Magpies Squad As Good As Any Outside Top Four – Butt

Nicky Butt is arguing today that the Newcastle squad, in terms of quality if not quantity, is as good as any squad outside the top four clubs in England.


Nicky Butt – we have a good squad but wants to see new players this month

The 33 year old former Manchester United star, who has still to sign his contract extension at the club, believes the quality in our squad is better than mnost people realize.

Nicky, who returns for tonight’;s game against Hull City said today:

“If you look round our squad, it’s as good as any team outside the top four,” “But when one or two injuries start becoming long term, and if there’s a suspension here and there, it starts to get thinner.”

“That’s why hopefully it will be a busy January (in the transfer market) for us.”

Hull City are just two places outside of European qualification, but they are on a bad ruin and in their last 12 league games they have won one, drawn four, and lost seven, and are still 4 points ahead of Newcastle, but with an inferior goal difference.

Newcastle are delicately placed with just 4 points off 8th place and 3 points off the bottom three.

Nicky continued:

“You look up at teams in the table and think we are better than them, but it has always been said the table never lies and it’s true,”

“Hull have come into the Premier League on a high and carried on in the same vein.”

“You always find one team that comes up every year always seems to do unbelievably well. This year it’s Hull.”

The former England player would just love to see a Cup run, which would give the players confidence they could take into their important league games:

Butt added:

“A cup run is a massive boost for the fans, for the players and for the confidence,” he reflected. “If we can get a good run going, anything can happen.

“The FA Cup is a massively important competition for any club. We are no different. We have a massive fan base, who I’m sure would like to see us go on a run.”

“They will want to see us go to Wembley and even dream of us lifting that cup.”

We’d like to see Nicky Butt and Steve Harper sign their new contracts at the club too, and assume there are no real porblems excpet a little haggling going on.

Milwall beat Crewe Alexandra 3-2 last night with an 86th minute winner, so if we can get through tonight’s tie, we will meet Milwall at home a week on Saturday, and a win there would see us through to the 5th round, where we may get an easy draw – like against Sunderland.

But with our recent injuries this week, tonight’s game could be tough, but one way or another, with extra time and penalties, the winner will be decided tonight.

It will be a tragedy if Newcastle go out of the cup tonight.

Howay The Lads!!

Comments welcome.

60 comments so far

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #1

    Hes lost it.

    He cant seriously believe that – whats worse he thinks he is a key member of this fantastic squad!!

  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #2

    I agree:

    When fit

    When happy

    When performing

    Shame we can never get ALL those 3 conditions happening at once

  • Raffo

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #3

    hes on glue!!!

  • magpies1

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #4

    I see N’zog had been at it again, he has today released a come and get me plea to lyon. dont sell him let in rot in the reserves. while I agree to what he has said he shouldnt do it in public

  • Toon_Sydney

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #5

    half our players are have beens

    owen, geremi, smith butt etc

  • Spyro

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #6

    I agree with Butt. I mean, youve got to imagine –

    Nzog (mabeys)
    Bassong (mabeys)

    would get into most premiership teams outside the top 4-5. The problem is getting more than 3 of these players on the bloody pitch at the same time becouse of injuries!!! If our ideal starting 11 where on the pitch every week, wed have a chance in any game, just look what we did to villa. Made them look toothless.

  • Kash

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #7

    Does anybody have any ideas of Italian and Argentinian Internationals who aren’t currently playing for their clubs? It can’t be that difficult to ascertain if looking at who’s been capped by their respective countries!!!

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #8

    “We’d like to see Nicky Butt ”

    Sorry Ed not me – too slow, cant pass and gives away too many freekicks in dangerous areas

  • KingKevinKeegan

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #9

    To be fair guys i agree with Nicky, you would expect this team to beat any outside the top four:





    Subs: Harper, Taylor, Butt, Duff, LuaLua, Viduka, Carroll

    Just a pitty we always get screwed over with injuries.

  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #10

    I thought senility had kicked in for Nicky reading that headline. However, in context he’s not a millions away from the truth if you compare the players you can put out as a first 11. To qualify ‘Not a million miles away’, I mean we’re as good as Everton, Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and not as good as Villa, Arsenal. Middle of the road sort of team. Able to put a run together and hit the dizzy heights of 6th or 7th. However, take a few of those players away and you have real problems. Unfortunately, we have a track record of losing those players for lenghty periods. Hence the mess.

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #11

    Spyro – Butt said the squad not the 1st eleven. with a clean bill of health and no suspensions we can field a decent team (although at least three of them want to go) – but teh squad is painfully thin

  • Shot Bru

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #12

    Gotta get rid of Zog asap, if he is expressing his wish to play in France with Lyon, i wonder what the chances would be of swapping him with Kim Kallstrom would be.

