Newcastle Goalkeeper Situation To Be Settled Within 24 Hours


News in the Evening Chronicle today that Shay Given and his lawyer Michael Kennedy will meet Derek Llambias and Joe Kinnear in the next 24 hours to finally settle the goalkeeper’s future.

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Shay Given – Newcastle future decided within 24 hours

One reason the decision will need to be made now is there will be players Newcastle will want to sign while keeping Shay Given at Newcastle and others, players they could possibly get from Manchester City in part exchange, so they will need to know which tract to take.

If Given leaves there is a likelihood we’ll get a couple more players through the door before next Monday, although neither one will need to be a goalkeeper because Harper, Krul and Forster can handle that at the club, without any new goalkeeper being needed.

If the decision is made to let Given go there’s no way he will  play between the posts for either side at Eastlands on Wednesday night, and any potential deal thankfully would be completed after the midweek fixture.

If Shay leaves and to have him play us against is on Wednesday would be very difficult, to say the least, for the Geordie fans, and no doubt for Shay too.

With Kinnear being present at the meeting, we think Joe could still try to persuade Given not to leave Newcastle.

When Kenendy issued the statement that Given would consider his options following the 5-1 hammering against Liverpool at St. James’ on Sunday, December 28th he had said:

“When he signed a five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honors.”

“But on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival.”

But it’s hard to argue that we are anywhere near winning any trophies, and certainly a certain French immature youngster seems to have given up on the club already.

We’ll know the status soon on Shay, and certainly before the game on Wednesday night at Manchester City.

If Shay leaves then Michael Owen will also be out the door in the summer, but we seem to be tracking some strikers already to replace him.

If Michael leaves in the summer, each goal he scored for Newcastle will have cost the club around £1.2M, for one of the worst deals ever made in the Premier league – at least for a club.

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434 comments so far

  • Toon_Fresh

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #1

    Can’t wait for this to be over. If he goes, he needs to go soon so we can spend that money.

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  • lesh

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #2

    Wonder if the club’ll put a no play on Wednesday into the contract?

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  • RichY

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #3

    he should go.

    it would suit club and him if this happens.

    we really need the cash to build the team.

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  • Ally

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #4

    if Shay goes which to be fair is looking the best bet, then we have to spend the money we are given, if we do that then we should be OK this season.

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  • durhammag

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #5

    I can’t believe that JK, DL are only sitting down with Shay and his reps now!! This should hae been done weeks ago when the statement was released that he wasn’t happy. The fact that Citeh have already been in for Shay would suggest that there should have been a strategy where JK and the board had an agreement at what point they would agree to let him go. To only sit down now and decide his future sems a little un-organised. Why am I surprised!!!

    On Michael Owen: let him go. Quality strcker that he is, he has been a big disappointment for me, and the £100k a week would be better used elsewhere

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #6

    I dont think the deal will be done before Wednesday and think Hughes wont use him against us – the players head needs to be in the right place and after a fresh move and no time with new team mates before kick off would not leave him as an option.

    One thing is for sure we have more than Capable with Harper. Come on son sign that line for another 3 years.

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  • Benny Boy

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #7

    If he does go I hope we get a player in exchange.

    Off the subject but do we know if we signed the young left back on trial last week

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  • RyanToon

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #8

    i pray shay stays please! but sadly i cant see it

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  • Brettoon

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #9

    So do I Ryantoon.

    If he goes it really shows what Ashley has done to our club

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  • RyanToon

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #10

    agreed brettoon

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2171125.ece

    have you seen the trouble at hull vs millwall, click the link

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  • crazydave

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #11

    I dont fancy Dunne as part payment, he’s no better than what we’ve got, and he likes scoring in his own net

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  • bowburnmag

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #12

    Even though I understand the arguments for him to leave and us and him to benefit, I feel like we’d not just be trying to replace a great goalkeeper. We’d be losing part of the fabric of the club. Maybe a fresh start is what he and we both need but for me over the years he’s been much of what has been good about the club. I think we’d miss more than his blinding point blank range saves.

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  • Kash

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #13

    It represents decent business to me to let Given leave, especially in this current climate. Lets face it, we’ve got quality keepers in supply with Harper and Krul. I’d rather see Given leave for £10m than see Krul leave for £2m. Krul is going to be the successor to Van der Sar!

