference as being docile with Llambias and Ashley will get you trodden on.
101 bowburnmag // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:45 PM
There’s so much deja vu flying about, this might well be a parallel universe for all I know………. Ah except, replace one character (Mr Keegan) with another (Mr Kinnear) and roll the clock forward slightly. Now tell me this hasn’t happened before? Same messages, same worries, just a different voice in the wilderness crying out for some help? Got that sinking feeling Joe? Ask Kev what’s it like when you’re left paddling in the ocean. He’ll tell you, soon enough.
102 CLINT FLICK // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Why the hell would the buying of players be decided by a owner or chairman, they’d just say how much is available.
103 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Can you imagine if Kinnear decided that we are beyond help and walked as well. If he doesn’t get the players he needs and has a good chance of failing then he is likely to do that. Kinnear knows like the rest of us we can only stay up with additions to the squad though if he left now he would still have some credibility having done a ‘decent’ job. You just pray that smug faces Llambias doesn’t p*ss him of like he did with Keegan.
104 Robby Bobson // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Dan…Kinnear seems pretty pissed off already and the respect i have for him doubled as he seems to want to do well for the club, not just a nice pay day (dare i say like Keegan wanted), as im sure there would be a few job offers for him if he left now.
105 CLINT FLICK // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Lot of assumptions there like.
Lets not go down the ‘what if’ route(some more), this blog this paranoid enough.
106 stu // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Is this meeting happening tonight??
Anyway its a huge game tomorrow, and I think we have to go for the strongest team!
——–Given———–
Geremi–Colo–Bassong—N’Zogbia
————Butt—–Guthrie———
Jonas———-Lualua———-Duff
——————Owen—————
Got to protect the defence with two full backs who are not natural in those postions. Would be tempted to play Xisco but im assuming there is no chance.
107 CLINT FLICK // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:55 PM
JK has to show willing & also cover his arse & still be credable to us lot, which is human, professional & fair enough in my book.
108 CLINT FLICK // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:57 PM
451 at home, nah.
109 craig s chisholm // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:57 PM
the times (so its prob true) are reporting that the two loan deals are for 350k and 400k for the second half of the season. we had to do a laon deal cos we did not have money available to buy the players. Now, in my way of thinking – 350k for half a season – thats 700k for a full season loan, that means to me that the player we dont have money to buy is around 3 million max. this is shit everyone. ED this means that you can stop linking us with ANY plyers at all cos ashley is not giving a single penny to jfk. MA is killing us and destroying our club on purpose – htis must be the case cos no-one would be as thick as to do this if he expected the club to do well. words can not express how much i want to physically hurt MA/WISE/LARSE. i wish they were all dead and thats the truth. bunch of cnuts.
110 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 10:58 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1114672/City-make-amazing-100m-bid-AC-Milan-superstar-Kaka–pay-500-000-week.html
unbelievable
111 Ally // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:00 PM
500k a week
112 stu // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:01 PM
clint flick, I know what your saying but we were too open against them last time out! Thought on sat aswell we were too open to counter attacks which is how hull play.
113 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Craig, shut up, far only goes so far.
Money will be given for the “right” type of player.
114 bowburnmag // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Wouldn’t get out of bed for less.
115 CLINT FLICK // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:02 PM
But they were at home mate.
116 Fostino // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:03 PM
re: dan
you mean something like this
joe: whos derek llambias
llambias: ………….cough cough………..
joe: your a cu*t
joe: where’s mike ashley
ashley: alright mate, fancy a non-alcoholic beer (burp)
joe: your an effing bast**d
117 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Robby Bobson
The reason he was given a long term deal is because he was offered the Charlton job. He would easily get work again in the lower leagues. I don’t know how Randy Lerner can be worth £750 million and yet still back Martin O’Neill to the hilt and we with a richer owner can give us zero funds when we have been more desperate than ever. I was also thinking of the money we have had coming in since Ashley took over.
We have £50 – 60 million in television money plus income from ticket sales, Sponsorship, shirt sales, money from food outlets on match day, premier league prize money. The wage bill in this time has been significantly reduced with the likes of Dyer, Parker, Emre leaving and youner lads like Bassong and Guthrie coming in. In terms of transfers we have broke even in every transfer window and therefore Ashley has not really SPENT a dime on players.
I reckon he has clawed at least half of the amount of debt he has allegedly payed off (or more likely loaned to the club) Yet he cannot give a poxy 6 million for a player when he even spends that amount in the casino’s.
