Newcastle United Relegation Watch – Not Good Reading


The results in last night’s games among relegation sides, didn’t go too well for Newcastle, as we went down to another home defeat at the hands of Manchester United.

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Here are the other results from some of last night’s games

Stoke City 2 Bolton 0
Wigan 1 West Ham 2
Man City 2 Aston Villa 0
Blackburn 0 Everton 0
Fulham 0 Hull 1
Spurs 4 Middlesbrough 0

Last night Stoke, Man City, Hull and Spurs all gained 3 point on Newcastle United and Blackburn gained another point, to go with their 3 they gained on us only last Sunday.

Stoke City actually beat Bolton 2-0, to go one point above Newcastle, and this after Bolton had managed to beat us at the Reebok on Sunday 1-0.

Wigan continue to lose, even though some fans up there are calling for Titus Bramble for England  –  give me a break, please.    But Wigan are still 7 points clear of Newcastle and that may be too far out, although we still have 30 points to play for.

Manchester City had an excellent win at home to Aston Villa, who are starting to slide and Arsenal will now probably catch them for 4th place,  if they continue the poor from they have shown of late. Manchester City are 7 points clear of Newcastle and seemingly pulling away from the relegation zone.

Blackburn drew 0-0 with Everton at Ewood Park to gain another point on the Magpies, that’s a full 4 points they’ve gained on us in the last two games, so everything now awaits our game at Hull City a week come Saturday, which is a MUST WIN game, to say the least.

And Hull City got their first win in a number of games last night, when Manucho scored in the very last minute at Craven Cottage against Fulham, to give them a 1-0 win and gain 3 points on Newcastle.   Hull will now presumably be full of confidence for Newcastle’s trip there in our next crucial game, a week on Saturday.  A defeat at Hull and we’ll be in serious trouble indeed.

Spurs were fresh from their Carling Cup loss to the Red Devils, and they just annihilated Middlesbrough 4-0 at White Hart Lane, to go 3 points clear of Newcastle and they have a game in hand.

Newcastle are now 5th bottom and just one point above the drop zone, and are right in the middle of relegation trouble, so we are starting to dig ourselves a rather big hole to climb out of.

And the really disappointing thing is that we have a mere 6 points from the last 10 league games we’ve played, in which we have the single win at WBA and 3 draws, and 6 defeats.

That looks too much like relegation form for our liking. and while the lads played much better last night against Manchester United, at the end of the day it was another 0 points and another home defeat, and another game gone by.

Unless we can start winning these games, where the result is now so much more important than the performances, then we could well see the ultimate happen, and we’ll go down this season, as unlikely as that may seem, even now, for some of us fans.

That’s not pessimism, it’s the reality we are in right now.

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40 comments so far

  • sahota

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #1

    Not sure how everyone is feeling. I can not wait for 9 days for HULL game. Its terrible terrible feeling about relegation. And the more we are moving towards end of league, the more realistic it seems that we will be relegated. I think if everyone puts same kind of effort as we did yesterday then who knows we might be safe. But just looks at how other teams have started picking up points. Only two teams at the moment seams worst than Newcastle and those are Middle Boro and West brom. Other than that, Stoke are very difficult team to beat at home. Blackburn have stopped conceding stupid goals. I think if newcastle has to survive we need to outperform Stoke or Balckburn. I think we just need to pick both these teams and always try to be above them in table, only that can make sure we will be safe.

    Help me by giving some hope that we will still be in PL next season. Its down time, just sitting in office and still thinking why we didn’t managed to get 1 point yesterday.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #2

    I was discussing relegation with the lad sitting next to me and we both think it is a possibility, not a reality as yet.

    This has got to be one of the darkest years I have know at NUFC.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #3

    We have flirted with relegation for a few seasons now so the likelihood is we will go down next this season.

    Mike gambled on 3 prem teams being worse than us and it is a gamble that he will loose.

    Spirited performance last night but sadly no points.

    : (

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #4

    My head hurts.

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  • Pons Aelius

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #5

    sahota – within the next few weeks our squad will be back to full strength. In Michael Owen, our captain, we have the most natural finisher in the league. Kev Nolan will give us the strength in the centre of the park that we’ve missed all season and will soon form a young and energetic midfield alongside Guthrie.. Our best player last season Habib Beye is also on his way back. Jonas is starting to shine again, Bassong is mint and Enrique is in the best form he’s ever been for the club.

    WERE STAYING UP!

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  • Pons Aelius

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #6

    I hope…

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #7

    Same old same old with the Toon all the youngsters on this site can’t remember much before 1992 when we were absolute sh*t. We have been in this position before it looks increasingly likely that we will go down. If that happens then the players must stick with the club and make sure we come straight back up. The owner must either plough lots of money in to the club or sell it to someone who can & will.
    Without a lot of investment we are f*cked

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  • bennytoon

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #8

    And you just know that at least one of those teams currently in the bottom 3 will go on an amazing run and pull clear as happens every season.