  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #13

    Lads, come on its match day – we need at least one positive spin story!!!

  • Sav

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #14

    ‘As good as any outside the top 4’, my Butt.
    However, its the state of the squad in 2009/10 that is also a big concern of fans.
    Without Owen and Shay Given, we will be hanging by a thread. Clearly, for all has been said to the contrary, about Ashley staying around, the owner does not see that as his problem. If the squad is allowed to run down the clock with contracts fizzling out and loan signings ending, he will not be around to worry about it. Or so he hopes.

  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #15

    Toon Graeme – 1-0 tonight, Bassong with a header, midway through the 2nd half. The march to Wembley will continue. 5th Round here we come. How’s that for positive? And also slightly optimistic and arrogant….

  • batty

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #16

    We’d like to see Nicky Butt and Steve Harper sign their new contracts at the club yes ed we wud from 1 true geordie to an other

  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #17

    Man City headlines – “City make move for Kaka”. Newcastle headlines – “Newcastle in crisis talks”, “Toon turn to Quashie”. Stop, I want to get off……

  • batty

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #18

    Without Owen and Shay Given, we will be hanging by a thread SPOT ON SAV

  • batty

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #19


  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #20

    Bowburn – I’ll take that bet on Bassong!! Nowt wrong with optimism.

    Im full of optimsm then when it comes to NUFC – dont get me started.

    I was told by a member of the catering staff at SJP (service) who also works where I do during the day and she advises that Llabiarse is exactly that and as she is an avid toon supported has heard conversations and he hasnt got a clue.

    I know that Ive slated people for saying such stuff and it could be seen as poop. Its tittle tattle and heard whilst clearing tables and little information can be damaging but that backs uspfor me my opinion on the bloke.

    Not a good one. Sod off bakc to Casinos and get us a ‘Can do’ Chairman who lights the fire of the boards arse end and get things done.

  • Sav

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #21

    Why don’t City just hand the other 19 sides a big brown envelope and we’ll agree to GIVE them the title next year. I know at least one owner who’d take their hand off for it.

  • Paul.

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #22

    we’d be fine without given, harpers just as good, infact, he actually lets in less goals per game than given…..
    n besides, providing we dont tell fat ash about it, the money could be pretty useful right about now..
    herd adrianos available on loan…joe 😀

  • Michael12

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #23

    I agree. We are as good as any side outside the top four. Consider how competitive this season is, there are no easy games not even for any of the big four. Every game is on a game by game basis. The reason why we are not in the top half is because silly fans here simply want attacking football. Now, consider attacking football is not necessarily winning football.

    We played Westham scoring 2 goals which should be enough to beat a team, but Newcastle fans want to embarrass the opposition they cannot stand for a 1-0 victory the team must score 5 or 6 which is a joke. If Kinnear was not under so much pressure to deliver this so called attacking football then he could manage his way.

    There is too much pressure from the fans on our team to attack attack attack! Do you think the opposition have been doing nothing all week? That they do not have a strategy to counter ours? Do you think the opposition come and present us with the ball and extend an invitation to attack them? If so then you are a fantasist.

    We must appreciate the competitive nature of the league this season and recalibrate your expectations.

  • Paul.

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #24

    michael 12
    whats wrong with attacking football? it works, newcastle fans want whats best for the team, which is attacking football, you wins ome you lose some, but only winning 1 out of 3 is just as good as gettin 3 boring draws every weekend.
    oh, and btw, whats your views on ashley now?

  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #25

    Michael12 – I think there is a modicum of truth in there somewhere. However, do other fans really demand that? Are we disappointed with 1-0, 2-1? I very much doubt it. It’s not so much attaching football. It’s ‘good’ football people want to see. The excitement of goals is part of it, surely? Personally, I couldn’t give a stuff if we never win the title provided I enjoy the games for a number of reasons. One of them being the football is good. Another being I seem some goals. Maybe another is that we win more than we lose. Keegan gets chastised for his mentality. Is something really worth the branging rights to grind out a season-long list of 1-0 wins and tactical draws? No thanks. If we happen to win it ‘the right way’ then excellent otherwise I’ll be proud of the team and I’ll enjoy the ride.

  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #26

    My keyboard is clearly knackered judging by my grammar and spelling…..Hopefully it still all made sense..

  • workyticket

    Jan 14, 2009 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #27

    Michael12, it’s more about the fans attacking the football club than attacking football. We CAN play attacking football and win. However, we fans, and our determination to spread a pall of gloom and constant turmoil all around the club infects the players and makes them nervous. It drives players away from the club too. We have a classic case of a collective ‘catastrophic mentality’ and it affects us like a curse. We will do whatever we can to drag the club down then say “I told you so”. It’s like a self fulfilling prophecy.

  • Paul.

    Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #28

    worky ticket, we dont need us fans to drag the club down now

    weve got mike ashley here to do it for us 😀

  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #29

    Why do some fans continue to want to point the finger of blame at other fans? Is this not destructive in itself?

  • Paul.

    Jan 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #30

    bowburnmag – ur right there, but these are the types of fans who contiuously want something to moan about, the sort of hypocirtical fans who say 1 thing (e.g. fans are never happy bla bla) and then go and do it themselves (e.g. moan moan moan)

    see my point?
    and i wouldnt worry about michael12 he spouts more doggydoo than mike ashley

  • Nick D

    Jan 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #31

    It would be a far better squad without Butt, Geremi, Cacapa, Viduka and Smith

  • punk skunk...

    Jan 14, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #32

    Bang on worky ticket!..
    …Self-fullfillin’ prophecy by drama queens!..

    …Anyone interested in supportin’ the Toon?..

    …This boardroom fixation is well past it’s use by date!..

  • Nick D

    Jan 14, 2009 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #33

    Michael 12, Kinnear was 2 -0 up against Stoke at half time and put on an extra defender for 45 mins !!!

    The best form of defence is attack, unless you get a warped sense of enjoyment from watching an Allardyce team.

  • Paul.

    Jan 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #34

    totally agree nick d

  • Michael12

    Jan 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #35

    All I am pointing out is that, fans recently criticised Kinnear, for the string of draws particularly from winning positions. Given the new found robustness established in our defence, Had we shut up shop after going ahead, we might have just won those games.

    We must remember that attacking while pleasing on the eye has its drawbacks, most notably is it leaves us exposed at the back. When attacking, this is the most likely time at which we may concede goal.

    We must allow the manager to play to our strengths which he is by far better poised to identify then we are; he spends the weeks studying tapes of the opposition and devising strategy to better contain them and exploit weaknesses identified and yet we cannot give him the autonomy to devise the strategy. Even if we do not bark tactics at him but the pressure we put with this emphasis of attacking football.

    The rest of us go to school or work and then come Saturday or Sunday demand a brand of football long forgotten.

    Have you not considered given the resources, that perhaps attacking is not one of our strengths. We do not have the ingenuity in midfield something on which I think we can all agree, to fashion the sort of chances that our strikers crave. Michael Owen is not someone who can play outside the 18 yard box, Oba, while capable still lacks direction and cannot read a game. Also, we do not have the players who can hold onto a ball long enough to sustain a prolonged spell of attack. This makes more likely to find ourselves on our back foot given the consequences of attacking football I pointed out earlier i.e. being exposed at the back.

  • punk skunk...

    Jan 14, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #36

    True Michael 12…

  • bowburnmag

    Jan 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #37

    michael12 – I don’t blame JK for the mess we’re in at the moment. Whether he’s in charge or anybody else, they need to have the right players to be able to play a particular brand of football. That’s surely a given? But to chastise the mentality of other for wanting entertaining football makes you sound like a right killjoy. Which I’m sure you’re not. I still maintain you won’t find many NUFC fans grumbling about winning games regardless of the means. However, the majority of football fans not just NUFC fans want to be entertained at the end of the week you described.

  • Paul.

    Jan 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #38

    attacking is the most likely time we will concede a goal?? what planet are you on, the least likely time they will score is from within their own half, with us in possesion, the most likely time, is when we are constantly gettin battered in are own box, playind efensive, long ball tactics.
    long ball defensive tactics dont suit are team
    a) because our defence hasnt bonded yet
    b) because givens organisation of the defence, and kicking upfield is terrible and just ends up giving it to the opposition
    and c) because our attacking players are our best ones, kk chose tactics that suited our players, thats why we were good att he end of last season, attacking, with harper in goal

    if you have a poor unorganised defence, with a keeper who no matter how good at shot stopping he is, and agility, does not organise his defence, is poor with set peices, and who cannot aim a kick, defensive tactics will not work..

    now stop spoutin yit and realise your wrong on this one.

  • Michael12

    Jan 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #39

    @Nick D: We have played 17 games this season and you can only point out 1. The pressure is on the players as well from the fans to attack. It is not just on Kinnear.

    St. James park is an intimidating atmosphere because it is always a full house, but is it not only intimidating to the opposition, but to our own players as well. When we are hostile, shouting at players saying you are not “fit to wear the shirt” (Viduka) when coming off with a thigh injury recently. The fans Praised Viduka a week earlier for his neat flick to set up Duff who scored the winner against spurs and days later was the victim of abuses.

    St. James park can be a great environment but one of gloom. The fans should know their part. We have a huge influence on setting the mood in St. James park in fact we set the mood.

  • punk skunk...

    Jan 14, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #40

    good point about Given/Harper…
    …433 is the way to go!..With Harper in goal!..


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