We have been bled dry, just look at the squad tomorrow night and it will be there to see.
118 Archie Mag // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Jesus christ that citeh sheikh really is a rich tw@t! Thats unreal.
119 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:05 PM
stu
Xisco is unlikely to play as when he makes so many appearances we have to pay the other %50 of his transfer fee to Deportivo.
120 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:06 PM
When you think of it the Television money we have made in the last 2 seasons would have payed off that debt alone.
121 tino97 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM
£100m you could build a team for that, amazing! 500k a week, thats crazy. Its there money but surely £100m for 1 player. How if he can’t handle the premiership, be a pretty big flop.
I wish we had that money!!
122 bowburnmag // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Doocey, on the contrary it could well be that the naivety is on your side. It could just be horrible spin from the board and easy to enough to say “ah well the ‘right player’ was just never available.” It’s getting increasingly hard to argue with the Anti-Ashley stance. Not enough of the right words and certainly not enough action. Unfortunately, though he doesn’t help himself by all accounts, JK is being made to look a bit of a mug so far. “We’re going to do this, actually we’re going to do that. Nah, actually we’ll do the other instead”. Hope and pray your optimism and faith is reward or else the next few years will be rocky to say the least.
123 Robby Bobson // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Anyone read that Xisco doesnt get played because he was eating fish n chips given to him by a fan, when he was a unselected player at a game?
Was the mirror so dnt know what true it is.
124 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:13 PM
I get the feeling AC Milan will accept it as well. They have an aging squad and will need to replace 7-8 players in their side soon. It is absolutely horrific for football what is happening at Man City though.
125 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Couldn’t agree more, Ashley needs to deliver because he’s wasting his own money and we’re losing a great football club.
126 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Is Kaka to good to come to the premiership and be a flop. Not sure if he is but were it to happen it would be one of the funniest things i have ever seen.
127 Cooper // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:15 PM
well id enjoy watching kaka as s.t jamses like even if city do have dream team by then
128 Robby Bobson // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:17 PM
City need a solid base before they can buy luxury players. Defence is a shambles, midfield lacks balls, and i dont think Kaka will help them that much because they have many class forward players. I had abit more respect for them when they were after Parker becuase thats the sort of player they need.
129 Cooper // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:17 PM
someone told me that you cant play for 3 teams in one season – and if thats correct it would mean xisco couldnt move this month.
130 tino97 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Kaka is sure to sign just in time to line up against us in a couple of weeks. You just know it.
131 Robby Bobson // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Doocey
i think he is.
Deco has been class at Chelski from what i have seen and i thought he would flop.
132 Robby Bobson // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:22 PM
i meant Dan not Doocey
133 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:24 PM
You just know that Man City will push through a deal for Craig Bellamy before our game in 2 weeks time and he will line up against us once again.
134 Doocey // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Nah bells won’t go, not good enough for them!
135 Californication // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Robby Bobson- With reagrds to Deco, he made an intially good impression at Chelski, but there seems to be a growing consensus amoungst the supporters that he is not living up to his reputation.
136 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Something needs to be done to stop Many City though. They dwarf anything Chelsea did when Abramovic came. I think they spent £100 million combined when he arrived yet they are talking for one player. The most we can pray that happens if he signs is that he is a major disruption amongst the team with the size of his wages.
137 Californication // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Make no mistake about it, Man City could well be the death of English football…
138 Tom1664 // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Wouldn’t you just love it if they poured all this cash into trophy players and still got relegated come the end of the season? It’s like tottenham – leaky defence and no heavies in midfield to protect the back 4.
139 BlacknWhite Barmy // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Stinks of panic – the fact that we supposedely had a transfer and Jokinghere had passed his list to the midget. Now we are attempting to bring in ‘expensice’ loan signings – what a joke – as for jokinhere leaving – why – hes getting good money and perhaps getting noticed for his nect appointment – he definetely does not have the clubs best interest at heart only his own – ditto Lamearse, fatash and the poisoned swarf
140 AlanSmith. // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Surely if the city owner wants to bid 100 mil for kaka, hee could give us 150 mil for shay, n’zogbia and owen [who is going to leave anyway] then we could buy a new squad!!
141 BlacknWhite Barmy // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Just seen the Mail
Manchester City have offered AC Milan £100m in cash for Brazilian superstar Kaka, who will earn £500,000 a week gross if he signs for the Premier League side.
wtf is going on when the likes of these numbers are being banded around. Its definetly not the game it used to be……….
