Newcastle Just 7 Points From 7th Place


In this crazy Premier League season, there are still only 9 points separating the bottom 11 clubs in the league.

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Nolan – could make big difference to Newcastle this season

So lots of clubs this season are threatened by relegation, including Newcastle.

But on the other hand a good run-in to the league from Newcastle through the end of the season could see us finish higher than last years 12th finish.

In fact we are just 7 points behind Wigan Athletic rigth now, who are in 7th place.

At this stage of the season last year, after 25 games, Kevin Keegan had just managed his 4th game in charge, against Middlesbrough (1-1) at St. James Park and the team was on 28 points from their first 25 games, with a goal difference of -15.

Today we have 27 points from our first 25 games, with a goal difference of -9.

But in the following 5 league games last year we managed just one point, against Birmingham away, and so this season we have a good chance to do better than we managed last year, when we finished in 12th place in the league.

After the Birmingham game, where Kevin tried his successful 4-3-3 formation for the first time, we had just 29 points from 30 games, and were in 14th place in the league with a goal difference of -26.  🙁

To do better than that this season we’ll have to pick up 4 points in our next 5 league games.  Indeed, it would be great to finish at least in the upper half of the league table for a change this year.

Not really great, but at least it would be an improvement over what we’ve done recently – which is not much at all.

If we can do that, we need to press on in the summer, and make changes to the squad by bringing in some good players, and we have a good idea who they could be, after the January window.

And of course we must retain the very good core of players we have built up over these last 7 months.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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54 comments so far

  • Purely Belter

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #1

    it is the closest season that i can remember…

    im happy to see your optomistic view ed

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  • Bill F

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #2

    Yes Ed and if we win all of our remaining games we could end up in the top four!! I for one would be over the moon if we got 7 points from our next 5 games although I am optimistic that we can get above Wigan, Fulham and Hull by the end of the season.

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  • beyethegreat

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #3

    overly optomistic for me ill be happy to survive especially since our next 4 home games are everton man u arsenal and chelsea

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  • beyethegreat

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #4

    what has happend to llambias’ q and a

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  • Pons Aelius

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #5

    I’d agree that so far this is one of the closest Premiership seasons ever. Man Utd are being closely followed in the title race and it’s anyone’s bet who goes down.

    I’d love a team like Villa to pip L’pool and Chelsea to 2nd place!

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  • Toon_Sydney

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #6

    bill f- hull is only 2 points behind us and in bad form
    [b]beyethegreat[/b]- nufc is full of it llambias isnt gonna talk up

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #7

    7 pts off 7th place.

    4 points off 3 bottom.

    WBA will be the only team we beat in a long time. Brace yourselves for a rough ride ahead.

    By the way, i’ve just been defending Milner on another thread.

    These are Jonas’ and Milners stats this season;

    Jonas 2 assists 0 goals
    The last assist was on 7th Dec against the mighty Stoke and he set up M.Owen.
    The other one was against Villa on 6th Nov., setting up Martins.

    Milner has 5 assists and 4 goals!!

    All stats can be obtained from ESPN football.

    Stop bigging up Jonas into some super star which he isn’t. I think he sits too deep creating more of a hinderance for the defence as they have no outlet.
    He needs to play in the final third instead of his own half.

    I know i’ll get some stick for this but,

    You’ve got to love the truth being told.

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  • Davies

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #8

    Nice positive slant. We may be 7 points away from 7th, but we are only five points above West Brom. I’d say Boro, Pompey and West Brom will be heading to the Championship based on recent form.

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  • Pons Aelius

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #9

    Troy – Agreed – Milner should never have been sold.

