Are Newcastle Really After Another Manager?


There are lots of reports in the papers recently, that Steve Bruce is being lined up to become Newcastle manager in the summer.

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Steve Bruce – would not say no for a second time

But just to add a little bit of realism into this, we don’t think Newcastle will be looking for a new manager anytime soon, assuming Joe Kinnear can recover from his heart surgery and is fit enough, and wants to carry on the job at Newcastle.

We think he’ll be back in charge by around mid-April, at the latest. And it would appear that Mike Ashley is willing to have Joe in charge for at least two years, so he can establish Newcastle back in the top six or top eight, and even get us back into Europe.

But once Joe has achieved that, we’re not sure he can take Newcastle much further, but we’d be happy to be proved wrong on that. If we are considering new managers three that come to mind are Steve Bruce, Sven Eriksson and Mark Hughes.

If Manchester City keep losing to mediocre sides like Portsmouth, like they did over the weekend, the City owners will not keep Mark at the helm for much longer, and he’s pushing his luck with some of these poor performances.

We were really hoping, for our own good, that City could have beaten Portsmouth, who are now level on points with Newcastle.   🙁

Certainly if Mark is fired he’s be in great demand, since he’s more than a useful manager and would do well at Newcastle.

Sven Eriksson would love the Newcastle job, there’s no doubt about that, but he has said he’ll take Mexico through to the World Cup in South Africa next summer, even tho0ugh Mexico were beaten 2-0 by the USA last week in a qualifying game.

And it seems Portsmouth are more than willing to get Sven to Fratton Park to replace the woeful Tony Adams.

But of the three, Steve Bruce, born in Corbridge and raised in Newcastle,  would probably be given the chance, and this time he wouldn’t turn the job down, that’s for sure. But look for Joe still to be here come August.

What do you think?

Le us know – comments welcome, but please keep them decent and respect other readers’ views – thanks.



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105 comments so far

  • Born Again Geordie

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #1

    No Thanks – We want Sven !!!

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  • toonarmyuk

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #2

    I think it’s crystal clear to everyone that Kinnear will absolutely no way on God’s earth be able to get us into the top 6, even if he’s given 50 years to do it. I doubt top 8 is even a reality.

    If they really do have a 5 year plan to be scratching at the top 4, then we need a top manager in place in the summer – and that unfortunately is not Kinnear.

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  • MarkO

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #3

    1) Tassotti
    2) Gross
    3) Bruce
    4) Jol
    5) Martinez
    6) Shearer
    7) Irureta

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  • jos

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #4

    Well, when I spoke to hime he seemed non-plussed at being from Corbridge. I’m from Corbridge originally and when I said we were from the same place he gave a grumpy reply. Mind you, he was watching Man Utd on the telly at the time….

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  • Tom_Toon

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #6

    Dont really want Bruce but definitely DONT want Kinnear!

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  • Dragonera

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #7

    Martinez could be appointed and given time as he wouldn’t cost much, plays cracking football and has charisma.

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  • DanToon

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #8

    Kinnear’s done at Newcastle, he’s not up to it tactically of physically! MARTINEZ for Toon!

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  • richyg01

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #9

    I would take Martin Jol

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  • GazzaToon

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #10

    A manager is only as good as his players if the players are of the quality and the right attitude then the manager does not really matter, mourinho is said to be a top class manager but hes always managed the top teams in the leagues. i think as long as kinnear is healthy enough then we should keep him, our league position will be decided by the players we bring in in the summer not by what manager we have

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  • Keith Sayers

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #11

    Anybody but Bruce!!

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  • ronniezog

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #12

    this is the best manager in the world

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  • ronniezog

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #13

    this is the best manager in the world-
    born again geordie-bruce is a million times better than sven

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  • toonarmyuk

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #14

    GazzaToon – I dont think you could more wrong! Look at the players we’ve had over the years, but the club seems to have done horrifically badly. I totally admit that we’ve had some amazingly bad under-performing ‘names’, but I can honestly say that right back to Dalglish, all the managers we have had have been tactically inept and it has ruined us (I include only the very last few months of Bobby Robson’s reign in that by the way, not the whole of his tenure).
    If a manager cannot make the right substitutions, and play the right players, let alone select correct formations, playing styles etc, then the team – no matter how good – are screwed.
    I might point out in Allardyce and Kinnear’s reigns, that they are both shockingly bad at:
    1. Using the best players (numerous chances to test the youth, but instead played Geremi etc).
    2. Have no idea about how best to use substitutions (i.e. not leaving your first sub until 87th minute, despite the fact you are losing, or are drawing and could take the points with a good sub).
    3. LONG BALL!! I will say no more.

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  • Hugh de Payen

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #15

    I really don’t think it’s in the best interests of JK’s health to come back and manage Newcastle after a second big heart operation.

    If the club wants to be ‘loyal’ to him, find him another, less stressful role.

    As to the next manager, I want someone who is capable of taking us to the very top. I don’t think either Bruce or Hughes would qualify.

    Not sure about Sven.

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  • blahdyblah

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #16

    I’d give Kinnear credit for his 100% effort but we need a big personality with more tactical ability to steer this rudderless ship. What I also find worrying is the lethargic approach to all decisions made re transfers and now manager appointment. Don’t think we can afford to play the game of waiting to see if our caretaker partnership can get the team and tactics right – didn’t work last time with Hughton at the helm!

