Andy Carroll Contract Talks Not Going Well


The Sunday Sun is reporting this morning that contract talks with Andy Carroll have broken down.

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Andy Carroll – contract talks with 20 year old broke down last week

Andy, who was born in Gateshead and has come through the Newcastle Academy ranks, is said to be prepared to move on at the end of the season.

His current contract still has over two years to run, and apparently Newcastle have already put a £2M price tag on the lad – and for a young player of his abilities that’s far too low.

But we have a hard time believing too much of this Sunday Sun story, to be honest.

However, Newcastle should give the lad an improved contract right now, since he’s shown he can be a first teamer, and a regular as early as next season potentially.

They report that Andy was left bitterly disappointed by the terms of the deal offered to him by the Newcastle hierarchy.

There’s no doubt that Andy’s recent form, when he has been in the side because of injuries to Owen, Martins and Viduka, was very promising, and he’s looked the part in the Newcastle side, even though he’s just 20 years old.

He’s already scored two very important goals for the side.

But it could well be that other clubs have already talked him up, and he may already know what he could get at other clubs, and it’s probably a lot more than Newcastle are offering.

The Sunday Sun is saying that Carroll’s proposed wages would have risen to barely £10K a week, from a starting point well below that level, by the time he entered the 5th year of the proposed deal.

That is only a small fraction of the money already earned by fellow striker Xisco, and Carroll is preferred to the Spaniard, but it’s hard to believe the wages offered to Andrew are that low.

We think that far too much is being made of this, and it’s a good test for the Newcastle club, because bringing youngsters through the club is the way they have to go, and especially local lads.

So they had better pay them what they’re worth, and certainly it would be stupid not to keep Andy happy at the Newcastle club.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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58 comments so far

  • valle

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #1

    Sell him then…

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  • Matt

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #2

    The sunday sun reports an awful lot of rubbish.

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  • valle

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #3

    It is?… Well hopefully, since that manager they are linking us with would be an insane appointment… But in any case, a young squad player such as Carroll should not get more than 10k and just because other players are on inflated wages, it dosnt mean that we should continue that unfortunate habbit.

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  • AngerOfTheNorth

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #4

    Matt’s right, that paper’s a rag.

    Just in case though, I’m pretty sure they’ll come to a decent arrangement. Let’s be honest, they’re going to start low – why not, he’s got another two years left on his contract. They’ll increase their offer until both parties are happy.

    I’m not fully convinced he’s a top striker in the making, but he’s certainly more promising than Shola (who really must be sold this summer).

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #5

    Dont believe that for a second. Just bill shute from the tabloids. Big Caroll has plenty to offer imo. I think he should be picked before Ameobi. He’s young and hungary, wears the shirt with pride.

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #6

    I would have sold him in the summer and all being well before the Jan’ window opened, would have sold him then.

    However he has shown that he does have ability and at least should be given another contract at the club.
    He needs to get involved a bit more in games for my liking, but is showing he is just as good as Shola!

    It seems ironic that when we are scouring the world looking for untapped foriegn talent, that we are prepared to write off local talent for the sake of small change in football terms!

    I’d be more inclined to sell Shola than Carroll these days!

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  • Zangwill_Ho

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #7

    If he said this rubbish thing, sell him then!
    Football is play by heart, no heart. Sell him.

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  • Prince Bassong

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #8

    He’s got 2 years left anyway so it’s far more sensible to wiat until the summer and see where he is in the squad before deciding how much he should receive.

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #9

    Come the summer, i expect an exodus of strikers:

    Outgoing:

    Viduka
    Owen
    Xsico

    prehaps even Smith and Shola.

    Leaving us :
    Martins
    Carroll

    to that i would add another dynamic striker in the mould of Martins / Owen (Missed the boat with Sturridge at Citeh)

    Also someone for Martins to play with a tall standup striker like Derdiyok..

    Martins / Sturridge
    Derdioyk / Carroll

    I’d be happy with that

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  • Jan Stavik

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #10

    He’s not that good anyway, if we’re trying to get up to 5-7 place Carroll can’t lead the line, he’s simply not good enough for a team which will be looking to challenge the top 5.

