Kinnear Must Save Newcastle With Or Without Owner’s Help


Joe Kinnear has come out today and said he full appreciates the pain and frustration the Newcastle fans are feeling, as we seem to be moving into one of the most dangerous times we’ve ever had, of being relegated for the first time ever from the Premier League.

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Joe Kinnear – understands the fans’ pain and frustration

The Newcastle fans are still getting over the shock of being taken to the cleaners in the second half by a Blackburn Rovers side that were 5 points behind us in the league before Saturday’s game yet ended up easy winners at 3-0.

We now have the worst points total ever in the Premier league after 22 games, and that’s saying something, since this is the 3rd season in a row the fans have been invited to support a team that is struggling against relegation, and it seems like it’s now an annual event.

Newcastle are just just two points above bottom place in the league, and we also have some difficult league games coming up.

Kinnear, who has the job of trying to save the team, with or without the requisite support from owner Mike Ashley and the Board, told the Evening Chronicle today:

“The fans must vent their anger – I understand that.” “In the first half at Blackburn the fans were as good as gold.”

“They were chanting, singing and enjoying themselves.” “But my hands are tied with what I can do for them.”

“It was a disappointing day for everybody.” “It would be different if I had every single player at the club available to me. But I haven’t, so what else can I do but battle on.”

“I have been criticized since I arrived here. But I have broad shoulders, and I know I am more than capable of keeping the club up.”

“Whatever happens, if I do stay I don’t want to be in this position in 12 months time.”

Kinnear has been offered a contract on Tyneside to stay at the club until 2011, but he has not immediately accepted the deal, because it seems he is unsure of owner Mike Ashley’s plans for the club, and whether Mike is really willing to fund the required number of new players into the club.

Mike Ashley’s words just don’t cut it, since he has not proved it with his actions, either last summer, or so far this January, that he really wants to rebuild Newcastle into as top club, which is all the fans want.

Joe continued:

“I need to have my own players and put my own stamp on the team.”

“Providing we stay up – we will rebuild.” “It’s crying out to be rebuilt.” “That’s what is needed.”

“At the moment I have to get the best out of what I’ve got because this is a patched-up team and people have been played out of position.”

Joe has done quite well until recently, when the team has been hit by injury, and in the the last 6 games we have four defeats and two draws, and the Spurs 2-1 victory was our last win.

The good news is that there are a lot more teams in the relegation quagmire this season, with just 5 points separating the bottom 10 teams.



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155 comments so far

  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #1

    Newcastle need Chesley B. Sullenberger more than they need Joe Kinnear

    By Dan Silver, Mirror.co.uk 20/01/2009

    Mike Ashley has always seemed to be a man whose grip on the realities of running a football club were tenuous at best.

    But his decision to offer interim manager Joe Kinnear “a lucrative” long-term contract – revealed, of course, by the never knowingly discrete Kinnear himself – shows that he’s lost whatever semblance of a plot he once had.

    Kinnear is one of those increasingly irritating, anachronistic old school managers who refuse to accept any responsibility for their team’s plight whatsoever.

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    The list of external forces that supposedly brought about his side’s latest implosion – against, oh delicious irony, a side managed by Newcastle reject Sam Allardyce – was so comprehensive that you half expected him to blame a bird-strike as well.

    Actually, that last might not have been so out of place: because, like that fateful flight out of La Guardia, the only direction Newcastle are heading under this regime is downwards.

    And Joe Kinnear is no Chesley B. Sullenberger.

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  • RyanToon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #2

    so does this mean no money signings this month? great

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #3

    JK is in my opinion an odious loud mouthed football dinosaur.

    His level of professionalism and conduct is now seriously in question as is his skills as a tactical premiership manager.

    Let’s be honest fella’s this man is a total clown,he is a shame faced liar,he constantly contradicts himself,he is blaming past managers to cover his own inadequate back…sorry JK your time is up.

    The buck stops here.

    Next.

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  • Kash

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #4

    The press do hate Kinnear though, so I would hardly say that an exerpt from the Mirror is hradly subjective!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #5

    There will be signinings…all heading out the exit door to other clubs as Fat boys strips the Toon’s assets for his own financial gains.

    He will sell Given and Co nearer the end of the window so he has an excuse for not re investing the money..just like the James Milner Cash.

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  • Kash

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #6

    If we change manager now, then we won’t sign any players! Then we’re faced with the increased threat of relegation!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #7

    Even Bobby Moncur has voiced that he is worried.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #8

    We
    won’t be signing any players that have the quality to craft some wins.

