Newcastle – Keegan Legal Dispute Could Drag On For Months


Just when we thought the club may be able to get some problems behind them, and move forward, we hear today from the Newcastle Journal that the legal dispute between Kevin Keegan and Newcastle United may drag on for months.

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Kevin Keegan wants £9M from Newcastle

Yesterday we had reported that Newcastle would need to pay out around £10M for Keegan and Gutierrez, and that was an estimated based on the fact Derek Llambias had said that it would take £4M to pay off  Real Mallorca and we had estimated £6M to Keegan, since the reports suggested he was after £8M.

There is a preliminary hearing between the two legal teams to discuss the case in the next couple of weeks, but the Journal understands it is unlikely that an agreement will be reached at that time.

The Journal is reporting today, however, that Keegan has claimed 3 years wages of £9M, for constructive dismissal, and both sides think they have a good case, It seems that Kevin wants the rest of his contract fully paid up, but that is rather unusual and cases like this settle for less.

Keegan is saying he was sacked and Newcastle say he walked out on them, and are counter-suing Keegan.

Newcastle of course would like to see the case settled as quickly as possible so they know if they are going to have to pay out any compensation and, if so, how much.

It’s fairly clear too that Keegan has had his last job in football management and he will want to maximize any settlement he will get from the Newcastle United club.

It’s a sorry way for both sides to close the door on Kevin, who has been one of Newcastle’s best managers ever.

Newcastle are due to receive around £16M from the sale of Shay Given, David Rozehnal, James Milner and Charles N’Zogbia in the summer, but that money was hoped to be used for some player recruitment this summer, which is lining up for the club to be a crucial transfer window, if the team is to be better than a relegation fighting side next season.

Mike Ashley is said by Llambias to be willing to put £15M of his own money into the transfer pot each season for new players, which would give Joe Kinnear around £30M this summer.

It seems that whatever figure Keegan gets will reduce that amount although there is also the transfer fee for Gutierrez, so not sure that has been taken into account. And Joe will also be able to get money for Geremi, Xisco and potentially Alan Smith, to bring in new players too.

It is in the best interests of Newcastle to clear up this case quickly, and for Kevin Keegan it is unlikely he will receive his full 3 year wages after he left, in what at best were controversial circumstances.  We hope both sides will be sensible and allow some settlement to be reached quickly.

For the good of Newcastle United, the club, we hope both sides can settle, and settle soon, because we’ve had enough of the circus at Newcastle this season.

The Newcastle club needs a new fresh start with all the many problems of this season put behind us.

Here’s hoping.

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96 comments so far

  • Kash

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #1

    It could mean that we have £20m in the summer (taking into account KK’s settlement) and once the case has been settled the remaining for January?!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #2

    Its only a problem if we let it be one. Im more concerned about staying in the prem that KK.

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  • Stuart79

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #3

    Oh dear ED!

    You know you’re not allowed to post articles from the Journal on YOUR blog!

    Sir Stardust Mackem won’t be happy!!!!

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  • DanToon

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #4

    Employing Keegan in the first place was a mistake and a massive one it turns out, not only has it ballsed up this season but it may balls up next season n’all… He only took the job coz he was going bankrupt!

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  • Fostino

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #5

    wat a mug keegan has turned out to be, he really does have newcastle united best interests at heart if he’s looking for three years pay….the mesiah lost alot of respect from me im afraid if this is true!!

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  • Fresh

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #6

    KK was the best thing to ever happen to Newcastle United for a very long time and you just had to watch the way he had the team playing the first time and the second time, I have never once this season seen the team play for JK the way they did for KK. It still makes me sad the way that he left this time around but there is definetly something in it if lambiase is trying to pay him off – KK is a man of principle and he sticks to them – he only ever wanted what was best for the club but was prevented from doing so by the morons who are in the board – a lot of fans would do well to remember what KK stood for at this club and how much of his heart is in this club.

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  • Waldo P. Barnstormer

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #7

    Ed where do you get the info that Xisco is going as every article you put his name down as leaving,when only the other week Llambias said he was bought for the future not this season.

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  • Waldo P. Barnstormer

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #8

    Freash I’ve been reading your posts over the last day or so. Are you actually Keegan?

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  • ginkoh

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #9

    9M! who don’t want it ? IT give you don’t need to work all of your life. Even Keegan is not different.

    I support and love in Newcastle United. Not Keegan or Ashley and surely whatever Keegan want to do now. It’s not good for the club. Be Honestly and Absolutely truth that Keegan just do it for himself not the club. It’s not just only Keegan and Ashley but include Newcastle United too.

