Kinnear Lays Out Transfer Status In Detail


A mini crisis has evolved at Newcastle with Joe Kinnear pleading with owner Mike Ashley for some transfer funds in January so he can ensure Newcastle stay in the Premiership this season, and Joe is not kidding – not kidding at all.

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Joe Kinnear – Mike – this is how many players I need in January!

Kinnear pleaded his case yesterday at a hastily arranged meeting with managing director Derek Llambias, forced by Joe to actually travel to Newcastle for the meeting, football secretary Lee Charnley and assistant manager Chris Hughton, according to the local Newcastle Journal today, which has done a good job of getting a lot of information out of manager Kinnear about the current situation.

Owner Mike Ashley was in contact by telephone and the message from the manager was that he needs fresh funds to bring in some new players, as he is concerned, apparently very concerned, there is a real danger of the club being relegated in May, if the squad is not vastly improved in both quality and numbers.

The injury mess we are in right now is not helping things either and Joe said:

“We will go through all the ideas we have for players and put the ball in Mike’s court.”

Kinnear has claimed Newcastle have agreed a fee for the sale of one of his players, and that could well be Besiktas target Geremi.

The transfer fee and saved wages through the end of the season amount to £4.5M, but that would mean a fee of around £3M for Geremi which seems a little high, so maybe the player could be Xisco.

Joe continued:

“That will go into the pot to get someone else,” “Talks are ongoing and he has to decide with his wife if he wants to go.”“That will suck up one player but we need two or three. If we get the loans and get Peter on Friday that will be three new faces.”

“I will then have to bite the bullet until the rest are fit.”

“I am aware of the situation. We are just three points ahead of Spurs.”

Of the prospective loan signings, Kinnear said:

“They’re central midfielders. One Argentine, one Italian. They’re both internationals but not playing in the Premier League. They are fringe players but have experience, which we need.”“They’re on the bench for their current clubs and I will know about those in 48 hours. If they are okay we should be in better shape for Blackburn.”

“But the club may have offered the same deals elsewhere and others may be prepared to pay more.”

Out-of-contract former Rangers winger Lovenkrands is on a week-long trial and Joe said:.

“It looks okay,” “He has accepted an offer until the end of the season.”

“Hopefully we can make something permanent at the end of the week.”

So Joe has nicely laid out the situation and we just hope the two central midfielders, who we need badly, will come to Newcastle, along with Lovenkrands, and then we’ll be in much better shape by the end of the week.

But Joe seemingly wants to press in for maybe another two or three players to get the team over our injury crisis, and up the league, and he also knows if he can do that his chances to continue as manager will be high, and it’s an opportunity he seems absolutely committed to make the very most of – a dream job for him which came completely out of the blue.

Joe will know the Newcastle fans, as well as the players are right behind him, and he’s done absolutely the right and responsible actions in letting Mike Ashley and the Board know what he thinks, and if they don’t improve the squad in January the onus will be on completely on the shoulders of Mike Ashley and the Board.

It will also show players like Given and Owen, that Joe is committed to building a strong side at Newcastle, maybe in spite of owner Ashley, because he still wants both players at the club come next September.

If Mike Ashley doesn’t end up come early February with a vastly improved squad for Kinnear there will no doubt be more calls for him to sell the club in the summer, to someone who has the ambition for Newcastle United that matches that of the fans.

But this also a great opportunity for Mike to show he is indeed committed to making Newcastle United great again, and it’s a chance he seemingly must take.

We need a club as good as the fans , and then we’d really be on our way.

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55 comments so far

  • dougnufc

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #1

    Both CM? How about LB?

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #2

    Loan signings are just not the way to move forward…we drag our heels in every window and it looks more likely than ever we will sign no decent players on perm deals in this window or stay in the premiership.

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  • greatnavi

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #3

    Well can anybody tell who the two players are?

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  • Shot Bru

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #4

    Considering all the players we’ve been linked to in the SPL i reckon the Italian is Massimo Donati

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  • Toon_Sydney

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #5

    sirjasontoon- what else can we do fat mike wont open his chunky $800million pocket.
    Both CM and a winger/striker

    what happened to backline being the main focus

    Both players arent in the epl, at least it aint dossena but i hope we can get 5 at the end of this transfer

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  • greatnavi

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #6

    Anyway Newcastle will need at least 3 more besides these three as ‘ Given’ is sure to leave for Spurs and so is the ever speaking NZogbia.But hopefully we will be getting about 16 Mill for both ( 8 + 8) and we already have a subsitute for Given thats harper and that Danish fellow for NZogbia. So we can go ahead and get Bale from Spurs, Warnock from Blackburn to help us finishing in the top 8.

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  • Prince Bassong

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #7

    To quote the great philosopher, Homer Simpson:

    “I’m laughing, but it’s a laugh of impatience!”

