Kinnear – We Were The Better Team By Miles

Joe Kinnear thought that Newcastle United was the better team by miles last night even though we were beaten 1-0 by Hull City.


Joe Kinnear – we were the better team by miles

The Newcastle manager was left to rue a number of missed chances as Daniel Cousin’s 80th-minute goal proved to be the only one of the game.

And we can be the better team (by miles) in every game but what counts is the result and we were beaten last night and are therefore our of the FA Cup, and a potentially an easy 4th round draw, although nothing seems easy for us at the moment.

But Kinnear insisted:

“We were the better team by miles. By miles. And the bad thing about it is we got beat.”“They had a smash and grab, they had one shot all night and scored, we missed at least five clear-cut chances.”

“We hit the post, hit the crossbar, Michael (Owen)’s had a few, Xisco’s missed one.”

“The good thing is we created the chances but it wasn’t going to be our night, was it?”

” Michael, being the finisher he is, on any other day he would have put at least one of those away out of the opportunities.”

And Joe seemed to be in a little bit of denial as he continued and said he didn’t think it would harm the team’s morale:

“(Not) if we play like that,” “It’s disappointing, but we’ve got 11 players missing – 11 key players – and I think everybody out there gave everything they had.”

“It was never going to be easy. And it’s not going to be easy; we’ve got the same problem going to Blackburn, who’s to say what kind of side we can put out.”

“But that’s the position we’re in at the moment.” “We can’t run away from it – we’ve got to face up to it.”

And of course this kind of result will not help us keep Michael Owen or Shay Given at the club, although Michael had an off night last night.

We’ve got just one point out of the last 9 in the league, and now been knocked out of the FA Cup at our first hurdle, so this is not exactly a high point of the season for the team or the supporters.

Let’s hope we can get some good players in, and start moving this club forward, and we must beat Blackburn on Saturday, to get some pride and some league points, as our first step back.

Comments welcome.

44 comments so far

  • RyanToon

    Jan 15, 2009 at 1:46 AM

    Comment #1

    didnt go to the game but what i saw on the highlights we battered them

  • Dan_Scott157

    Jan 15, 2009 at 1:50 AM

    Comment #2

    Ed, I don’t think anything is going to keep Owen at the club beyond the summer, certainly not beating Hull would make him or Given change their mind that we are an utter basket case. Prudent signings are needed and then a new owner in the summer. If Ashley is the man leading us into the 2009-2010 campaign expect another wafer thin squad that has just undergone a cost cutting and Joe Kinnear still in charge, that’s if the FA don’t just ban him altogether to save them the hassle of sending him letters and calling him before committee’s every few weeks.

  • Dan_Scott157

    Jan 15, 2009 at 1:53 AM

    Comment #3


    I went there tonight. In terms of chances we battered them but in between those it was just 2 poor football sides with Hull arguably being the worse.

  • Dan_Scott157

    Jan 15, 2009 at 1:55 AM

    Comment #4

    Had Owen and Xisco put their chances away it could of been about 4-1 to us but when Owen fails to score we are in trouble as their is no such thing as a goal scoring midfielder at our club.

  • RyanToon

    Jan 15, 2009 at 1:57 AM

    Comment #5

    yes dan i meant chances mate sorry

  • Fostino

    Jan 15, 2009 at 2:15 AM

    Comment #6

    re: dan

    no but we could have up to 3 later today, if we are led to believe joe….i.e. Mr. Forget what i said yesterday

  • Toon_Fresh

    Jan 15, 2009 at 2:25 AM

    Comment #7

    Better teams score goals :/

  • craig s chisholm

    Jan 15, 2009 at 2:25 AM

    Comment #8

    no point in jfk making constant excuses. the team he put out tonight would have been close to his starting 11 even if he had every player fit, beye and barton would have gone in with martins for xsisco but the other 8 players?? i agree, nothing is going to keep owen at newcastle, if the truth was out, i think the deal is already done and he knows where he is going. to be honest though, i think i dont care who goes and who stays anymore, they are all under acheiving and not one fo them is worth a wank.

  • matty

    Jan 15, 2009 at 2:50 AM

    Comment #9

    Nice one JFK!

    Would rather be the worst team by a country mile, but still in the FA Cup. It’s NEVER gonna be our night, is it? This Club is a comedy act from top to bottom. Better team, missed chances, I have funds, I don’t have funds, he’s staying, he’s going, he’s injured, he’s not injured, six pointer, too good to be relegated, best fans in the world, deserve better, massive club, Keegan’s coming back, Shearer’s coming in. I can’t f’in stand it anymore!

  • ginkoh

    Jan 15, 2009 at 3:02 AM

    Comment #10

    Anyone in Newcastle can use 100 reasons to explain but 1 thing you can’t deny is they’re all SUXX !!!

    We lose 2 times in St’ jame’s park with team who promote to PRM this year !!!! that’s fact Ashley !! and it’s not acceptable !!!