    Again and again, Another circus story from us. We’re so sick with it. Please god please, leave us alone. TT

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  • Fresh

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #10

    Nah just a kid who still clings on in false hope of a return to the days of the entertainers…

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  • Nobby_Long

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #11

    Did anyone pick up on Llambias’s comment that we will not receive any money for the sale of Given & N’Zogbia until the summer.

    What sort of business men are these people???

    Why on earth are we giving players to clubs, especially Man City, then giving them what amounts to an interest free loan???

    I dare bet we tried to get Johnson from them on the same terms….which no doubt the rejected…

    Why should we feel sorry For Ashley if he allwos this sort of thing to take place?

    Is the man a total fool???

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  • hitman

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #12

    my worry is with ashley having to pay out compen,that we end up with no transfer money in the summer.

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  • Monster

    Feb 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #13

    Nobby, I don’t think that amounts to Ashley being a fool – at the end of the day we needed Charlie out of the club as he was a disruptive element and the same could possibly apply to Shay at the end. We won’t need the money til summer anyway so where’s the problem?

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  • Stardust

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #14

    Nobby Long – I am sure you are aware of all the facts of negotiation – and you have a deep understanding of the issues, thereon you take is Ashley was foolish – can you fill us in.

    Just anyone looking in would have thought the man who would benefit most in a transaction (Ashley in this case0 would have wanted to get the best deal he could.

    You seem to know better – please enlighten me.

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  • hitman

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #15

    stardust,what nobby is saying why didnt the club ask for the money upfront for given,its not like man city couldnt afford it is it.

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  • Nobby_Long

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #16

    We did & do need the money though – that’s the problem. We did not sign anyone on deadline day BECAUSE WE DID NOT BID ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM.

    Llambias states on the one hand that we as a club will pay up front for players, then we allow them to leave without receiving a penny from the buying club first.

    How do you think that information, which is now in the public domain, is going to be perceived and used by other clubs when dealing with us in the future?

    As for N’Zogbia – I agree he was a problem, but this is not even a loan deal with an agreed price for the summer. I would rather have him train on his own away from the team until the end of the season than give to another club for six months for nothing.

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  • Sav

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #17

    Ashley would have found it made better sense to dismiss Wise and Llambias. Or stick to his word.

    His choice. Silly boy.

    Whatever chance there may have been of KK just walking away were probably dashed by the ‘It is a Fact….’ statement and Llambias saying he would have wanted to ‘give him a slap’. The Westham supporting bingo-caller who’d been in Newcastle a wet weekend talking about a legend on Tyneside like that?

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  • beyethegreat

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #18

    i am in full support of kk he had every right to leave but and for what he has done in the past in my eyes he will always be a legend but if he loves the club so much why is he suing us

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #19

    Fresh lad….

    no side, however good, will be like the entertainers….honest bunch of top professionals who were at the top of there game….remember knocking back £200 from 2 geezers outside the ground before the Manure match the season we lost the massive lead at the top…..wouldnt have swopped it for the world kidda…..magic time….

    probably to be seen again….times have moved on….

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  • Micky Toon

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #20

    With regards to Zog, I can see your point Nobby and I’m also a bit miffed as to why we did such a deal. However it has saved us some money in wages. If he was still with us and rotting in the reserves we would have had to pay his wages, and let’s be honest if he was still here he would be in the 1st team due to out lack of numbers.

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #21

    Lads….re the coin up front/in the summer carry on….

    We probs got a better price for both Nzog and Given for allowing the fees to be paid in the summer….bit odd re City as they have a wad of dollar however MA aint daft, the reason for doing it this way will benefit the club….or he wouldnt be doing it

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  • bowburnmag

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #22

    Mick – Thank god you got Pingel’s name right, eventually! I thought I was going to have to step in.

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  • Micky Toon

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #23

    LoonyToon – Agreed. I think it was made all the more sweeter due to the rubbish we’d put up with for as long as I can remember. From the whole of the 80’s I can only remember two good points – Keegan and Gazza. The rest is a blur of rubbish performances, standing in p1ss and sack the board chants.

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  • beyethegreat

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #24

    micky toon

    standing in piss?

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  • bowburnmag

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #25

    Mick – H’way, there was plenty of good stuff. Waddler, Beardsley, terraces, Wharton sitting on a ball. Of course you’re a bit longer in the tooth than me so you know all of this and you’ve momentarily forgotten…..

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  • Micky Toon

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #26

    bowburn – yeah, I finally managed to dodge that bullet, just waiting for the next one!