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  • DanToon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #8

    Loans loans loans, we’re just living from on transfer window to the other! Not good. Ashley Out!!

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  • sweendog

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #9

    defo. saviola I reckon.. not sure what wages we are offering .. then the italian .. not sure .. did Kinnear defo say CM??

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  • dougnufc

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #10

    Hopefully the Italian is Luca Cigarini, he can pass, tackle, and he played for Italy’s Olympic team plus he only played 6 games for Atlanta. So I think he might be one of our targets.

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  • toonarmy09

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #11

    sweendog -they are both midfielders ,saviola is a forward .Ithink gattuso could be 1 ,maybe d’alessandro the other .

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  • Troy Stavers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #12

    Owen, Martins and Given must be inspired by Ashley, Llambias and Wise and their big plans for the club!! How can they consider leaving when we are bringing in such big names. Owen must be intimidated by the likes of Lovenkraands! It must be like Ronaldo being told titus bramble is gonna be his new team mate. “Oh, great, that gives me confidence to push forward and not worry about the defence!”

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  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #13

    What’s Totti doing these days?….

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  • craig s chisholm

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #14

    since ashley has came in he has destroyed us in every way. look at us now, the way the managwer is having to plead in public for transfer funds from the shitbag that owns us – this after ashley said money would be available and that he was gonig to drive us forward in 2009. He is driving us into the ground ffs. so now that all our dirty laundry has been washed in public so openly how the hell are we ever gonig to atteact any kind of decent player to ashleys club?? no chance is the answer. the fact that ashley is worth less now is irrelevant (or should be) to newcastle united. the club is self sufficiant and all he needs to do is plough back into the club the profit that he is sconstantly skimming off for other ventures. we are not asking the turd to dip into his owen 800 million are we. as a matter of fact, ashleys group did 8-10% increased profit in the last results announced in december. the bloke has no real excuse for lettign us become the joke that we are. with owen, butt, given, zogs, harper, martind all wanting to go, plus jfk says another 4.5 million player going which will be either barton given very very soon, plus geremi leaving etc, what the hell is going on at nufc??
    i think that we need to have a 100% boycott in going to games from now on until we get this through to our mental owner. he is not supporting us or the team so why should we support him. and to think he has increased season ticket prices by 10% this season too – FOR WHAT???

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  • Troy Stavers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #15

    This is like deja vu! With the Kay Kay situation. A demand to meet the board about the lack of transfer funds!. I can only assume Kay Kay was told he wouldn’t have any funds in January as well and therefore thought, ” Well I could stay and fight til January and put the pressure on the board leading up to the window. Oh, no, I cant even do that cos i’m contracted not to talk about transfer policies!”. “Better leave, its for the better of the club cos its the only way to put pressure on Ashley”. It’s all coming clear now about the Kay Kay situation. ALL YOU DOUBTERS ABOUT THE MESSIAH NEED TO LOOK AT YOURSELF NOW! HE HAD NO CHOICE!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #16

    Mr blood pressure raised last night, dipped a bit and now this morning the pre-match anticipation has kicked in and for me its boiling my piste!

    Do you think it has dawned on JFK that the hieracy at NUFC are pathetic? They dont see to show any drive and ambition.

    Take MA for example. This bloke is worth £800 Million at last report yeah, how much is a player £10Mil say for good one or two that leaves approx £780mil of a vast fortune.

    I dont think we would be this hept up if we were say 9 – 7 points ahead that what we are and if our injury least wasnt so vast and players shot their gob off (ZOG).

    What the hell is going on at training? I looked on NUFC website and they always have at least one pic of the team being stupid. If this has led to an injury then they ned to cut it out and be more careful – + on the press conferene vid where they show shots of the team etc there was one of what can be viewed as a harsh tackle for a training match!

    Ive said this before – we are cursed. Get a exorcist to bless the boardroom, changing room, training pitch, pitch and dug out.

    You may think that daft but like Tesco – Every little helps!!!

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #17

    I am a huge Keegan supporter and alwasy will be. Hes one of my all time heros.

    But can we please move on ?

    I know Ashley has brought this on himself, but come on lets look for solutions not excuses.

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  • NE3 NICK

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #18

    Troy, not according to Peter Beardsley…

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  • Raffo

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #19

    I live near Barnsley as a result I dont get to games very often. Another downer is the fact that alot of the yockels dont like the toon and I am constantely hearing jibes and so on. They all think we are another Leeds in the making, and I am fearful that they may be right.

    I am very worried about the club. Im not actually that bothered about Owen leaving, maybe not even Zog, Barton at a oush and Given if it is essential. What does worry me is the calibre of the replacements, cos even the good players want to play with other good players, lets forget world class players as we aint going to have them again for a while.

