Joe Kinnear Determined To Strengthen Newcastle Squad

Joe Kinnear is obviously very frustrated at his efforts to improve Newcastle’s squad in the January transfer window, as it is proving very difficult to bring in good new players.


Joe Kinnear – very frustrated with slow or no progress in transfer market

Joe has pointed out in the Sunday Mirror today that the squad he has been given is not his, and it’s something he inherited after the shambles we went though in the transfer market last summer, when we just didn’t bring in enough players – and now we, or Joe should we say, is now paying for that.

Joe said:

“”I’ve inherited this,” “They are not my players, everybody has forgotten that.”   “But our biggest problem is a lack of strength in depth. Why wasn’t it addressed by the last manager Keegan or the manager before him Allardyce?”

“I am carrying the can for it. It is as simple as that.” “People think things will turn out okay whatever happens, but I don’t believe they will. We must do something about it.”  “The squad has to be strengthened, there are no ifs and buts about it. I have expressed it to (owner) Mike Ashley and he is very open about it.”

“People have said that previous managers maybe didn’t get what they want. I don’t believe that will happen to me. I haven’t got any reason to think he won’t go my way.”   “I have probably spent more time spelling it out to him than any other manager.”

“I see him regularly and talk to him regularly. I have spelled out the gravity of the situation.”   “I say, ‘we’re not prepared for anything like the disaster we face and you’ve got to realise the importance of that’.”

“I want to be judged on what I bring in, the depth of the first-team squad is not right at the moment.”   “What I inherited was potentially a relegation squad. With the injuries, once they came, we were in deep trouble.”

“We must look to stay up this season and have a big clear-out in the summer and address everything completely differently.”  “We need to get the squad back in shape and make sure we have appropriate cover in every position. We need to take a leaf out of the book of the other top clubs.”

“They don’t seem to have a problem like we do.”

Of course the Sunday Mirror is trying to say that Joe is criticizing Kevin Keegan but he isn’t,  he’s only telling things like they are – that our squad wasn’t big enough to last in the Premier League this season – we all knew that in early September, including Kevin Keegan. Kevin tried mightily to right the situation last summer but the Board let him down, and let him down badly.

Kinnear also blasted Manchester City, who bid only £3M for Newcastle’s brilliant goalkeeper Shay Given, while almost at the same time making their world-record £110m offer for Kaka.

Joe added:

“We got offered £3M” for Shay Given so I went back to Manchester City and said I’ll have Stephen Ireland and Michael Johnson for £1M.”

“If they’re taking the p*** then I might as well.”

Kinnear also admitted he is struggling to agree a deal with French club Rennes for their midfielder Stephane Mbia.

Joe added:

“We’ve made a bid of £5M and according to his agent the player wants to come.“But his club want £10m.”

Why couldn’t we do a deal for £7M, he’ll go for at least that in the summer, with other clubs after him at that time, so let’s get him wrapped up in January, while we still can.

Let’s hope we get some breakthroughs in the transfer market this week – we must get some new good players in, otherwise our Goose may be cooked.


Comments welcome.

41 comments so far

  • Girth

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #1

    hahahahah love that quote about Ireland and Johnson

  • Toonmadtom

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #2

    How can he say we had relegation squad, he is a below average manager, the board is an absoloute shambles. If we dont bring players in this window we have a good chance of goin down

  • nufcindia

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #3

    comments welcome at

  • DanToon

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #4

    “We got offered £3M” for Shay Given so I went back to Manchester City and said I’ll have Stephen Ireland and Michael Johnson for £1M.”“If they’re taking the p*** then I might as well.”

    “We’ve made a bid of £5M and according to his agent the player wants to come. “But his club want £10m.”

    He’s contradicted himself again £5m, for M’bia is the same as Man City offering £3m for Given. The tw@!

  • Tom

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #5

    Rennes want 10 million? Then off 10 million! If your going to constantly undercut a players value, then his team are eventually going to just tell you to sod off. The guy is worth that amount, and then some, so give it to them and bring him to us!!

  • Stuart79

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #6

    Do newcastle not negotiate for players anymore?

    Surely 5m bid for Mbia is a opening offer? It sounds as thoug it’s just that’s the offer take itor leave it.

    He’s right though, this is a relegation squad. It’s full of over rated and over paid morons!

  • joonzy

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #7

    In the Sunday Sun he’s having a pop about the squad size and quality and sais why has the previous manager not addressed it? Is he stupid? Keegan walked out because they wouldn’t back him and strengthen the way he wanted. Big Sam was cattled before he got the chance but before he went we had agreed a deal for Diarra. It’s not the previous managers who are to blame Joe, it’s your current employers who seem to almost want us to get relegated. Mike, invest 20 million and do it quick, cos if we go down, you’ll lose fortunes, loss of the Prem money, you’ll have to halve season ticket prices and your club will be worth 50 million tops. I almost can’t believe the way this situation is unfolding. We are in deep shite, and Ashley doesn’t seem to care. We need 5 players and the only one we can afford to let go is Geremi. In the Summer, we need to get rid of loads of the players who clearly don’t want to be here. To be honest though, I would rather have a new owner and get Shearer in as our manager.

