Danny Guthrie Leaves Training Ground On Crutches


We may have spoken too quickly yesterday, when we said nobody else was injured yesterday at Newcastle United.

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Danny Guthrie – on crutches with hamstring injury

Now it looks like the injury jinx has hit again and it’s in training again, as Danny Guthrie limped away from the training ground yesterday on crutches.

The extent of the damage to Guthrie’s hamstring is not yet known, but it is doubtful he will make the game at Eastlands a week today.

What is it that we do in training that causes us to have so many injuries?

Even when we don’t have games, we seem to have our players go down with all kinds of injuries, with hamstring problems seemingly being the most common of the injuries, and achilles problems close behind.

Are the any Sherlock Holmes out there that can help the club on this?

And we are now being told that Alan Smith has suffered a set-back in his recovery from his Achilles injury, so he will be out longer than we had anticipated.

Add to that the news yesterday and this morning, that is all over the place in the press, that Newcastle players Andy Carroll and Charles N’Zogbia fought in full view of Carlisle United’s players as they warmed up for yesterday’s behind-closed-doors friendly, and again the news at the club is less than good.

It seems like yesterday was just another day in the life of Newcastle United football club, and even more frustration for Newcastle supporters.

Of course with Nicky Butt getting himself suspended again, Kinnear will have Barton for midfield against Man City, and he may have to do with Geremi, if the Cameroon International is still at the club next week.

Of course we could also have a central midfielder signed before next Wednesday, but we’ll not hold our breath on that one.

The injuries that Newcastle keep getting during training are caused by something, and the sooner the club finds that out and corrects the problem, the sooner we will not be top of the Premier League Injury table every single week, and have an injury crisis on our hands – every single season.

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82 comments so far

  • JMC

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #1

    great

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  • JMC

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #2

    there’s been no word on lovenkrands?
    did he perform well yesterday does anyone know?

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  • RichY

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #3

    just what we wanted.

    I’m getting sick of this.

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  • workyticket

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #4

    It’s happened under several different managers, all using different training methods. It must be the pitch at the training ground.

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  • Purely Belter

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #5

    wonderful

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  • RichK

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #6

    This is becoming a joke, it’s not just bad luck it’s something that we are doing or maybe not doing!!we need to seriously investigate this because if this carries on we are going to be in serious danger of relegation this year!!we need to get some bodies in before the city game as a matter of urgency!

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  • Chris G

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #7

    Unbelievable! Just when you start to think that things couldn’t possibly get any worse…..

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  • ginkoh

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #8

    Cursed, Bad training program, Bad luck, hard pitch.

    that’s all we can blame.

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  • Spyro

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #9

    Just read this about one of the youngsters –

    However, with interest growing, and the lethargic way Newcastle are handling their transfers of late, Raitala may be forced to reconsider his options, and move to one of the interested clubs if an offer from the Magpies does not arrive soon.

    If we loose this kid and ends up becoming a star at ajax becouse we go for another coloccini esq “lets wait a month before actually signing him” itl be a disgrace.

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  • Mickalonius

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #10

    Why we suffer so many injuries is really a mystery, it cannot be down to training as all the past managers complained of decimated squads, I thinks its down to playing players without suffecient time for recovery, in otherwords, the squad is too small and we cannot give players a break, otherwise I just don’t get it….

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  • chanty

    Jan 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #11

    see post 258 on previous topic, ffs!!!

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  • Edd Case

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #12

    It can only happen at Newcastle.

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  • Darling27

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #13

    Lovely

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  • Angryman the Angry fan

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #14

    Its nothing to do with the pitch, its nothing to do with the training methods…
    Its to do with whats going on in the players heads!!

    The club is run shambolically form the top to the bottom with only the tea lady coming out with any credit.

    It has been said by me on here for almost 2 years (Along with a few others). We are what is known as realists, yet there are STILL people on here willing to give Cashley the Benefit of the doubt. (Although I must add alot of them have crawled back under their Cashley stones)Thats their perogative, but when the facts are laid down on the table in front of them, the bloke has made nothing of a pigs arse of running our club, he has dragged it through the dirt and is still not yet satisfaied that he now feels the need to filthy it even more, by using a front man that spots nothing but fouls and abusive messages to officials and lies to the lifeblood!! These are the actual facts of what is going on at our football club.

