Joe Kinnear And Newcastle Now In Dire Straights


Newcastle manager Joe Kinnear has admitted that “it is one thing after another” at the moment in trying to run the Newcastle United Football club.

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The Newcastle Brains Trust – at last night’s game
What do we do now Ollie?

After losing Michael Owen and Joey Barton for apparently six and 10 weeks respectively with injuries sustained in last night’s game with Man City, which Newcastle lost 2-1, we are now in terrible shape.

And that’s just one point in the last 5 league games for Newcastle, who seem to be on a downward spiral to relegation from the Premier League for the first time in their history.

The latest injury to Michael Owen rules him out of any possible international comeback in the near future, if indeed England manager would even have picked him for the squad, which is doubtful.

Now Joe Kinnear has almost everything going against him, as he faces up to being without these top players at a crucial stage in Newcastle’s battle to avoid the drop.

Joe said today:

“It is one thing after another and life is seriously tough at the moment,” “The credit crunch is killing us,”

“Mike has lost £2B quid in his own businesses and shares.”

“He is just about paying the wages but it is not an easy situation.”

“You look at Tottenham paying £16M here and £14M there. I would love to spend money like that but I can’t.”

“You can see why so many people bottled this job.”

We don’t believe for one minute that Mike has lost £2B in the credit crunch, because he was never worth £2B in the first place. When he bought Newcastle his worth was estimated at around £1.6B, and now it’s estimated at around half of that only a couple weeks ago, so Joe is blowing smoke again.

The Newcastle manager now has little room to maneuver in the transfer market either, after revealing the full extent of owner Mike Ashley’s losses during the current financial turmoil.

Make no mistake about it, Newcastle United are in dire straights, and Mike Ashley is finding out that running a football club is not something he can sit back and enjoy – not when the team continues to lose.

We’ve lost 4 of our last 5 league games, and drew the other.

Now what?   Since you got us into this mess Mike – we think this is now your problem to solve.

Over to you Mike.

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102 comments so far

  • rooks

    Jan 29, 2009 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #1

    another example of JK talking out his @rse.
    were doomed!

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  • Purely Belter

    Jan 29, 2009 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #2

    derbyshire is going on loan to olympiakos… why the hell dont we get him.

    credit crunch my butt, ashley had his own ideas from the start with wise..

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  • ronaldeano

    Jan 29, 2009 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #3

    I wonder what will happen on Sunday if (god forbid) the filth turn us over?

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  • Maltese_Magpie

    Jan 29, 2009 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #4

    Been supporting Newcastle for as long as I can remember, and growing up in Malta surrounded by people either supporting ManU, Juve or Milan was no easy feat believe me. Its so sad to see my beloved team in such a shape, really hope we get some signings quick. Veloso and M’bia plus Saviola and Ebondo would be a dream right now- Donadel will be another Luque.

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  • Purely Belter

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #5

    if we dont beat sunderland…. then we are gone and dont deserve to stay up.

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  • vivadavidkelly

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #6

    plain and simple – fail to win on sunday and we are going down. why start with jonas on the bench? he looked fit enough to me. he was still very mobile in the 95th min

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  • rowntree1987

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #7

    I THINK THE ONLY SIGNING WE WILL GET WILL BE A COUPLE OF PANIC BUYS ON MONDAY NITE SAME OLD SHITE AND IF WE SELL GIVEN TODAY I HOPE ITS A PLAYER PLUS CASH DEAL

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  • toonarmyuk

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #8

    I have to say that I thought we were too good to go down, but now with Barton and Owen on the injury list for so long; with Zog and Given out the door soon; and when you take into account the other injuries in the squad, as well as the general lack of talent in those fit, the genuine ONLY way I can see us surviving the drop, is we buy in AT LEAST FIVE players (four plus Lovenkrands).
    The money from Zog and Given will hopefully be there on top of the GBP10m supposedly available from Mike, but with only 4 days left….WHO IS left? And would they even come to us?

    I am so scared for our safety it hurts. I just hope the club have lots of things up their sleeves….

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  • ronaldeano

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #9

    QPR have bid 2m for Michael Jhonson according to SSN

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  • richyg01

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #10

    News today that:
    Fulham have bid £2.5m for Leeds Midfielder Fabian Delph,
    QPR have bid £2m for City Midfielder Michael Johnson,

    Now we all know that Joe is not blessed with loads of cash, but surely these two lads are worth a stab?

    We need squad numbers, Our injury list shows that, other clubs loose a player and have a replacement in every position, we dont, that showed last night when Jonas had to come on for Owen.