  • Mikeflame

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #8

    it is true hes inherited another managers squad however you do the best with what youve got! any half decent manager would be more than comfortable with the players we have! even Owen turned around and said we work better under 4-3-3 and if we’d have kept that up who knows where we would have been now! just seems its excuse after excuse with JfK! he has no tactics and his only way of bolstering the team when were losing is shove on players in positions that they arent used to!

    yes hes done well to settle the ship but thats all hes good for! he is Roeder in disguise, and look how its going for him post Newcastle! Think joe would be great at getting a team up but pushing a premiership team forward is way out of his limits!

  • belfast toon

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #9


  • square

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #10

    You shouldn’t have extended your contract Joe, no one wants to work for ashley not even chris mort. And he should’ve known this from the outset.

    i guess Mike Ashley knows how to fool people, the way he fooled sheppard he would be the best owner for nufc, the way he fooled kevin keegan he’d back him with us bucks and now kinnear you just realize the deep shite your in.

    You should’ve known that what would make you get more money than kevin keegan! HAHA.

    Btw managers can also be managed by the way he manages sam allardyce hasn’t bought anybody yet mind you.

    utter shambles.

  • Californication

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #11

    Broken record… Yet more spin and contradiction coming from the mouth of Kinnear.

  • square

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #12

    belfasttoon salute

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 18, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #13

    unfortunatley it is Ashley who owns the club not us and as such he can do anything he wants with it – however he needs our money to survive. Every game jokinhere comes out with the importance of the fans to the team – read coffers

    So stop spending your hard earned cash on this rubbish – at least for a couple of matches.

  • Shot Bru

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #14

    Nothing like building team spirit hey Joe. “I’ve inherited this, everyone’s forgot that, they’re not my players.” And what exactly have we the fans forgot?

  • clinta

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #15

    This is rich ‘there not my players’ and the good old ‘well the ref cost us the win today’ andother dodgy penalty routine.

    Not good enough JK it’s getting more obvious by the week, and while we badly need stability at the club, theres no point in stability if its with the wrong man in charge.

    move him on and give the geordie bruce a go if reports are correct that his fed up at wigan.

    with his home town connection he’d be about the only manager daft enough to come to the toon.

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #16

    I h8 the idea of the plastic gerodie bruce at the helm but I must admit he is a class above jokeinhere

  • Stuart79

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #17

    only him or shearer can do it for us.

    we need to give a geordie a go and we can get it over and done with.

  • Geordos

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #18

    So true… The true Kinnear is coming out. He should have refused the extension and left with his head held high…

    He has gone from saying it is a fantastic squad, where the quality has amazed him, to its not my squad yadder yadder yadder…

    He is an excuses man… As the results get worse so will his excuses.

    Keegan was not my choice, but at least he had the balls to walk when it was obvious that he was going to be a puppet.

    If we get relegated, we wont be back up in a hurry….

  • AndyNUFC

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #19

    You lot really are stupid if you think it’s the best idea to get rid of Kinnear. Do we not do stability anymore?

    You lot are the ones that want huge names for huge prices and a manager with a big reputation, but are blind to see we just cannot do things that way. Kinnear is an honest manager and should, like he says, be judged on the signings he makes, and not these god awful players he’s inherited.

  • Geordos

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #20

    P.S> Its all great us saying Shearer or Bruce or another Geordie should come… they will never whilst Ashley etc are here…

  • Geordos

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #21

    Andy… Be fair… look at the results?

    we have won one point out of 12 against mediocre teams like us…. our goal difference has got worse by -8….

    And Kinnear honest??? Even his fellow managers cant believe the gobshite that he comes out with… eg… Walter Smith and Zola

  • Stuart79

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #22

    i was for kinnear but then i looked at his record.

    what is it: 4 wins in 18 games

    that’s relegation i’m afraid

  • craig s chisholm

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #23

    ha ha, i just about give up with newcastle under ashley and his regime. i want to know where all the pro ashley tits are that normally stick up for the way its going at our club and how pleased they are with how well run we are?? speak up lads.
    even jfk is now gobbing off about how ashley has not given him any money. this bloke mbia, we offered 5 million, which is half what he is worth. ffs just give them the ten million, its peanuts to ashley and for sure with his serious lack of investment since day1, we have turned the profit to cover the purchase. i truly want to kick the shite out of ashley and wise and lambiarse. i hate them all so muchthat it makes me see red just seeing his face or anything to do with newcastle. no-one can deny that it has been a MASSIVE disaster wit this king shit owner from day 1.

  • craig s chisholm

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #24

    is that what it is – 4 in 18. shit, we are going down.

  • Geordos

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #25

    Another thing….When Ameobi was offered a new contract AND then he had to consider it first…. I knew we were destined for danger…

  • Spyro

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #26

    Ha, the Ireland and Johnson comment made me chuckle. I honestly think Joe understands how highly players are valued ect, but at the end of the day he has no say in how much we bid for players ect. Hes said it himself many a time, he finds the palyers he wants, Wise and co go out and get em.