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  • ToonPhill

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #17

    well to be honest, what bruce has done wigan with team, (and i point out they are above us) is impressive. imagine what he could with our talent. he even made titus shamble play well.

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  • bennytoon

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #18

    Lawrie Sanchez or Howard Wilkinson.

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  • Toon Sweden77

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #19

    If we want Sven then the board should act quickly as Sven has held talks to Pompey. Mexico has plans to hire Javier Aguierre.

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  • bennytoon

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #20

    Toonphill- wigan have better players though!

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  • ToonPhill

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #21

    done for wigan with tht team**

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  • GazzaToon

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #22

    Dalglish won the league with blackburn so i think that would class his as a good enough manager, but newcastle did not have the players when he was here! you could not say that in the last few years we have had a team worthy of europe. under bobby robson we had top quality players which is why we got in the champions league.

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  • ToonPhill

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #23

    bennytoon – i agree they r playin better, but i believe we have the better talent.

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  • ToonPhill

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #24

    ryan taylor even said tht we have more talent 🙂

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  • Big Dave

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #25

    Hi lads i said when Jk was brought in that i didnt think he was up to it health wise. I would like to see Bruce or Ketsbia brought in as they both know about the Toon.

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  • Toon Sweden77

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #26

    GazzaToon, Daglish took over from Keegan so the players was there. But replacing Tino, Ferdinand, Bez, Beardsley, Ginola, Lee Clark etc with Andreas Andersson, Des Hamilton, Barnes, Rush, George Geordiardis etc.. He totaly destroid the team!! Ok, he brought Solano here so thanks for that..

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  • Big Dave

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #27

    Oh apart from the fact that i think Bruce would do a good job can you imagine the look on insomnias face if Bruce did leave priceless

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  • richyg01

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #28

    How about Ketsbaia and Shearer?

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  • bennytoon

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:55 PM

    Comment #29

    toonphill- out of there squad i would take valencia,zaki,nzogbia and mido to stick on the bench. Out of the newcastle squad i would only take a fit Owen and that would be to stick on the bench.

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  • Tony

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #30

    GazzaToon
    dalgliesh inherited the players from keegan,they seemed fine to me,all he had to do was some fine tuning in defence but instead gave jobs to the boys ie rush and barnes who were well past their sell by date.des hamilton is another name that comes to mind .ive allways thought if robson came in after keegan he would have been able to maintain what had allready been achieved and push on.

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  • rooks

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #31

    “But once Joe has achieved that [taken us into Europe] we’re not sure he can take Newcastle much further”

    Ed, have you been overdoing it with the Cheerios again?

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  • Craigg

    Feb 16, 2009 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #32

    Toon_Sweden77

    To be fair to Dalglish he had to make up the money the club owed on the Shearer deal, So that was the reason for most of those departures

    Although he wasnt keen on keeping Beardo and Ginola in the first place, Ferdinand, Clark, Elliott and Asprilla were forced sales.

    To be fair he did sign legends like Given, Speed, and Solano plus personal heroes of mine like Pearce and Ketsbaia.

    We also got to a cup final and beat Barcalona.

    P.S. MarkO do you mean Christian Gross?

    If so look at what he did at Sperms

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  • ToonPhill

    Feb 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #33

    bennytoon – jonas, martins, harper, beye, bassong, colo…..you wouldn’t take these players? seriously??

    anyway valencia is off in the summer, whole world knows tht

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  • Big Dave

    Feb 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #34

    I think there is more chance of us winning the epl than getting into europe with JK.

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  • Big Dave

    Feb 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #35

    I think Stéphane Guivarc’h was another Daglish signing

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  • Born Again Geordie

    Feb 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #36

    ronniezog,

    How the hell is bruce 1 million times better than Sven ????

    Howay man !

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  • Ross

    Feb 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #37

    “And it would appear that Mike Ashley is willing to have Joe in charge for at least two years, so he can establish Newcastle back in the top six or top eight, and even get us back into Europe.

    But once Joe has achieved that, we’re not sure he can take Newcastle much further, but we’d be happy to be proved wrong on that”

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    Sorry Ed but you’re dreaming if you think Joe Kinnear will have us fighting at the top of the table/potentially playing European football again inside two years. We’re quite a way off that these days-Due to off field shenanigans, aswell as on field it has to be said.

    As for Kinnear-i’ve said it before and will again. The man has clearly given 150% to the cause and i thank him for that, however his health comes first. There is no shame in being forced to quit your job regardless of what it may be-when you have your own health, wife and family to think about. Who do i want in/who do i think will be best for us? i havent a clue. Martinez and Bruce are two names being thrown about here alot but i’m unsure of both to be honest. Its a waiting game i guess, we’ll see exactly what happens in the following few month. However, i am in no way confident about the Hughton/Calderwod partnership that has been given the go ahead, hopefully they can prove me wrong.

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  • bennytoon

    Feb 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #38

    king,woodgate,dawson and corluka are better than colo.

    modic,lennon and bentley are better than jonas.

    cudicini is better than harper,

    Keane ,pav,defoe and bent(according to kinnear wanting to swap him) are better than Oba. bassong and beye- i dont know who they are.

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  • MarkO

    Feb 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #39

    Craigg look what he has done at Basel

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  • Toonkistan

    Feb 16, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #40

    Not realli off topic…but who do you guys think is the best manager in the work currently….leaving sir alex apart….for me it has to be Jose Mourinho due to the attitude and charisma that he brings with him neva mind the defensive playing style 😀

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