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Newcastle Sign Top Slovenian 16 Year-Old Youngster

1:05 am, Saturday, January 17th, 2009 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 71 Comments

Sky Sports is reporting that Newcastle United have again won the race to sign another  highly-rated youngster, this time it’s Slovenian 16 year-old youngster Haris Vuckic from NK Domzale.

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Harris Vuckic
- 16 year old attacking midfielder


Sky Sports is reporting that the gifted 16 year old teenager is regarded as one of Europe’s brightest talents, and reports suggest he underwent a recent trial at AC Milan. We’re not sure how much Newcastle paid for him but we understand it’s around £400K, for the young Solovenian.

But Newcastle have definitely secured his signature, with the attacking midfielder Vuckic signing a three-and-a-half-year deal at St James’ Park. The youngster currently stands at 6’2″ tall and is probably still growing.

So another top youngster will be arriving at the club in January, along with 18 year-old Brazilian forward Cai Ferreirra, so we continue to bring future top players (hopefully) into the Tyneside club – sounds good to us.

The capture demonstrates Newcastle’s growing policy of scouring the world in the search of top up and coming talent to bring to Tyneside, and then develop the youngsters through the Newcastle Youth Academy, under the watchful eye of Director, Richard Money.

Just rounding off the current transfer situation with half of the 33 day transfer window over today:

  • It looks like Reenes have turned down our offer of £5M for midfielder Stephane Mbia – so we’re not sure what happens now
  • There will be a trial game next Tuesday involving Peter Lovenkrands and our two proposed loan signings – one Italian and one Argentine – so presumably we may hear we have three players into the club after that trial game,  if all goes well
  • At least two top youngsters will come into the club in January, and hopefully even more – we got five top youngsters in last January.
  • Joe has said there will be new investment in players in the summer, and we assume at some point he will accept the formal offer made by Ashley – but it may not be until the summer.
    We just cannot see Joe turning away from what he has said many times before is the dream job for him
  • There was news today that we had had an offer of £1.3M accepted by Espanyol for former Liverpool full-back Steve Finnan,  after the Hull City deal fell through. But we have heard nothing more about that – so we’re not sure if it is a true story or not – but we hope it is, because we can use Steve for the rest of the season, and maybe another season to allow some of our youngsters to come through at the club.

But we must keep pushing ahead in the transfer market as we’d like to see at least 5 top players into the club by February 2nd, when the window closes – which is two weeks on Monday.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Newcastle Youth · Transfer News and Rumours



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71 responses so far ↓

  • 1 dcbashore // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:11 AM

    The youth model seems to be working well. What they seem to be forgetting is that the Arsenal model also calls for the board applying funds as necessary to buy established players in order to keep the team competitive at the highest level (see Cygan, Gallas, Rosicky, etc.). That’s where we’re missing the boat, for the most part (Coloccini is the general exception and we’re seeing him prove more and more to be the weaker of our first-choice defensive pairing with every passing match).

    Cheers on the other updates, Ed, I was wondering about Lovenkrands since he wasn’t listed as available for tomorrow’s game.

  • 2 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:14 AM

    Never seen him, only heard about him a week or so ago when Milan was talked out. He is 6ft 2 apparently, AM or a ST.

    Can only be good for the club really cant it.

  • 3 Ed Harrison // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:15 AM

    He’s in trial game with the other two potential loan signings next Tuesday – and then Joe will decide on each of the three.

  • 4 Archie Mag // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:15 AM

    We can say what we want about Wise (and I do as much as anyone) but he does seem to be doing well when it comes to building a team for the future, I like what Ashley is doing there, if Keegan never got shot of the youth system first time round we would have been in a much better position today, Carrick would likely still be here for starters…

    However its the present that is most worrying, these top young stars aren’t going to want to stay if were playing in the pepsi league.

  • 5 Ed Harrison // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:15 AM

    That’s Peter Lovenkrands.

  • 6 Warwick Hunt // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:15 AM

    Colo cost us £10M and Bassong cost us next to nowt and iknow who I’ve been most impressed with. Just goes to show!

