Kinnear May Bid High For Mbia And Cancel Loan Deals


Joe Kinnear is in a bit of a pickle because he now must know that if he cannot get some new players in during January, then Newcastle could well be in danger of playing in the Championship next season, and that is now a real threat to anybody who watched the last 30 minutes play against Blackburn yesterday.

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Stephane Mbia – may bid close to £10M for Cameroon International

Joe was speaking to Sky Sports after the 3-0 defeat at Blackburn yesterday after the £5M earlier bid this week for Mbia was turned down by the Rennes club.

But Joe has also said Rennes want £10M for the player, whose agent said is keen to make the move to Newcastle, and Joe may go back and try to do a deal, as he will attend the Lille – Rennes match in France this afternoon, and presumably have negotiations with Rennes officials after the game.

Stephane Mbia didn’t want to talk about the Newcastle bid, although he obviously is aware of it and wants to move to the Premiership – and he told Sky Sports:

“I don’t have anything to say about any bid.”

“What I know most is that Premier League clubs are interested in me, I am at Rennes at the moment, so it is between the teams.”

Joe Kinnear thinks that Mbia is the perfect player for the Newcastle side, and is Kinnear’s first choice to bolster his midfield, but he may have to choose either Mbia or the two loan deals – but not both – unless Ashley can do one loan deals for just one of the two central midfielders in addition to Mbia, which would seem a good option.

Joe Kinnear told Sky Sports last night:

“I have never been a manager who has just blown money. Mbia is my first choice, he is something that we need,”

“If Geremi leaves I might put all my eggs in one basket, cancel the loan players I was considering and pay £10million for one player.”

We think Joe will be even more desperate to get Mbia now, following the terrible defeat yesterday when Newcastle fans at the game were justifiably less than happy with the Newcastle surrender during the last 30 minutes of that game.

It’s one of the first times we’ve seen some players give up the fight before the end of a game, under Joe Kinnear.

Things are heating up at Newcastle and Joe and the Board – who must support their manager right now – just have to bring in some new players in January.

If it means that Mike has to cough up more money than the £10M – so be it.

Mike and the Board got us into this mess, and they can definitely get us out of it, and it’s also in Mike’s best interests at Newcastle to do just that.

Comments welcome.



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65 comments so far

  • catchy in norway

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #1

    WHAT LOANS?

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #2

    DIDNT KNOW WE HAD ANY

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  • tomlkier

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #3

    i’ll give him a month or two before he gets injured, then we’re screwed

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  • tomlkier

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #4

    there are two potential loan deals in progress, they are playing a behind closed doors game on tuesday then decisions will be made after that i think

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  • Doocey

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #5

    Would be a ood addition and I’m in favour of it. Cancelling loan deals…no.

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  • tomlkier

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #6

    zoggy swap?

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  • Doocey

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #7

    good* I mean lol!

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  • geordie jock

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #8

    Is Kinnear off his head, we need more than one new player coming in. We need at least 5 players in my opinion 2 defenders, 2 midfield and 1 striker. Does he not know we are woefully short of players.

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #9

    Even if we did buy M’bia, i dont think he would make that much difference.

    The problem with Newcastle is not our starting 11 (when fit)

    Its our squad, we need half a dozen new players.

    We could go out and only buy Kaka and he would make that much difference, to a squad that is riddled with injuries and lacking in confidence.

    We need a major boost and its not coming internally. That boost has to be external, with new players, enphasis on the pluaral.

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  • Ross

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #10

    We need numbers. We need strength in depth, we’re weak all over the field. What does this mean if it happens-that we’ll only bring in lovenkrands on a free and m’bia for 10 mil?

    You cant put the weight of your season on a couple of mens shoulders, which is exactly what would happen, m’bia especially. If he came in for 10 mil and wasnt immediatly bullying in midfield i’m incredibly confident to say that there would be fans calling him crap and claiming he was a waste of time. Obviously that isnt the case, but we’re desperate for signings and if we only bring in one and he doesnt make a noticeable improvement (it wouldnt be hard), it could turn sour.