  • Dan_008

    Jan 15, 2009 at 3:05 AM

    Comment #11

    Obvious to me that they were not the better team.. regardless of how many chances

  • Sav

    Jan 15, 2009 at 3:11 AM

    Comment #12

    Its about results, but had we won, would Ashley be more or less likely to dig into his cash reserve to fund reinforcements? I think less. I hope he is becoming scared of the prospect of relegation and realise he has only a fortnight in which he can influence that.
    Tbh, I reckon a flukey win may have weakened Joe’s argument. That’s the only positive I can see. But rennes turned down 7 million, reportedly, in summer. Credit crunch or not, I cannot see them accepting much less now.
    Will Ashley offer 8 million plus??

  • JonnyNufc

    Jan 15, 2009 at 3:18 AM

    Comment #13

    Ashley wont offer enough & we’ll get no one.

    Then they’ll use the excuse that the asking club wanted to much or they were out bid.

    Blah blah blah

    Reality is Ashleys a greedy fat bassad.

    I think all us Newcastle fans are getting tired of being “unlucky” anyway.

  • Zangwill_Ho

    Jan 15, 2009 at 3:26 AM

    Comment #14

    Sorry, who is Miles?

  • Widowmaker

    Jan 15, 2009 at 3:41 AM

    Comment #15

    JK is better than Wenger!

  • RememberShearer

    Jan 15, 2009 at 6:05 AM

    Comment #16

    OK well if we were the better team we would have won!!



  • arctoa

    Jan 15, 2009 at 6:26 AM

    Comment #17

    I don’t care if we were the better team or not, the point is that we lost without registering a goal. West Brom play some of the best football in the league and look where they are.

  • aus_toon_todd

    Jan 15, 2009 at 6:35 AM

    Comment #18

    not good enough, inept performance, dominant or not, it’s a results job JK. simply not good enough.

    now who could blame zoggy, owen and given. hull B have made our seniors look foolish.

    aghhhm joke nufc.

  • aus_toon_todd

    Jan 15, 2009 at 6:37 AM

    Comment #19

    top 7 finish and you’re forgiven JK. but you have to take alot of responsibility for this, hopefully you haven’t come out and said the usual ‘we have so many players out, we’re trying to bring players in, we dominated the game… i dont wanna hear.

    i dont perform at work, i come out honestly and explain why. not pussyfoot around.

    cannot believe sheppard could run this better than the current mob, says alot.

  • Brutooon

    Jan 15, 2009 at 6:40 AM

    Comment #20

    we can be 1 million times better than the opposition but end of the day its the RESULT that matter.

    Even we got 5% possession but if we win its better than getting 95% and lose

  • Toon_Sydney

    Jan 15, 2009 at 6:55 AM

    Comment #21

    tribal football has now reported newcastle signing the 18 yo brazilian. will JFK hasnt mentioned signing any strikers


    Jan 15, 2009 at 7:27 AM

    Comment #22

    Why when we were playing Hull Reserves didnt we play ours ie Kadar, Lua Lua, Doninger and Ranger? At least we would of had a decent excuse for losing. To say that we lost because we had 11 key players missing is a joke. Apart from Beye,Enrique,Barton and Martins we had our so called strongest team out and yet failed to beat Rod Hull and his Emu team. We had 7 internationals and three u21 internationals playing and Guthrie who many say should be in the u21 squad so why make poor excuses? We are doomed!!! Another season goes by with no trophys in sight and yet another million miles away from the top 4!As John Lennon once said MA how can you sleep at night you cu**!

  • Chris G

    Jan 15, 2009 at 7:29 AM

    Comment #23

    Widowmaker // Jan 15, 2009 at 3:41 AM

    JK is better than Wenger!

    Better at what, exactly?

    Swearing, perhaps, but apart from that there isn’t anything else that I can think of.

  • Newckie

    Jan 15, 2009 at 7:35 AM

    Comment #24

    No disrespect to you Toon_Sydney but tribal football is utter crap!

    When you miss all your chances then you lose, end of story. NOT good enough! These guys are paid obscene amounts of money. Performance based salaries and competition for places is what we need. It really annoys me that these clowns pick up the same huge amounts of money week in week out even when they FAIL to achieve.

    I wish I had a job where it didn’t matter how I perform..enough is enough, get out there and earn you the right to wear the shirt. Disgraceful!!!!

    As has been said it is all about results.

    In a way I feel for Joe, his up line pile of dog shite should be lined up and shot so we can get in some players without stuffing around!!!

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR (insert a bucket load of expletives)
    Makes me ashamed to be a Geordie !!!!!

    Get some players in now or bliddy sod off!!!

  • WesToon

    Jan 15, 2009 at 7:38 AM

    Comment #25

    Here are our remaining fixtures Lads 🙁
    Doesnt make for good reaing im afraid….

    I can only see us getting 20 points and even thats pushing it,if we get relegated,im going to loose it… I will make it my personal ambition in life,to get Mike Ashley back,for what he has done & is doing to my beloved Newcastle

    Pls mike stop this….Its cutting & cutting deep

  • WesToon

    Jan 15, 2009 at 7:39 AM

    Comment #26

    * reading

  • Norn Iron Magpie

    Jan 15, 2009 at 8:04 AM

    Comment #27

    We are in bad shape lads. I dont think JK has the tactics or the managment skills to turn us around. Get Roeder back on board He’s an honest man. Cant believe JK one bit. The next two weeks are very important for our beloved club.