    Players see this from internally, morale is so low (Nevermind Kinnears party line that its great) that the so called star players all want to leave, will not sign new contracts, and the ones who are on longterm contracts simply arent being motivated to play.

    I agree with one thing that the foul cockney paddy says. The place needs a clear out (Again) but it must start right at the Very Top and end at the very bottom and as for JFK, well simple really Joe…….. F**K off……..

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #16

    Bad News.

    Well at least we have a creche full of youngsters for the future.

    The depth of our squad is an absolute joke.

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  • square

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #17

    number of injuries is relative. a squad with every position covered by at least 1 player injuries would go almost unnoticed and effect would be almost negligible.

    we have a small squad and really really short on quality. quality that depends also on form. form for some players can come and go. players that we have are at best 2nd tier players in terms of class. their consistency cannot be relied on henceforth.

    so my point is- ignorant idiot who owns the club is to be blamed.

    if we lack quality physios and coaches – still the blame lies there. buck doesn’t stop at the manager now it’s the owner.

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  • Chris G

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #18

    Off topic, but did anyone else read Lee Ryder’s Blog on the Tyne?
    http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2009/01/same-sht-different-manager.html

    It’s worth reading the comments – some of these guys have been supporting the Toon for 50 years or more, and you can feel their pain.

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  • tilley

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #19

    It really gets to you sometimes 🙁

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  • Born Again Geordie

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #20

    Will we ever hear anything positive from the club ever again?

    We are a laughing stock and we just keep getting worse. 🙁

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  • Angryman the Angry fan

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #21

    PS The stats that I read somewhere the other day say that, and I believe this is an opinion poll only, that 1 in four will NOT be renoewing their season tickets, out of 20 of fellow ticket holders I know, 10 of them have stated, regardless of what will happen this season they will Not be renewing, 6 of them are unsure and Myself and my son, by best pal and his son are currently sitting on the fence, purely because we want our kids growing up as Newcastle United fans, as we have…………and that is FACT….1 in 2 would be closer to the figure!!

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  • super.trooper

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #22

    Rumour has it that Robinhio has committed a very serious crime and wont be coming back to the country according to itks on the city boards.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #23

    I cant wait to get Shittu on the back of my toon lonsdale shirt in the championship next season : )

    Happy Days

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  • Toon_Sydney

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #24

    Do u guys have ur boots? looks like u have a chance playin next week against man citeh, we have horrendous injuries and our team is shyte im sure any1 on this blog good do better then half the team

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #25

    And what has that got to do with NUFC you pleb.

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  • Nick D

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #26

    I think a lot of it is down to the type of ”old school” british mangers that we have had, who want confrontational rather than passive and positional training that places emphasis on technical skills and passing.

    Joke kinenar has got everyone at it. 3 touchline bans for himself, Barton and Enrique, now Carroll and N’Zogbia. Joke is just great for team spirit isn’t he, as well as telling some players they are crap, while his favourites are untouchable (Duff, Butt, Owen.)

    People say Joke sticks up for himself, but I don’t think he hass any balls at all. He’s an intellectual and tactical pygmy.

    Kinnear has to be got rid of asap. Zola would have been so much better to work with the kids and play good football.

    The longer Kinnear stays the more permanent damage he will do and we will defintiely go dow. We need a young manager with possibly a Houllier / Ranieri type helping him.

    Allardyce before him and now and Kinnear both represent long ball, negative, physical, ugly, ground emptying football.

    This, allied to a belief that any creative skill should be an absolute premium, offside should be a mantra and youth is something to be terrified of, should have served as a warning to both set of employers at Newcastle and Blackburn, where in recessionary times, entertainment from the ” beautiful game ” is craved more than ever.

    Allardyce and Kinnear are extemely unattractive, uninspiring ” old school ” dinosaurs and the game and fans are not served by their continuing presence, where the benchmark for the top 4 / 6 teams progress is a different country. A long hard winter for both teams and their ” luddite ” bosses looms.

    A great article by Ian Smith in http://www.talkofthetyne.com

    However, I can’t help thinking that the protest against Ashley has backfired against us spectacularly.

    Re the West ham scenario with Curbishley at the same time. Curbishley departs very quietly and they bring in Zola a fantastic coach and man manager.

    After the protest, however justified people may have felt at the time, no decent manager was going to touch us.

    Hence we are left with the absolute pits of a manager.
    Either Ashley is just totally ignorant about football or Kinnear has got some secret pics of him !

