Newcastle Still Better Off Than Last Season

Newcastle are actually better of this season than they were last season, at the same time, at least in terms of the goal difference we have.


After 27 games played this season Newcastle are on 28 points with a goal difference of -10.

Last year, after 27 games played we had 28 points and had just been hammered 5-1 at Manchester United, and had a goal difference of  -22, and went onto get two more defeats in a row after that.

We lost in the following two games, at home to Blackburn 1-0, and then were soundly beaten 3-0 at Liverpool, so after 29 games we had just 28 points and a terrible goal difference of -26. Right now our goal difference is -10, and thankfully better than most at the bottom of the league.

The last thing we want is to get clobbered by either Manchester United, Arsenal or Chelsea in the upcoming games, so we can at least have a decent goal difference which could be worth an extra point to us.

The problem we have this year is we are just 2 points above the drop zone, whereas  last year, with the very same number of points, we were 6 points above the drop zone.

Last season Reading were relegated in 3rd bottom place, with 36 points and that’s the same total as Fulham ended up with. But Fulham, as we know,  amazingly won 4 of their last 5 league games in what has to do down as a near miracle by Fulham manager Roy Hodgson.

It looks like something around 40 points or more will be needed to stay up this year.

In our final 11 games last year we managed 15 points to end up with a total of 43 points, in 12th place, but we still managed to lose our final two games, 2-0 at home to Chelsea, which was a huge disappointment,  and 3-1 at Everton on the final day of the season.

The 43 points we got last year was out worst ever in the Premier league and it equaled the previous season, when we were in 13th place with those 43 points, but had a better goal difference of -9.

Our last two seasons have been the worst we’ve ever had in the Premier league, although it looks like this season could be our worst points total ever, if we cannot reach 43 points.

The good news is we still have 11 games left and 33 points still to play for this season, so if we can just put a little run together before the end of the season, we could still be safe come mid-May.

Here’s hoping    ……    here’s praying.    😀

Comments welcome.

192 comments so far

  • coyote

    Mar 3, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #1

    how about the carrot and stick approach?
    good bonus if we escape relegation
    no wages till next season if we’re relegated
    might make them think a bit eh?

  • RyanToon

    Mar 3, 2009 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #2

    hammered 5-1 at man united?

    we lost 6-0 didnt we?

  • RyanToon

    Mar 3, 2009 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #3

    oh soz we lost 5-1 at home i remember now

  • Macas35

    Mar 3, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #4

    Last season we had the Messiah in charge, who do we have now….

  • Toon Sweden77

    Mar 3, 2009 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #5

    Last year at this time we had Keegan and we were looking forward to a bright future!

  • Toon Sweden77

    Mar 3, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #6

    Macas you stole my words.. 🙂

  • Ashley Hole

    Mar 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #7

    Europe here we come!!!

  • bozo

    Mar 3, 2009 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #8

    This time last season we also had the best goal keeper in the league now we have a payment of 5.8 from the richest club in the world with the first installment due in the summer where is stardust now with his sound financial business.

  • workyticket

    Mar 3, 2009 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #9

    Toon Sweden77 // Mar 3, 2009 at 2:52 PM

    “Last year at this time we had Keegan and we were looking forward to a bright future!”

    Er yeah Toon Sweden, hence this article, “Newcastle Still Better Off Than Last Season”. 🙂

  • coyote

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #10

    I know MA wants to adhere to his business model and only pay for players upfront only trouble is we’re the only club in the world doing this and even the richest will not start paying for given until the summer.
    Where’s the sense in that?
    Prudence never saved a club from relegation and you could argue that speculation isn’t guaranteed to avoid relegation either……………but it sure as hell makes it easier!!!!

  • SpartanChris

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #11

    Whatever people’s thoughts are on Keegan since he left, and I’m p1ssed off with him for leaving us like he did, I know who I would rather have in the dressing room motivating the players at this particular time – and their name is not Joe, Chris or Colin.

  • Ashley Hole

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #12

    Rio Vidic

    Rooney Berbatov

    + few fresh player…do we have chance??….


  • NE3 NICK

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #13

    Ed, at this moment if u asked to me to put my own money on it I would say we are going down. If we don’t go down it will be by the skin of our nuts.

    So, I am not sure how u can reckon we are better off than last year in any shape or form!!!