142 bowburnmag // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Off topic – have you seen the photo of that kid from Benfica on nufc.com? 13?? Never mind the paper round. He must write, edit, print, deliver and reycle the papers…..Or maybe I’m just getting old and I’ve forgotten what 13 year olds look like?
143 Californication // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:40 PM
BlacknWhite Barmy- If he did not have the best interests of the club at heart do you think he would have called this meeting with Ashley?
144 BlacknWhite Barmy // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Cali – he wants to get players in to ensure premier status – whilst that is also our aim he stands to gain more if he is seen to have ’saved’ the club.
What I am trying to say is that both his and our goals may not be mutually exclusive
145 OHurley // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Two words for FIFA:
SALARY CAP.
What Citeh’s new owners are doing is, and I want to make myself absolutely clear:
ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL.
146 Ross // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:47 PM
me along with many others have agreed with you recently californication. With the figures they are throwing around, eventually all value’s for players with regards to their standard of football will become void, any sort of wage structure or bracket will go through the roof and 95% of premiership teams will be left wondering how (or realising they cannot) compete with teams like city. People are already wondering how players like bent can carry tags such as 16 million i think it was? With the way city are going, they’ll ruin chances for any other club.
147 bowburnmag // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Anyone else aware of Zabaleta and Brighi as the loanees? Could be pure conjecture but a lad on teamtalk seems to think that’s happening. He’s not a wind-up as far as I know. He also thinks Gomis is coming across for a look around and Shorey is being looked at as well like so not sure what to make of it.
148 workyticket // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:53 PM
The Mail has got it wrong again. Man City were talking about offering Kaka around £200,000 a week, not £500,000.
149 Simo // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Two fringe players looking to be moved on for 4.5m – Geremi & Smith??
The loanees – Saviola & as for the other am stumped!! Reckon it could be a attacking mid and then we will move for Shorey when we free up some funds.
Ashley – get out!!
150 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Lads, from NUFC.com
“There are two midfield players, one Argentine, one Italian. The loan fees for them are £350K and £400K
until the end of the season because we weren’t in a position to pay what their clubs wanted to buy them.”
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so 2 midfields, that put’s pay to anyone like saviola or burdisso.
151 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Dan Scott re 141
we are still paying the transfer fees for players like Luque and Owen. plus colo cost a lot.
If we ship out 2 players for 4.5mil, bring in lovenkrands and the 2 loanees mentioned above for 1mil and say ashley stumps up 5mil then we’ll have almost 10 mil to play with and be ‘up’ one player. just dunno what we’ll do come the summer, cos replacing owen will be very price and in this economic situation ashely aint getting any richer and there won’t be a buyer.
152 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:09 AM
And we were led to believe that the fees we were paying for those loans were big. Didn’t Stoke pay something like £3million to take Ameobi for 4 months last season.
153 bowburnmag // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:10 AM
I’m not sure whether this lad was making his assumptions about the loanees having read it back. It’s hard to tell. However, this Brighi has form for ‘loans’ and the same rumour-monger reckons Riquelme and Rodriguez are unsettled. Either of those would be a hell of a surprise. Zabaleta has been getting his game at City so that could be a red herring.
154 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:11 AM
sorry re 114 even.
oh and dan that’s very interesting about xisco’s transfer fee-where did u hear thaT!
155 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Also from nufc.com. Maybe this is Ashleys plan to solve the current injury crisis.
Toon teen arrival?
A Brazilian website claims that Newcastle have completed the signing of
13 year-old Caio Ferreira on a three year contract.
The youngster turns 14 in May and has most recently been playing as a striker
for the junior teams at the Portuguese club Benfica.
156 workyticket // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:13 AM
145 Simo // Jan 13, 2009 at 11:57 PM
“Two fringe players looking to be moved on for 4.5m – Geremi & Smith??”
Besiktas fans seem to think that Geremi has already signed for them.
157 Simo // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Any official word on Geremi?
Hope they have fun with the lad!
158 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:15 AM
cooldj
A lot of sites have mentioned it. True-Faith i remember being one in their editorial. It seems plausible as well.
159 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM
IMO it was the eve of our FA cup replay with Stoke this time last year that defined our season and ultimately kept us up. Tomorrow might be just as important for the future of Newcastle United Football Club
only joking lads i’m being cheesy
160 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:21 AM
nufc.com have got the wrong end of the stick completely.
