Newcastle Under-18s Face Mighty Man City Tomorrow Night

The impressive Newcastle United Under-18 side travel to holders Manchester City tomorrow night (kick-off 7pm) in the very prestigious FA Youth Cup, to try to get into the quarter finals.


Richard Money – very tough tie for the bairns

Newcastle have so far beaten Oldham Athletic and Queens Park Rangers on their way to the Fifth Round, but Manchester City are one of the top youth sides in the country.

Currently the Eastland’s’ Club are six points clear at the top of their Premier League Youth Table Group C, while Newcastle are second, behind Sunderland, in their Premier League Youth Table Group D.

Manchester City have established a global reputation in recent years for their success at Academy level recently, which is exactly the job given to Richard Money at Newcastle, and since last summer, he’s been doing an excellent job with the Under-18s, and very well with our very young Reserve side.

Newcastle will see the return of Kazenga LuaLua for the trip to Eastlands with Nile Ranger, Brad Inman and captain Ryan Donaldson, who have all been unused subs for the first team this season, also included in the squad.

This will be a very tough game for the lads, but we really hope the lads can progress, to get to the quarter finals of the FA Youth Cup this season.

Newcastle made the semi-finals of the Youth Cup in successive seasons in 2005-2006 and the following season, but were beaten both times.

The last two times we have won it was in 1985 when Paul Gascoigne was in the team (beat Watford 4-1) and in 1962 with both David Craig and Bobby Moncur in the side (beat Wolves 2-1).

Howay The Bairns!!

25 comments so far

  • cashley_out

    Feb 3, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #1

    1st yes

  • Toon_Sydney

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #2

    is this only decent thng goin for toon?

  • WesToon

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #3

    Yea Toon Sydney,it is the only good thing mate 🙁

  • Archie Mag

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #4

    No news on the Denilson loan like? Thought when Arshavin went to Arse he was headed our way?

  • Magpietillidie22

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #5

    Seems that way Toon_Sydney, but lets just hope that the youth teams progress can let the 1st reap the rewards… maybe… one day

  • Magpietillidie22

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #6

    Was the denilson loan a definate thing though? Kinnear has been in journal today saying thats it all done and finished no more till summer…

  • batty

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #7

    To save most of you the bother of reading another of my long-winded diatribes, the answer is yes. Feel free to read on if you wish to know why I think so.

    I would not classify myself as particularly intelligent, so please take what I am about to say on face value, and not as delusional self-adulation, which it certainly isn’t, but:

    I have two degrees, one in applied mathematics, the other in IT (both which could be described as reasonably logical subjects).

    I am a manager in the IT industry (again, quite a logical vocation).

    I am also Newcastle daft.


    My education centred around logic.

    My vocation likewise.

    So why can’t my love of NUFC be logical?

    I have a golf handicap of 1, which is more than decent, so why don’t I just jack the football in and never give it another look?

    Because I’m daft. Pretty much everyone on here, and the 50k that frequent SJP are too. And here’s the problem.

    Ashley knows we are. And he isn’t.

    He’s a hard-nosed, ruthless businessman with no heart. It’s no good protesting inside the ground, it’s no good firing insults in his direction, it is all water of a duck’s back. When he looks at you, all he sees is £££’s. Nothing more. His plan is blindingly obvious.

    Take as much cash out of the club as possible through player sales. Get the minimum players in to keep the club barely afloat, and, here’s the thing, he’s taken a gamble with that. Why? Because he’s a gambler. He throws small fortunes on one spin of the wheel at a casino, and he does the same in business. He knows he cannot get the price sufficient to make a big profit, so instead, he is accepting the price will drop but taking as much out while he can. I have a friend in the capital investment world who has met him and says he’s nothing but a risk-taker. And now he gambles with our club.

    His gamble is all based on us being idiots.

    Before the window opened, Joe had £10M to spend + money from sales.

    He got approximately £12M from sales, mostly on the last day of the window. That means net £22M to spend. He spent £4.5M (The £12M includes RT’s transfer). So what happened to the other £17.5M?

    There never was, or is, any £10M. It’s in his bank. Right now, I’m trying to decide what is worse. Ashley making an £7.5M profit from the window, or the fact that, despite City wanting our keeper and branding £5M as derisory, we took £6M for the best keeper in the premiership in his prime and couldn’t ask for Johnson as part of the deal. Instead, we offer a ridiculous £8M for an unproven player who we know we cannot get (or we would have had as part of a swap deal a la Wigan) to the richest club in the land who spent £18M on a player they could have had at the end of the season for £3.5M due to a release clause (de Jong). It’s incompetant at best, insulting at worst.

