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• 1 Toon Graeme // Mar 10, 2009 at 1:38 PM

  There is a good comment in the full chronicle article about the performance on the pitch and that being a reason as to why people might not want to continue, just like any other business’s product.

  I thought that was a good point.

  Aye its been a right crap season and lets hope it gets better before the end of the season.

• 2 batty // Mar 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

  yeah one big mistake ashley not selling the club

• 3 Gilly // Mar 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM

  He should go on Mastermind – specialist subject stating the bleeding obvious

• 4 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

  batty

  youre forgetting the 1 where he didnt tell kk or the fans who had final say over transfers

  then tried to turn it round on to kk in the infamous”fact statement” claiming that kk knew he would have to report to a DOF

  there fore hinting that kk knew he had final say but if kk knew this then why did wise say on the official site that kk would have final say

• 5 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

  ed i wish my wife would appreciate the economic climate has changed considerably , but she just wont compromise…spend..spend ..spent

• 6 batty // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:02 PM

  beye they made that many i forgot aboot that one m8

• 7 BILLY - B // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:11 PM

  He is just repeating what has already been said what everyone knows that supposed profesional buisness men made a right arse of it then tried to blame everyone else.I dont believe a word they say they always dangle the carrott of money will be made available for the next window then nothing happens except one or two of our better players will go then on the last day we may get a team player or two

• 8 vivadavidkelly // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM

  batty you are like a broken record – you dont like ashley we get it!!!!

• 9 mcvicar // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:18 PM

  i cant get away with anything laimbias says i just know he dosent care about the fans he just thinks about money and the statment he made about punching kk in the face was unreal i dont trust him are ashley and never have and its gonna take some work by these two before i do trust them but the main thing is the team so if we stay up and theres some good players come in i will be happy enough

• 10 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:19 PM

  This will show how fickle the fans are – they will complan at the offer – which is totally fair.

  They can get out of their contracts but pay the money they owe – but NUSC are already making an issue saying that its unfair – that the clubs in turmoil etc.

  I applaud the club for allowing people to walk away from a contract in times of hardship. NUSC etc will paint it another way.

• 11 vivadavidkelly // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM

  agreed stardust

• 12 vivadavidkelly // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM

  they could have easily not offered the cancellation of the direct debits therefore making alot more money

• 13 sahota // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

  I hope we survive this season and I hope these guys spend some money and buy some decent players. Only that can give fans some assurance. Also please stop talking about ASHLEY OUT, that won’t happen. So don’t waste your time and energy saying it.

• 14 batty // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:45 PM

  vivadavidkelly so i take your in love with him ASHLEY OUT AND IT WILL HAPPEN

• 15 Shot Bru // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM

  That seems a fairly decent compromise. Stardust i have read a lot of your posts with interest and amusement, you seem an intelligent bloke, like Ashley is. I have nothing against the man and actually think he will turn out to be exactly what we need, an owner who is determined to build foundations etc. Answer me this, why if Ashley has ploughed 1/4 of a billion pounds of his own money into NUFC does he place this investment in the hands of a man like Joe Kinnear, who has just had a triple heart bypass, who is medically unfit to attend work, who hasn’t been in the game for years and has never won a major trophy as a manager and won less than 25% of his PL games in charge of the toon resulting in us teetering on relegation.

• 16 stevep // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM

  Just read that Arse may bid for Bassong in the summer – did he ever sign that contract extension?

• 17 Alanmc09 // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:54 PM

  Steve-no not yet and i also think if we were to go down bassong would defo leave us!!
  Saying that,if we stay up and arsenal come knocking i cant see a frenchman turning down arsenal!

• 18 geordie jock // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:55 PM

  Bloody hell Ed have you been on the happy baccy, hoping for the best transfer season for many a year. Is this Ashleys lot you expect to spend a lot of money and actually buy some decent players, you better give me a drag too cos i don’t think its going to happen. Oh and by the way sahota Ashley out.

• 19 Macas35 // Mar 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM

  Its rare that I agree with Stardust about Ashley and co but I can’t see the problem in this. Fans bought the tickets for 3 years at a special rate, its only fair that they pay back the difference if they cancel. Well done to the club for allowing this, although I suspect they are being diplomatic and want to try and keep the fans on their side. I imagine a few of those who cancel will end up buying a ticket for next year anyway if we stop up!

