FT: Newcastle 0 Hull City 1 – Magpies Down And Out


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It’s 54 years since Newcastle last won a home trophy when we hammered Man City 3-1 in the 1955 FA Cup Final but that’s in the days when our club could actually win something.


But it will now be at least another year before we win another home trophy as Newcastle went down tonight to a weakened Hull City side 1-0, with a goal after 80 minutes from Daniel Cousin, that sealed the win for the Tigers and sent Newcastle crashing out at the very first hurdle.

It was always going to be tough with 11 players out of the side though injury, and although Newcastle had the chances to score this was only Hull’s second win in 14 games and the second time they have beaten the Magpies at St. James’ Park this season,. After beating us in the league 2-1, in the first game after Kevin Keegan resigned from the club.

Si it wasn’t like we were playing a team in form but they were good enough and Hull City were able to record their first win since beating Middlesbrough 2-1 early last month.

The goal was scored in a game of few chances when Bernard Mendy‘s shot was deflected into the path of Richard Garcia who squared it nicely for Daniel Cousin, who turned the ball home from inside the six year area.

Andy Carroll was brought on after 76 minutes for Xisco, who had a decent game, and Carroll almost scored a late equalizer as he bundled a low Duff cross goal wards but the ball trickled wide off a Hull defender.

But the corner came to nothing, as Given had raced up to try to save the day.

This is a big psychological loss for the team because we would have had a home tie with Milwall, but now all we have to concentrate on is the league, and we have to hope we don’t have another relegation fight on our hands.

However, with Ashley still keeping his hands firmly in his pockets as far as transfer money goes, there will be due concern among the Newcastle faithful, that if we can be beaten by Hull City twice at home, that’s the mark of a team who could well be relegated this season.

Since we beat Tottenham, 2-1 at St. James’ Park, we have now lost three and drawn two, and if that doesn’t set alarm bells off at the club, then nothing will.

The good news, if we can call it that, is that this complete capitulation in the cup may scare Mike Ashley just enough for him to give some money to Joe Kinnear to buy some decent players in January.

If he doesn’t he could well own a Championship club come May, and it will be completely his fault, let’s make no mistake about that.

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252 comments so far

  • JonnyNufc

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:13 PM

    Comment #1

    Nothing will scare Mike Ashley until we get actually relegated.

    The guy is showing that he clearly could care less about Newcastle United.

    Or he is completely unaware as Kinnear has spelt out of how bad our situation is.

    The guy knows nothing about football atall…..he is unwilling to invest in our squad atall.

    We have gone from a brilliantly promising start under Keegan…drawing and easily matching the champions of Europe in our very first game…winning the next.

    To this pitiful excuse for a side.

    And we all know who is to blame really.

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  • Edinburgh Mag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM

    Comment #2

    We are in the shit!

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  • pdidy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:16 PM

    Comment #3

    He wont spend a penny!

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  • tino97

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

    Comment #4

    Just listened to the game. Pretty P!ssed off tbh!

    There is 2 ways to look at it:

    Firstly we got beat by a Hull reserve side, who hardly look like scoring and took their only chance. We have no creativity in the middle and no one who can take a decent free kick or corner. Need some players. With Martins out, there is no pace, no power! The result will have a detremental effect on our confidence, plus we have wasted a good chance for a good cup run and a win would have been a huge boost to the confidence!

    Secondly, We did have the most of the chances and on another day could have won fairly comfortably! Owen will score them on any another day. Being out might be a blessing in disguise. Though it was our strongest team possible, we still have lots of injuries 11 and counting. We should just forget the match and move on.

    Gettting beat might give Fat Ash an extra nudge in the transfer market. Doubt it a lot! But you never know!

    If I had the choice between beating Hull in the cup or 3 points on Saturday. I would take the 3 points. Staying in the league is the only important thing for this club.

    If these 2 loan deals fall through I’m taking the toaster in the bath!

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  • JonnyNufc

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:23 PM

    Comment #5

    Can someone explain to me what Sane owner of a football club, looks at our current squad, injuries, performances, manager, fans reaction

    players saying we need more players
    last manager saying we need more players
    current manager saying we need more players

    everyone with a brain recognising we need MORE PLAYERS

    And decides that the best option is not to invest in that team atall…..

    It really is beyond laughable. This twat needs to start speaking up on his intentions….

    He knows he hasnt spent money in the last 3 windows and that we hate him for it.

    What owner wanting to get amoungst the fans then doesnt come out and explain his actions, or why he wont invest, or the debt situation OR ANYTHING.

    An owner who is leeching the money in thats who.

    He thinks we’ll be fine no matter what and he can just suck up all the money from owning Newcastle & leave us adrift in the bottom half season after season.

    He is a greedy bastard & he deserves to be shunned by every single Newcastle fan until he shows AN OUNCE of caring about the side we have loved all our lives. Until then he doesnt deserve to be amoungst us.