  • geordie.In.Taipei

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #14

    Fog on the tyne is all mine , all mine, fog on the tyne is all mine. And pretty soon thats all we’ll see as leagues of men, women and children hurl themselves of the tyne bridge in a mass hysteria of depression…as we rocket down the premier league and out the trap door to the championship ! i sodding HATE MA, DL….and im really not too keen on Chris i want to make big dangly useless children with Ameobi Hughton “”!!!

  • Nobby_Long

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #15

    At this stage last season, Keegan was striving to find a way to play with the players he had – we all felt (at least I did) that the team was in a false position and we would find a way to get some results.

    This season, we still have Man Utd, Aresnal & Chelsea to play at home – we have a failed management team in place that is showing no signs of trying to find a way of playing to suit the players and seems incapable of changing things for the better during a game.

    If we are not in the bottom three after the Chelsea game it will be a total miracle. If we do end up there, then the pressure is going to be immense to win against the likes of Boro, Stoke & Portsmouth. I’m seriously worried – what on earth gives anyone any shred of comfort that the on-field or off-field teams can deliver – thye certainly haven’t so far.

  • murphy

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #16

    I’m off travelling the world in september for a year so if we do go down, by the time I get back me might be back in the prem anyways so i’ll miss our fizzy pop league days!

  • Kash

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #17

    We have to revert to the 4-3-3 which we played in the back end of last season. No bones about it, we don’t have the midfield to even attempt 4 across the middle.

    Play Viduka, Carrol and Oba up top with Jonas, Smith and Geremi in the middle!

  • DJG

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #18

    Yes Ed but last season there were the likes of Derby County. If we don’t go down it will be a miracle. Stoke and boro(2 points behind) have a game in hand, we have Man U.

    If this is what happens I will cry.

    16. Spurs

  • Kash

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #19

    REmember that Boro are playing in the last 5 games, US, West Ham, Villa, United and Arsenal!

    Unless they pick up points in the next 5 games, they’re down too!

  • xfer

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #20

    Not something im proud of, the goal difference.

  • Nick 69

    Mar 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #21

    we are nowhere near better off this season as all the teams around the bottom are also better off than they were and it is a lot lot tighter at the bottom, you may take comfort in knowing we are a few goals better off on GD ed but i myself certainly do not, and as other people have stated, we had just signed KK this time last season and were about to go on a very good run which we WILL NOT be doing with the current team and management.

  • Stardust

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #22

    We have been crippled far more than normal this year by injuries – yet the hissy fiters and knee jerkers simply panic – wheres your backbone fellas – far too many hollow legs and hearts the size of peas here.

    But if thats what it takes to finally get some of your to “really support” not notionally support – so be it.

  • DJG

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #23

    Whatever Ashley tries to do now ( if he does anything) it will be too little too late. Wonder what he will have to lower the season ticket prices to next season if we go down. At least we might get a season with a top 6 finnish! Although even that is questionable.

  • Dan_Scott157

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #24

    If we don’t go down this season then we will next. Relegation under an Ashley owned Newcastle is inevitable. You look at the trend pattern that has emerged and we are getting worse each season. The quality of the squad is getting worse as are those being put in to control it. The quote from Llambias justifying Kinnears 2 year contract still being on the table is ‘We like Joe, we trust Joe.’ What qualifies people to run the club now is not on ability but who they are pals with. Llambias, a casino owner, no qualifications but friendly with Ashley, Kinnear and Wise, both failures in previous positions they held but hey they are canny lads aren’t they Mike. It was only just over a year ago Allardyce was sacked when we were 9th, we would kill for that now. In the summer it will be two years since Ashley has owned the club and yet they will still blaming everything that happened at the club before them. They’ve already made it clear that there will be little money to spend in what will be a summer where we have to replace the bulk of our forward line. Players will be sold and replaced with those of poorer quality once again, mass desertion from the stands and apathy will kick in. We just have to hope that someone is just waiting for the outcome of this season before they decide on a takeover bid cos noting under this current board suggests anything but relegation somewhere down the line.

  • DJG

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #25

    Stardust you talk utter tripe mate. It has nothing to do with injuries. We had just as many last season. It is years of poor management and ‘big name signings’ who have no interest or motivation for success.