Bowburnmag – Brighi has been a regular this seson, scoring for fun too. Zabaleta is a regular and the city fans love him.
161 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:23 AM
just thinking deep here, if the two loan signings come and our midfielders we won’t be signing raul meirles will we? what with lovenkrands as wing cover. say we bring in a CM and a DM and lose only geremi from midfield we’d have
CM
)
DM
Guthrie
Butt
Zog
Duff
Jonas
Loven
Barton
(Smith
Lua Lua
162 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:28 AM
I’m going to hazard a guess that the two coming in (providing nufc.com are right with the midfielders thing) are a dm/am pair rather than the box to box types we already have in guthrie and barton
163 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Perrotta’s only had 3 starts this season
164 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Just emailed nuc.com saying they have the wrong end of the stick about the 13 year old.
165 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:30 AM
interesting research there tom. would love perrotta, i’m flicking throu wiki to try and find some realistic options!
(hope the name is to do with kronenburg
)
166 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:31 AM
tomtoon isn’t the 13 year old thing a wum
167 Fostino // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM
potentially 3 midfielders in so……………..could do with a defender
time to send gonzalez home
168 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Cooldj – yup, it makes living with chelsea supporters all the more bearable
169 Ross // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:38 AM
tom, are you sure they have it wrong? if you google his name you do get one or two sites with brief player profiles that claim he’s some 13 year old striker playing at benfica.
170 craig s chisholm // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM
cooldj…………. i mentioned that in post 106 too mate. this confirms we have been given zero money from that fat twat ashley, if we couldnt even afford to buy a couple of three million quid players and have had to loan then instead.
Doocey…………no mate, i wont shut up so dont even bother telling me to. i cant belive you still think money will be given for the right players – you are either daft or just a dreamer. Who says they are the right players then – ashley says its all on jfk. This being the case how come we have not offered any money at all for any of the targets that JFK wanted to buy and that we have not landed a single player even though the window is half through already? JFK says a player is the right one that should be the end of it – but its not is it? i am more a realist myself. we are up shit creek, this is clear. You keep hoping though mate, i hope you are right and we land that right player. These loanees that we may get are the right players and are only worth about 3 million each max but JFK has gone on record today saying he was not given any money to buy them. money available my arse.
ashley doesnt have the heart or the balls to run a prem team. he has gobbed off saying he wanted a prem team just to get at wheelan and also massage his big fat ego. he got his wish, bought us and now he doesnt have a scooby and has hired ***s (like ashley himself) to run it for him. between the lot of them they are systicmatically running us into the ground. you think its good he has paid off some debt – it wont matter that he has wiped out 80 million debt cos once we go into the fizzy league (cos we are) the club will be devalued by more than the amount of debt he has (if you believe the fat ***) paid off. i wish ashley nothing but hatred until the day the shit sells up.
171 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Ross – yeah but didn’t the article say he was 19 or something?
172 Fostino // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:41 AM
i would seriously consider calling butt into the office and rip up his contract extension, if it’s taken him this long to sign, then he and go play his football with some championship side next year…………axe him in the summer
173 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:42 AM
If you translate the article he is 18 and JFK wants him to join up with the first team squad.
174 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Which smacks somewhat of creative licence in the brazilian press
175 Fostino // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM
this is a big day……..potential signings, a big match, i love the toon!!
176 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Tom_Toon
How are nufc.com wrong about the 13 year old.
177 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:45 AM
As for my suggestion on the Argentine, there’s a guy called Lucas Bernadi who’s got 6 caps for Argentina and plays for Monaco as a DM who’s only had 6 games this season. Bit of a wildcard but you never know
178 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Was going to say he looks too old to be 13
179 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Tom_Toon
Sorry, i see you already answered my question.
180 Fostino // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:47 AM
i hope xisco gets a run tomorrow……..i wanna see what wise see’s in him
181 Ross // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:48 AM
i couldnt be too sure if i’m honest, it was all in foreign! haha. although looking at your translation, it does say things such as “chance to play alongside players such as owen and obafemi martins”, which if he was 13 years old, he wouldnt be doing,lol.
All i would say though is that if he was some brazilian talent playing at Benfica and was 18 years old, surely 1. there would be numerous links to him when his name is googled, and 2. tom toon would know about him. All i get when i google his name is a player profile claiming he is 13 and playing at benfica, and also an article from a page entitled “serbenfiquista.com”, however the page wont open.