    Gone are the glory days im afraid, and wtf is that bout Kaka and man city?! I cant believe the figures being quoted! It is obscene. Something needs to be done, wage cap etc or the grass roots will continue to suffer and I think we will have another breakaway league.

    We may do well in that league!!!

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  • SpartanChris

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #20

    Where is davidcraig now with his predictions of big star signings and stardust defending Ashley. If Ashley’s own mouthpiece manager is now going public with his concerns, what does that tell us about the state of the club?

    Why does Derek Llambias not reside in Newcastle? Even Chris Mort who was always going to be temporary, spent the majority of his time here.

    I assume (hope) Dennis Wise was not present because he is out and about looking for players.

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  • Troy Stavers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #21

    Beardsley supports every manager, trainer, chairman come what may. What a legend of a footballer but as a crawler, ive seen none better. Lets get one thing straight. Kay Kay doubters said he should have stayed til January so he could put pressure on the board. You’s all thought that would work. The fact is, we are now seeing what KK was probably told, ” NO MONEY IN JANUARY AND YOU ARE CONTRACTED NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT”. Jay Eff Kay can only put up with it for so long, cos if a better offer comes his way and make no mistake about it, he has got himself right back up there, as a real premiership manager, he would be off like a shot to build up a small club like he did with Wimbledon where expectations aren’t quite so high. Despite what he says about managing a great club, history has proven that managers can only take the stress at this club for so long. He is not immortal.

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  • Shot Bru

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #22

    Raffo i live outside newcastle as well and the local hicks give me the same grief, as well as my mates, the thing they can’t get their heads around is the fact we have Joe Kinnear in charge, they reckon it’s hilarious.

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  • geordiejp

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #23

    Guys to know exactly what Ashley is all about, at the end of the transfer window all you need to ask yourself is where has all the money gone from the milner transfer (12 Mill) and if nowt happens this transfer window we need to get Ashley out as soon as possibe !!! or we will get relegated, its just lucky for us that there are 10 teams in the bottom half within 5 points of eachother.

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  • Kash

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #24

    Does anybody have any ideas of Italian and Argentinian Internationals who aren’t currently playing for their clubs? It can’t be that difficult to ascertain if looking at who’s been capped by their respective countries!!!

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  • Troy Stavers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #25

    SpartonChris,
    I know Stardust very well and he is not the brightest of individuals. He is 5ft 3inches tall, has a centre parton with curtains, a skinny frame with a pot belly and has never kicked a football in his life. You need to stop worrying about the little creep and his poisoness views. If you saw him you wouldn’t bother having a conversation with him. Believe me!

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  • Spyro

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #26

    Sick of hearing this where did the Milner money go Malarkey. We didnt get 12 million for starters, it was closer to 9 becouse of a sell on clause when we signed him from Leeds. Then we signed Xisco for 6-7 million. So we where left with 3 million tops from the Milner deal.

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  • a.l 9

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #27

    So have I got this right then?

    Keegan was not allowed to make his own signings as the directors were brought in to do that.

    Keegan walked because of this.

    Now Kinear will not be given any money to spend incase the new manager coming in wants diferent players?

    How the feck does that work? Why are they not bringing in the Jonas’, Bassong’s and the Guthrie’s of the last window in? Is it because they were realy Keagans singnings? No-one knows.

    Also what is Mikes pan? Why will he not tell us? If it’s to make a self profit then why doesn’t he just sell the club, take a nice £200m and be done with it.

    Why were the board sitting at home during the transfer widow? Why aren’t they working there arses off trying to find players to bring in?

    Bunch of tossers the lot of them

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  • Robby Bobson

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #28

    Toon_Geordie

    I think you are simplyfying things when you say he has 800million fortune so a ten million pound player will leave him with 790 million. That doesnt mean hes got 800million sitting in the bank accout, obvisouly about 200 million of that is n the toon.

    However, other clubs, namely Spurs are spendeng widely, and even with are reduced crowds we still have around 47,000 there a game and who in Newcastle doesnt own a replica shirt and Tv deals are ridiculous at the moment.

    The only reason, apart from being a money brabbing blank, is that Kinnear is not the man he wants and has someone else lined up in the summer who will want to build his own squad.

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  • Raffo

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #29

    Shot bru

    As a toon fan, I think the fact we have JK as manager is hilarious!!!!!

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  • Born Again Geordie

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #30

    I don’t care who is manager for the rest of this season as long as we stay in the premiership!

    JK is here till then face it and get on !

    I am sick to death of people bemoaning our situation, well sh*t happens and as a NUFC fan you have to accept it.

    To quote a Guinness advert from a few years ago………….

    ‘ Not everything in black and white makes sense ‘

    Welcome to the crazy world of Newcastle United Football Club !!!

    Ho’way the lads !!!

