Newcastle Now Need A Win Against Mighty Manchester United


It’s time for Newcastle players to show what they are made of, in an attempt to keep Newcastle United in the Premier League next season, starting on Wednesday evening against Manchester United.

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Steven Taylor – time to stand up and be counted

Boyhood Newcastle fan Taylor, who was also a ball boy in the first Kevin Keegan era, insists the club’s under-fire players need to stand up and be counted on the pitch. We agree with that whole heartedly.

The reality that Newcastle may be in the Championship next season, is not even worth thinking about for lots of Newcastle fans.

Steven Taylor said today:

“This has to bring out the men in the dressing room,”

“We’ll see exactly who wants to play for this football club. The lads need to show character, and show exactly how much playing for Newcastle means to them.”

“We’re in a serious relegation fight. We’ve lost a game we should have won. That didn’t happen, and now we have to dust ourselves off for Manchester United.”

“They’re the best team in the world, and we have to be men and stand up to that.”

Newcastle were not at their best yesterday, especially in the second half,  and never looked like scoring, after Gardner’s 47th minute goal, though they had a strong penalty claim waved away by referee Alan Wiley when Jloyd Samuel handled a shot from Fabricio Coloccini.

Taylor added:

“The first half was good, but after the goal in the second half we just seemed to cave in a little bit.”

“We created chances, but the deliveries weren’t there and there was no final ball. Personally, I didn’t think we looked like scoring.”

“With the penalty, I saw Samuel’s hands in the air. Refs have said in the past if you keep your hands in the air that is defined as a penalty, and if you keep them by your side, it isn’t.”

“I spoke to the ref and asked why he hadn’t gave it, and he said it was because Samuel’s eyes weren’t looking at the ball.”

“Had we got the penalty it may have been the turning point.”

What we need on Wednesday night, to recover from the increasing likelihood we may be relegated this season, is a win.

That may seem almost impossible right now, but that’s what we need – a win and all 3 points against the current World Club Champions – the best club side in the world.

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86 comments so far

  • Toon_Ksk (Huh? u mean David Craig is real?)

    Mar 2, 2009 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #1

    A win? I’ll be contented to lose by just 2 goals!

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  • hitman

    Mar 2, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #2

    can anyone on here see us turning owa manu.

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  • Ashley Hole

    Mar 2, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #3

    Manu……against our poor side…..but FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We don`t ask nothing more just fight……!!!!!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 2, 2009 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #4

    That title made me laugh. Not in a bad way just a chuckle that tickles.

    It will take one HELL of a performance and the luck of the world to do that.

    Aye – now we here the rallying calls for the team but they didnt really show that yesterday – they looked clueless for a long time.

    Support – always and unqestioned.

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  • Jezza

    Mar 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #5

    Wednesday night will be an even bigger humiliation than the 5-1 home drubbing against Liverpool. The final result will be determined by one single factor…the number of goals Manchester want to score. Let’s face it, if Manchester put out their youth team they’d still turn us over easily.

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  • bennytoon

    Mar 2, 2009 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #6

    It would be best to just play a very defensive game as relegation could come down to goal difference. Your going to lose so its best to try and keep it to one or 2.

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  • RyanToon

    Mar 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #7

    my opinion

    newcastle 0-4 man utd

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  • RichY

    Mar 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #8

    i disagree, we don’t need to win against Man U.

    If we lose it does not mean we are relegated.
    Other teams will slip up.
    are we assuming we won’t get any points in other games?
    the biggest MUST win games will be Hull and Stoke.

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  • Gilly

    Mar 2, 2009 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #9

    Got to hand it for Taylor for at least telling the truth.
    A win is not a must on Wednesday night, what is a must is to not be humilated so that there is something to aim for in the must win games.

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #10

    Win against Man U we have 2 hopes.. Bob Hope & No Hope. We couldn’t win an argument at the moment. I think we will do well to get 10 points from the remaining fixtures. Championship here we come.

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  • cloudstrife

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #11

    i agree Ashley Hole, there’s only a very small chance of us beatin Man U. we know that, the players know that… but we want to see FIGHT!

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  • SuperShearer

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #12

    Taylor says we didn’t look like scoring. The problem is that he’s absolutely right and what’s more we always look like we’re going to concede. You have to ask what the coaches and players are being paid for if they cannot get one of the aspects of the game right. The passing is poor, the scoring is none existent, the service is like the Easter Bunny, and the defense is shaky to say the least. Relegation is more than just a threat right now, it’s the inevitable.

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  • Graeme

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #13

    What we need on wednesday is a credible performance from 11 men wearing black and white, fighting for the team, the shirt, the honour for 90 minutes.