    We’ll meet again,dont know where,dont know when….

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #9

    where’s my post

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  • Howay50

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #10

    Toon Graeme, you think that this is a dark year for the Toon, I fear that next year could be worse. Players will leave and revenues will dip due to PL status lost and TV revenues etc. Will Ashley continue to have the stomach to put money into the club then, I doubt it. Its been comingt for some time as NUFC has believed its own hype that it deserves to be in the PL, the sad truth is that we might find ourselves at the lower end of the Championship this time next year, thinking to ourselves where did it go so wrong and how.

    Dark days indeed.

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  • sahota

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #11

    Pons Aelius – Thanks for giving that hope. Every little helps in this time. Its tough for every Newcastle fan. Just prayers can help us now with some good performances.

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  • Kash

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #12

    What we got last night was a good performance, which was well needed. If they can carry this onto the next 10 games, then I can see us staying up.

    Repeat performance against Hull and 3 points, and we’re well on our way. Anything less, then you can pretty much concede that we’ll be relegated!

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  • bennytoon

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #13

    sahota- if your turning to prayers and an imaginary god you really are clutching at straws.

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  • jamie

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #14

    wicked effort last night you have to give hte boys that, that will undoubtedlty win us games you ahve top remember we were playing hte world’s best team, effort like that we will devestate hull they wont know what hit them

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #15

    Bennytoon – were you at white hart lane last night to see first hand your victory over the smoggies – thanks by the way.

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  • Stardust

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #16

    10 Cup Finals before the seasons end – if we get 10 performances like last night we will be fine. A rollercoaster to the end – I just hope every fan puts 100% of their energy into the team – that they dont buckle and support support support – save any other feelings until after the fat lady is singing.

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  • Macas35

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #17

    A few points from last night. Would just like to give Hughton some praise for his team selection and the performance he got from the lads. He gets a lot of unfair criticism from people on here, yet most of the time he has had to select the team we have had horrendous injury problems and he hasn’t had many players to pick from. Also, regarding the second goal, yes it was a bad mistake from Ryan Taylor but what annoyed me the most was Coloccini’s response. He jogged back, half heartedly raised his hand, and only after that did he decide to make a real effort to stop Berbatov from scoring. Awful defending. Taylor I can forgive as everyone makes mistakes but that was just shocking as far as I’m concerned. The first goal was very similar to the one Bellamy scored against us recently, for which Steven Taylor received massive abuse on here, yet I dont see the same response against Coloccini. I dont want to knock him too much I just think it’s unfair that certain players get stick while others can get away with it. Here’s hoping he improves his game next season after he has had more time to adjust.

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  • Kash

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #18

    I still think that relegation is between Us, Hull, Portsmouth, Boro and Stoke.

    Stoke and Hull have games against all the relegation fodders, so its in their own hands!!!

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  • RyanToon

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #19

    who the hell do the sun think they are??

    saying taylor hit ronaldo in the side of the face!

    im sorry but he hit him in the shoulder and it was a yellow, not a RED, another other player from another team the sun would of backed and said ronaldo cheated but as it us they slaugter us!

    PATHETIC

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  • krism27

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #21

    The management team that we are left with is simply not good enough to keep us in this league. The tactics last night were woeful, and the amount of times we gave Rooney, Berbatov and Ronaldo space in key areas beggared belief. That can only be down to the coaching as we know we have a decent back four now.

    One thing that gave me a little heart was that when we passed the ball around we looked like a decent team, but we need to do this against lesser teams than Manure and the simple fact is that we haven’t done that against any of the bottom 8 or 9 teams.

    The signs ARE NOT good and I for one would like to see a change in management before it is too late. I just hope that Ashley sees last night for what it really was, one decent performance amongst an ocean of dire ones.

    Believe it or not, I trust Ashley to do the right thing.

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  • SpartanChris

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #22

    Couldn’t give a toss what the Sun says – its always full of crap.

    Keep the faith and stick together til the end of the season and we’ll stay up.

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  • bennytoon

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #23

    toon graeme- i was there for the second half only last night. to be fair the scoreline flattered spurs and boro actually played some good stuff. I dont think boro will get relegated.

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  • bennytoon

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #24

    i would love to know what hughtons managerial record looks like. he managed quite a few games for spurs when we were in between managers and i am sure he only won a single game and lost the rest.

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  • richyg01

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #25

    I was Amazed by the match last night, I expected a trouncing, to be honest, I would have taken that result before the match.

    Our biggest downfall was that results around us went against us.

    Hopefully MO is back for the Hull game and we will have 2 proper strikers upfront, we need to take the game to them.

    Much improved performance last night I must say, Manu didnt seem to have outclassed us as I expected. R.Taylor – WTF were you doing for the second goal? Train with Bassong, Not S.Taylor!

    Rooney’s goal was actually hand ball by S.Taylor

    I think the performance last night will have injected a bit more confidence in our players, and it was nice to see them playing together rather than as 11 individuals!

