Kinnear Confronts Ashley To Improve Newcastle Squad

Whether you like Joe Kinnear or not, there’s one thing you can hardly argue with about the man – and that is he is a football man through and through and knows a bit about how to run a football club.


Mike Ashley – Scrooge in disguise?  –   we hope not

But yesterday was the tipping point for Joe, as three more of his players went down injured in training and Joe now has an amazing 11 senior players out through injury.

And with the squad so fragile, and no players being signed – aprt from those that don’t have up front fees or small ones in the case of loan signings, it looks like we may well have two loan signings and free agent Peter Lovenkrands by the end of the week.

But what Joe is arguing for is more players and to do that he must wheel and deal and sell players first, which looks like it’s very difficult, and just not happening.

To be fair to Ashley his fortune has been cut in half in the last year, and it’s not a good time to shell out money, because of the financial mess around the world, we know that.

But we think Joe Kinnear may well be trying to get some funds out of  Mike him because we need now at least 5 new players brought in and probably more to overcome the burgeoning injury crisis, which has reared its ugly head on Tyneside, and not for the first time.

Mike Ashley has to decide whether he can shell out about £10M so Joe can bring in two or three decent players in January, because what we are seeing right now is the nightmare scenario.

Apparently Joe would have liked to have signed the two loan players, but was told no money was available from the owner.

Of course we are njot the only club that has no money available to buy players in January, David Moyes at Everton has been told no money will be available until the summer, but Everton are not in a relegation fight.

Like all Newcastle fans we are completely dedicated to our home town club, and the club’s fortunes probably mean a lot more to us than they should, so when we see out manager having to fight to improve the squad – there’s something wrong somewhere with this sleeping giant of a club.

Joe Kinnear may not be the best manager in the world, and he has his faults like the rest of us, but we’re right behind the feisty Irishman on this one and his total commitment to improve the team.

A question to Mike Ashley – why aren’t you right behind Joe too?

Comments welcome.

47 comments so far

  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #1

    As NUFC.COM put it :

    So let’s get this right – it’s January 13th and they’re just sitting down for a jolly old chinwag now? Was everything in the SJP garden really rosy until Carroll, Taylor and Enrique reported injuries? Are these people blind – or deliberately trying to drag this club down?

    When we thought that our-short term thinking extended only to getting through to the end of the season intact, we were totally wrong – that’s a long-term strategy
    round these parts…..what an absolute shambles.

    My sentiments exactly!!!!

  • Norway_the_lads

    Jan 14, 2009 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #2

    “The chairman [Llambias] was at home and I said, ‘no, you need to come in. Come up tonight, we need to talk and get cracking’.”

    That tells it all about our f*g Chairman… Get this *** out of SJP!!!

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #3

    Only one way to get the message through to the fat bufoon – stay away tonigh!!!
    If fatash is unwilling to invest in the club – why should we invest in him (where has the money gone from Milner, 3 years season tickets etc etc etc).

  • Norway_the_lads

    Jan 14, 2009 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #4

    “The chairman [Llambias] was at home and I said, ‘no, you need to come in. Come up tonight, we need to talk and get cracking’.”

    This tells it all about our Chairman!.. Get him out!

  • Mark-o

    Jan 14, 2009 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #5

    I agree also Mr Entertainers.

    The chances of Ashley putting his chubby fingers into his pockets are quite slim so lets hope for some loan signings or cast offs from the big spenders i.e. Citeh.

    I’d love to see Steven Ireland, Garrido and Sturridge comeing here from the Blues but i doubt it very much.

    Any idea’s on who the loan signings are? Itallian and Argie?!?!?

    And on another note, Ed you wrote on a previous post that in order to raise funds we have to sell, possibly Xisco, however you have already reported a few weeks ago that we cant sell him this season as he has already been registered to 2 clubs and you cant have 3 or more clubs in a season.

    Otherwise spot on!

  • Ericles

    Jan 14, 2009 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #6

    I still seriously doubt Ashley’s sincerity towards NUFC. JK must now see what KK protested about? We do not have a squad in depth and we are plagued by injuries. Joe, you are not going to remedy this by 7.45 tonight so, please, give the youngsters a chance. I know they will not let the fans or you down. Looks like Zog will be at LB. Oh no – does that mean another whinge to L’Equipe?

  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #7

    Regardless to what happens come the start of Feb’. Even if Ashley does get his wallet out and spends decently this window.

    We have to remember what has happened so far.

    We must keep ‘construtive’ pressure on Ashley and co.
    If hes here to stay i’m fine with that. But only if he truely wants to move forward and make changes!!

    He must make changes, try starting with LISTENING.

  • campo67

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #8

    i think the italian player might be oliver dacourt. i have read something on setanta that suggests we have made an enquiry about him. not sure if he is italian though!!

    any thoughts?