    Think Loan Deals,Freebies and Sports direct shelf damaged crap.

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  • Kash

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #9

    Seriously though, what benefit would Ashley get in stripping all the clubs assets and us getting relegated?

    If we get relegated, he won’t make anywhere near the amount of money he spent on the club!

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  • Chizzy_Toon.

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #10

    Joes Comment:

    “Providing we stay up – we will rebuild.” “It’s crying out to be rebuilt.” “That’s what is needed.”

    Sounds to me that there is no money to be spent in January, and Ashley is hoping on staying in the Premiership before he spends.

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  • Stuart79

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #11

    This has confirmed exactly what we already knew.

    No money available and relegation!

    Thanks Mike

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #12

    He is hoping we just survive with minimal investment.

    That is what he is hoping.

    Personally I am coming to terms with relegation under JK and the current regime.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #13

    Sir Jason, what James Milner cash?

    Didnt that Go on Xisgo (get it) and Nacho (who) or some of it. The rest probably was haemoraged or went on high wage earners.

    Here is a figure for you.

    Say 46K x £25 (season ticket / cash seats) = £1150000 per game at SJP x 18 = £20700000 per year roughly on tickets in the stadium.

    Thats some money coming in aint it.

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  • totsy

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #14

    sorry guys but your all wrong…jk has come into a side that is extremly thin and has every right to blame past managers for it.

    keegan couldnt handle the pressure and couldnt hack haveing a team like newcastle at his disposal and at the end of the day he walked out on us, very cowardly of him. allladyce was the same. couldnt assemble a decent team. but now we have a good oppurtunity, we have a manager and owner who seem to see eye to eye and know excactly were they wont to take the club. you all need to stop under estimating joe.

    give it to the end of the season imo….thats when you must make your mind up on kinnear because one week you alll praise him and the next he a villian and its so childish and alot of you need to get a grip

    heres to a top 10 finish

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #15

    If this is what Ashley calls moving on together in 09 he is one seriously messed up man.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #16

    Nonsense Tootsy Look at Everton.

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  • Kash

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #17

    I’ll give JK and MA until the end of the month!

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  • filthy mag

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #18

    Understandable that he wants to wait and see if we stay up or not but surely he can see that we need players on the pitch not in a few years time. A bit of an outlay now will help ensure that for the next transfer window, we shall be Premiership and he can continue with the rebuilding in earnest. Now is not the time to procrastinate.

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  • totsy

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #19

    what about everton…..they are under a very similar regime to newcastle but unlike us have allowed the manager to settle down and create his own team that he can be familiar with….our current team doesnt fit joes style of play

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  • RyanToon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #20

    ashley said we will all move forward together this year, i.e money spent in january, well mike you fooled us yet again, you ****

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  • CLINT FLICK

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #21

    At least everton have stuck with their manager for more than 10 minutes and he doesn’t run off crying.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #22

    That is some wedge…Kerching !!

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  • beyethegreat

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #23

    if ashley doesnt spend then it wil be abundantley clear he is trying to get us relegated

    for what reason i dont know it certainley wouldn’t make financial sense

    perhaps he realy is a spurs fan

    or mentally retarded

    or does not understand anything about football

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  • super.trooper

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #24

    I still think we will get out of this mess and go onto better things.

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  • Rem

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #25

    Kash

    and i would hardly say an “expert” from the mirror

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  • Spitfire

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #26

    It is clear now that Ashleys strategy is to do a SportDirect on Newcastle United and take them ‘downmarket’. It is all very well having a Premiership club to play with but if at the end of the day profit margins are minimal its really not that much fun. You can have vast income coming in but if you also have vast expenditure going out – chiefly to high wage-earning unproductive players then its not all that lucrative. Far better then to have a Championship club with lower income and very much lower expenditure (all the high wage earners will jump ship and bring in fees) which will in turn increase profit margins exponentially. What is the better option : 1% of £400million (£4m) as a premiership club or 10% of £60m (£6m) as a Championship club ? The figures are for illustration-I don’t know the real ones. But you get my drift? Don’t think for one second that Ashley does not know what he is doing. He will have all of his spreadsheets before him with every “What If” scenario mapped out before his little piggy eyes .Of course in his strategy somewhere there may be an element of revenge on the fans who turned on him and forced him out of St James’ Park but that just makes it all the sweeter for him doesn’t it? As does all the handwringing, the anguish and the upset in the run up to relegation. It ain’t about football any more my little cherubs, this time its personal. This time its about money. When external forces determine that we are going to go the journey, then go the journey we will. Nothing can stop it. Just ask Northern Rock, Woolworths, Findus, Wedgewood, Zavvi to name but a few. Ah! you will say: but that is about the UK economics nothing to do with a football club. Ah I will respond : then you are culeless as you think Ashley probably is. Get real. Anyway my forlorn hope is that no-one renews their season tickets for next season and Ashley’s brave new championship world is heralded by a substantially empty stadium and worse substantially empty pockets..