• 20 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:03 PM

  Shot Bru – I think

  “Answer me this, why if Ashley has ploughed 1/4 of a billion pounds of his own money into NUFC does he place this investment in the hands of a man like Joe Kinnear, who has just had a triple heart bypass, who is medically unfit to attend work, who hasn’t been in the game for years and has never won a major trophy as a manager and won less than 25% of his PL games in charge of the toon resulting in us teetering on relegation”

  Has a very simplistic easy answer. Ashley feels like he owes Joe. Joe jumped into the trenches with Mike when everyone in the world (without any real knowledge) was turning on the club, throwing bombs at them, and demonstrating everywhere.

  The fans made Joe the manager – as noone else would touch us. Thats the grim reality.

  Joe on seeing the opportunity jumped into the trenches, put the club, the fans, the player, his health – all on his back and carried everyone – to his eventual detriment.

  Ashley knows Joe took everything throw at him and the club and fought like hell for him. I believe Ashley is a good man – and bonds made in battle when fighting shoulder to shoulder are tough to break.

  Ashley feels beholding to Joe. I admire that – do I think its the right thing to do – I am 50/50 but I prefer a world of loyalty longtermism and reality than perpetually changing minds in light of circumstance at a particular time.

  The players seem motivated at times, and I actually think that Joes illness would motivate me after what he had put himself through.

• 21 RichY // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:06 PM

  Mistakes have been made…

  biggest understatement of the season…

• 22 Bill F // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:13 PM

  Being a Toon exile and not being able to go to live games anymore, I don’t buy tickets of any type. But I was under the impression that there was a waiting list for season tickets. Therefore cancelling them is a bit of cutting ones nose off etc. despite the crap season/s we are having I believe most fans will stay loyal and can’t see too many taking the offer up.

• 23 Shot Bru // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM

  Cheers Stardust, honest and forthright as usual. To me it seems like Ashley would do himself no harm in appointing a respected football man to advise on affairs regarding players and management at the club from board room level, and preferably someone who isn’t just a mate of his. Ray Ranson’s name was mentioned a few weeks ago for just that type of position at the club.

• 24 Graeme // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:25 PM

  The whole MA ownership has been a mistake from day one!!

  Buying or investing in anything at that magnitude of investment demands “due diligence”! Did MA do it? NO

  Having taken on BSA as the incumbent manager, promising to stick with him, he sacked Sam. Did MA have any sort of back up plan in place? NO

  Having promised the fans that he was in this for the long term and intended to invest in the playing staff. Did he do it? NO

  To bail himself out with the fans, he convinced KK to take over and he would have final say on any player coming in, or going out. Did it happen? NO

  Have we seen a substantial increae in either the numbers, or quality of the playing staff?? NO

  Its a complete litany of failure on behalf of MA and his cronies. Can it be turned around? Of course it can, but its going to take a substantial financial input. If we go down I dont think MA has the financial stability to be able to get us back in the Premier League for quite a period of time, probably 5 years.

  I consider that a total failure. Every failure above has had a dramatic negative effect on the club, the players, the fans to the point we are now teetering on the brink of relegation with a rudderless ship and the helmsman on sick leave and the backup clueless what to do!!!

  A sad state of affairs that is NUFC today!!! Thanks Mike Ashley.

• 25 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

  stardust, those bonds you refer to should be put to one side at the end of the season, they should not cloud the issue of wether joe is the person who is best to move us foward , for what its worth i would go for someone of the modern era

• 26 vivadavidkelly // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:28 PM

  batty – i am yet to read an intellegent comment from you so i am guessing your still at school?

  anyway i am not for or against ashley but i would defo say he has done more good than bad. his biggest mistake wasnt kk but failing to do due dillegence on the club, which we all know now.

  the current regime are still plugging the millions of holes left by freddie – it is blatent. and anyone who cannot see this is living on another panet. shepherd is no more than a crook and his years of mis managment akmost brought the club to its knees, and certainly would have, if we had not been taken over. ashley must lookm at the whole situation and think – “i have pumped in well over 200 mill and what do i get? a load of w**kers slagging me off every day” no wonder there are no funds for players.ask yourself this… when FFS signed Owen, Luque, Martins etc. where was that money coming from? certainly not freddies fat wallet. it was all take take take with him. he didnt give 2 hoots about the club and whatever your opinions of the regime today, we should all at least be thankful for the fact that they have put the money in which they have.