If im honest i think it is a bit of a mix up, the player profile you get claims he is portugese. I’m pretty confused,lol. Is he of brazilian origin yet portugese nationality?
Who knows, maybe we have another “21 or 28, obafemi martins” case on our hands. However, “13 or 18 caio vinicius duarte ferreira” doesnt quite have the same ring to it, really. haha.
182 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:48 AM
think it should be cleared up in a day or so but i thought i heard he was a fake. after all doesn’t he claim he signed like 2 or 3 moths ago?
bernardi another good shout-wouldn’t overly want him though. fingers crossed for banega for me!
just a little perspective, ameobi’s loan fee was 500k but i guess it’s a little different as they’d agreed a fee whereas presuambly we’re just paying for the 6 months!
183 RyanToon // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:49 AM
hearing lots of rumours that the argentine we will sign is juan roman riquelme, and he will be eligable for the weekends game at ewood park
184 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:49 AM
Tom_Toon
Whats this Ferreira kid like. I know you follow Benfica so i suppose your the best person to ask.
185 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:51 AM
Isn’t Riquelme at Boca Juniors now. I’m sure he must be getting a game there.
186 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:51 AM
ryan, i really hope not. not the sort of player who will get stuck in for the cause!
187 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:52 AM
wait i’ll rephrase that, i’d be really exicted if we got riqueleme but i think he’d flatter to decieve and wouldn’t be suited to the prem as undoubtley talented as he is.
188 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:52 AM
He doesn’t play for Benifica, he plays for some second or third division club in Brazil I’ve never heard of.
189 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Riquelme in a relegation battle, hahah, dear oh dear, Riquelme is probably on f the best passers the world has ever seen, but he only has 1 pace, SLOW. As for his work rate, has he got one?
190 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Anyone know how often Gago’s getting games at real madrid?
191 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:55 AM
The Argentines can be out of
Mariano González
Jonathan Bottinelli
Nicolás Burdisso
Javier Saviola
José Ernesto Sosa
192 RyanToon // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:55 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2127554.ece
more rubbish from the sun, credit crunch? how about that 12m for milner? EH?
193 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:56 AM
Are Boca Juniors in a relegation battle? I thought they were one of the best teams in South America.
194 RyanToon // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:57 AM
people say riquelme wouldnt be up for the fight? we need this type of player, we need a classy centre midfield with a great vision, guthrie can do all the dog work
195 RyanToon // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:58 AM
danscott
his on about us lol
196 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Sorry i thought he said Riquelme is in a relegation battle
197 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:59 AM
here’s a name for you Kofi Danning. remember it!
dan no tom and i were saying if riquelme came here he wouldn’t be good cos of the relegation battle.
and ryan, imo if we played riquelme we’d have to go 5 in midfield as he doesn’t track back at all!
198 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:00 AM
Tom1664 – Yes, he seems to be playing almost every game these days.
199 RyanToon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:00 AM
a few of me toon friends have texted me and they all say the argentine is gonna be riquelme, if you dont wanna believe far enough but im just passing on info lads
200 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:00 AM
Does anyone else think this has been a really eventful day?
201 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:03 AM
Cack – i’m willing to bet that any argentine we get is going to be a fringe international because the main lineup are getting games or already on loan
202 Ross // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:03 AM
ryan, guthrie wouldnt be able to do all the dogwork. if a player of his experience at his age could go week in week out doing the work of two midfielders in the center by himself, against two midfielders, he’d be superman, lol.
Fact is lazy isnt the word to even start describing riquelme. Yes, he is a fantastic passer of the ball, but when you’re in the position we are, you need every single player willing to fight. He’s slow as it is, the pace of the EPL wouldnt be something he’d take to very well i dont think. Add that to the fact his workrate is horrendous (as T_T said, does he have one!?) and for me, he wouldnt be the best of signings.
203 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:04 AM
lol ryan, weren’t it you and i disbelieving kajman the other night. you seem like a trustworthy guy, i just kinda hope your wrong!
204 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:04 AM
It’ll probably be the eternally shoit Burdisoo.
Bring back Bramble!
205 RyanToon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:05 AM
danscott
everyday being a toon fan, is eventfull lol
206 RyanToon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:06 AM
why doesnt anyone want riquelme, i dont get it, trust me when he signs youll love it lol
tomtoon
bramble? really?