  • Stardust

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #26

    “DJG // Mar 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM

    Whatever Ashley tries to do now ( if he does anything) it will be too little too late. Wonder what he will have to lower the season ticket prices to next season if we go down. At least we might get a season with a top 6 finnish! Although even that is questionable.”

    That comment should appear alongside a wanted ad for “moral fibre.”

  • Stardust

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #27

    DLG – “tripe” where I come from must be called “succinct”

  • DJG

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #28


    I now genuinely think we will go down THIS season as will boro.

    Sunderland have spent and will stay, as will spurs, pompy, stoke, hull. It is completely depressing. We simply havnt put enough points on the board in the winnable games. Now we have hard games coming up and a caretaker manager of a caretaker manager.

  • DJG

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #29


    I won’t even reply to your silly comments.

    you are a moron.

  • neil

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #30

    What would be a fairer comparison is if you compared our results against the actual teams last season. That would be a realistic approach. For example we beat the filth 2-0 at home last year yet this year we only draw 1-1. That is us worse off if you catch my drift.

  • Dan_Scott157

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #31

    Does anyone know if this 5 year plan to be like Aston Villa that Llambias spoke of began when Ashley took over or when he decided to mention it. If it’s the first then we only have 3 and a half years left to wait or is he saying basically that there has been no plan in the last 18 months and Ashley has just bummed around in that time.

  • Nobby_Long

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM

    Comment #32

    Stardust –

    You just sit there & keep your fingers crossed then – or can you see something in the team that the rest of us mere mortals can’t ???

    Injuries have played a part in where we are – but we have been garbage. We have lost games we should have won.

    Why are we suddenly going to start winning????

  • UTD111

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #33

    Ashley’s chickens are coming home to roost. Early in the season he had to choose between his manager and some cross eyed cockney twerp who was universally hated in the game.

    He chose the twerp and lost a very good manager who had already achieved a draw at old trafford ( a game we should have won).

    Had he backed his manager – as he should have done, there is no way we would be in this mess.

    Businesses can succeed or fail on the management getting key decisions right – tough Ashley…… got this so badly wrong….

    Never mind, he’s good at selling t-shirts….

  • jim

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #34

    SpartanChris-i think ule be surprised if u ask keegan his first name lol 😉

  • Dan_Scott157

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #35


    Yeh you look at the teams in the bottom half that we’ve dropped points to and it’s frightning

    Man City: 5 points
    Sunderland: 5 points
    Blackburn: 6 points
    Hull: 3 points, 1 game to play
    Stoke: 2 points, 1 game to play
    Boro: 2 points, 1 game to play
    Bolton: 4 points.

    The only teams we haven’t dropped points to in the bottom half are WBA, Spurs and Portsmouth and we still have to play the last two again so theres plenty of time.

  • Dan_Scott157

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #36

    If you just look at our home games we have dropped 12 points against our relegation rivals.

  • Girth

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #37

    interesting twist on things Ed, but i think, as others have stated, there are several factors which will, and have, made this season more difficult than last!
    Personally, im happy with the players that we have – with the obvious exception we dont have enough quality AND depth – im happy at the board level and the people we have at the top but for me our biggest downfall, and may turn out to be our eventual undoing, ie relegation this season, is the shortcomings of the manager and coaching staff.
    Though this has been the case for the past few seasons, we have upped our game for the ‘big boys’. Any team who does that is an embarrassment in my opinion and only goes to show the lack of inspiration they are getting from the coaching team! If im right, then we saw the first example on sunday and we will see the second tomorrow!
    Therefore, im – optimistically – going for a draw!

  • bennytoon

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #38

    I wonder if the mindless minority that protested during games against Ashley regret there decision now. If they had not done that Ashley might have been more hands on and willing to spend money in the transfer window.

    By backing your spineless messiah you have contributed to the downfall of the club.

  • Dan_Scott157

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #39


    Can you tell me what happened in the transfer window prior to the protests. Ashley made a profit. That was not on the back of any protests or mass disruption. The causer of Ashley not spending money has got nothing to do with protests but his greed.

  • DJG

    Mar 3, 2009 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #40

    It is high time the Owens and Vidukas stood up and took responsibility. These ‘international’ players should be justifiying their huge wages by ensuring our survival. If we go down it will be on their CV aswell.

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