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  • Sav

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #31

    Tell you what, I feel sorry for JFK. Anyone who knows what its like to have had a shit for a boss will sympathise, and lets face it, Joe has a beaut.
    Injuries all over the shop, relegation threatening, lowest and shortest contract of any Prem manager, N’Zogbia, his 2 best players planning to leave asap, Press who laugh at his rants, Dennis Wise, Fans who don’t rate him, Mike Ashley, No cash, Derek Llambiarse, heart trouble?…and did I mention N’Zogbia?
    Its looking like his patience and diplomacy on Ashley’s behalf is wearing thin now. If he drags the directors into the daylight and pulls off some valuable signings to save our collective ass in April, he’ll be a ruddy hero, and no mistake.

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  • Micky Toon

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #32

    When someone is said to be worth £x million it doesn’t mean they have that money sitting in a bank account or stuffed in shoe boxes in their wardrobe. It takes into account all of the persons assets, ie their business interests, their houses, cars, etc..
    So what ever Ashley is worth he doesn’t have the money in a bank account just ready to dip into whenever he feels like.
    Also his other business interests probably wouldn’t take kindly to him taking that money and investing it in a football club in the north east and allowing them to go to the wall. I’ve said it before we are just one arm of his enterprise and he only has a limited amount of time to spend with us. Where ashley messed up was by not getting in the right people to run the club.
    If anyone really wants to look into the club’s report then all you need to do is spend a fiver at companies house, here’s the link to all business names that are registered at SJP.

    http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/45c3d5267b533c7b4250071cb4165b38/companysearch?disp=1&frfsh=1231934803#result

    Personally I can’t be bothered.

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  • Paul.

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #33

    troy stavers – bang on m8

    a.l 9 – bassong was definately a keegan signing, as was guthrie, jonas i think was scouted before being recommended to kk.

    would prefer fat fred to this c*(**, and tbh now i dont believe what fat ash said about the debts etc…as fat fred was a toon fan, why would he let the club get in so much debt?? and fat fred even came out n said the financial situation wasnt bad like ashley said….

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  • THE MAGPIE

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #34

    When Ashley floated Sports Direct he got 929m in cash of which 250m has gone on the club so that leaves 679m in cash. Unless its been lost on speculating on HBOS shares or roulette wheels or buying back Sports Direct shares.
    679m at 5% interest is 34m in interest-but the bloke is always pleading poverty. In truth he is only interested in Sports Direct and Newcastle is a hobby he doesnt want to spend money on and clearly never has wanted to spend money on.

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  • Sav

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #35

    Spyro, isn’t that saying effectively we sold James Milner for just 9 million, not the ‘too good to turn down’ fee of 12 million?

    And if we (ie.Wise and the other bloke whose name I can’t be bothered to look up now) then blew 6.7 million on Disco Xisco and Nacho’s wages, that seems like a pretty bad deal for NUFC Inc.?
    – A proven Prem performer, never an ounce of trouble, fit as a butcher’s dog who the then manager said we want to keep, just 22 and hovering on international status swapped for an unknown Spanish lad who’d played about 40 times for Deportivo. And a loanee crock.

    Doesn’t look such a good deal now, does it?

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  • Steve R

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #36

    anyone have any news on the two “expensive” loan deals Joe is speaking about? I seriously think if they include a LB and a striker we might not even have to bring in a fourth (Central-mid), if the Lovenkrands deal definitely goes through.

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  • workyticket

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #37

    Troy Stavers // Jan 14, 2009 at 11:05 AM

    “ALL YOU DOUBTERS ABOUT THE MESSIAH NEED TO LOOK AT YOURSELF NOW! HE HAD NO CHOICE!”

    Yawn. Have a word with yourself Troy.

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  • ToonTinka

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #38

    This Mike Ashley is doing my head clean in.

    More lies, lies, and more lies.

    Does he think where stupid or what? Where is all the cash Mike?????

    Anyone who can’t see why KK walked out of their needs to have a good look at how the club is being ran! None of the less he still should of stayed until January, but had every right to walk away.. These are proper muppets these lot.

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  • Girth

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #39

    spyro
    Sick of hearing this where did the Milner money go Malarkey. We didnt get 12 million for starters, it was closer to 9 becouse of a sell on clause when we signed him from Leeds. Then we signed Xisco for 6-7 million. So we where left with 3 million tops from the Milner deal.
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    Add to that it was more than likely agreed to be paid in instalments!

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  • workyticket

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #40

    THE MAGPIE // Jan 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM

    “When Ashley floated Sports Direct he got 929m in cash of which 250m has gone on the club so that leaves 679m in cash. Unless its been lost on speculating on HBOS shares or roulette wheels or buying back Sports Direct shares.”

    He bought back Sports Direct shares Magpie, for a much lower price than he sold them for. He has also been buying other sports and leisure companies too.

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