  • 7 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:19 AM

    M’Bia was obviously a waste of time. Rennes will have been told by clubs like Everton that they will put bigger bids in for him during the summer. This news about youngsters is only good if it’s combine with players that are the finished article coming into the club or else what sort of future will we be preparing for. Jimmy Bullard is available for the right price and Jermain Pennant for about £2 million. We could do far worse that getting these 2 in that have a lot of premiership experience.

  • 8 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:20 AM

    *combined

  • 9 Warwick Hunt // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:21 AM

    @ Archie.
    Thats what people seem to forget about Keegan, he nearly destroyed NUFC by getting rid of the reserve team. I like what I see about the youth policy but like you I believe we need new recruits at Senior level or else try some of the youngsters out at that level. The problem lies that when you bring in Kids to a side that is losing they are not geared for it, you’ve got to bring them into a system and team that works and wins

  • 10 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:22 AM

    If Kinear wans an African DM we could do far worse than geting Mohammed Ali Nafkha for under a million, probably about 500k.

  • 11 Ed Harrison // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:22 AM

    Tom_Toon – yes you’re right – just verified he’s a little over 6’2″ – 1.89 meters.

  • 12 Brutooon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:23 AM

    I dont know about this guy but this sound promising for us.

    Next, hopefully this youngsters will get chances in the first team. Hope we can use arsenal and how they handle the youngsters….(look at fabregas, he is nobody before he play for arsenal)

  • 13 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:23 AM

    Tom_Toon

    Who is he?

  • 14 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:25 AM

    Steve Finnan £1.3 million
    Jermain Pennant £2.5 million
    Jimmy Bullard £6 million

  • 15 Warwick Hunt // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:25 AM

    @Ed Harrison.
    Is ton_Toon the lone rangers Geordie sidekick? As I remember it Ton_to was his sidekick?

  • 16 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:25 AM

    A Tunisian international, defensive midfielder, players for Etoile Du Sael, bit of a key player for them, they won alost every cup going last year, African champions league, league, league cup. Enter the FIFA world club championships too.

  • 17 Girth // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:26 AM

    warick hunt
    just goes to show what?
    vidic and firdinand? how much? £50 mil!!
    we got them two for £11 mil ish, and your complaining? you really need to have a look at our recent defenders and realise what a nob you sound like!
    they are quite simply the best defenders we have had in a long time, no matter of the price!

  • 18 Norn Iron Magpie // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:27 AM

    Need a mixture of both. Youth and experience

  • 19 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:28 AM

    Tom_Toon

    How old is he?

  • 20 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:30 AM

    22

  • 21 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:31 AM

    2 other vey good players we could sign from Tunisia. Mouhibi, 23, attacking midfielder and Wissem Ben Yahia, 24, goalscoring box-to-box midfielder.

    All dirt cheap, all quality.

  • 22 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:33 AM

    Tom_Toon

    Do you think our club knows about these players?

  • 23 Little Willie // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:34 AM

    Finnan had a medical today at the Nuffield hospital in Newcastle, not sure if it was for us or Sunderland as both clubs are after him.

  • 24 Archie Mag // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:34 AM

    Just goin back to the manager issue for a sec…

    I’ve been shot down by mates for saying this but I still would have liked us to go after Steve Bruce in the summer… Aye, there are better managers out there, but ones that wouldn’t dream of coming here, Bruce is the kind of calibre we were looking at before the JK offer.

    I think he’d jump at the chance to manage us and has shown what he can do with limited resources, knows the prem and knows what NUFC means to geordies. I’d obviously prefer a big name who could attract world class talent but those days are gone lads.

  • 25 Archie Mag // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:35 AM

    Tom Toon,

    Send wisey an email lol, you might get a job mate.

  • 26 reillers // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:35 AM

    And that’s going to help us NOW..??
    We can’t afford to be wasting money on kids. Great in the long term. But time and money is a luxury that we don’t have on our side.

  • 27 RyanToon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:36 AM

    is this the 400,000 loan signing, joe said about?

  • 28 Warwick Hunt // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:36 AM

    @No Girth.
    Exactly my point, sometimes stupid transfer fee’s count for nowt. Now before you call me a knob in future learn how to spell it first. Imagine you have a tattoo along the length of it and try to remember, and don’t come on here calling me a kb next EH!!!!!

