NUSC Rally On Sunday Is One Huge Mistake


We hadn’t heard anything about the planned rally that the Newcastle United Supporters Club (NUSC) had been planning on Sunday, before the Everton game.

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We had hoped that some common sense may prevail, after Joe Kinnear was struck down with heart problems, and the man has only recently been moved out of intensive care, but will be watching the match on TV this Sunday.  And of course hoping for a win, like every other Newcastle fan.

Only yesterday Joe appealed to Newcastle fans for their full backing, and they can be our 12th man and help us win against a good Everton side, which is another crucial game in our relegation fight.

So what are the NUSC planning to do?

They are holding a rally just before the game, to protest presumably against Mike Ashley – or is that Joe Kinnear – or just the Newcastle Board in general?

This will be nothing less than a protest against the team and the coaching staff, if they allow this rally to proceed – and that’s the very people who are trying to save the club this difficult season, and who need our support the most.

If we are defeated on Sunday, will the NUSC take responsibility for that?

While we are willing to back the NUSC if they are trying to help the club, this demonstration is nothing but a stupid endeavor, that we had hoped would have been canceled in the interests of helping the team as much as possible this Sunday, in what is a crucial game.

It will of course get huge backing from the gossip press (Mail, Sun, Mirror), who will no doubt all be there with their cameras clicking, and it will be all over the papers next Monday morning and further embarrass Newcastle United. The popular press just love this stuff, but at Newcastle United’s expense of course.

It has every chance of  negatively impacting the players and coaching staff at Newcastle on Sunday, at a time when the fans should be giving the club their full support.

That’s why we think this rally is less than helpful.



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82 comments so far

  • Corinthian

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #1

    It is not being promoted as a protest rally. Read their announcement.

    What exactly it sets out to achieve is still a bit of a mystery to me. I predict a low turn out and embarrassment for all concerned.

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  • Stevo

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #2

    Why they got to rock the boat. This wont achieve anything. MA is here to stay like it or not (which I don’t) But he’s shown his hand and the supporters must do the same now and get this club back on its feet. We have to work together now whether we like it or not.

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  • NUFCDavid

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #3

    forget about the protests they dont achieve anything, they just make the situation worse, lets gte behind the team instead

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  • sas

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #4

    “The whole emphasis will be on generating a fun, carnival atmosphere.”

    Calm down

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  • Turkish Magpie

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #5

    Does anyone think we need a replacement for Nzogbia?

    If Duff gets injured, then what?

    This guy is from my country and KK had the right idea trying to sign him

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAkjkZM-Jo

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  • Nobby_Long

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #6

    Ed,

    I’m sorry, but I think you have this all out of proportion. This is a march & rally outside of the ground. Why will it affect the team? Getting behind the team inside the ground and taking part in the rally outside are not mutually exclusive. I find your comments about NUSC being to blame if the team lose to be simply ridiculous.

    There have been far too many people on this blog trying to condemn others for expressing opinions. Live & let live.

    If NUSC want to have a rally, then that is their right. But trying to apportion blame to them if the team loses is not on and is likely to cause more infighting.

    I agree once inside the ground, we need to get behind the team, and would not want any overspill from the rally to carry-on into the ground itself. If there are no protests during the match, then how can NUSC be to blame if the team loses. Are the players not responsible for defeats themselves?

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  • ginkoh

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #7

    How can we achieve our goal, How can we fight with other team, How can we success, we still separate and conflict ourself. — –”

    I don’t see what’s benefit from this rally also. OK Mike may be bad as anyone thought but I still support him as long as he’s our chairman.

    I support NEWCASTLE united, and I don’t care whoever be our chairman, manager. I just want to see our team WIN and I alway give my fully support for them and I will do again this Sunday.

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  • SuperShearer

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #8

    Totally agree Ed this is the worst action at the worst time. The team need our support from now until the end of the season because frankly we’re in a relegation battle with a very tough run-in. All this will do is disrupt the team. The NUSC need to wake up and grow up, especially if they haevn’t even highlighted what the rally is for. Of course I will issue an apology if the rally is to show support for the team.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #9

    The plan is on NUFC.com.

    Im not going as will be at SJP from about 3/330.

    Must disagree with the part about the NUSC taking blame if the team loose.

    If the team loose it will be down to them and naff all about a rally that finishes long before kick off!

    It is going to go ahead and there is nothing we can do about it.

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  • Lancelot

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #10

    Taken from NUSC website:

    “The whole emphasis will be on generating a fun, carnival atmosphere. We hope to have flags and banners on display and we welcome supporters to bring along and display their own flags. There will be an opportunity for those who wish to, to take up membership of NUSC.”