    Next season we’ll have to bring in a couple of attackers anyway, Owen will for sure leave and Viduka should retire.

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  • ginkoh

    Feb 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #11

    If he’s Newcastle man but play for Newcastle for just money, It’s ok to let him go. But if not it’s no problem to offer him more because he’s squad player now not youngster anymore.

    I think wage he deserved is around 15-20k

    10 k is lower than expect but though we offload some of space waster in summer. It’s not problem so much to give him more wage.

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  • valle

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #12

    The Real Entertainers… Dont forget Løvenkrands, i would certainly like him to stay for one.

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  • Greg B

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #13

    ‘barely £10K a week’

    hmmmm yes, barely………….

    These footballers should live in the ‘real’ world for a week or two and see how the other half live, 10 grand a week for hoofing a football….

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  • The Real Entertainers

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #14

    Valle

    very true mate.

    I think i’m right in saying your a fellow Scandanvian, 🙂

    Lovenkrands looked very good yesterday.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #15

    Hope the talks remain this way…he has about as much class as tesco lager..a chancer at best…just wish Shola’s deal had broken down as well.

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  • valle

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #16

    Carroll should be seen as a squad player?… Ok, but he is still our acedemy product, and if we pay players like him 20k a week, then our first teamers should get 60k+?… How on earth are we ever gonna cut our wage bill if that trend continues?

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  • Dingo†®

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #17

    Just for poops and giggles I have uploaded a video of my mate getting hit by the police after the mackem match in Newcastle…….. Its my first film that I made ever so rate it but be nice!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2cIDXmNYpQ

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  • ObaMartins

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #18

    valle dont be so stupid “sell Carol” he has proven he can cut it in the premier and is a young lad so yes we should give him a deal he is happy with as replacing him will cost MANY MORE MILLIONS….You dont get anywhere by selling your best players.

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  • ObaMartins

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #19

    Wage bill will be cut at the end of the season, Owen,Viduka, Smith, Geremi casapa and Co will all be gone

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  • Shiftay

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #20

    i find it quite ironic that we are referring to 10k a week a “poor” wage…

    meh, what’s football coming too!

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  • Greg P

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #21

    Ed – are you watching the same boy? As FFS said once “I’d carry him for £2m”.
    He might do a job in the Championship, but is not a player who should be near our first team. He’s a Kinnear type of player, but I’d be more concerned about developing Lua Lua and Baheng and clear out the over paid dross like Ameobi and Carroll.

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  • valle

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #22

    ObaMartins… Stupid would be to give into his demands… now first of all, im not local, so i dont know the paper and i hear it shouldnt be taken too serious… But, if its correct then we need to move on from the times when even our squad players were on insane wages… We are fighting relegation with a team that earns more than a few of the teams in the top 7… Carroll has in no way deserved to get more than 10k a week, so if that aint good enough, then sell him.

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  • ObaMartins

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #23

    valle as i said you get Nowhere getting rid of your best young players… i rate carol better than Ameobi and carol will also put himself about.

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  • BenjiToon

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #24

    Don’t let Carroll go – give him at least a couple of years. But I still don’t buy this story from the SS.

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  • valle

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #25

    ObaMartins… Who on earth has said that Carroll is the best of our young players?, i certainly dont hope so!!!… If he accept the contract, then fine, i would take him as a squad player alongside Oba, Løven and a new Powerhouse forward… but if he wants more than 10k a week, he simply aint worth it and we would be better off with the 2 mill.

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  • ObaMartins

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #26

    valle >>> Carroll’s proposed wages would have risen to barely £10,000-a-week, from a starting point well below that level, by the time he entered the fifth year of the proposed deal. <<<£10,000 a week in 5 years time…

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  • ObaMartins

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #27

    valle try to read the articles before jumping in head first…Who is better than Carol out of the Young Players ??

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  • Bill F

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #28

    I see we are rubbishing our players again, Carroll today, Shola yesterday. Just what do people want from our players. I don’t blame Carroll from trying to get as much as he can from a new deal, its called negotiation.
    As for Shola I saw a lot of adverse and derogatory comments about him yesterday. ffks what do you want, he was instrumental in our two first goals, nearly scored another and got himself injured in the process (bloo*y good try imo) and whilst not winning too many of the long ball headers. Caused enough of a nuisance make life difficult for the WB defence. A lot of their poor defending may have been down to this? I reckon he earned his keep yesterday and should be getting pats on the back not shti slinging.