    If we get the dross that they served up yesterday, we will get a proper pasting. There should be no place for the shirkers who were on the pitch yesterday.

    I would sooner play half the reserves than have to watch another display of mediocrity that was shown against Bolton. At least they will put the work in knowing it might just get them the breakthrough into the first team. We have absolutely nothing to lose!!!

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  • Stardust

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #14

    Going to be controversial but when did that stop me

    Taylor “We’ll see exactly who wants to play for this football club. The lads need to show character, and show exactly how much playing for Newcastle means to them.”

    Is that why he hid behind Colo and marked nothing and didnt tell Colo to push for their goal.

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  • Joseph

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #15

    well we might catch them with a carling cup hangover and with pool losing at the weekend they might be complacent thinking the titles already theres (which it is)

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #16

    Dammit, I hate the fact that I agree with Benny.

    Sorry, but we have to play a flat back 10 and limit that goal difference. Let’s just remember that we did that at Old Trafford, and managed to actually come away with a point. I don’t know if that’s possible with so many key midfielders out, but we do have the personnel if we can just get them to play.

    It’s a time for experience – so get Viduka and Geremi on from the start and try to pick out Martins with one of the thousand or so long clearances…

    Sorry, I know it’s negative, but it’s that or another 5-0 pasting.

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  • Gilly

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #17

    Stardust, not sure what you mean mate, I watched the game and thought that Butt didn’t track Gardiner for their goal.
    I am not saying that Tayl’s is the worlds best defender, but he has been one of our most prominent attacking outlets of recent games.
    Which is quite poor form for a team really.

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  • hitman

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #18

    lets hope manu have an off day,or crash the bus on the way to the toon.

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  • Gilly

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #19

    @ Hitman..I think the crash bit is the best we can hope for

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #20

    BennyToon….

    I have just done a quick and honest assessment of the points tally for the bottom 8 sides looking over their remaining fixtures….

    If have Spurs down to finish on 46 points…well clear of relegation….bearing in mind you wont have European football next season, while also under achieving again this season league wise, do you think you will hold onto your better players next season?

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  • Stardust

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #21

    Agree with you Gilly – but once the overrun had taken place it was an easy thing to defend against IF Colo has known Taylor was there. Colo did the right thing as it was obvious he didnt know Taylor wasnt there. he held his position and then moved once he had restricted the option of the pass. Totally agree though if taylor is meant to be out attacking salvation its poor though.

    I just wish he would shut up and play for the team, not for Steven taylor, and not open his mouth trying to look like he is the all conquering hero when he showed the opposite in that move.

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #22

    Gilly // Mar 2, 2009 at 2:13 PM

    Stardust, not sure what you mean mate, I watched the game and thought that Butt didn’t track Gardiner for their goal.
    I am not saying that Tayl’s is the worlds best defender, but he has been one of our most prominent attacking outlets of recent games.
    Which is quite poor form for a team really.
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    Couple of mistakes for the goal….
    1) he wasnt tracked by the midfiield…
    2)When he wasnt tracked, he didnt get picked up by the defence….If you watch the build up to the goal carefully, Colo gets blocked off by Davies as he tries to edge over, leaving a massive space for Gardner to stroll into….
    Granted Colo left it late to make his move however I do believe Taylor will have told him to shimmy over and cover….and the top level, communication is important but what is more important is how it is understood…Colo is still coming to terms with the lingo and there is a possibility that, for a split second, something was lost in translation, leaving us wide open….

    for all that, it was a goal that could have been prevented….

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  • Tony

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #23

    I thought in the second half against everton we showed a lot of spirit.dont know what happened to it yesterday.i could not understand the substitutions either for houghton to turn round and say he was happy with the performance proves that we need someone else in charge.geremie will be of no use on wednesday as he is far too slow . give lua lua a chance ,we have nothing to lose as no one expects to get anything from the game. im just tired of seeing players go through the motions

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  • Gilly

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #24

    Have to say Stardust all valid points.

    That said I am sure many would prefer players to come out and make valid comment as opposed to a stand in manager’s sanguine comment on the game.

    We were awful why not just say it.

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  • Darling27

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #25

    No chance in hell.

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  • Toon Sweden77

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #26

    As Ashley and Co blames Shepherd for the poor finances at the club, wondering if they going to put the blame on him if we go down this season as well

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  • bennytoon

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #27

    loonytoon-what better players? Most are underachievers who need to be booted out of the club.The only ones i rate are cudicini,corluka,king,woodgate,dawson,lennon,modric,palacios,keane.None of whom will leave. The rest can clear off.