  • campo67

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #9

    no my mistake he is french

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #10

    Real – he has had every opportunity to show his intentions – this latest ‘expensive’ loan signings (400K & 450K) to me shows that he is not interested in investing – he want to keep EPL status on a shoestring and sell in the summer.
    Unfortunately I cant see it working – these players are on their clubs bench for a reason and at the prices being quoted I cant see them being world beaters.

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #11

    What ‘constructive pressure’ do you think will work??

  • Pons Aelius

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #12

    Looks like this window is going to be the final acid test for Ashley. The club are in dire need of investment. We need more quality players or we are going down.

    If Ashley has any sense as a businessman he will recognise this.

  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #13

    Total Shambles in my opinion…like I have said before the club is rotten from the bottom to the top.

    These over paid prima donnas will be off the moment we are relegated,no fight,no passion,no pride.
    Hull will give us a humbling tonight I am sure.

  • El Geordieo

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #14

    Gettin JK I thought u were fat bastards puppet but you showed you want whats best for the club and not for Ashleys wallet!

  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #15

    JK said a while ago that Funds would be made available and so did Mike..I wish Ashley would go so we can move on..he is like a noose around the clubs neck.

  • Prince Bassong

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #16

    BlacknWhite Barmy, perhaps we should organise a picket line at his stores (there must be a good number of stores that could be covered around the country) and stop people investing in him. I’m certain there are many who’d be more than happy to not give us any money.

  • Shanghaitoon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #17

    Ed, I think we ceased to be a “sleeping giant of a club” a long time ago. Were comatose at best and more likely dead!

    If every one of 50,000 fans all sent 100 pounds to a fund, we could have 2.5Mil to give to Joe for a player… just a thought.

    Anyone remember Marvin the paranoid android? Oh God, I’m so depressed!!!

  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #18

    Let’s try and be objective – forget the rumours in the papers re ridiculous players and snubs etc. They are undoubtedly unsubstantiated nonsense with only the intention of selling papers and inevitably causing a surge in blood pressure amonst us Mags. However, what are the last two meaningful messages to come out of NUFC in recent weeks? Harris tells us “Mike Ashleys hasn’t said he’s back in charge….”. Now JK informs us the chairman is not on red alert, they seem to be only suddenly aware mid-January as a collective that there is a real problem with the squad and he’s implying that things aren’t going according to plan. Now I don’t want to add to the doom-mongering for the sake of it but let’s be honest, they’re not exactly signs of “2009 being the year we drive this club forward together” are they?

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #19

    Shanghai – your as bad as Ash – were did the rest of the money go? lol :{

  • Born Again Geordie

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #20

    Come on Mr Ashley support JFK and get us some signings in. Now is your chance to get some of the toon army back on your side !!!

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #21

    Prince – I wouldnt go near a Sports Direct Store – even to picket – its JJB for me all the way.

  • Spyro

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #22

    Apparently Geremis injured now aswell. Not as epic loss by any means, but just another name to add to the ever growing list. Its like we get one player back and another 2 player (or 4 in this case) get crocked.

  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #23

    Agree Bowburn Mag…the squad is dead on it’s feet and no real investment will happen.


  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #24

    Transfer rumors today on official site made me laugh.

    Toon Transfer Talk: January 14
    This section of is merely a record of speculation and does not in any way reflect who Newcastle United may or may not be targeting …

    THIS morning’s newspapers see Joe Kinnear refute claims that Newcastle United are interested in signing West Ham’s Nigel Quashie or Aston Villa’s Nicky Shorey.

    The pair had been linked with moves to the North East in recent days but the Toon chief told reporters at Tuesday’s press conference that he is not interested in either player.

    Meanwhile, The Journal suggests that United midfielder Geremi could be on his way to Turkish side Besiktas.

    And it is widely reported that Danish winger Peter Lovenkrands will sign a deal with the Magpies until the end of the season

  • Shanghaitoon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #25

    Just a thought… are all these players REALLY injured or just don’t want to play for us anymore?? which other team has had so many players out injured at one time?

  • Raffo

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #26

    Worried, very very worried.

    Im no business brain but speculate to accumulate?!?!

    Any fool looking at our club from the outside knows what we need so why cant they?!

    It strikes me the same as others have said, he is looking to flog us in the summer, or sooner if someone offers him what he wants. Do we think with his statement promises that if he was offered the money he wouldnt walk away at any point prior to the end of the season? He will go as soon as he can.

    I am very fearful that we will just have to make do with championship players, loans and maybe journeymen that will have our hopes pinned on them.

    The funny thing for me is that whilst we look down the table, we arent all that far away from climbing the table! Some real investment and we could seriously turn the season around.