  • craig s chisholm

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #27

    andynufc…..jfk honest. you want to take a breath and think about that mate. he lies every single day to us. i agree we should not get rid of him and indeed we wont cos no-one else will touch us, ashley knows this. he did afterall, ask 17 real managers before turning to jfk didnt he. we are all stuck in this massive shit pot. only one thing will change things – some serious investment from king turd NOW. otherwise we are 100% relegated, i can guarentee it.

  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #28

    Im am telling you – there is gonna be murders on at the Mackem match if we have not signed anyway by then.

    Expect chants and protests outside the ground.

    If we get beat (again) that will probably be the last straw for us faithfull toon army.

    Answer me this – why us, why always the toon. I would be happy with mid table finish, fcuk europe its a pipe dream

  • spiderpig

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #29

    how can we play 4-3-3 with only two fit strikers

  • Mikeflame

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #30

    2 fit strikers, duff who can play as a striker/winger and a few kids who are determined to show us what they can do!

  • craig s chisholm

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #31

    toon g……….i agree mate, for once in my life i would just like to have a solid mid table team, a team that sometimes beats the big boys every now and then. this though is killing me. why did god send mike ashley to us. we were far more stable as a prem team under fat fred.

  • Ross

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #32

    As far as The 5 million bid for m’bia goes, i have been sitting there saying “why the hell are we cutting his value by 50&, this is never going to happen, this is pointless bidding bla bla bla”, but i thinking about it..maybe JFK (or wise, probably wise) has realised we need strengthening in numerous Area’s of the pitch. With the small amount of money they’ve been given, after accounting for other players in different positions and potential price tags/values, maybe 5 million was the limit they could stretch to, to bid for m’bia? Lets be honest, Ashley is a tight massive (literally) pr!ck and the chances of him shelling out any more, are slim.

  • toondog

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #33

    CLINTA i agree steve has already said he would love to manage the toon,hes a geordie nahs what it means to the fans why the f*** not get himin give him time n give him the backing he needs hes doing pretty well at wigan n im sure us have more resources than them and as fd up as the club is its still a more attractive than wigan.
    And does know one else agree ranger n lua lua should be giving more oppertunitys i listened to the math on the radio the other day and when lua lua came on he seemed to make an instant impact and all i herd was his name getting mentioned.

  • Lambiastard

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #34

    It sounds like he’s found big Sam’s excuse book, blamed everything but himself Sam did, Refs, not his players, fans expectations too high, injuries. Who knows if he looks hard enough he may find Souness’s excuse book and we all know who’s in that one, the old favourite “Lady Luck” wasn’t with us today.
    Really can’t wait for this season to end, If we stay up or go down thats it for me, I’ve said for the last 5 seasons that I was giving up my ticket and my friend who sits beside me has talked me out of it, now he has decided that he’s had enough and I for one agree with him, it has nothing to do with money but this has been one false dawn too many, sick of this totally clueless owner and his halfwit hangers on.

  • Jan Stavik

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #35

    Joke Kinnear is an amateur, how can he talk about a player he’s wanting to recruit in the media before the deal is done?! Surely Rennes will not accept 5m for a player Kinnear says is “fantastic” and wants to put his hat on.

    I’m not at all impressed with his media handling, I’m praying for a new manager from the summer on.

  • The Original Todd

    Jan 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #36

    His comment about blaming the previous managers is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard.

    It was obvious both Fat Sam and KK wanted to strengthen. Ashley wouldn’t back KK.

    I thought people were being harsh on JK, but maybe Ashley does have him brainwashed.

  • ArtyH

    Jan 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #37

    Quote from JFK ” Kinnear said: “I’ve inherited this. They are not my players, everybody has forgotten that.

    “But our biggest problem is a lack of strength in depth.

    “Why wasn’t it addressed by the last manager Keegan or the manager before him Allardyce?

    “I am carrying the can for it. It is as simple as that”.

    Just shows how much he knows then. That is precicely why Keegan left NUFC, he knew what was happening ie no money players sold without his concent. So he left, we all would if we were honest. He had no control but was taking all the blame which was not his doing. People need to take a reality check. No money for players, blue chip players sold = relegation!!!!
    Shay you have been great for the toon, you could go with good grace and best of luck.
    I am depressed now!!!

  • Paul141726

    Jan 18, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #38

    Earth to Joe Kineer-now you know how Keegan felt having to put up with our S+#t for brains management team!

  • Mag 48

    Jan 18, 2009 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #39

    There has only been three sensible decisions made during the MA ownership and they were made for good reasons by Keegan Mort and Milner. Kinnear is a failed second rate manager who is looking for someone to blame already
    I fear there will be more sensible decisions made by others in the future (a great deal of them will be supporters)

  • Don

    Jan 18, 2009 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #40

    Ameobi is a Kinnear signing


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