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #27

    Also we havnt exactly given Zog to Wigan for the next 6 month for zip…..We got Ryan Taylor in exchange….granted his contract was up in the summer however we would still have had to stump up a fee for the lad…

    my understanding is that the deal was 6 million and Zog for Ryandinho 😉

    We got rid of a lad who didnt want to be here and was quite frankly a t1t, and brought someone in who wants to play for us, can play in a number of positions and has already shown his quality in the matches he has played…..excellent deal…

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  • UTD111

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #28

    Nobby – to answer your question “what sort of businessmen are these”….

    One is a cockney barrow boy who’s made a fortune selling cheap T-shirts to Chavs, the other is a “Casino King” who likes nothing better these days than to “sell pies”

    Neither has a clue about customers, communication or how to run a football club, but the barrow boy once lost more in the casino one night than he got for selling Shay Given ….

    I’d rather the £6m went to Sir Kevin Keegan than be wasted on “black 17” by the barrow boy….

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  • ginkoh

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #29

    The contract detail should be in secret. It’s all inside information we never know.

    Like every deal, We don’t know how they paid the players value, CASH? Cheque? Installment? also in deeper detail in contract we deal with. Example,May be we still have to pay for Owen, Enrique etc, who know ?

    It’s simple when you buy/sell car or house.
    I don’t think it’s always CASH or only 1 Cheque payment. The same as this.

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #30

    post 19
    *probably (never) to be seen again….times have moved on….

    errrrr

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  • bowburnmag

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #31

    Bollards were sh*t as well. Always raked the skin off your knuckles or bruised your ribcage. Unless you stood on them to orchestrate and the Blaydon Races went up. Then you were in trouble. Of course only dafties kicked off ‘the races’ while perched on a 5 inch thick concrete bollard. There were plenty of them though.

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  • Micky Toon

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #32

    beyethegreat – Oh yes, fond memories of the gallowgate. “Score Board, Score Board.” I was too girly to go in the corner more than once.

    bowburn – I’m only 35 so I was a only a kidda when I was at the games. To be honest I never even noticed beardo much. I always liked waddler though, even down to asking my barber for a chrissy waddle haircut. Everyone at school had one, I bet you did too.

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #33

    beye…
    “standing in p1ss”
    ———————————

    lets just say the facilities wrnt as good as they are now back then 😉

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  • Whumpie

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #34

    I think a lot of things point to KK being more in the right than Ashley and co.

    I acknowledge that their business strategy, but look at all the things that point at their inexperience in football – plus enormous arrogance – costing us dear:

    – The non-communication decision
    – Appointing Llambias
    – Chaotic and largely underwhelming transfer windows
    – Terrible deal for Given (low fee, no Johnson, late payment)

    Then consider that Llambias has already said he expects to shell out £6m to pay off KK. That’s tantamount to admitting they know they screwed up.

    BUT I just hope KK is ready to settle and doesn’t drag us all through the mire for months for an extra couple of mil. He needs to put some value on his reputation with the Toon, and with £6m in his pocket he should be able to do that.

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #35

    What Bowburn is failing to tell everyone is that he was around when the war was on 😉

    at least he plays his football like he was….xx

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  • beyethegreat

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #36

    micky and looney i have a few questions to ask and i will in an hour as i have a driving lesson

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  • bowburnmag

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #37

    Loony – I hope Ryan Taylor becomes a legend in his own right up here and he obviously can deliver from set-plays better than anybody we’ve had in recent times but everything else about him that I’ve seen has been slightly underwhelming to be honest. Not doing the kid down. I like his attitude etc but I wouldn’t say I’m excited just yet. Wait til he puts one in the top corner from 30 yards on Sunday first.

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  • Micky Toon

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #38

    Ahh the bollards. I remember in our promotion season a mate of mine broke his wrist in the leazes end on a bollard when we surged forward after scoring against Bradford City. I also remember the game because I always wanted Bez to score and at one point he went on what can only be described as a mazy run towards goal, reminiscent of Maradonna in his prime, only to blast wide. Gutted.

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #39

    MickeyToon

    Tell you what fella….when the john hall was built, I had the choice of moving from the paddocks into that….so I did….1st game against Spuds back in the prem and the bogs wrnt even sorted…..there was p1ss all over the parish…

    and the bloody thing was moving cos the foundations hadnt settled….

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  • hitman

    Feb 27, 2009 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #40

    where abouts you doing your lesson beyethegreat,just so i can let people know to stay in doors.lol

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