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  • NotAGhostToon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:23 PM

    Comment #6

    Im still not pressing the panic button, don’t get me wrong i’m annoyed but there are some plusses and i’d rather focus on them.
    -By the sounds Xisco didn’t have a bad game, got clapped off, created chances etc. maybe with a start or two more would be alright
    -Lualua sounded good when he came on creating most of the chances, maybe he should start ahead of one of the more combative midfielders creativity being our main problem?
    -Now we can focus entirely on the league which is a major priority whats the point in our first cup if we hit the downward spiral of relegation
    -This will further highlight to Mr. Ashley the need for signings, loans, people, feet…anything to fill spaces!
    Keep hope, or at least try!

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  • Michael12

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM

    Comment #7

    Down but not out. Blackburn should beware of a backlash.

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM

    Comment #8

    I honestly dont care anymore about new signings.

    Lets face it who ever they are they not coming here to enhance their careers, its because their club thinks they are not good enough.

    By the end of Jan’ we should have a number of players back. I would like to think (pray) we would then have enough to survive……because lets face it thats all we have to look forward to now!

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  • Gordo

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM

    Comment #9

    Might sound a bit harsh but we now have no distractions. Concentrate on the league.Were we going to win the cup anyway?Doubt it 🙁

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  • DENIro

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #10

    sell wholw first team…just leave given.
    and we can play with our reserves and kods,they are better…

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  • joonzy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #11

    Right, just got in and it’s actually just dawned on me how we really are. JK rightly states we are missing several, but 9 of the 11 are pretty much starters. Given, Colo, Bassong, Charlie, Butt, Guthrie, Duff, Jonas and Owen are all first teamers. Edgar is decent but Xisco was a disgrace. He hasn’t played and is poor anyway but was thrown in ahead of reserve players who are on fire, scoring and desperate for the chance to shine. Godsmark was dumped from the bench at the last minute to cater for this arsehole Xisco. When JK got sent off I wondered if he had gone home as no decent coach could watch that and do nothing about it. We just looked TERRIBLE against the Hull B team. I’m so gutted it’s untrue. Had we played our kids and they’d lost but had a right go I wouldn’t have minded one jot. But to see 9 first choice players be so poor was awful. Almost none of our players give a shit about the club. Given, Colo, Bassong and Duff were trying their hardest with Owen his usual busy self. The other 6 were so poor. We need a new owner, new manager, 12 new players. Personally i’d give anything to have Shearer in asap alongside new owners. Gutted.

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  • Tom1664

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #12

    I mean, seriously – what did we do to deserve the years since Sir Bobby? Bad managerial decision after bad managerial decision under Shepherd, the destruction of the man we called king in the Keegan affair and now it seems we’re going to bring our heady spiral of self destruction full circle by undoing KK’s biggest legacy and dropping back into the championship.

    Sad, sad times.

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  • pdidy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:27 PM

    Comment #13

    We were just beaten by Hull reserves! Hit the panic button and there will be no backlash

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  • Edinburgh Mag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

    Comment #14

    The fact that we can concentrate on the league is the only positive you can take cos believe me with this shower of shite, there is only one way we are going and that is down!

    Lovenkrands? Dont make me laugh! Left wing is the last position we need a player for!

    Are they deliberately taking the piss?!!!

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  • DENIro

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

    Comment #15

    nufc reservrs are better than hull reserves…we should play them…

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #16

    Prediction for tomorrow

    Houghton to face media, Joe taking huff / fighting with someone / calling some one a $&*%….

    Blaaaa blaa blaaa…..disappointing

    Blaaaa blaa blaaa…..concentrate on league

    Blaaaa blaa blaaa…..big game blackburn

    Blaaaa blaa blaaa…..hope for new signings

    I never thought id say this but Newcastle United are getting predictable. We’re not even a roller coaster at the moment, because at least you get some highs on one of those things.

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  • NotAGhostToon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #17

    I’ll panic if we’ve not picked up the relevent points come the end of the west brom game, until then ill keep calm as a hindu cow, after then i may be on crimestoppers for mass murder. Here’s to hoping

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  • pubcat

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #18

    It sounds strange, but I’m not particularly bothered about the FA Cup! Maybe in years to come. If anything, I’m just as happy we’re not in it. so can focus on what really counts.

    Let’s hope the loan signings come to fruition!

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  • JonnyNufc

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #19

    This transfer window we now have a free signing perhaps coming in and two loans AT MOST.

    Kinnear has said himself that after that he will have to make do with what he has.

    This means that after 4 transfer windows, the owner of NUFC, one of biggest supported teams in all of England, with the 3rd biggest stadium etc has invested in his team a massive

    3 million.

    He’s soaking up the profits lads, he’s laughing at us.

    He’s deluded about it all. He reckons we’ll be fine and he can just suck up the money,

    ANY real football fan would have invested in us a long time ago. He’s here for the money…thats why he’s so tightfisted…we are simply a way for him to increase HIS wealth.

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  • Tom1664

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #20

    Seriously – if we do get relegated, anyone fancy a riot?