    I was gutted when he left

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  • batty

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #10

    Troy Stavers i for 1 think getting rid ov milner was a big mistake m8

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  • apanzhafran

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #11

    Troy Stevens,
    I agreed that somehow Milner perform better than Jonas this season but stats alone dont prove a player doesnt it? football is a team game, if van der sar played between the post for us i dont think he hold the records now?? Villa is in a good form and have a good quality striker all season long and we only have bambi as our recognized striker, how is that fair? and its his first season in the EPL and he adapted well, so instead of criticising and following stats better look in a bigger better frame, plus most of milner goals was UNINTENTATIONAL (deflection, falling off and headed in) think about it, i think both are great players, just that jonas is better at defending compared to milner and his better in cutting in, both need to fix their crosses

    stats alone is not fair way to determine a player because it needs to be supported by a good team, which currently we are not

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  • apanzhafran

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #12

    and selling milner was a mistake, i love that lads, he and jonas could be one of our better midfielder pairing, duffy always runs like a headless chicken and milner is one for the future

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  • RyanToon

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #13

    we will finish 11th – 14th imo

    p.s batty, very disapointed in you for siding wit a spud

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  • Johno Toon

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #14

    I can realisticly see is picking up 20 points between now and the end of the season, dunno if it will be enough to get us top 10 but it should be enough to keep us well above the drop zone

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  • Mikeflame

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #15

    Difference is Jonas is brand new to the league!! Plus Milner is playing for a top 4 team who are full of confidence and on fire! You can tell Jonas aint fully up to the pace of the league yet, same with Collo! If him and Enrique get a good run in together in the last few games you’ll see a difference!

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  • bennytoon

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #16

    ryantoon- made a bit of a fool of yourself over the weekend from the looks of it. Not a good week for you was it.

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  • RyanToon

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #17

    bennytoon, if you agree with liars, yes i made a ”fool” of myself, as you put it

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  • clinta

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #18

    yeah well…. how many times have we had this little conversation in the past few seasons hey??

    Seems to be the topic everytime we get a win, no matter how fluky, which I guess isn’t all that often afterall.

    Europe next season than is it?

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  • Bill F

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #19

    Toon Sydney, you mean two points above us and in bad form. Although they got a good point at the weekend and could easily have won the game so finishing above them would be good.

    I expect Stoke and West Brom plus one other (not us) to be in the mix.

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  • batty

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #20

    RYAN grow up your aways trying to get people argueing

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  • RyanToon

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #21

    batty grow up your always trying to get people argueing

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  • Micky Toon

    Feb 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #22

    Oh joy another day of benny the spurs fan arguing with Ryan. Pack it in lads. If you want to spoil this blog and drive the decent posters away then keep going. I realise this is probably something benny the spurs fan wants, but he needs someone to play with, so just ignore the idiot.

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  • Bill F

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #23

    I see that Xisco, Smith and Cacapa are getting a run out in the reserves tonight. So are we fielding a weaker than normal team? 😉

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  • RyanToon

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #24

    mickytoon i will but it annoys me when other so called toon fans like batty suck up to him

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  • craig s chisholm

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #25

    i have said for ages that milner is way above jonas in skill and contribution. of course you get the usual knobs saying i am talkign crap. i like jonas but we have to face facts, he is just an argentinian version of robbie savage but without the killer shot. full of energy and heart, not alot of talent.

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  • Bill F

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #26

    C’mon Micky Toon, the poor lad needs something to fill his sad life. He’s not really hurting anyone is he.

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  • coyote

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #27

    the journal are saying they’ll drip feed us the quotes from the club from tomorrow(I was expecting answers not quotes)
    I’m sure the official lies will make interesting reading
    I know its only 7 points off 7th but with our next few fixtures I can’t see where we are going to pick up 1 point never mind 7
    come end of season I’ll be happy if we finish 5 points above 3rd bottom team at least then we’ll be safe and hopefully start building for next season

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  • cagneuk

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #28

    my points prediction.
    everton 1pt
    bolton 3pts
    man u 0pt
    hull 1pt
    aresnal 0pt
    chelsea 1pt
    stoke 3pt
    spurs 3pt
    pompey 3pt
    liverpool 0pt
    boro 3pt
    fulham 1pt
    villa 0pt
    that would take us to 46 thay would suit me nicely this season.