  • 29 Waldo P. Barnstormer // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:37 AM

    Yeah really like the sound of the kids where bringing in BUT can we please have a manager that’s willing to give the youth’s a chance. Kinnear another two years thats comical

  • 30 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:41 AM

    Dan, doubt it.

    But the Tunisian, South Africa and Egyptian league are the hot beds of Africa, especially the Tunisian league.

    Etoile Du Sahel in particular have produced a lot of talent, Chikhaoui, Chermiti, Austin Ejide and in particular Kader Keita who cost Lyon £15mil last summer.

  • 31 Warwick Hunt // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:45 AM

    @Tom_Toon.
    What ever happened to Chikaoui and Chermiti then. I remember you talking about them 2 a few years ago? How much did they go for?

  • 32 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:45 AM

    Kinnear is very similar to Keegan in that he doesn’t really fit into a system that is focussed on bringing young players through as every team sheet he makes is based on seniority. If it’s a choice between Duff and N’Zogbia he chooses Duff. When it was a choice between Carrol and Ameobi he chose Ameobi. We had a brilliant young lad called Nile Ranger on the bench the other night but never got a look in simply because Xisco was older, never mind that he hadn’t kicked a ball since August, not even in the reserves. We need a young manager in this time, something we have never had since Keegan’s first spell.

  • 33 RyanToon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:45 AM

    tomtoon

    the reason english clubs dont go for players from these african countries, is because of trouble getting a work permit,

    oh and bit out the blue, but ill tell you all now, hugo rodallega will be a huge hit at wigan and by next season all of the big clubs will be after him, quality player

  • 34 Dan_Scott157 // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:49 AM

    RyanToon

    Wigan have a habit of unearthing good players.

    Figueroa
    Palacios
    Valencia
    Zaki

  • 35 RyanToon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:49 AM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emad_Motaeb

    like to see us go for this guy, could have same impact as amr zaki, i think hes too good for the championship

  • 36 RyanToon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:50 AM

    wigan have got alot of good talent, i like wigan apart from cattermole!

  • 37 Norn Iron Magpie // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:51 AM

    Tom_Toon /
    Never heard of these players. Any good.Went on holiday to Port El Kontoia a few years ago. All the young fellas wanted to buy my toon top of me.

  • 38 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:54 AM

    Norn – Been there too, bought a Ronaldinho PSG top, fake of course and scorpian in a frame, haah and a watch, but it broke after 5 days.

    Ryan – They will get work permits, they are internationals.

    You dont want Moteab either, really poor player.

    Shikabala, Zaki, Mido are all far better forwards.

  • 39 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:56 AM

    Dan – Id barely say Wigan unearther any of those except Figueroa, Palacios was going on trials to so many clubs around europe and Wenger recommened him to bRuce after his trial at Arsenal.

    Valencia was loned to Wigan for 2 seasons before they bought him and Zaki was pretty well known.

  • 40 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:58 AM

    Warwick – Chermiti moved to Hertha Berlin in the summer but got ligament damage soon after, came backa few weeks ago and score din a friendly a few days ago.

    Chikhaoui, could have ended in tears, thankfully i didn’t, he got an injury, but it almost turned out to be career ending, been out since April, he’ll be back in full in about 2 months. Glad it didn’t end his career as he has the potential to be one of the best players ever to come out of Africa, definitely one of the most techincally gifted.

  • 41 Norn Iron Magpie // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:58 AM

    Tom_Toon
    Bought a nice Bob Marley pic still on my kitchen wall. Not sure about Richard shoe bomber but Zaki would be a good buy. Maybe acting on impulse.

  • 42 RyanToon // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:59 AM

    motaeb would be like zaki, i know it. shikabala ive heard you mention him before, mido isnt nowhere near motaeb IMO.

    permits? what theve all played about alot of games at international level? i watched alot of international football and ive never seen them play?

  • 43 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:00 AM

    Ben Yahia has played a lot, Nafkha is getting there, he is a regular now. Mouhibi is just starting.

    Moteab is really poor when I’ve seen him.

  • 44 RyanToon // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:01 AM

    whose this chikhaoui play for? fc basel dont he?