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  • RyanToon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #21

    well ive been hearing all week that were signing riquelme so theres still hope

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  • Aussie Toon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #22

    what a terrible result..although we would have won with owen on form, the fact is we had the best chances, we hit the crossbar and owen was a disgrace, he looked lost to be honest. he is supposed to be a match winner but hes lost us this game in my opinion.
    we need a new manager preferably shearer, a new owner and at least five new quality players to have any real chance of europe in the next few years.

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  • dcbashore

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #23

    Next six games will determine our fate, I reckon. And if today’s anything to go by, we’re in serious trouble.

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  • Ross

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #24

    The Real Entertainers-my prediction for tomorrow is as follows….

    well, JFK lost his marbles with phil brown tonight. After calling an emergency meeting with the board RE transfers yesterday, imagine how he’ll react if these loan deals dont go through. Come 4pm SSN will put out a bulletin confirming that yes the SJP boardrooms are on fire, and the authorities are thinking arson is a distinct possibility.
    None were hurt however, as all board members found the time appropriate to jet off to Vegas for a “team building exercise”. Joe Kinnear was sent a text from an unknown number at 3:30 claiming the club had been robbed, and all transfer funds were taken during the break in.

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  • Raffo

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #25

    How many first choice players were out? martins, beye and jose, not that much of an excuse esp as we were at home.

    We should have used the youth if the injuries caused so much of a worry. Sod the youth cup, first team affairs should be priority

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  • JonnyNufc

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:37 PM

    Comment #26

    A free transfer and two loans ffs!!!!!!

    FFS

    3 million invested in us over 4 transfer windows.

    He’s taking your money.

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  • Gordo

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #27

    RyanToon how sure are you about Riquelme?

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  • Flop

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #28

    On another day we would have won, just a case of missed chances costing us, Hull took their only decent chance and even that was a fluke. We have no excuses now totally focused on league survival.
    Be interesting tomorrow to hear the excuses when no loan signings turn up.

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  • RyanToon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #29

    gordo

    70%

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  • IrishMan

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #30

    Ed,

    Your site is mirroring the team tonight – painfully slow.

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  • Martins9

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #31

    Unfortunately I really do think we are buggered well and truly now.

    Getting beat off Hull reserves screams of the day we got stuffed off Birmingham and Wigan reserves.

    I level no blame at Kinnear for team selection, as he does the best with what he has. The harsh reality is that al lot of the players we have just aren’t good enough. We need a decent defensive midfielder who can actually protect our wobbly back four, and secondly we need a creative midfielder desperately.

    I really am starting to think that Spurs hired Mike Ashley to buy our club and ruin it. I F***ing hate Spurs with a passion. Where they get the money from I don’t know, perhaps Ashley gives them money. I mean they just bid £10 million for Palacios from Wigan on top of already buying Defoe.

    Where did the Milner money go apart from on Gregg’s pasties for the Fat Mike.

    Unless he gives us some money we really are knackered, I am at my lowest as Newcastle supporter at the moment. It makes me quite sad at just how S*** we are now!

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  • oba_9

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #32

    just got back from SJP
    absolutely terrible. team and fans. i was in the leazes and there was only me and about 8 others singing.
    the team were diabolical to say the least. MO shoulda scored. duff was awful. we got beat by hull reserves and kinnear didnt help by getting sent off. we are an absolute shambles at the minute.
    i am absolutely foaming, but will still be at blackburn on saturday. HOWAY THE LADS. TOON FOR LIFE

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  • daltzzzz17

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #33

    Bassong is a God, he was once again outstanding!

    just a pity the rest arnt very good

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  • Californication

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #34

    Let’s try not to dwindle over this result for too long shall we? You have to remember that this game had absolutley no bearing on our season whatsoever. If we struggle to pick up points during our next three games, that will probably be a more appropriate time to be despondent. But please, don’t beat yourselves up because we are out of the bloody cup!

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #35

    The problem Newcastle have in attracting new players is what do we have to offer them.

    Come and play for us we’re fighting relegation and thats it!

    Oh and dont expect decent wages anymore either

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  • Spitfire

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #36

    Pitiful absolutely pitiful. Just when you think it can’t get any worse …it does. At least i will save the cost of a couple of season tickets next season cos there is no way I am giving any more money to Ashley. I am so depressed now. I can’t see any light on the horizon.

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  • Toon1978

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #37

    If Riquelme had any sense AT all he would jump on the earliest plane possible and go back to where he came from. thinking to himself “NOT PLAYING WITH THEM IDIOTS”

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #38

    Predicted a defeat…we are in a mess.
    I mean FFS it was another Hull Reserve team…we should have played the kids in the first match..the whole senior team stinks.

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  • Gordo

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #39

    RyanToon hope your right would take him in a minute.Any word on the other loan?

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  • sparko

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #40

    it only takes one chance as hull showed owen needs to get his shooting boots on also we dont score enough goals from midfield.we need more than loan signing mercenaries we need people who are proud to wear the shirt

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