    Seems fair enough, looks more like a self-promotion for NUSC, but if it whips up a good atmosphere, why not?

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  • cyprusmag

    Feb 20, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #11

    This will actually achieve the reverse of what they want. The pathetic turnout will convince Ashley that few agree with them.

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  • mydarling

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #12

    It is not true that protests achieve nowt. Think again.
    The last big one V. Hull forced ashley to try to sell. His management of the Toon is not acceptable if we are to progress.

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  • magforlife

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #13

    Why is it that just when we seem to be going forward, the media are gifted what they want that is another opportunity to hammer the club. This is another bullet in the foot and its about time that everyone moved on together and make the best out of what we have. On the subject of moving on, anyone see Shay rooted to his line against Pompey at the weekend and then again twice last night conceding soft headers? Dont think he is quite the superstar he is portrayed to be, Harper for me is a better all round keeper.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #14

    Magforlife:

    I said that on another thread. Looked strangely familiar didnt it.

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  • sahota

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #15

    Hi Nobby_Long,

    I agree team losing should not be related to rally. But frankly speaking this rally is for nothing? They will achieve ZERO…. nothing from it. Neither MA will leave nor Joe K due to this rally. What I am thinking is MA should come out and say to this bunch that there are no need for rallies, I am not going to leave Newcastle. And say clearly that he has plans and want to work on them and it would be great if he can come out and speak something. I think by keeping quite he is giving these guys a chance. And if MA comes out and clarifies this and still these guys do these kind of rallies, then MA should just ignore them. JUST IGNORE THEM. As when you run such a big club or even any organization you are always going to have some people not happy with you, thats reality.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #16

    Lets put this into perspective shall we.

    For those going to the match – is it really gonna cause you any problems this rally? NO. You either get dropped off and go to your seat, or grab a pint or two in the gate, strawberry, shearers or the goose for example and make your way to your seat.

    Ive got 101 things to do on Sunday before I even think about going to SJP and the rally just doesnt even come into my mind or list, as I have a life to live too.

    Im not gonna sit in the car and walk to SJP thinking oooh what are they gonna do or talk about or how is it gonna effect the team. It wont. Did the last few meetings they have do this – no?

    Realism – let them get on with it. At £35-£60K a week these ‘professional footballers’ should get on with it also.

    No one is gonna agree on this so dont fuel the fire by aguing amongst ourselves and unite at SJP for 90 mins of Toon.

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  • babelfish

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #17

    Once i am off the metro @ the monument on sunday I will be walking straight past this gathering and making my way to SJP to Support NUFC.
    NUSC should concentrate on getting their members to rally the apathetic fans in the ground to make some noise.

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  • nufc1818

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #18

    babel fish
    exactly mate, im doing the same thing
    just the guys who are going make sure you spell boycott right this time boys…

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  • nufc1818

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #19

    isnt this group run by middle aged men
    surely they are clever enough to realise this is a bad idea
    FFS the idea of this makes me so angry
    support the f**kin team!!!!
    the board arent going anyway!
    they have said that
    soooooo here we go again….. sky sports news will love this
    cos the geordies are once again made to look THICK.

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  • Tony

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #20

    you never know they might be having a spelling test as part of the rally

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  • beyethegreat

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #21
  • geordie jock

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #22

    The NUSC are just trying to get members and want to be a voice for the fans so why the hell are you lot getting your knickers in a twist. They are not protesting so get your facts right. At least these guys have some balls and are not prepared to let the current regime kill the club outright like so many on this blog ( not all i may add ), so give them a chance before you all roll over and die.

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  • Stardust

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #23

    Well Sky Sports News /Setanta / BBC news, the Sun, The Mirror, The Mail, The Times or Guardian, will be sure to give these 200 deluded fools the utmost coverage and maintain the turmoil at Newcastle.

    These egotistical idiots are marching for what? tell me what their point is – they havent got one. Worse than that they accuse the club or poor communication and now they ruin Newcastle United around the globe at a time when everyone is realising we are all on the same side.

    These morons are protesting because they arent being seen as “the” supporters club by the club. As Lee Ryder stated the other day – the club dont give them seniority over supporters clubs that have existed for years – but they will involve them.

    So what do they do protest about nothing, they bloody digust me, feelings will be high in the city centre, lets hope those digusted by them dont take things into their own hands to further play into the press hands.