    So you will have your evidence over the next few weeks that we are indeed idiots as shown by our attendances, both home and away, all nicely hidden behind phrases like…

    “Club first, everything else second” or
    “Greatest supporters in the land” or, my personal favourite…

    “This club’s bigger than Mike Ashley”.

    It isn’t actually. If he so desired, he could burn it to the ground and put a shopping mall there. Only his greed would prevent him from doing so.

    We’re idiots, pure and simple. For those that doubt, ask yourself this: if we only continue to go because the “lads” (or alternatively, overpaid second-rate heartless millionaires) will only perform with our support, how is it that clubs with poor support, the Bolton’s and Wigan’s of this world, continue to exist in the PL?

    This 12th man rubbish really is just that, rubbish. If you’re like me, you are all desperate not to be mocked for holding out hope that NUFC can rise up again. The club is dead under this man. Force him to sell. How? Don’t attend. Don’t buy merchandise. Don’t drink in Shearers.

    Protesting and vitriol only put off potential buyers. Empty seats will not. Real businessmen, the sort that do due diligence, will study spending statistics and attendance figures and buy the club on that basis, not on whether fans have stayed away in protest of the current asset-stripping champagne-swilling owner.

    If you want to save the club, stay away. If not, join Ashley and gamble with the clubs future.

    Be daft. Be laughed at by the rest of the footballing world. Shield yourself in a banner of self-righteous “best fans” drivel.

    Be an idiot
    ps stardust your dad must ov messed with you as a kid

  • Stardust

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #8

    Batty Hilarious “I have two degrees, one in applied mathematics, the other in IT (both which could be described as reasonably logical subjects).

    I am a manager in the IT industry (again, quite a logical vocation). ”

    You then go on to post the most anti-logical piece I have ever read LOL – Hilarious

  • Stardust

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #9

    By the way I said Anti-logical as it has an agenda behind it not because I meant illogical.

  • zin zimmer

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #10

    god u numpties don’t half delude yourself, football does exist outside the twilight zone that is the ‘north east’, firstly your youth set up is a joke, to even try and compare it to citys is an insult in itself, 27 graduates since its establishment in 1997, 5 england internationals, 9 under 21 internationals, and the entire youth academy represents there country for there respective countries……. this coupled with 8 first team regulars from the academy, and i hasten to add you got a raw deal with bad ass barton lol, and you have the audacity to try and nick michael johnson for a paltry 8 mil, you lot really are deluded. Your youth set up never recovered from the idiot that is keeeeeeeeeeegan, scraping the set up in the early 90s, simply put…………. your club is going nowhere when the best academy graduate you can offer is stephen’ ive been shot’ taylor, and we all know how bad he is.

  • Davies

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #11

    Batty, you may be intelligent and logical, but you have no common sense apparently. Unless your other skills are listed as; fortune teller, mind reader and someone with enough business savvy to run a club (which I presume is not the case), you are simply spouting.

    Do any of you think that running a club is easy?

    Do you think that you could do it?

    Those two questions may well seperate the readership of this site between the deluded, the stupid and the honest.

  • Davies

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #12

    Zin Zimmer, good point. With your amazing academy and all that lovely cash, it’s a wonder you’re not in the top four instead of hovering over the bottom half of the table. Why is that?

  • Magpietillidie22

    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #13

    wow at the rant batty….lol

    Im sure ill be called niave and idiotic among other things but i dont QUITE believe in the doom and gloom or the ashley bashing. There are times i have done but when im not irate about transfers (as i still look back to the days we were after the big names) i think a bit more logically.

    Ok Mike Ashley is a ruthless buisness man, this is fact because to be a successful buisness man as he is (or was depending on which paper you read nowadays) but the man has shown his other side when it comes to Newcastle United. I personally dont believe a ruthless and heartless man would buy the club then sit with, drink with and travel with the supporters if he didnt care. He wouldnt be seen excited by us scoring, playing well or whatever in the stands and dissappointed when things arent going great on the field.

    I think ashley is looking for the best interests of the club. Had freddy been as good a buisnessman we would still be living the high life moneywise after being a top four club for numerous seasons rather than throwing money at unscouted ”big names” only for them to be injured constantly, not bother or just be completely overwhelmed by a league like no other across europe.