  • 45 RyanToon // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:02 AM

    or bordeaux? or is that chamakh im thinking off???

  • 46 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:05 AM

    Zurich, Chamakh plays for Bordeaux.

    If Chikhaoui wasn’t injured in the summer window I think he would have gone to either Marseille, Benfica, Hamburg, Bayern or Juventus.

  • 47 RyanToon // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:09 AM

    oh ok, this ariza makakula was he any good at benfica?

  • 48 Norn Iron Magpie // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:09 AM

    Tom_Toon
    Dont think he would come to us then?

  • 49 Tom_Toon // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:13 AM

    Chikhaoui? Probably not now.

    Ryan – He’s a good player, pretty poor at Benfica though.

  • 50 Norn Iron Magpie // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:16 AM

    We will have a good team in 3 to 4 years. Very worried about right now.

  • 51 RyanToon // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:17 AM

    ok im off to bed now, 1-0 to the toon tommorow!

  • 52 Norn Iron Magpie // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:18 AM

    night mate
    howay the lads

  • 53 Matthew Tom // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:24 AM

    Dennis, if the lad is any good I will personally kiss your arse. Forget how wrinkly it will be when this lad eventually gets to play, I don’t care any more. I will kiss wrinkly, cock-eyed nasty arse, just bring us a trophy winning team.

  • 54 mrtoad // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:45 AM

    Got to say Tom_Toon that its all well and good finding out about such players… (ala the movie goal but in a diff place!) but look at Aston Villa… They are where they are due to solid spending and holding on to their top players. Seems a good strategy to buy people like L Young and the N Shorey’s of this world who are decent prem players, and not total gambles considering the position we are in. Don’t get me wrong tho, if there only costing a few hundred k each then no harm done, but i just wish we could buy some solid prem players! or at worst some decent championship players such as that Sheff Utd defender. But hey, if life as a nufc fan were that simple…. we would not have this blog!!

  • 55 Toon_Sydney // Jan 17, 2009 at 3:25 AM

    matthew tom – ur scarin me , id kiss his ass if we won champions league, not the intertoto cup or carling cup

  • 56 Brutooon // Jan 17, 2009 at 3:52 AM

    a good team in 3-4 years time

    but we will be in relegation battle this season

  • 57 Toon_Ksk (ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!) // Jan 17, 2009 at 4:19 AM

    I think news regarding the identity of the two loanees will be leaked out on Sunday or Monday in preparation for the trial game on Tuesday. They will probably arrived ahead of time to get settled in. When they do, there will be news on them. Looking forward to that. My only worries are they are not really that good and its just JK blowing his trumpet to keep expectations high.

  • 58 toonarmyuk // Jan 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM

    Sounds really good that we are still getting young uns in. 2 points though:
    1. Nothing official from nufc.co.uk on either of these young lads yet!
    2. Has Kinnear already said that he prefers not to use the youngsters if possible (prefers experienced players). As is the case with Ranger, Kadar, Lua Lua (although he has played a few minutes), etc

  • 59 Nick D // Jan 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM

    Dan Scott absolutely spot on.

    Reillers how narrow minded can you be, saying youngsters are a waste of money. It’s 400K, not 6M for a Smith, Duff, Barton etc.

    It’s a terrific investment and you need to look at the bigger picture.

    But as Dan Scott says, we don’t have the right manager to bring youth through. Kinnear is old school and anti youth.

    I don’t necessarily think we need to be spending fortunes. Here and there, put the kids in for 20-30 mins. We’ve still got a lot of old heads like Beye, colo, spidey etc to help them settle in.

  • 60 neeraj // Jan 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM

    this is a sign that MA is staying…..

  • 61 macn0ble (Finland) // Jan 17, 2009 at 9:29 AM

    My opinion on the loanees is that if we see Saviola (The Argentinian) arriving, like some of the press has been touting. You can be absolutely sure, that Owen will not carry on in NUFC and the board and Michael know it already.

    any guesses on the Italian??

    If we are in for a left back there are limited amount of Italian full backs available. Only player that comes to mind is, yes, Liverpool’s Dossena.

    What do you guys think?

  • 62 macn0ble (Finland) // Jan 17, 2009 at 9:31 AM

    BTW cheers for the brilliant blog Ed, it keeps getting better.