    As for the given Deal, i’ve read that Dunne could be a possible makeweight. I’d rather have Dunne come through than McManus from Celtic. Dunne is a quality CB, and his wages maybe high, but would definitely give us 2 very strong CB’s in Colo and him. If Ebondo is coming, then Onuha isn’t worth an exchange, although Johnson or elano would be good to get through!

    Players We need are

    Rb (Ebondo), Lb (Raikalla??), Cb (Dunne??), 2 CM (Johnson?? elano?? M’Bia??) and RM

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  • Graham1982

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #14

    How can you say that Owen has been a bad deal for the Club??

    Ok it hasn’t worked out but unless I am wrong his goals kept us in the premier league last season, the goals he has scored this season mean that we are currently outside the bottom 3.

    Also I am sure from a marketing perspective that he has brought in money.

    I think it has been a good deal even better considering we got 7 million in comp from the FA ?

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  • Prince Bassong

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #15

    We should get someone in return as City do have a lot of players. Of course Onuoha and Johnson are the two main names being bandied about, but Gelson Fernaandes would be good too.

    One or two youngsters wouldn’t be bad either. Two of there better prospects are both CBs, one being Ben Mee and the other Clayton Donaldson, who is a monster of a defender at 6 foot 6.

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  • valle

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #16

    Salute Given, let Zog rot in the reserves.

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  • Joseph

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #17

    I’ll be sorry to see given go but 10 million and a player or two would be a good deal and harper is more than capable of filling in.

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  • Kash

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #18

    I also think that if we got a bid in for Owen, then we should sell him! Martins is nearly fit again, and i’m sure we could try and snare another striker to replace MO! His wages are crippling the club!

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  • Kash

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #19

    I agree on giving Zog a boot, whether it’s out of the club depends on whether we can get players into replace him. Same goes for Owen. If we’ve got ready made replacements for both Owen and Zogs, then let them leave.

    I’d have the hungarian winger in, along with a decent RM and then let Zogs go. Tehn we’d have Jonas and Duff for the LM and 2 new players for RM.

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  • Dragonera

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #20

    “Owens goals last season kept us in the premier league”

    ….HE IS A STRIKER! HE IS SUPPOSED TO SCORE! IT IS NOT A PRIVILAGE FOR US!

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #21

    It seems as if Given will go and if he does i honestly believe we are missing a trick by not including Sturridge in the deal.

    The kids dynamite and come the summer, we will be short a striker, because i dont expect Owen to stay around.

    We wont get Sturridge in the summer and we will need a back up to Oba. Strike whilst the iron is hot…………..

    Remember the Andy Cole deal involving Gillespie, master stroke by Keegan. We would have never have bought Gillespie alone, Fergie said so and never for 1 million.

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  • Dragonera

    Jan 26, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #22

    Entertainers

    I would swap 8million + Sturridge for Owen and Given in the blink of an eye.

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  • BenjiToon

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #23

    The meeting might well be to iron out the terms of his departure…is there something in his contract about a bonus for time-served or similar?

    Or it may be that the “board” (if you can call them that) are haggling with City for the price+player deal they want, and this is just about pushing their price up. A publicity stunt – as in Given’s already agreed to go, but (un)Wise wants it to look like we’re trying to keep him to force their hand a bit.

    Or perhaps its none of these and we really do want to hold on to him…I hope so, although money wise it would be sensible to sell. But I do think Given is Mr Newcastle and without some very, very positive buys following his departure there will be a vaccuum that swallows the morale of the team.

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  • vivadavidkelly

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #24

    Its very short sighted to blame ashley for everything that happens – there is no doubt that Shay is a top drawer keeper, but this deal makes sense at present. recent figures show just how dire our financial situation is and the funding for top outfield players needs to come from somewhere. its become fashionable to just on the hate ashley bandwagon and that is what has hurt the club more than anything else.

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  • Jan Stavik

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #25

    Sell N’Zogbia instead of Given, 6-7m and Lyon will take him. Shaymus is an icon in Newcastle, he should stay. Exchange deals are not so common but anyway I feel that’s what we should look for now.

    Zogbia for Källstrøm I would say, he’s got power and creativity to add to our weak heart of midfield.

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  • Dragonera

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #26

    Jan

    Lyon would never do that deal.