    Howay the lads.

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  • Cookerman

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #26

    we need nolan, owen, barton and beye back asap or were done for:

    beye coll basso enrique
    taylor nolan barton jonas
    owen martins

    we’d be ok with this for the last 10 games, or were doomed

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  • Ericles

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #27

    We should listen to Pons Aelius. Things look gloomier than they really are. With the returning players, and if we can perform like we did against Stretford United, we have every chance of a winning surge. That means every fan must get behind the players and coaches. Why be frightened of Chelsea or Arse and All? We weren’t scared last night. It can be and will be done. Howay the lads.

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  • shearerbliss

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #28

    Hate to say it but all this negitivity! WE are NOT going down! First of all Ed West Ham won 1-0 and dont be fooled these teams like blackburn stoke will have a puple patch but when you are s**t you are s**t.
    As NUFC fans we want to be excited living on the edge with our team, for the last few seasons our excitment has been around survile. So be it.
    As for Wigan don’t think about it they will stay up SB has too much fight in him. As for Bramble I do wonder how good he would be if he was next to Bassong (pace and power) fantastic combination so I would not down the man he has been playing great!
    I KNOW we will stay up this season so I am not part of this the world is over because we are hovering over the zone. NUFC can easly pull away from the bottom as (exeption of THFC) we are one of the strongest teams and squads in the bottom.

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  • SpartanChris

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #29

    The thing that gets me down is that both Blackburn and Portsmouth have one game in hand over us. We could be in the bottom three without kicking a ball.

    Its too late to be talking about a change in manager, I think our big players like our captain Owen and Nolan etc need to start motivating the rest of the players. To run onto the pitch knowing that Michael Owen is playing on your side should motivate everyone.

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  • Cookerman

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #30

    unlikely to get any points from arsenal or chelsea, leaves 9 points to play for at home, when we play against the lower teams at home they play alot different to manu. men behind the ball , give us possesion and then catch us on the break, worked many times this yr, and we are not able to break them down and keep a clean sheet. And winning away hasn;t happened more than 2-3 times a season the past few yrs so why will that change now? So we have to win 1 away and all 3 at home aginst the poorer teams, and no slipups…tough

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  • shearerbliss

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #31

    Spartan, agree it would not be good for the CV if Owen is the captian of a relegated side.

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  • richyg01

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #32

    Owen did a huge rallying cry yesterday and I think that that is what the players need to hear, as our captain he should be in that dressing room alongside Hughton, giving encouragement and support to the team.

    Same applies to Butt and Duff, we need the experienced lads to help the team, even when they are not on the pitch!

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  • richyg01

    Mar 5, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #33

    Team for Hull…

    Harper

    S.Taylor Collo Bass Enrique

    Geremi Smith Love Jonas

    Owen Martins

    Attack, Attack, Attack!!!

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  • Toon Sweden77

    Mar 5, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #34

    If we play like we did against Man United then we could actually get 1 or 2 points from the Arsenal and Chelsea games. We had 1 point yesterday until the mistake was made and United gained all 3 point and left us with nothing.

    And if we play like this against Hull, Stoke, Pompey, Sperms, Smogs and Fulham, there are alot of points to pick up. Its most up to Chris Hughton to inspire the team to give displays like yesterday for the rest of the season. Relegation is not an option, we will stay in the premierleague!

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  • sahota

    Mar 5, 2009 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #35

    Hey Benny Fool…its just belief I have. So if you want to pray nothing wrong in that. You don’t want to do that, its your choice. Do you think anything other than prayers will save Newcastle 🙂

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  • Sav

    Mar 5, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #36

    Last night’s result – a spirited defeat – was about as much as we could hope to take from the Champions elect. We are in good company – Every side has to play them twice and that’s us having taken our share of punishment.

    But we are in the pickle some have been pretending we weren’t for weeks. Ashley is a risk-taker and I hope his gamble to cut a profit from a thin squad pays off without resulting in relegation. Maybe this is how he likes to get his kicks. It isn’t a strategy for good football management. Still, too late to do anything about it until the summer when I hope he finds a buyer. Now all we can do is hang on.

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  • bennytoon

    Mar 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #37

    sahota- the only thing that will save you is if west ham get the points deducted for the tevez affair. And there is a very good chance that will happen. Only problem is they are quite a few points ahead of you so they might still have done enough.

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  • Widowmaker

    Mar 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #38

    It’s simply crazy to say that Taylor is less guilty than Colo for the goal.

    Colo was clearly looking for someone.

    Was it because there should be another guy marking Berba? You can’t blame a player just because he reads the game better and is closer to the opposition.

    Colo was blamed by some for the Rooney goal and some others for the Berba goal.

    Utter crazy.

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  • jj

    Mar 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #39

    what is black and white and keeps going down? Newcastle united

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  • Macas35

    Mar 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #40

    It was shocking defending from both Taylor and Coloccini for the second goal in my opinion, but the first goal was just good play from Rooney.

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