    Again, its fat mikes fault. We need alot more than 10 mil and the fact that he will refuse to give us anymore means we have no choice but to sacrifice this or that for a little of something else. Fair enough m’bia is an excellent player, exactly what we need, but he’s exactly what we need in one position. We then need players of m’bia’s ability in their respected positions of LB, RB, RM, AM,ST.

    It’s just never going to happen is it. We’re cursed, im certain of it.

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  • J

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #11

    I guess the reason he is saying he will cancel loans is he did say the loans were expensive ones.

    And if we get this guy he will obviously be 1st choice.

    So maybe he means try and get in another loan player as back rather then expensive ones who may just sit on the bench.

    e.g.

    CM –
    1st Choice -M’Bia
    2nd – Guthrie
    3rd – Barton
    4th – CHEAPER Loan Signing
    5th – Youth Player
    6th – Butt

    Something like that which makes LOADS of sense to me.

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  • Doocey

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #12

    Agreed we need teh two loans M’Bia and possibly Rami. Could be another Bassong 🙂 Although Moroccan.
    I’m sick of the negativity thogh, teams in worse off situations that us too you know….

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  • J

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #13

    Jonas — M’Bia — JOHNSON — Duff/Zog

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #14

    The behind the scenes match eh? Is that what came after the 48hrs to be sorted speach.

    Im betting its a load of bollocks.

    JFK aint got a clue what is going on.

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  • J

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #15

    Agreed Doocey – I mean look at spurs. they’ve spent MILLIONS but wat has it got them? Bottom place.

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  • Ross

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #16

    The most sickening part, is the fact that the loans for all they were described as “expensive”, would actually cost incredibly little. Ashley if he had any sense, quite easily could and should give kinnear the small amount of extra cash, for these loan signings. Although in saying that, if we did, it would mean bringing in four midfielders in Jan, when at the end of the day we’re just as desperate for fullbacks. Who knows, dilemma.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #17

    Does anyone agree that the only thing that would cheer us up is if Pompey fcku up tottenham??

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  • Doocey

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #18

    Given
    Coloccini Bassong Enrique
    Jonas Guthrie M’Bia Barton Duff/Zog
    Owen Carroll

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  • DanToon

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #19

    HAHAHA! Bet there wasn’t even any loan signing’s in the pipeline, he’s a liar!

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  • Partizan

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #20

    I rather buy only 2 top players per window than getting free agents who are injury prone,too old and on massive wages.

    If they want 9-10 mill……get it done,cos in 3 years from now we will see Inter,Real Madrid and all the powerhouse teams making a 25 mill bid for the new Viera.

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  • Mikeflame

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #21

    ermmm might be a bit wrong here but arent loans free-apart from wages. am i being thick or something? we need numbers, one man never makes a team despite how much joe likes him!!

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  • Alex

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #22

    We are staring into the abyss and Ashley is just sitting on his backside doing nothing . What has it come to when our manager has to keep telephoning the owner begging for new players . Yesterday after the penalty you could see the players just gave up , at least Barton tried when he came on but the rest just surrendered .

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  • Doocey

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #23

    A draw at Pompey and Spurs would be nice.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 18, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #24

    Alex – spot on fella.

    Not only did they give up but they did a chelski from last week and got on the bus before the final whistle!

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  • Jan Stavik

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #25

    Tell Wise to stop looking for teenagers, now it’s time to bring experience in.

    8m should be enough to price Mbia away, bring him in. We really need a new full back, I’m sick and tired of watching Enrique giving the ball away now. Edgar is too weak as well, we can’t go on playing him.

    It’s a pity nobody has made a decent offer for N’Zogbia yet, those 8m would give us some money to spend.