207 Kevin // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:06 AM
Aye Dan, it has.
I personally don’t see what all the doom and gloom is about (IF you only look at it in short term) … We’ve gotten a winger for reinforcement until the end of the season, we are (apparently and hopefully) about to receive two more reinforcements, and JFK has reiterated his stance that he has a pair of b*ll*cks and want some action from the board. Obviously, this club has problems. But these are baby steps towards a solution, gentlemen. Oh, not to mention we got to read more hilarious nonsense from our favorite French wing(h)er! Love it!
208 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:07 AM
Bramble > Burdisso
209 Kevin // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:08 AM
TomToon speaking of Bramble – did anyone hear that ludicrous Wigan fan on 606 this past weekend calling for Capello to give Bramble a call up to the Enland squad??? I about fell off my chair!
210 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:09 AM
To be fair though he has been pretty immense for Wigan this season.
211 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:10 AM
LOVENKRANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
212 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:10 AM
cooldj > Tom_Toon
lads reckon i’m off. see you in the morrow-up nice and early to see if anything’s changed!!!
213 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:11 AM
before i go, what’s the meaning of post 206?
214 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:12 AM
Scored on fifa.
215 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 AM
gone
216 cooldj // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 AM
(pro evo’s better)
217 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:16 AM
I’m gonna have to weigh in on TT’s side I’m afraid cooldj – fifa 09 is better then pro evo, although it’s the first time i’ve been able to say it.
218 Kevin // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:19 AM
Is this true Tom(s)? I’ve been on FM for a couple years, so a bit out of the loop i am
219 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:21 AM
FM is hands down the best football game in terms of addictiveness but I think pro evo’s plateaued and the gameplay and physics in fifa are better
220 RyanToon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:22 AM
i wonder if tomtoons got taylor in his team lol
night toon fans bk on here tomorrow to brag about my riquelme rumour lol
221 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM
Still, I won’t be complaining if it IS riquelme – we need all the bodies we can get and if they can hit a sweet set piece, so much the better!
222 Fostino // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:26 AM
il always be pro evo….just like il always be toon…………….even i started on fifa but pro wasnt around then
223 Kevin // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:26 AM
Agree about fm tom, but every once in a while the ol’ thumbs get bored and you just need to give them a run out!!
224 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:29 AM
Why would you want to watch dots wobble on a screen, that is all FM is aint it?
Never played it myself, just seem people playing it.
225 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:29 AM
My guess out of the Italian players we have been linked with are:
Dossena (Liverpool)
Borriello (AC Milan)
Aquilani (Roma) – 6 games this season in league
226 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:30 AM
seen*
227 Californication // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:30 AM
I’m not sure about Riquelme to be honest. There are two ways you can look at this: One way is this: “We are in a relegation battle, and the only way we will pull ourselves out of it is through someone of the ilk of Riquleme orchestrating the middle of the park”.
Or you could look at it like this :”We are in a relagation battle and we cannot afford to have a player in the middle of the park that could very well be a liability”…
228 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM
I pray its not Dossena, horrendous player.
229 Kevin // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:32 AM
Yes, TomToon, we’ve all heard. You proclaim it around once a week!
FM isn’t about the beauty of the game it’s about the strategy. It’s great for the same reason RISK is great. (and other reasons)
But you’re entitled to your own opinion.
230 Californication // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:32 AM
Aquilani would be more along the lines of what we need right now: A player who can work both ways. I have always wondered why he struggles to get starts these days at Roma.
231 Dragonera // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:32 AM
Dan
Didn’t Aquilani recently snub a move to Arsenal because he was said to have been happy in Italy?
I used to be an avid Pro fan, Fifa is better now.
232 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:32 AM
TT – it’s hard to describe mate. I thought the same way about it but someone ought me a copy of ‘07 which I ran on a pisspoor computer but it turned out to be such an addictive timesink of strategy, luck and love for NUFC that it ate up most of my AS level year
.
233 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:34 AM
To b honest i have never had the chance to see Dossena play this season. I know he came with a good reputation and was quite expensive for £8 million.
234 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:36 AM
Dragonera
He might have done. I was just looking at the recent Italian national squads and checking how many games each of those players had played for their clubs this season.