    Reports today that City are to get given for only £8.5m??? Why is his value going down each day? I still think he should be valued at atleast the £100m that City were to pay for Buffon.

    Also whats going on with our supposed bids for Ebondo, Donadel, Veloso and Saviola???

    Spurs are going for Santa Cruz at £20m, think we should have a look at Bent!

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  • toonarmyuk

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #11

    And it really riles me that we are now relying on such chumps as Geremi and Smith, who are bleeding this club dry with their wages! Both of them have been touted out, but both turned down moves because they would drop wages!

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  • Toon Sweden77

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #12

    Sign up Ebondo, Saviola, Mbia and Veloso quick!! If Ashley says were bleeding money (witch is not totaly true, were bleeding black and white!) then he should see the financials when were in the championship!!

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  • rooks

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #13

    I spose the only good thing is we hadn’t already sold Given when we got the injuries – we MUST insist on a player (or 2) as part of the deal

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  • Paul P

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #14

    ronaldeano – i hate to say this mate and it breaks my heart but we are going to lose on sunday. I can not see where our next 3 points are going to come from. The team last night was the worst newcastle side I have seen since 1988. That team was relegated into Division 1, this team is going the same direction, unless Fat Ash gets his finger out and pumps some money into the club which it seriously needs. We need some quality brought in. If you dont spend big, you dont get anywhere. Look at the teams at the top and at the bottom. Spurs are on the way up now, liverpool, arsenal, villa, man u, chelsea, man city, everton, these have spent more money than others, and have finished in the top6/top 7 or have won a trophey. Unless we spend and get quality in, it will never happen for a long long time. If we get relegated, we will drop down another division. Just like Forrest, Man City, Leeds did. Howay Cashley, get ya money out big time now, otherwise, f off and take the rest of your cockney mathia with you. Its killing me all this heartache with our club. What have we done to deserve this??

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  • Pons Aelius

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #15

    The writing is on the wall now.

    As Ed says, it’s over to you Mike

    If you want your club to be worth anything like it is now next season, you need to invest in some players – without delay.

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  • ronaldeano

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #16

    Wigan want Saviola now

    We NEED another striker now Owen is injured.

    Who is going to score the goals to keep us up? Carrol?

    Dont think so

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  • ronaldeano

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #17

    Paul p

    Agreed. I cant see many more points with us being in such a mess 🙁

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  • richyg01

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #18

    Starting with Colo in Midfield and Taylor in Defnce summed it all up for me!

    Colo should be left in defence with Bassong, thats our best pairing, Taylor should have been left on the bench and Jonas should have started.

    All in all its down to C’Ashley now, we need some transfer activity and if last night did not highlight, underline and make that obvious I do not know what will.

    PLEASE give us some news TODAY, we need activity NOW!!!!

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  • Chizzy_Toon

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #19

    So Jokes comes out and says that the Credit Crunch has hit Mike Hard!! Sounds like they are getting their reasons in early why we havent bought any players, or wont buy any players.

    Dont mean to be negative, but at the moment i dont really see any positives.

    One thing that made me smile was Jokes interview last night. “Given and Insomnia are out injured”!! my missus turned round and said, “So Given isnt playing because he has insomnia” 🙂

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #20

    The club was been ran into the ground and the fact we leak goals and make such simple mistakes makes us easy to beat and add the fact we dont shoot or score a goal doesnt help.

    Ice and slice anyone?

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  • clinta

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #21

    A link I posted on a previous thread lads:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7856971.stm
    Is an interesting interview with Fat freddy shepard, listening to him at times through the story I almost wished we still had him running the show! Has it really got that bad at the toon since then? well yeah sadly! who would of thought?!

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  • Ericles

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #22

    This whole sorry mess is down to Ashley and Wise – nobody else. Captain Pugwash Kinnear only clouds the issue with his pronouncements. For all his blather you would think he was Moses coming down from the Ashley man-mountain with a hand full of commandments that nobody wants to buy. I hope to hell we are not relying on Smith to score against the mackems now.

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  • RichY

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #23

    anyone want to provide a list of the fixtures we have remaining?

    How many points does any one see us winning?

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  • lesh

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #24

    And what happend to the scandinavian trialists?

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  • Brettoon

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #25

    F*&$ the board…

    Look at Ashley the fat pr1ck

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #26

    More disappointed than ever today…truly gutted.

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  • toonarmyuk

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #27

    ronaldeano – Carroll has got a couple of goals in a few starts. He’s not that bad.