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  • Stardust

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #24

    Nobby Long – you are normally a well thought out poster, even when we differ but on this occassion you are miles out. CH recently stated that the last time he took over was to the background of protests, eveyone was unsettled – etc etc – you know the quotes to which I refer.

    So why oh why having heard that do you think its possible to limit a demo’s affects to one targetted area. Im bloody fuming.

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  • nufc1818

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #25

    also the press will find the thickest trampiest person to talk to about the situation which will just be laughable

    what do they think is gonna happen when they do this ????? thats the point

    it will unsettle players

    i mean ashley could decide im not owning this club at all and we would be completely left in the s**t

    grow up lads!

    maybe grow to the age of 15 then you can talk.

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  • John-Wallsend

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #26

    What a ridiculous article followed by some ridiculous posts.

    Newcastle’s fans have been taken for granted and treated like mugs for decades! Can we all agree on that? Various Chairmen over the years, from Westwood to Shepherd, have taken our money and not given us back what we paid for. In other words, the fans have poured Millions of pounds into the club and haven’t been given the success we crave.

    Now NUSC is trying to provide a platform for the Toon Army to have it’s voice heard. And what happens? It gets slated for it! Not only does it get slated, it also gets blamed for causing a fuss and potentially harming the team! In case you hadn’t noticed it, Newcastle United isn’t exactly a Premier League powerhose.

    Fair enough, we all have different opinions so I respect those people that don’t agree with what NUSC is trying to achieve. But it seems to me that a lot of those opinions are based purely upon ignorance of what NUSC is trying to achieve. I’d urge those people to look on NUSC’s website, look on NUFC.com, look in local and national newspapers and read what they’ve got to say about NUSC.

    In case you people who disagree with NUSC ‘causing a fuss’ hadn’t noticed Newcastle is in serious danger of being relegated. If the club that we all love being in danger of being relegated isn’t a good enough reason for making your voice heard then what is?

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  • Stardust

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #27

    Im Incredulous – NUSC are ran by the biggest morons and followed by even bigger morons.

    They quote “Some members have requested that NUSC petition the executives of Newcastle United therefore members will be seeking support for the petition during the course of the rally.

    There will be stewards on hand, wearing high visibility jackets who will be there to assist anyone who requires help and a low key but nonetheless obvious police presence will be in the vicinity; as there would be on any normal match day.

    NUSC politely request that those attending the rally pay respect to those who wish to go about their normal Sunday shopping experience and allow them to do so with the minimum of distraction. We would also like to emphasise that this is not a protest and no march is planned or sanctioned nor permission requested by NUSC.”

    The absolute bloody morons, PETITIONS is the only thing the press will pick up on – they have to be ran by the biggest bunch of egotistical prats and morons I have ever seen. They have covetted and courted their position inthe limelight THEN they go on to shame Newcastle around the UK and potentially globe, what do they think they are doing.

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  • neil

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #28

    Come on Ed that is a bit strong. If (And we all hope we don’t!) NUFC lose will NUSC take responsibility for this? Whether anyone agrees with the protest or not you can’t expect a rally/protest to take responsibility for anything that goes on on the pitch.

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  • Whumpie

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #29

    If you read the announcement, two things are clear if you read between the (somewhat vague) lines:

    1. The rally is a recruitment drive for NUSC; little more.
    2. They’ve not communicated this properly and are inviting people to bring banners, etc.

    Upshot: little impact on the game, but more embarrassment for the club, as lots of different people with different opinions turn up with different banners calling for different things. The press will have another good NUFC-fuelled laugh, and more good players will keep us at arm’s length come the summer.

    Upshot: the NUSC are trying to recruit, but they’re doing it in the one way most likely to stop the club recruiting in the summer.

    Selfish and stupid.

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  • Penalty-Spot

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #30

    It’s not a protest. “We would also like to emphasise that this is not a protest and no march is planned or sanctioned nor permission requested by NUSC.”

    The only worry is that a minority of idiots will attempt to make it in to a protest.

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  • Sav

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #31

    What is the problem, Ed?
    Its a forum for fans to vent their views, same as this one. And at least those taking part will be actual supporters going to the game. If you read the schedule of the meeting, it is long on musical entertainment and quite short on rabble-rousing.
    As others have pointed out here, it will be over well before the game and there is no question of not supporting the team on the pitch.
    Even those who have bought the ‘reformed Ashley and Llambias’ deal would probably agree that it is a good thing that fans have made their feelings known in an orderly and collective voice this season. That of itself could be one of the best things to emerge from a train-wreck of a year for NUFC. It is important to keep that going. You yourself, Ed, have vacillated with editorials for and against the Ashley regime – sometimes in the same week!