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  • craig s chisholm

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #29

    troy stavers, i think that of course we are close to relegation over 7th spot but i think we will do everton or at least take a point. everton has very little goals in them, if we can sort out our defence and have martins back then i think we could do it. if we can go and get something out of manure and chelski AWAY then we can do it again at home, esp now the team is better and has been stabilized somewhat over the selling of zogs and given. i think morale is on the up and i think we might just get the odd unexpected good result. i think the three new guys will make a massive difference to us nad all are quality.

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  • Micky Toon

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #30

    Oh, come on craig s chisholm, Jonas is no where near as good as Robbie Savage. 😉

    Seriously Jonas is miles better than Savage and I really don’t see why he comes in for so much stick. He does a hell of a lot of work on the pitch.
    ALso, where has all the love for Milner suddenly come from? When he was one of ours he wasn’t fit to wear the shirt, now he’s suddenly the best player in the PL? (slight exaggeration I know.)
    Some fans seem to be over critical of our players and let the foibles of other teams players go without comment. Milner is still the same head down, run into the corner player he was with us, he hasn’t changed one bit.

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #31

    @apanzhafran & other jonas worshippers

    I don’t enjoy calling the lad cos he wears the colours with pride, it is only when I hear fans say he is outstanding and is our most dangerous player.

    How can you be when you don’t shoot or cross. He literally can’t get the ball past the first man.

    Not to consider stats in terms of assists and goals verges on the ludicrous. That is what his job is. He isn’t producing in terms of goals or assists.

    Some have said it’s his first season in the EPL. He played 108 times in the La Liga, a considerably less competitive league and he scored 8 times! He was noted in Spain for the same criticisms i am pointing out.

    He sits too deep. When the defence is looking for an outlet, ie on the wing pushed in an advanced position, typical of where Milner plays, he isn’t there.

    Stop mistaking his work rate for skill. Wake up and look at the facts. He may be more suited to being a wing back but at this moment in time, ive seen nothing to suggest he’s an effective winger.

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  • Bill F

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #32

    Incidently and a bit off thread, but if Xisco ever got a run in the side I reckon a Village People song would be a good theme tune for him.

    X-I-S-C-O, lets hear if for X-I-S-C-O. Be great to see 50,000 fans doing it on the terraces. 🙂

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #33

    @craig chisholm

    Good comparison – Argentina’s answer to Robbie Savage.

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #34

    @Micky Toon

    I’m certainly not saying Milner was a great winger. He did have his faults which you mention. My point is, he is more effective than Jonas as a winger.

    You can’t argue with facts. Jonas is so over rated for me.

    By the way Micky, you never got round to answering my question the other week. Are you from Benwell and spend your time in a camp, fighting with the Scotchy mad dogs?

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  • Bill F

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #35

    Troy, I can’t see why you are so anti Jonas although I appreciate you are not totally dissing him. Thing is and I have said this before, he would have a much better end product if the ref gave him a bit more protection. I doubt if there is a player who gets fouled as much as he does.

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  • batty

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #36

    RYAN do you get picked on by a spurs fan at school or sumit you seem facinated by bennytoon

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  • Whumpie

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #37

    Ed – like the optimism. And I think it’s realistic, too. Like it or not, we have increased our strength in depth during January – although perhaps while still leaving some gaping holes.

    I think top half is a realistic target. To be honest, just staying up with do us just fine – but top half and ending strongly is what will get the better players to sign for us in the summer.

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  • Troy Stavers

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #38

    @Bill F

    Mind hes no angel himself.

    Just been banned for 5 yellows.

    By the way, you’re right, i’m not totally dissing him. I believe his attitude is first class and he does have great defensive qualities. I just wish he would leave that down to the defenders sometimes and play further up field.

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  • Waldo P. Barnstormer

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #39

    can see us getting about 14 points from 39 remaining giving us 41 and just say surviving.

    Starting with a defeat against Everton because of the damn protest.

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  • craig s chisholm

    Feb 9, 2009 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #40

    i am not anti jonas, i love the guys work rate and crunchign tackles, i think he should be a wing back instead, get lovenkrands and duff on the wings with carroll and martins up front. owen and martins when fit. jonas can not cross or score a goal, its sad but true. i do like him though, good squad player and full of heart.

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