    Clinta – trust me, no matter what happens, we are better off than when we had Fat Fred! If he had still been around, I suspect the club would have goneinto Administration by the end of the 2008/2009 season, perhaps a year later.

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  • clinta

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #28

    Regarding the new injuries lads, we are f**kin cursed as a football club, time and time again, season after season we have massive injury lists which cause us to never have the same 11 on the park for two weeks straight.

    it’s either that or we get in promising (or already) proven talent, and they prove to not be up to there potential or if already proven never player a decent game of football again.

    seriously some of the lads we have at the club would probably be running amok if they had gone elsewhere, i know OBA would be superb anywhere with real service, playing in a good side.

    come to the toon at your own peril potential signings! you’d be mad to, and i don’t think we’ll ever seen many big names in the black and white in the years to come.

    lets just start scouting the lower leagues early like lads.

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  • square

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #29

    I don’t effin care, he made a mistake a fatal mistake of entrusting his director of football over his manager. Idiotic mistake.

    Joe kinnear and newcastle don’t go hand in hand.

    Joe kinnear win or lose he’s getting his wages.

    It’s only newcastle that is in dire straits. No one in their right mind would have appointed him for their clubs. with ashley we have made more steps backwards than forwards

    you lost millions of bucks well you idiot you’re going to lose a lot more. are you having fun ashley.

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  • toonarmyuk

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #30

    The worst thing is that Ashley is probably looking at the reaction since he announced he wasnt selling any more, and realised he will never be accepted back at the club by the majority of fans.

    Now, as a businessman, he is entitled to milk the club for all its worth (i.e. using the Given/Zog transfer cash) to go into his own bank acocunt), and it wouldnt surprise me if he did actually do that, and then just hope we can stay up, so he can sell in the summer.
    Along with a lot of other people, he may be thinking “Newcastle are too good to go down”, but I think he’s in a for a horribly nasty shock if he that is the case and he doesnt re-invest NOW!!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #31

    The more I see that picture of those two sitting there – the more I want to seriously smack them both.

    Some sense into Ashley and Llambiarse oot of toon.

    Thats how I feel and thats so not like me.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #32

    Clinta – trust me, no matter what happens, we are better off than when we had Fat Fred! If he had still been around, I suspect the club would have goneinto Administration by the end of the 2008/2009 season, perhaps a year later.

    BOLLOX

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  • toonarmyuk

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #33

    Clinta, what’s worse, is that JK seems to oblivious that we have a really good youth team, and stubbornly wont give any of them a chance! All the dross like Geremi is left on the pitch to fight a battle they dont give a toss about, while there are hungry young lads champing at the bit in the reserves team who would play their heart out for you. Just ask Roeder!

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  • Shot Bru

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #34

    Rich Y
    MACKEMS h draw
    WBA a draw
    EVERTON h lose
    BOLTON a draw
    MAN U h lose
    HULL a draw
    ARSE h lose
    CHELSEA h lose
    Stoke a draw
    SPURS a lose
    PORT h win
    LIV a lose
    MIDDLES h win
    FUL h win
    AV a lose

    total points = 37

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #35

    Next few days are vital..no signings and we are down…that squad as it is with current injuries is not even fit to play in the championship right now.

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  • Mikeflame

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #36

    why is it my 10year old nephew can text me saying “Mike whys 5 defenders playing when Man Citys defense is dog turd” and JfsoddingK cant see that!! We need a massive summer clearout, pop some of the more senior kids into the first team and start a fresh building around that!

    In 25years of supporting Newcastle ive always been stood chanting my ass off sticking up for Newcastle, the manager, the players etc and now i literally have nothing good to say about them apart from the kids! even then people laugh cos they havent heard of most of them due to our manager…or lack of!

    Im buzzing about Sunderland cos ive missed the last few years getting tickets and ill be standing shouting my ass off but if i dont see 1) the kids getting a chance or 2) new signings playing its going to be my last ticket of the season cos it costs me over £150 a pop with trains and tickets and is it really worth it when 52k fans are getting nothing in return!

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  • ronaldeano

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #37

    That photo of Mike and Lambiarse makes my fcuking skin crawl

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  • Kash

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #38

    @SJT – What part of administration and emulating Leeds would have been better for the club than actually still having a chance to play ourselves out of relegation?

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  • clinta

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #39

    toonarmyuk- true mate freddy was a disaster for us, especially towards the end where we stood financially, don’t really wish it, just emotions and doom and gloom clouding the old judgement i guess mate.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jan 29, 2009 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #40

    Good stats..but I cant see the current squad picking up any wins..Fulham would murder us..pompey will beat us as well and so will bolton.

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