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  • Dragonera

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #27

    The issue with N’Zogbia is the price. I can’t see the board wanting anymore than about 7 or 8million for him, so obviously other teams do not value him as highly and will only look to sign him for around 5million.

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  • bowburnmag

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #28

    BenjiToon – totally agree with that last post.

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  • vivadavidkelly

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #29

    if zog does go, dont expect any more than 3 mill for him

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  • Kash

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #30

    I’d definitely take Sturridge instead of Onuha, and throw in Elano or Johnson too, with maybe a few million to boot. Or Even Sturridge, Elano, Johnson and Dunne in for Given, but that would never happen!

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  • ToonTonic

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #31

    Hey guys,

    We got Colin Calderwood on board now till end of the season.

    Check the jump:

    http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1533116,00.html

    How come this aint been reported..i quite like this bloke.

    regards Given, I want him to stay…Hes the Toon stalwart and to lose him would be awful.

    you say bring in Johnson..Well why? Hes a talented player no doubt..But he has serious issues that are well documented.

    Onhua is half decent but to be honest id rather keep given and sell that gobby frog to someone and use them funds.

    shame as i used to really like The French Feck

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  • pubcat

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #32

    Off-topic… McManus: though it’d be good to get another solid defender, I don’t see that much point in this. We shouldn’t displace Coloccini, because – although he hasn’t performed as well as we’d like yet – he’s an expensive and important player. And we absolutely should not displace Bassong, who looks our best defender in years. Which would leave McManus on the bench, bar injuries. Also, lb is important to us now so I don’t think we should let Jose leave in the other direction.

    On Given, I would be doing all I can to persuade Man City to let a quality mf go to us as part of the deal. Johnson, Elano or another. Or a loan as part of an agreement on Shay, just so long as the loaned player’s heart was totally in it.

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  • ToonTonic

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #33

    LOL ok ignore my post about Colin Calderwood..just noticed it..

    Beat me down Lads an Lasses

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  • magpies1

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #34

    everyone keeps saying about sturridge in a swap deal. Do you honestly believe city would do that? NO hes class and they will want to keep him

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  • Kash

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #35

    @magpies1 – Sturridge is out of contract in the summer, and won’t sign a new deal. He’s after a transfer, which I presume is due to him not seeing any playing time if moneybags city are willing to splash the cash on stars!

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #36

    Fergie said years ago, he would have never have sold Gillespie to us if he didnt want Cole so badly!

    See how much Man Citeh really want Shay, she bairns get nowt.

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  • Tel

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #37

    Michael Owen has been out of sorts for the past few games, I dont think his heart is in it anymore, if it ever was. remember he said he would never come to newcastle the week before he signed. We need a striker with pace (Oba) and a target man to supply the knock ons. If we could get a couple of million for owen I would take it. The risk of course is if Oba gets injured again. carrol wins a few knock ons but owen doesn’t have the pace to capitalise. sure hes good from set pieces and often loses defenders but I would take the gamble. Get rid of him and the duke, between them that almost 200k a week or 10 million a year in wages.
    Shay is an institute at newcastle and we should fight tooth and nail to keep him, even though it would not be the total disaster that some claim as steve harper is an able deputy, if he signs his new deal, and Krul is also top drawer, remember when roeder played him in the UEFA cup a couple of years ago?
    As for Duff anyone who saw him at Blackburn will hope he never plays again, in my opinion he was dismal, although to be fair he did try, just nothing came off. Charlie can go and rot in hell, he is causing a lot of the disharmony inthe team and bringing the dressing room down. Who does he think he is? With only a week to go I am confident we will see some comings and goings, all wont please everyone and others will think they are wise moves.( no pun intended) Lets just get behind the club give them all the support they need and with a twist of good fortune we will see this out. Whilst ashley isnt the most popular he is the current custodian and hopefully if we survive will find a buyer come the summer. The sad thing is if he communicated a bit better there wouldnt be a load of bollocks printed in the papers and the club might just be all pulling in the same direction.

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  • toonarmyuk

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #38

    Cudicini has signed for Spurs, so it looks like they knew that Harper was staying at Toon!!

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  • crazydave

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #39

    Portsmouth has signed 2 midfielders so I cant see them coming back in for Barton

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  • super.trooper

    Jan 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #40

    Given leaving is another nail in the newcastle coffin whilst Ashleys pockets will be bulgeing.

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