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  • LooneyToon

    Feb 8, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #29

    Neil Farrington at the Sunday Sun is a Sunderland supporter and he always spouts sh1te about the toon…..

    pich of salt on all that….

    If he doesnt wanna stay then toodle pips….lets see what his coin is like playing in the championship….

    lads got potential but is pretty raw and has some rough edges that need ironing out….

    probably just pap though all this contact bollox….

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  • valle

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #30

    ObaMartins // Feb 8, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    valle try to read the articles before jumping in head first…Who is better than Carol out of the Young Players ??

    I have jumped in head first and didnt read the article?

    32 valle // Feb 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM

    Carroll ready to move on because he is unhappy with his contract offer… Its a 5 year deal ending on 10k a week but starting somewhere below that (4k a week?)… If thats the case we should let him go, the days of inflated wages should be long gone and he has played a few games and suddenly he wants 20k a week?… I would kill for just 4k a week doing what he does!!!

    From The Løvenkrands post

    Listen, we dont agree on Carroll, its that simple, it has nothing to do with me being stupid or not reading the articles, and i dont really care to discuss on this level, so just let it be… As regards to youngsters being better than Carroll… Well, we cant know yet, since most of them hasnt been tried, but to repeat myself i certainly HOPE they will be.

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  • valle

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #31

    Bill F… Well, clearly we have rubbish players, being in the position we are in… But the people who are slating Carroll on this post are doing so on the background of him being “greedy” for more money… Most of us would jump with joy if we have the chance to earn lets just say 4k a week as 20 year olds doing nothing but training and playing football.

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  • Tom

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #32

    Wouldn’t be all that upset if he left frankly. Don’t really think he is anything special.

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  • craig s chisholm

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #33

    valle – you are nuts, 4k a week is an inslult. give the guy 20k a week now end of.

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  • Little Willie

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #34

    This is just a problem from over paying players in the past, a young lad like Carroll wouldn’t get more than £10k anywhere else so why should we give it him here?

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  • joonzy

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #35

    There are several young players bettet than carroll. Lua Lua, Ranger, Danquah and Godsmark all are far better prospects, but as they aren’t 6 foot 6 JFK isn’t interested.

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  • Little Willie

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #36

    Only LuaLua is better than Carroll out of that list, Ranger will be when he fills out his frame a bit but the other 2 won’t ever be as good as him.

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  • Wigaz

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #37

    To be fair 2 seinor goals doesn’t give you the right to start demanding anything! how long has been potential for? If he spits it then flog him. I hope we have brucey boy in the summer anyway & who know’s new striker? Our squad does need new blood to it all over the pitch really. Only players i think worth a stay is Harper Beye Bassong Nolan Taylor Oba guthrie barton & maybe jonas? He still cant cros for shite for me so i’d be inclined to replace with winger who can& buy Ashton up top to convert the cross’s.

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  • Bill F

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #38

    Valle, I take your point, but we aren’t premier league footballers. We all know their wages are OTT but given the potential catastrophic nature of a bad injury and shortened career can you blame them for getting as much as they can. it’s up to management to negotiate a mutual agreement. Given the nature of MA and co. I think players have to push things as far as they are able.
    Incidently for anyone who hasn’t the talent to be a professional footballer and is looking fro a lucrative career they might consider being a solicitor. Mine can earn over £1000 a day!!

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  • Bill F

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #39

    That might read that I employ solicitors, I don’t. I’m talking about the lady who acts for me. (Very, very occaisionally!!) 🙂

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  • joonzy

    Feb 8, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #40

    Little Willie ya talkin out ya hole. Ever watched them? If you think that Lua Lua is better then you must rate the others the same as they are all performing very well in the same team. I’ve watched them all play many times this season and they are all on a par with each other. It seems to me that you are only committing Lua Lua to his level, strangely he is the only one to get a taste of first team action. Surprise surprise.

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