    Oh : and to all of you who criticised Keegan : hang your heads in shame. At the very least he showed morals principles and dignity

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  • CLINT FLICK

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #27

    the press are scunt.

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  • CLINT FLICK

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #28

    the press are nutsc

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  • totsy

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #29

    mike ashley is self made millionaire so he aint daft…..think……..would he really want to decrease the value of the club?? no ofcourse not…..it would make no sense what so ever

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  • dontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #30

    kash

    I think MA would not mind the club getting relegated cos he can get rid of the high earners that no one wants i.e smith, he transferred a 100 mill debt to himself so the club pays him, he only paid 144 mill being relegated drops 40 to 60 mill of that value. He has a group of youngsters which he can sell if good 5-10 mill so he will make so much money off that. Mid table chapionship side no real high wages gates of 20-30 thousand all he needs and he will have a constant flow of money.

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  • filthy mag

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #31

    Good piece Spitfire

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  • nightfall

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #32

    it’s probably ‘cos noone of the players JK wants want to join a club which might get relegated…we could probably get only our 3rd or 4th cjoice players…and that is a waste of money…we might end up with another smiths… i say start a championship with our youngsters..get rid off well..everybody else..clowns who get payer 60k+/week and contribute problems…and build up form there..

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  • totsy

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #33

    never thought of it like that spitfire……but still….i can definatly see the club moving forward soon….theres a long way to go til the end of the season

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #34

    I am just worried sick…anyone sticking up for Mike and his regime is clearly crazy.

    This club under his supposed guidance has been driven into the ground is a very short space of time.

    I really want this man out of the Club before the damage is too big to mend.

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  • Spitfire

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #35

    Totsy
    Hope you are right but I don’t know what evidence you are looking at

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  • super.trooper

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #36

    sirjasontoon

    BAN

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  • lesh

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #37

    Memo to Mr [Un]Wise

    From M Ashly

    The BBC’s reporting that the Arshavin to Arsenal deal is only ’50-50′.

    Does that mean we’re still in with a chance of signing him Dennis?

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  • WesToon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #38

    Been keeping quiet,the whole time BUT now this is getting pathetic…. If we go down Mike better watch his fekking back as should the rest of his family!! There is only so much i can take without seriously SNAPPING FFS

    He doesnt realise that what is happening to OUR beloved club,affects us in such a huge way!!

    I mean i can barely sleep,eat,work..im like a zombie

    Pls somebody(Shearer,Sir Bobby,Moncur) SOS!!

    SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #39

    Totsy…can you please identify what signs you have seen that the club are or will move forwards I would like to know?

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  • Tel

    Jan 20, 2009 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #40

    Well finally I have had enough, no one in a position of power seems to be interested in our concerns, perhaps they know something we dont. Anyhow, I had signed a direct debit to start paying for next years season tickets, due to start next month and have today cancelled it. I will bide my time and IF we invest in the team, and If we show some signs of the club being run professionally then I will renew come summer, if not then the attendance will be two lower and likely many more will do likewise. Ashley isnt communicating, Llambias isnt and from what I see it seems like wise is running everything, sure we have a great crop of youngsters, but that isnt helping us maintain premier league status. Just look at the comments, Shola given new deal so we can build a team around him, In the 7 or so years he has been here I can count maybe a handfull of decent games he’s had. Kinnear allegedly offered long term lucrative deal, the man just doesnt have tactical awareness or respect of the players he has, I agree its now too late to get rid of him this year as it would turn the boat upside down rather than rocking it. Our only hope of salvation is a serious buyer comes in in the summer hopefully after we have a successful relegation surval battle and ashley is never seen again. Further we have some massive games coming up and I for one am dreading the mackems visit, they arent any better than us but at least they are fighting as a unit. If only I had three wishes…….

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