235 Kevin // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:36 AM
I got sacked from Newcastle in my first season!! Not a good job hiring a 27 year old, first time manager me thinks
236 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM
The price of the tickets for an FA Cup 3rd round replay against a second string Hull side on a Wednesday night are ridiculous. My ticket in the platinum club cost £40. Even around the rest of the ground the cheapest adult ticket is £20. Should be £5 adults, £2.50 bairns like in the old days, turn up and pay your fiver on the door.
237 Dragonera // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:42 AM
I cannot believe City have recently bid 91million for Kaka. If this transfer goes through at this current time during the recession, a large percentage of football fans will turn their back on the sport. If they are spending that much on his transfer fee how much is he going to be promised in wages? 200k? 300k? It really is a shame what is happening to this sport
238 Tom1664 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:42 AM
Anyone else question the sanity of google ads, placing an ad for official Liverpool merchandise on a Newcastle blog?
239 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 14, 2009 at 1:48 AM
Dragonera
The fee is meant to be £100 million with the wage he is being offered supposedly around £500,000 per week.
240 Dragonera // Jan 14, 2009 at 2:04 AM
Dan
Mate, if that is true then what is to stop C.Ronaldo, Cesc and Torres demanding the same next time contract talks are scheduled? This stinks of the events prior to the whole bank crash incident. Rather than taking responsibility, the guys up top would rather get rich now, bury their heads in the sand and take notice only when the cards come crashing down around them. This is stupidity at its best by the “supposed” smartest creatures of the world.
241 Robby Bobson // Jan 14, 2009 at 2:15 AM
Pes is better than Fifa.
Riquelme would only be a good player starting behind Owen in a front two…not in midfield.
And yeh wtf is up with Liverpool merch being advertised.
242 Dragonera // Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 AM
Riquelme would only be good in the hole behind Martins in a 4-5-1 formation. Owen’s lack of pace will limit the range of passes Riquelme is capable of and Owen is useless up front by himself anyway. Not that i want lazy, stroppy Riquelme anyway.
243 Robby Bobson // Jan 14, 2009 at 2:26 AM
Well i say Owen because when is Martins ever going to be picked over owen, despite MArtins being better (for us) imo.
244 RyanToon // Jan 14, 2009 at 2:41 AM
we could play
given
beye coloccini bassong pasquale
guthrie barton
jonas riquelme martins
owen
245 Dragonera // Jan 14, 2009 at 2:42 AM
Robby Bobson
Wish i could disagree, but i see Owen being treated like king here until he walks away on a free in a few months time. I just wish we could have a manager with the balls to just drop him when he is playing poor. Owen has to be the only striker that people will literally wait on to score goals. Not being funny, but 90% of strikers worth their salt will score a few eventually if they are allowed to play on despite being awful for consecutive games.
What makes me laugh is the guy won’t score for five games and then he will score 2 goals in 2 games and all the pro Owen bunch start saying things like, “All you Owen doubters have been proved wrong blah blah blah”…They see 2 goals in 2 consecutive games…but i see 2 goals scored in 7 games…
246 Robby Bobson // Jan 14, 2009 at 2:47 AM
I think Owen is world class…i do, but for a winning team. For example Man utd with plenty of ball possession and who need the final touch in the box. But we are not that team. We need somebody who will run, hold the ball up and most importantly is explosive and create something out of nothing, which is martins all over. I cant remeber a goal for us apart from West Ham which was poor goalkeeping that Owen has scored when the chance wasnt laid to him.
Ryan Toon….the top four would almost be a dream line up…riquelme with the vision playing in the wingmen with Owen tucking them away in the middle. Shame things dont work like that.
This site is not good for procrastination
!
247 ginkoh // Jan 14, 2009 at 3:10 AM
Come on Joe. Kick them out the ground. I hate when I wake up and realize that our board is the worst XXXXING in the world.
248 Kevin // Jan 14, 2009 at 3:15 AM
Ginkoh where are you in the world?
249 Spyro // Jan 14, 2009 at 4:12 AM
Im sure it was mentioned on sky sports recently that Owen has a slightly better record that 1 in 2 when he actually starts for us. Says it all really, playing for a team as uncreative as ourselves and still racking em up.
250 toonoholic // Jan 14, 2009 at 4:47 AM
For 100 mn, we could buy ourselves two different starting XIs
251 Toon_Sydney // Jan 14, 2009 at 4:54 AM
omg if its dossena ill kill myself
252 lesh // Jan 14, 2009 at 8:32 AM
I’ve gotta say that although no great fan of Ashely and having tried to justify some of his financial reasoning (eg not going daft with spend), I am flabbergasted that he can be so shortsighted not to realise that his investment more and more at risk.