    Mike Ashley came here saying he salvaged a sinking ship moneywise – this is true. He said there wouldnt be big money signings for a while as there isnt the money for this noting 10million plus sells every window (or season). He has brought in some great signings, two of which were outstanding against sunderland (Gutierrez and bassong) He said he wanted to build the club for the future by bringing in very good youngsters trying to make the club stable and keeping it, unlike 80% of the premier league, out of debt.

    Until this season where Arsenal have slipped out of the top four they were obviously and still are in my opinion one of the greatest teams in europe and play the best football. Arsenal football club run just the way Mike is trying to run ours. Yes they buy the occassionl big signing (such as arshavin) but they only do this because of the money they have generated from sells of low bought world class youngsters in the future. Personally this is exactly how id like our club run because one day the clubs in debt will come unstuck, the super rich owners will leave and these clubs will either fall drastically or die horrible, crushing deaths.

    As for success, im like every other newcastle fan, i want us AT LEAST back to the bobby robson days of success, top four and exciting football as well as a trophy. Not too much to ask for i dont think! I believe mike is the owner to get us there (eventually) but i dont think kinnear is the manager. Mike needs to get rid of wise and llybias because they are badly advising him, and he needs to work soley with his manager of that time and some world class scouts and negotiators.

    By the way saying that fans are daft to follow their club through thick and thin is to me very daft. I will forever support this club and unless its threatened by knocking the stadium down and building a mall (as you think is possible) or that i truly believe we are being badly run i wont protest. Even then i will be screaming at top of my lungs for my team!

  • zin zimmer

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #14

    watch and learn my retarded friend, the pieces of the jigsaw are coming along nicely……. in fact if you profess to know anything about football, you will undoubtedly know hughes teams finish considerably stronger in the second half of seasons….backed by stats r kid, do worry about where you finish because signing nolan isn’t gonna save you from a undoubted relegation battle, and this year, and i’m not for one minute saying its going to be you, a perceived big club will fall, you need to get out of the rut asap, because my OPINION is that your one of 7 who could go with west brom, blackburn, stoke, boro, sunderland, hull…. with spurs an outside bet.

  • Stardust

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #15

    Magpietillidie22 – bravo

  • Stardust

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #16

    zin zimmer – i appreciate you unfulfilled in life but you have all the money and will gain some success in the years to come, personally I wouldnt swap Arsenal for you and I am happy we are progressing the Arsenal way.

    Not sure what you gain out of boasting, probably comes from some personal insecurity but hey ho – if it gets you off crack on.

  • Magpietillidie22

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #17

    Stardust – thanks, bit of a rant but hey lol

  • Stardust

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #18

    A lot of us see it that way fella – we just have to hold the line and fight the kneejerkers!

  • RyanToon

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #19

    BATTY, that piece, i put on here last night and i 100% agree with it!

  • Kebabacus

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #20

    Post 8 and post 13 seem to sum up the two types of Toon supporter at the moment.

    Have to say, 13 is a lot more convincing.

  • Magpietillidie22

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #21

    Kebabacus – thanks. Its been my veiw throughout tbh, im glad theres more that think like me, kinda felt in a minority at times lol

  • Tom_Toon

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #22


  • Kebabacus

    Feb 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #23

    I know what you mean. I’ve come to the conclusion that the angry pro-protest/boycott types just make more noise (makes sense really if you think about it).

    I’m all for big money signings but let’s make sure A) They are actually worth the money and the wages and B) that we can afford them in the first place.

    I think there are a lot of Toon fans out there fed up with short-term-ism.

  • Magpietillidie22

    Feb 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #24

    Exactly. I would love to see us going out and spending big money too but only on the right players. What we need is a better scouting network that when a player gets on the radar they are THROUGHLY scouted not just pop in on a one or two games.

    The three signings we have made are quailty signings i think, i mean listening to the three of them and having seen them all play they are hungry players and all WANT to play for our club. Couldn’t ask for more than that. When the players say its a huge step up in their career you know their up for it.

    Ashley said a while ago he wants younger and hungrier players in the black and white and i think the same

  • repo

    Feb 3, 2009 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #25

    Although there’s no official confirmation of his signing, the Newcastle squad for the FA Youth Cup at Manchester City on Wednesday includes one new face:
    Haris Vu?ki? (pictured).

    We mentioned on January 16th that the official website of Slovenian First Division side NK Domzale were reporting
    the transfer of 16 year-old midfielder Vu?ki? to United


    so he’s signed..


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