    For most, it seems that they are still waiting for Ashley and Co. to back their words with deeds. Even though they are prepared to give them until the summer to do so, it is vital that fans have a forum to act collectively.
    This is one forum, NUSC another. You should think before condemning them so roundly in your blog. They are not the kids jumping up and down behind David Craig on the SJP steps, but Newcastle supporters, same as you and me.

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  • Little Willie

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #32

    Judging by their poor effort for the day they arranged for Sir Bobby I don’t expect this march to be up to much.

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  • Stardust

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #33

    Sav “For most, it seems that they are still waiting for Ashley and Co. to back their words with deeds. ”

    By the last comment alone you are one of the people they will choose never to satisfy – at a time this regime have supported us tot he tune of approaching 300million and the last removed 150million, you campaign against the current.

    Tell me have they got to sacrifice their children before youd give them any credit.

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  • Little Willie

    Feb 20, 2009 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #34

    Sav – The stuff about a collective voice would have been a good idea if the NUSC had gone about things the right way, yet they decided to try and run before they could walk and were making threats to the club about writing to sponsors telling them to pull out of NUFC, demanding Wise and Llambias be sacked even though they don’t know what went on etc. All this when they had a few hundred members at the time.

    Instead of trying to get in dialog with the club and trying to make their point heard from the inside they went on a power trip instead, it’s only recently that they’ve realised that a supporters club without any communication with the club is good for nothing.

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  • stu

    Feb 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #35

    what are the angle of the protest?

    Are they looking to looking for communication because the club will just say they have moved to sort this with the chairmans recent interview?

    or are they looking to be heard by the club despite being invited to the fans forum?

    Or are they just trying to rally for the removal of MA, despite the fact he has already put the club up for sale and there were no buyers?

    Or is it that they will not be buying season tickets next year even though it was in the paper that the club have recognised this?

    Or it is about the resignation of KK given that no1 can comment on this with the impending court case?

    Or are they wanting to use the Sky television propganda to show that they represent a large majority of nufc fans than they do.

    So what are they trying to achieve?

    Just out of interest have they ever managed to back up any of their claims with a factual argument. For my the most annoying claim is that any income is “lining ashley’s pockets” without any financial credit. A close rival is that he is wanting us to go down, even though he is paying the 6th highest wage bill in the premiership. The only thing that these protests are due to a frustration that we are no longer challenging for Europe, if we were nothing would be happening. I would blame this on the instability of the club in terms of the constant management change, the club needs a stable structure something which is being immplemented at the moment.

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  • ToonTinka

    Feb 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #36

    Wtf is this protest going to achieve??????????

    The club have spoke, and outlined intentions and a plan. It was different before when there has been no communication.. But now they “HAVE”.

    And if we are beat on Sunday, then this wouldn’t of helped would it? It’s hardly doing the opposite and helping is it? FFS, there is simply no reason to protest now.

    Wait until the summer and if all is wrong and no investment made then yes we can all rally, but at the minute? NO!

    You have no reason to rally fuc# all!!!!!!!!!!

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  • richyg01

    Feb 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #37

    NUFC Needs SUPPORT not BOYCOTT!

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  • John-Wallsend

    Feb 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #38

    I don’t see why people have a problem with NUSC trying to raise its profile and get new members. In case I’ve misread the situation that’s how democratic organisations work, isn’t it? People who believe some thing try to persuade other people to join them in persuing certain aims, in this case that Newcastle’s fans deserve answers about the way their money is being spent. NUSC is being democratic, what’s wrong with that? At least NUSC is trying to give Newcastle’s fans a place where their views can be heard and they can meet people that share their views.

    NUSC thinks that Newcastle’s fans deserve better representation than young kids with bed sheets jumping about on Sky Sports News. Why do some fans have a problem with that?

    The bottom line is that if you don’t agree with NUSC then you have a few choices. Either go along to their meetings, say your piece and make sure they do represent your views. Set up your own supporters club and try and get people to come along and air their views. Or do neither and just keep going along to games, or not as is your choice. The difference between the first two optons and the last one is that at least the first two try and get the club to take notice of you.

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  • beyethegreat

    Feb 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #39

    tinka

    it isnt a protest

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  • beyethegreat

    Feb 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #40

    my biggest fear in all this is we will be made to look like a bunch of thick twats

    i see what they are sayin but surely this is the wrong time especially as jfk is in hospital can we not just get on with the season i mean if anything they should be organising a get well rally for jfk

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