It shouldn’t have to take Joe to point out that we’re just three points away from the big drop – a two year old can work that out – and that would end any hopes of a realistice offer for the club. Surely he cannot be so blind not to see that the squad is lacking in both quality and quantity – KK said that last summer and Joe’s said it since day one!
One wonders what the role of Executive Director, Football entails – is it not his job to deal with football matters? If it is and he’s still focused on long term prospectsm, then he is to coin a phrase, fiddling while NUFC burns!
And Llambias? What’s he for? Is it not his role to manage the business for Ashley and protect hi investment? If it is then he, like not-so Wise is failing miserably.
Sorry Mr A, we can’t avoid the fact that times are tough for the vast majority of clubs but fans pray that you will see flames licking around your investment and come to your senses….. pleeeeezzzz!
Give Joe some credit, he’s clearly not a spendthrift, hear what he’s saying – he’s a brave, and I guess, a very disillusioned man that you’re going to p*** off big time. Mr Ashley, do you want him to walk too?
Wake up!!!
253 Nick D // Jan 14, 2009 at 8:38 AM
We have so many injuries because Kinnear’s training is rubbish.
Surely tonight he could stop whinging and give the following a run: Ranger, lua Lua, kadar, Tozer, Krul, Xisco, Spear.
254 The Real Entertainers // Jan 14, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Nick D
This is not the first time we have had numerous injuries and Kinnear was not in charge then.
There is clearly a problem at Newcastle United and it needs looking into.
Are the medical staff up to scratch ?
Are the training facilities what they should be?
Or could it be that our squad is so short on numbers, we are playing players that are not 100% fit and causing even bigger injury problems!
Of course it may not just be one problem and there may indeed be a mixture.
However this AGAIN needs looking into.
255 The Real Entertainers // Jan 14, 2009 at 9:33 AM
I once again dont understand Ashley’s thinking.
After all the whooha in the summer and the prospective sale, times have changed.
Ashley is keeping the club
and
He wants to move ‘FORWARD’.
However with plenty water under the bridge and the Jan’ window now open, he has had a great opportunity to win some fans over.
Surprisingly i’m not talking about signing new players. Of course this is an obvious way to win over some fans and one i’m not apposed to !
But there are other ways to show the fans your not just biding your time to leave and truely support the club.
1) Yes, the broken record: Talk to us! If not you, then get that overpaid moron, you call a managing director to speak REGULARLY to the fans.
2) Get yourself back to the games! Controversial, i know, but although not all but a growing majority would accept it. It would show unitity, after all we are Newcastle UNITED.
2 very simple and cost free ways to show you are with us and are not looking to distance yourself from the club, if indeed you still want to be the owner of OUR club Newcastle United.
256 sirjasontoon // Jan 14, 2009 at 9:49 AM
This was the last chance Ashley had to win the fans over again…i.e. spend some cash and back a manager.
This clearly is not going to happen “expensive”loan signings…that made me laugh and scream at the same time.
The writing is on the wall now and time is running out.
ASHLEY OUT!
P.S I did not expect world stars to be queuing up at the club..just decent players that want to fight and survive in the prem.
257 sirjasontoon // Jan 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM
To have to call a meeting to explain the current emergency the club faces just shows how far removed the board must be from both the club and the fans.
It is nothing short of criminal how far this great club has slipped since the Ashley takeover.
258 xisco biscuits // Jan 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM
sirjasontoon…
two good posts there mate, i couldnt agree more!! my patience has finally gone. i have a feeling that my mind wont have been changed by feb 1st and this window will be the straw that broke the camels back. we are a f**king farce!!
259 THE MAGPIE // Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 AM
The strategy has been clear for a while and im suprised people are suprised by what is going on.
The idea is to finish 17th on goal difference staying in the Premiership and then sell the club in the summer and if he cant sell it then the same next season and the season after until he does sell it. There will be no investment and there is no ambition apart from survival.
260 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 11:30 AM
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261 Sav // Jan 14, 2009 at 11:41 AM
You’re right, The Magpie, and sirj and Xisco’s bickies….but its the level of desperation and humiliation we sink to. Its like watching an accident in slow-mo. All Toon fans need rubber necks.
Strategy? Thats a good’un.
262 Tom_Toon // Jan 14, 2009 at 11:46 AM
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