  • Will I am

    Jan 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM

    Comment #28

    we need steve bruce as our manager jK is sh*t.

  • Nick D

    Jan 15, 2009 at 8:24 AM

    Comment #29

    ” we were the better team by miles”

    Joke kinnear is an unwittingly and unaware comedian. We were playing at home against Hull reserves and still lost !!

    I think we would actually be lucky to get any takers for Owen if they saw that performance !!
    It did back up Mourinho’s statement.

    I don’t know if Kinnear’s passion can mask his stupidity or if Ashley’s lip service can hide his own greed. Oh happy days. Some day this has to stop – right !!

  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 15, 2009 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #30


    I admire the fans who are trying to put a positve spin on last nights result, by saying we can focus on PL survival.

    But at the start of the season how many we’re rubbing their hands with joy at the prospect of supporting the boys through another season long survival battle! NOT ME.

    I’d hoped we would challenge for a Euro spot and perhaps a good cup run.

    But due to:

    A lack of spending in the summer
    Backroom disagreements
    No support of managment
    Slow progress on current contracts
    Lack of sale over club
    Indecision over JFK initial appointment
    JFK’s constant outbursts
    Poor moral / performances from players
    Zog/Given/Owen..rocking the boat
    No progress in midseason trasfer window

    we have nothing but disappointment to look forwards to.

    What i mean by ‘disappointment’ is this:

    If we get relegated we will all be disappointed. If we survive who here will be clapping their hands thinking what a great season ?
    OK i’ll give you relief, but is relief what you wanted from this season.

  • lesh

    Jan 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #31

    Eat your heart out Citeh!!

    This is sensational – Part of a tabloid article about Kaka and the Citeh speculation which appears to have been a smokescreen!!

    ‘If he joins the Toon, the Brazilian star wants written guarantees in his contract that Mike Ashley remains the club’s owner and continues to invest heavily, that they qualify for the Champions League within two years, that N’Zogbia stays at the club and also that he retains control of his image rights. If any of those clauses are broken, Kaka would be allowed to leave for a predetermined transfer fee.’ (The Bun)

  • Nick D

    Jan 15, 2009 at 8:35 AM

    Comment #32

    Geordie 69

    Exactly, why not? it was a perfect chance to play the youngsters and possibly start something exciitng. But oh no, not Joe, he’s a dark age dinosaur.

    N’Zogbia was going to be so motivated in his least favourite position. Whys ay he was going to give kadar a chance. You can’t believe a word Kinnear says from one day to the next. To the people who say he tells it like it is. Err – no, he really doesn’t. Lua and Ranger should have had at least 30 mins.

    Houllier , Ranieri, Jol, Van Gall, Advocaat any proper manger, not this sunday pub team joke that is Kinnear.

    Norn iron magpie, that’s a joke right?

  • Will I am

    Jan 15, 2009 at 8:36 AM

    Comment #33

    @The Real Entertainers

    I’m with you.

  • WesToon

    Jan 15, 2009 at 8:37 AM

    Comment #34

    @ Nick D

    Mate i couldnt agree more,as for the merry go round stopping….. Well i dont know BUT something has to give soon,hopefully its for the better & not worse(i.e) getting relegated!!!(God help Mike Ashley & Co if that happens!!)

    Its official,NUFC is cursed,i mean which other club ever has this kind of Sh!te….every season is the same,most of our team is injured,unrest among players & fans,a FEKKING PATHETIC BOARD

    PLS we need some help God,why are you punishing us???

  • Widowmaker

    Jan 15, 2009 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #35

    Cheer up lads. We are building for the future.

    From BBC rumour mill :

    Newcastle United have signed the new Gazza – former Magpies and England star Paul Gascoigne’s seven-year-old nephew Cameron Gascoigne, who has been snapped up after scoring 22 goals in a 30-minute junior match. (Daily Star)

    This kid will score 50 goals a season for us when he is 17. Let’s be patient, it is only 10 years. 🙂

  • Stuart79

    Jan 15, 2009 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #36

    We should have been the better team we were up against Hull’s reserves!

    I’m not holding my breath re these signings an’ll!

  • Jackie

    Jan 15, 2009 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #37

    Seen worse, all you can do is sit tight and see how January unfolds.

  • lesh

    Jan 15, 2009 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #38

    re Widowmaker and the new Gazza……. brilliant, that’s the first of Joe’s signings!

    22 goals in a game eh? Pity the rules wouldn’t allow us to play thim now!!!

  • dougnufc

    Jan 15, 2009 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #39

    Pretty cool 22 goals in a game but its 5 vs 5 though but still pretty impressive at such a young age.

    I only managed to score 16 in 5 games (7 a side pitch)

  • Partizan

    Jan 15, 2009 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #40

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