    I hope and pray Kinnear will walk away, but it’s just our luck that the madoc fraud affair in the States came when some potential US ” takeover ” investors could have got £1 sterling at $1.35.

    Will our bad luck never end !!!

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  • square

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #27

    Nick D

    i was watching football focus with steve mcmahon (liverpool legend) on it commenting the exact same thing how Kinnear is old school 4-4-2 in your face etc….

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  • Archie Brand

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #28

    If I remember correctly they changed the training facility pitch during the reign of Souness because they thought the surface was causing the problems. Apparently not the cause.

    Maybe we’re just no good when it comes to identifying knackered players during medicals and we end up signing a bunch of cripples.

    Maybe its the cold weather in the North East

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  • Chris G

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #29

    Nick D
    Wow, what a great post! Spot on mate 🙂

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  • alextoon

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #30

    You hope and pray Kinnear walks away? And then what?

    It’s because we, the fans keep nailing our managers and owners to a cross.

    Shepherd, Ashley, Gullit, Dalgiesh, Wise, Roeder, Souness, Allardyce…even Sir Bobby.

    It’s always something to do with one of them and never to do with our own impatience as fans is it?

    The bottom line is this…if Ashley had not paid off the crippling debt we had…we could be heading in to the Championship 80 million in debt…coupled with the 30 million loss of TV revenue. It would be bye bye Toon, say hello to Leeds on the way down.

    Ashley and co have made mistakes….but on the plus side…behind the scenes the club is now debt free with some fantastic youngsters being snapped up…so if now, the worst comes to the worst and we do drop down…..the club will have an excellent foundation with regards to coming straight back up instead of free-falling like Leeds.

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  • square

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #31

    blame the owner he employed him. can’t blame kinnear desperate for money. credit crunch ofcourse he’s not going to walk away.

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  • square

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #32

    alextoon shut up. im so impatient about getting relegated.

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  • super.trooper

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #33

    sirjasontoon- I didnt realise you were the site moderator. I thought it was interesting news. Like yourself i will just post negative thoughts about newcastle instead.

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  • Whumpie

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #34

    Nobody seems to want to answer the question raised by this article, i.e. WHY DO WE GET SO MANY INJURIES?

    Yes, it’s relative and we have a small squad, so we feel it more, and I agree with the point about old-fashioned managers. BUT:

    1. There is no such thing as luck/curses etc.
    2. Mickalonius and others who say all managers had this problem: wrong. Sam Allerdyce took us from the top of the Physioroom table to the bottom in three months.

    It’s all down to proper conditioning: diet, calesthenics (that’s stretching to you and me), proper warming up and warming down, personal massage therapists, and in particular – lots of yoga (ask Gary Speed).

    This is not luck, or a training pitch, as BSA proved. We just don’t realise that conditioning is its own science and is as important as practicing set pieces. The club should re-build BSA’s back-room approach, which cost a fraction of one player being injured.

    No mystery, Ed. Just small-minded people at the club not thinking straight. As usual.

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  • alextoon

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #35

    square who the hell you think your telling to shut up?

    I dont suppport Ashley…I just don’t buy this blame everyone else crap.

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  • GeordieJayne

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #36

    I honestly really think we are jinx, cursed whatever you want to call it.

    Can you remember the eye infection that had a lot of our players out while Bobby Robson was here now that’s nowt to do with training.

    Makes you wonder whats up.

    CASHLEY OUT

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  • Whumpie

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #37

    Nick D: yep, that is a great post. good point about the exchange rate, too.

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  • GeordieJayne

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #38

    Alextoon you have no proof whatsoever that Cashley paid debts off I kind of think it is the reverse

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  • GeordieJayne

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #39

    Some pro Cashley snearking onto the site under new names lol wonder who they are he he.

    Have a go if you like I have strong shoulders

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  • craig s chisholm

    Jan 21, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #40

    super trooper, of course sirjason posts negative blogs – CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING POSITIVE?? I am fcuked if i can. our club is finished, 100% relegated and on its knees through ZERO investment from ashley. as for guthrieand his hamstring ed,…………of course he wont be back, any ham injurie, no matter how small is three weeks, we know this. guthrie out nad smith in as far as i can see. our training ground and the way we seem to train is the worst in the prem.
    i wonder if its the surface they are playign on or something. either way, this is just one more nail in the coffin as far as everything is concerned. and still not a single fcuking signing. i hate ashleys guts.

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