  • 63 Matt // Jan 17, 2009 at 9:45 AM

    Just to let you know, this guy is touted as a massive future star. I know it’s kinda crass to use this as an example but even football manager is bigging him up in their database.

    If we keep getting youth like this in 2-3 years we’re going to have a stunning squad of Arsenal calibur youngsters.

  • 64 murvar // Jan 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM

    JFK is a complete idiot and out of his depth BUT I don’t think he can be blamed for not deploying the kids or accused of not being interested in them; now is not the time – it can ruin them to play in a struggling team where the experienced and more talented guys are failing. This is what Ardiles did – he played kids and we were in dire strits, although it was fun to watch even tho we got beat all the time! And not too many of them came through – Elliot Watson and Clark the best of them.

    We are tending to assume that all these kids are going to be world-beaters but we know that if one or two get to international level we will have done weel; most will all by the wayside – that’s the way it is. As they grow and get thrust into harder situations you find out more about them, and just who has the talent, temperament, fitness and luck to thrive

  • 65 craig s chisholm // Jan 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    its great we are scouring the globe for raw talent but its a flawed system for us at this time. its obvious that ashley wants to have a great team in about 5 years time as he is buying for the future. he wants the team to be worth hundreds of millions on talent alone nad he is banking on the likes of this new 400k kid becoming worth 30 million etc in 5 years time. its a great idea and i will give him that – a first ever. thats where his good plan stops though. he has stopped all investment in the current first team and its a shambles, with everyone wanting to leave and with us going down this season to the fizzy league. all of the talent he has spent ages scouring the globe for will leave also once we are down in some obscure toss league outside the prem. if these guys are as good as we are led to beleive then they will have many suitors in the prem and other top leagues who will just come in and take them off us. in which case its all bloody pointless. then again, another angle would be if ashley thinks he will recoup his outlay by bringing on these young guns and is hoping that they will replay a vast amount of his 240 million outlay to buy us in the first place, ashley has already recouped alot of this money through zero investment in two years. So, if he gets his money largely back by flogging everyone inc the young stars in a few years, he wont really give a wank what league we are in cos he will have had his money out of us. thats the shame, ashley is a business man , nothing more, he is not a football man.
    we need investment now in the first team otherwise everything will cruble, right through to the acadamey hotshots doing a runner. its liek anything else, if the foundations are not right, the whole thing will come tumbling down. i think we are on a knife edge now, will he invest in the first team or not? we need a big cash injection. ok, sometimes you get bargain players that are great and sometimes the high paid ones are crap. as a general rule though, you get what you pay for, in everything in life, that includes footy players. for me, i think we need a mix up of top draw, bargin buys and raw talent, we must have more top draw that shit though, this is whre we are fallign down now. all we are aiming for is the bottom draw – for everyone, we will go down with this phylosophy.

  • 66 alextoon // Jan 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM

    Thing is though, as soon as any of these youngsters show any sign of talent in the first team they will sold for a big profit.

  • 67 Jan Stavik // Jan 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM

    Is Wise preparing for Championship?

    Stop wasting time finding youngsters now, we need players for the 1st team!

  • 68 heavyhittas // Jan 17, 2009 at 1:12 PM

    Why buy young kids because they wont get a chance to play for the first team and so wont develop? How do Man Utd and Liverpool introduce the kids to the first team? You have to ask the question, if you were a young talent would you honsestly risk coming to Newcastle, I think not?

  • 69 black magpie // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:17 PM

    links people

  • 70 DJG // Jan 17, 2009 at 2:35 PM

    He looks older than 16. Better to buy them now than when they cost £10M. But we will have to be patient. Seem to be a lot of forwards. What about signing some midfielders Dennis? lol.

  • 71 waddler // Feb 13, 2009 at 8:48 AM

    Its ironic isn’t it.
    A bunch of Cockney’s showing us how to develop a top team by going out and buying the best youngsters available.
    The conveyor belt is revolving and in 5 years we will be watching something special, something grown and not bought.
    Ashley I take my hat off to you and Wise, keep up the good work and for gods sake don’t be deflected from your project by fools who cannot see the logic in your move to corner this market.




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