  • Toon_Sydney

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #27

    shanghaitoon- one time? its been one time for about 5 years

    Bring Mort in and 5 decent player

  • Toon_Sydney

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #28

    Newcastle United boss Joe Kinnear could revive a bid for Stephen Appiah.

    The Evening Chronicle says Kinnear has revealed he was set to sign Ghana midfielder Stephen Appiah before the former Fenerbahce ace took up a trial with Tottenham.

    Appiah’s move to Spurs has stalled, which could open the door for Kinnear.
    id like him why didnt he go to spurs? was it pay or fitness?

  • Tom1664

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #29

    “Scrooge in disguise” Ed? He’s doing a lousy job hiding his true form!

  • Tom1664

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #30

    Toon Sydney – It’s tribal football, wouldn’t get your hopes up. I’d only see JK moving for him if one of the loanees fell through.

  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #31

    sirjason – what depresses me as much as anything are the amateurish, contradictory messages. We all know the state of the club at present and yet we make noises about doing ‘this’, then say we’re going to do ‘that’ and then finally we rest on ‘the other’. There is such a sense of deja vu it’s almost comical. Instead of KK there is JK. Instead of the summer, it’s January. Everything else is horribly familiar. A lone voice in the wilderness crying out for help. JK should perhaps ask KK his thoughts on the current situation.

  • Archie Brand

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #32

    Not sure how what you have written actually adds up to Kinnear “fighting” Ashley.

    Funny that Kinnear has said that he will only bring in players that will improve the squad. I suppose that when you have to start playing the kids , then just about anyone would improve the squad.

    I hope LuaLua gets a game and does well tonight.

    I think part of Kinnears charm is that he says what he’s thinking, and the fans think that they are getting information.
    But his big problem is he doesnt know when to keep his mouth shut. When stuff doesnt come off he ends up looking a tosser, and the fans slag the club off for spouting garbage.

    To be fair to Ashley – If I”d lost almost a billion quid over the past year I dont think I’d want to start flashing the cash either.

    So much for the credit crunch – 100 million for Kaka? I live in the Middle East and they like to give the impression that they are so wealthy that things like a global recession dont apply to them.

    Good job, cos they wont get their money back on Kaka when he decides Manchester is not to his liking.

    Maybe we could then pick him up on loan for 500K……..

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #33

    I see the Quashie rumour has started again – if thats the level of player we are after it will be a long time till I venture back to SJP

  • Kirill of Russia

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #34

    Ashley – bastard cockney…

  • Micky Toon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #35

    I would welcome anyone in to the club on the playing staff. We need an injection of new blood to kick start the team. The current players are probably sick to their back teeth of what is going on and are probably stuck in a rut. A couple of fresh faces might help to give an outsiders view. Actually stuff that an outsiders view is probably worse than ours! 🙂
    I’m not one for rumours or speculation, but my gut feeling is that Ashley has someone lined up to buy the club in the summer, so he’s not going to spend heavy today. He’s probably agreed to this as part of the deal.
    At least I hope that’s the case. 🙁

  • Nick 69

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #36

    isnt it funny how all of the ashley lovers who said he was great for the club, arent on here these days, i hope they are realising exactly what i knew from day one, THEY COULDNT BE MORE WRONG AND ASHLEY IS A FAT TIGHT CNUT WHO ONLY WANTS 1 THING!!!!

  • Nick 69

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #37

    micky toon – i sincerely hope your right regarding a sale being lined up, it wud actually make sense if that was the case

  • Angryman the Angry fan

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #38

    Stardust, where are you

    Determined to have your comments and opinions on the ‘MOB’ That work at NUFC.COM, I will be glad to pass your comments on to BIFFA whom i know extermely well…………

    After all they are only saying what I have indeed stated for weeks months years now, but I am a trouble maker and not a ‘real’ fan am i??

    Which, if being fair, would mean that neither are Biffa and Niall who run NUFC.COM??

    Oh yes, your opinion on this is now very very welcome indeed!!

  • Nick 69

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #39

    angryman- stardust is pathetic mate, probly not see much of him now that its obvious people lyk me and you were right all along, he calls himself a ‘real fan’, but i dunno how a real fan can support the total destruction of our club, cos thats all ashley is doing, real fans seen staright thro fat ash from the start.

  • Steve R

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #40

    What about the money we got from the late Milner transfer? We only spent 5,5mil on Xisco so we should (theoretically) still have 6,5mil?

    Think Joe had to got to the press like he has just to show NUFC fans just what a pr!ck Ashley is. ASHLEY needs to decide:
    1-Spend no money and let the team stand a probable chance of being relegated or
    2- Spend like 5-8mil for a couple of good or one amazing player.


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