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  • tomlkier

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #26

    Graeme, thats what i understood it to be, can’t put my finger on where i read it though 😛

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  • stevep

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #27

    Mikeflame – fraid loan signings aren’t “free” these days, if the players are any good you normally have to pay a fee to loan them plus thier wages

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  • Tom1664

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #28

    Toon Graeme – if you check the interview JK said he’d “possibly” know in the next 48 hours. Obviously he does know but hasn’t told us or he would have announced them and he wouldn’t be playing them on Tuesday to make a final decision on them. I’m pretty sure if he thinks they’re good enough they’ll be announced.

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #29

    Why have lessons not been learnt from the summer ?

    We all know what a shambles the summer transfer window was, with not enough players coming in, not enough money being spent (3-4 million net), poor timing (panic buys on last days).

    Yet over 3 months of planning allowed before the next xfer window opened, we appear to be once again completely unprepared !

    Its Jan’ 18 th, less than half the window gone and we’ve signed no one (need i remind anyone) and it appears we have spent more time offering contracts to Joe, Shola and Carroll ! All things that could have been done outside the window.

    We have also, it appears been wasting time with our ‘targets’.
    I’m no proffessional football agent, but i along with most average knowledged football fans, knew we would not get M’bia for 5 million. Why bother wasting everyones time, i accept it if its to get the ball rolling, but lets roll!

    Again why are we wasting time speaking with the agents of Ferguson and Neill, instead of the bloody clubs?

    This club / board / owner appears incapable of learning from his own mistakes. At least hes incontrol of our destiny.

    As for the fans, its like watching a car crash, we can see it happening, but we cant do a bloody thing about it !

    BRACE YOURSELVES LADS N LASSES!

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  • MarkO

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #30

    Given

    Beye Colo Bass Enrique

    Jonas Mbia Perriera Barnetta

    Boyd Oba

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  • AndyNUFC

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #31

    When it has came to the day that we have to cancel 2 loan deals amounting to £1million and to buy one player for £10million it says a lot.

    We can’t even spend £11million.

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  • tomlkier

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #32

    10mil budget is enough if spent wisely:

    Swap Zog (plus 2m) for M’Bia
    Risse (3m)
    Finnan (squad player 1.3m)
    Dunne (4m)

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  • Doocey

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #33

    Agreed J, the media aren’t bombing us with relegation stories just yet either because there are teams in worse positions than us. Middlesbrough lost 3-0 to West Brom, as unjust as it may seem they are in a worse position than us…

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  • cooldj

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #34

    haha yeah cancel those ‘loan’ deals

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #35

    Just read the match review on yesterday and its worth a read – sums it all up.

    From NUFC.com

    Minging in the rain

    Blackburn Rovers 3 Newcastle 0

    Forget the humiliation of losing to a side below us in the table who would have gone bottom had we won; discard the on-field failings and off-field rancour from the away section – the most unpalatable thing about this debacle was the smug facial expression of the Rovers boss.

    Sam Allardyce watched on as his current side struggled through to half time without conceding a goal, before netting three without reply in a second half when his former employers surrendered with barely a whimper.

    And he will have gained special satisfaction from hearing the large travelling contingent switch their vocal output from mocking him to abusing their current manager and owner, as well as dredging up Keegan-related chants.

    United had dominated a fairly uneventful first half, with Andy Carroll coming closest to scoring when heading past the post early on and later seeing an effort blocked on the goal line. Butt meanwhile spooned over a good chance.

    The home defence didn’t seem to relish a physical battle with the young striker, but crucially our set pieces and service to the forwards was again poor – with Duff especially profligate on his return to Ewood Park.

    Into the second half and to a backdrop of “Big Sam’s boring football” and other more choice anti-Allardyce chants from the Darwen End, Owen broke forward but strangely elected to pass rather than shoot.

    Rather more direct just moments later was Carroll, who turned and cracked a fierce shot narrowly wide.

    Unfortunately that proved to be the last semblance of entertainment – or hope – for those travelling fans gathered behind that goal.