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  • Stardust

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #28

    Looney – “Granted Colo left it late to make his move however I do believe Taylor will have told him to shimmy over and cover”

    I disgaree Looney – IF Taylor had shouted he would have moved over to cover BUT he waited for Colo to go – he held a no mans land position hiding so why – IF I was Taylor and Colo hadnt understood my call I would have either ran past him to mark the oncoming or I would have got close and said the easy word everyone in the world footbal knows “Push” or even a gentle hand on the back and Colo would have released and moved. ….

    Its no coincidence that the majority of our goals involve these two when combined – but I would say this – Colo was a rock with Bassong and Beye – taylor has ruined many a good defenders reputation – how long can he hide for.

    I do accept his general play has improved of late though – but its goals he is meant to prevent and I dont hink he has got it.

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  • Stuart79

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #29

    Stardust

    Taylor should NOT be telling a 10m pound argentina international player anything!

    Once again you sow your total lack of anything football. Stick to talking about the business side of things!

    Collocini was a Mike Ashley’s regime purchase so I wouldn’t expect you to be anything other than supportive of him!

    Oh and I might as well ask you as you’ll give us some bullsh1t:

    What advantage do you see in the club paying transfer fees up front and recieving payment like you would a catalogue?

    No wonder we have cash flow issues!

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #30

    loonytoon-what better players? Most are underachievers who need to be booted out of the club.The only ones i rate are cudicini,corluka,king,woodgate,dawson,lennon,modric,palacios,keane.None of whom will leave. The rest can clear off.
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    Bit of a shake up required then

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  • Stardust

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #31

    “Toon Sweden77 // Mar 2, 2009 at 2:31 PM

    As Ashley and Co blames Shepherd for the poor finances at the club, wondering if they going to put the blame on him if we go down this season as well”

    Hopefully people will see it was the Mobs reaction and KK walking thats to blame – Ashley was simply caught in the cross hairs of an irresponsible kneejerk fan backlash – therein the blame lies.

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #32

    I’d love to see Lua Lua get a run out.. but against the best team on the planet? It would kill his confidence for good. Wednesday is the time to field players who’ve had a thrashing before and know how to deal with it.

    Geremi is slow, but frankly he’s also strong and experienced and may be our only remaining option as a defensive midfielder who’s anything like hard to get past. Put him next to Smith and tell them to stop the ball getting to the last third, and to try to keep posession as long as possible.

    Likewise with the wingers – tell them to defend primarily, and only put a ball in to the box if they have a decent chance (at least 70/30) of it reaching a black and white shirt when it gets there.

    As for the full-backs, they need to be reigned right in and told to kill anything that makes it past the midfield, and to stay in position.

    And that includes S. Taylor!

    If we could get someone to amputate Ronaldiver’s legs somewhere above the waist that would be good too.

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #33

    Stardust post 28….

    At the top level, these situations develop at a rapid rate….if a call or communication aint understood immediately, you can be punished…

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #34

    Lua Lua is a confident lad Whumpie….

    He has the ability to trouble even the best players….

    Watched his last season take Gary Neville apart for the reserves at St James….granted Neville wasnt totally up to speed but he is still one of the most experienced full backs in the world who has a future at Man U….

    The boy could just be the spark that gets the crowd going….cannot see him starting mind unless there are other injuries…..He would be in my side….front 3 of him, The Duke and Oba with Smith, Jonas, and R Taylor, grafting, hunting and snapping at people in the middle…

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #35

    Whumpie // Mar 2, 2009 at 2:39 PM
    If we could get someone to amputate Ronaldiver’s legs somewhere above the waist that would be good too
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    We could try and sneak big Kev on…. 😉

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  • Stardust

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #36

    Agreed! Looney – I was screaming at Taylor to move over at the game though – I couldnt believe what I was seeing! now imagine 0 that Taylor was Bramble! what abuse would he have took!

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  • Kash

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #37

    When Geremi came on yesterday, he was the only player I noticed who would get his head up and start to pass and move, albeit move very slowly.

    We desperately need Guthrie back, to come in and knit some interplay together!

    But having Lovenkrads on the wing, because he can’t pass, is a waste. I’d rather put Lua Lua in and at least attempt to retain possession!

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  • Stardust

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #38

    Sturat

    Not sure why you always try and point score with the weakest of foundations for the start of a debate – my point was Colo wasnt aware taylor was behind him and Taylor did nothing to alert him. I seggest you watch his positioning again and again – then you will understand.

    May I suggest youve never played the game?

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  • LoonyToon @ graft

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #39

    Aye Stardust…he would have taken a battering….

    Just looking at the fixtures…..Boro and Fulham at home the the bounce mid May…..

    Those games could turn out to be just as big as Pompy back in 92’….

    Would love to drop the smogs in the dirt

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  • hitman

    Mar 2, 2009 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #40

    protests and managers leaving do not get you relegated,its players and coches that do that.

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