Glenn Roeder Gives Good Advice To Joe Kinnear

Former Newcastle boss Glenn Roeder, who battled his way back to successful top management following his brain surgery six years ago, while he was at West Ham, has some sage advice for current Newcastle manager Joe Kinnear today.


Glen Roeder – with Lee Clark at Norwich

Glenn Roeder, who managed Newcastle from February 2006 until May, 2007, said today:

“Football is the greatest game in the world but it is not greater than life itself,”

“Joe and his family have a very big decision to make and they must be totally sure about it. Joe will have to listen to the surgeons, to his family, to the club and to himself.”

“A lot of water will flow under the bridge before a decision is made and there is also a responsibility on Newcastle Football Club.”

“The only thing which matters now is that his operation proves to be a success and he has many more years ahead of him.”

“I got very close to Gerard Houllier, who had an 11-hour heart operation in 2001 when he was manager of Liverpool. I met the surgeon who saved his life, who was a real superstar.”

“He told Gerard that for every hour you are under the anaesthetic, you need to give your body a month to recover.”

“Gerard admitted he came back too quickly and did too much in his first 12 months back, and I hope Joe heeds that advice because he will have been in surgery for several hours.”

Roeder said that Kinnear’s illness brought back the terrible memory of the former Scotland and Celtic manager Jock Stein, who died from a heart attack at the end of a World Cup qualifying game against Wales in September of 1985, at Ninian Park.

Roeder said:

“The tragedy of Jock Stein will never, ever leave me.”

“I was watching the match on television that night along with millions of others, and he just fell to one side.”

Joe Kinnear, 62, also had a heart attack 10 years ago while manager of Wimbledon, and we’re a little surprised that Joe has not taken better care of himself since then.

One thing that didn’t look good is that he was carrying too much weight for a person who had already had one heart attack, and that necessarily put more strain on the coronary system.

He should have also been checking his cholesterol levels, triglycerides and blood pressure regularly, which doesn’t seem to have been the case. Of course he can do that now, and he should, with the help of the Newcastle United medical staff.

Joe took over at St James’ Park in late September in what is one of the most pressurized jobs in English football, and Joe was taken ill before Newcastle’s match at West Brom last weekend.

Roeder continued:

“Every person views pressure in a different way. I am a fortunate person because I genuinely do not feel pressurized whether things are going well or not.”

“Football is my life – I have known nothing else since the age of 16 and it is my comfort zone.”

“I was calm as a player and I am calm as a manager, but you don’t know what it does to other people, especially when they have a history of heart trouble.”

“You have to give Joe credit for getting back into such a high pressure job when he has had heart problems before.”

“I just hope the operation works for him and then he and his family have to make a decision on whether football management is safe for him to take part in.”

“I wish him all the best.”

The best thing Joe can do is not come back to the job too early, and then ensure that all his vital signs related to his heart are checked regularly, and that he loses some weight and ensures he gets plenty of exercise in the future.

If he does all that he should be AOK – to user Joe’s own words.

Comments welcome.

60 comments so far

  • Toon_Ksk (Huh? u mean David Craig is real?)

    Feb 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #1

    Hate to see anybody passes away due to a game of football. There is plenty of pressure in the modern game, and I feel that JK is no longer suited and physically fit enough to manage a Premier League side, especially a side fighting relegation. For the sake of his health and his life, I wish that he can consider taking on a least stressful job which at least allow him to lengthen his lifespan.

  • ronaldeano

    Feb 15, 2009 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #2

    Roeders heed looks huge on that photo!

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #3


    i agree but it will be up to joe


    if u think thats big wait till u see bruce’s head

  • ronaldeano

    Feb 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #4


    A snipers dream! 🙂

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #6

    lol ronaldeano

  • Rodzilla

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #7

    I say Richard Keys would beat them all in a ‘Massive Heed’ contest

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #8


    peter reed didnt just have a monkeys heed but a massive heed aswell

    what about allardyce(both physically and metaphorically)

  • Rodzilla

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #9

    yep BTG, Allardyce is a good shout, and his dual heed expansion factors definately push him up the macrocephaly table. I’d argue that his heed circumference is relatively proportionate to his body size though.

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #10


    gd point

    i cant atgue with that

  • Jan Stavik

    Feb 15, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #11

    Sign Sven up asap, I’m happy to give Kinnear 1m as long as he steps down.

  • workyticket

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #12

    Joe’s a football addict, just like Sir Bobby. They’ll have to lock him in a cage to stop him coming back too soon.

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #13

    managers i dont want


  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #14


    shearer can be taken off the list

  • Craig Chester

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #16

    Love the discussion about head sizes – my vote goes to steve bruce, he really does have a big fat heed!

    I say we either bring an up and comer in now that can “work along side” joe when he gets back (and then when things work out new guy can just keep the job on his own) or we wait till joe gets better and go with someone more established (such as the aforementioned big fat heed)

    PS. nobody go to the rally its about the only thing that can make our off-field credability and our on-field chances any worse at this stage. NUSC DOESNT SPEAK FOR ME!

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #17


    i agree anout the nusc though it isnt a rally against ashley its a rally to raise awareness of the nusc

    my dream manager is martinez but i worry about our fans

    inevatabily martinez will go through a rough patch and the fans will get on his back and he will there fore get the sack and we will be ridiculled in the press for ruining his career

    other than that he would be my choice he plays good football and has done an amazing job with swansea

  • Toronto_Toon

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #18

    I’ve said it on this forum before – Newcastle need to be looking for another manager now. JK cannot come back from this in 2 months, and if we get a few bad results, we’ll be in terrible trouble.

    I would gladly see Martinez or Shearer.

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #19


    that is a decision jfk will have to make

    hes been offered a longterm contract now is the time to accept or reject though he shouldnt be rushed to a decision he should make the decision soon as possable

  • RyanToon

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #20

    CAHILL AND HIBBERT both OUT of our game, theve both got there 5th yellow card today, GET IN!

  • workyticket

    Feb 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #21

    beyethegreat // Feb 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM

    “inevatabily martinez will go through a rough patch and the fans will get on his back and he will there fore get the sack and we will be ridiculled in the press for ruining his career”

    That’s a sad indictment of Newcastle supporters Beye. Who WOULD get a chance?

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #22


    but you know im right

    who would get a chance?


  • Rodzilla

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #23

    Well spotted RT! Nice one.

    No Cahill will definately be a bonus. Lets hope Arteta gets a red as well eh.

  • Rodzilla

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #24

    Actually Ryan, Joleon Lescott, Phil Neville and Mikel Arteta are all one yellow away from bans also.

    Come arn ref!

  • ronaldeano

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #25

    Remember last year when the Liverpool fans were chanting, “big Sam, he’s got a big fat head!!!” at sjp?

    Hahaha! classic 🙂

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #26


    whos reffing

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #27
  • ronaldeano

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #28

    beyethegreat, LOL!!! Class 🙂

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #29

    thanks ronaldeano

  • ronaldeano

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #30
  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #31

    ronaldeano lol

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #32
  • Rodzilla

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #34

    soz Beye, just got back – Phil Dowd

  • beyethegreat

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #35

    thanks rodz

    whats he like at given unwarrented yellows

  • ronaldeano

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #36


  • Rodzilla

    Feb 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #38

    …not bad, but it’s not actually Phil Dowd. Sky said it was. It looks like…………………

  • Rodzilla

    Feb 15, 2009 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #40

    ….eh? Who knows Beye. Everton’s website says it’s Dowd also, but unless he’s had a face graft it ain’t.


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