    Former Rover Given had brought applause from all four sides of the ground when he palmed away a McCarthy
    free kick, but could do nothing when the same player
    lined up to beat him from the penalty spot soon after.

    Despite being half the pitch away, referee Rob Styles decided that David Edgar’s foul on the striker was illegal and awarded his third spot kick against us in as many games this season and the ninth in our 22 PL games.

    The heavens opened at that point and almost before we’d had time to regroup, Rovers poured forward again and Pedersen’s pass caught our defence napping as Roberts blasted home a second goal just five minutes later.

    It took Kinnear almost another ten minutes however to make a change, with surprise substitute Joey Barton appearing for the uninterested N’Zogbia, who was rightly booed for his non-performance.

    And the by-now enraged Newcastle fans had to wait still longer for Gutierrez to appear off the bench, having been warming up almost since the first whistle.

    There seemed to be a certain reluctance on the part of JFK to make the switch, which at the time was being interpreted as defiance in the face of crowd pressure – but was later claimed to be because Jonas wasn’t 100% fit.

    His appearance by then though was academic, with United quickly down to 10 men as Butt let his frustration get the better of him with a rash challenge that earned him a second yellow card – and then saw him unwisely kick the ball at Styles as he departed from the field.

    A third goal rounded off the misery and saw Given forced to intervene as an enraged Barton seemed set to make his point to the culpable Jose Enrique rather too forcefully.

    By now the Toon supporters had moved on to that old favourite “we’re sh*t and we’re sick of it”, with more than a few choruses of “Joe Kinnear, you’re having a laugh” – and bursts of “Keegan Wonderland” and sundry Ashley insults.

    The final whistle saw a handful of players applaud the away end – urged by Chris Hughton – but Shay Given made his way quickly down the tunnel and out of sight, forsaking his regular appreciation of the fans.

    If he’d finally reached the point of no return with this bloody cowboy outfit, then we couldn’t blame him.

    We may be 13th in the league but we are lucky not to be adrift in the bottom three at this stage, saved only by the surrounding mediocrity – not least on the Tees and wear.

    Two weeks remain to bolster a squad to keep us in the top flight – but without buying two full backs then
    frankly, we may as well lodge bids for Girls Aloud.

    After ever-increasing amounts of verbal diarrhoea from Kinnear culminated in his new contract codswallop, the best thing he can do now is keep his trap shut in public and get on the “trombone” to try and pull us out of the proverbial.

    What a pity though he didn’t fancy taking on Allardyce in some technical area jousting today, after a warm up bout with his midget pal in midweek – it would have been nice to see someone related to United show some fight…

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  • Partizan

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #36

    When someone says we’re cursed and there’s no hope for our team….makes me wanna puke to be honest.

    Stop being so bloody depresive and lets get behind the team.
    We’re still suffering from the BSA syndrome:Cacapa,Geremi,Smith,Viduka,
    Barton(in terms of wage only).

    All these players have contributed absolutely NOTHING……thats around 280k per week money down the drain if you ask me.

    We’re not cursed guys don’t be daft,we’re just full with dead wood which needs cleaning.

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  • cooldj

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #37

    barton and guthrie is a top 12 cm pairing. what we need is more players. more bodies through the door, crucially a left back and yes a dm-but not neccessarily a 10mil one. some pace would be great too, but i’d say we need

    Lovenkrands
    LB 4mil
    RB (loan)
    CDM 6mil
    RM (loan)

    sell geremi, cacapa

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  • Doocey

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #38

    Agreed Partizan,

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  • Alex

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #39

    Its in the Sunday sun that Mooney went to watch carlisle united top scorer Danny Graham yesterday . So we are scouting in the first division to find a replacement for Owen .

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  • NotAGhostToon

    Jan 18, 2009 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #40

    How creative is mbia?
    I know he’s a defensive mid and i don’t mean fabregas type creative, i mean carrick style, whereby balls are spread up the pitch to set off an attack?

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