• 27 Gilly // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:30 PM

  Stardust, I know that you are speaking metaphorically `fighting shoulder to shoulder’ but I do not agree.
  MA for all of his club failings and is an astute businessman, JK is here because no one else would/will come; as soon as that changes (when we stay up) I for one still harbour hope it changes.

• 28 vivadavidkelly // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

  I think you will find JFK is here because he is by far the cheapest option. He woould be on no more than 500k a year, whereas someone like a steve bruce would command at least 3 mill. there lies the only reason NUFC will be keen to keep Kinnear on board

• 29 Bill F // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:42 PM

  I believe that Joe is already talking up his wages if he stays on, I’d be surprised if he does though.

• 30 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:52 PM

  stardust

  OMG i never thought i would say this but i agree with you stardust that is exactly the reason MA offered jfk a contract and i dont blame him ok jfk hasnt done the best job but if youre in MA’S posistion and some1 has helped you out in your time of need you arent going to say thanks but no thanks and i personally do feel we owe joe something

• 31 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM

  beye , i dont think we should be handing out favours to anyone , jk is getting a salary for acting as our manager and thanks to him for it ,but come the end of the season i think its time to move on.

• 32 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:03 PM

  gd point komfort but i feel we owe him something and you never know with a settled squad he might do a lot better(that is if we can get 1)

• 33 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM

  bye, scout !

• 34 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:09 PM

  komfort i think he is interested in being a manager

• 35 Don // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM

  What I cant understand is how Ashley actually made his Billions, if he sticks with incompetents just because theyre a good bloke.
  Well I suppose I do really, hes a gambler who takes chances.
  At the moment hes gambling with our Club and Llambias, Wise and JFK.
  the trouble is I can see us being the losers out of all this.

• 36 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:17 PM

  bye , it would be interesting to see him manage the team without all this turmoil going on then judge him that way , not sure wether it would be much better tho.

• 37 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:18 PM

  er thats beye ,soz

• 38 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM

  Gilly – I agree that no one else would come – the – and I use the term loosely “fans” made us unmanageable and from a great attractive club to a football club in a mad house. I stand by that. I always advocate reality and circumstance. The reality is Joe would never have been in a million years first choice.

  But the same fans now complaining Joe is here are the ones who were demo’ing and preventing a good appointment – how ironic!

  Again all you are seeing is that Mike Ashley is a good and loyal man -but the witch hunters dont want to hear that at all – shame really theyre so busy hating everything – they just dont realise how lucky we are.

• 39 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:35 PM

  Don

  The very best businesses in the world have “enduring principles” they get the right people on board and stick with them – always through thick and thin.

  They are the enduring businesses – not the peak pror record low the next as they put long term growth at the heart of the rationale. They make babysteps – its called the flywheel effect – keep pushing – small steps – then one day the flywheel – a la Man U – has all the momentum and turns itself. Exact same thing is happening at Newcastle – stick with it – its a good thing

• 40 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM

  stardust

  i disagree managers didnt turn us down because of that they turned us down coz at the time MA couldnt give them a full time contract

• 41 batty // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM

  HAVE club ever said that they tryed to get any one else apart from joe?

• 42 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

  Komfort – I feel if that decision is made – that it will be a mutual one between Mike and Joe – Joe might just be the football man that Shot Bru refers to – but again – I fear with the locals this is a mistake – it would be seen by the Mob as Ashley strengthening the “Cockerneeee” position. Sometimes we up here really know how to make ourselves look like rednecks.

• 43 Ericles // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

  The whole point of admitting to mistakes is not to make the same ones again. Admitting to errors is surely to correct them? The greatest mistake was the cheap way KK was treated. Is Llambias admitting he himself was a mistake? Is Ashley admitting that the appointment of Dennis Wise is a mistake? Keegan’s recruitment of Bassong was a brilliant stroke and not a mistake.

• 44 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM

  batty
  micky quinn wreckoned we tried for 17 managers

• 45 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM

  Yes but what were the reasons for that Beye – just think – if KK had walked – we had said oh there he goes again – no drama – the football world would have said – thats Kevin Keegan for you and another manager would have came in no bother at all.

  The reason folks dont like to admit that noone would come for any other reason is because the Mob were to blame for no one else coming.

• 46 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM

  stardust

  actually stardust i disagree again i watched soccer saturday and i was fuming at what they were saying about ma they were claiming that kk and curbs were being badly treated and they were just yes men (this was pre keegan walk put) and like i said we wouldnt have got 1coz at the time ma couldnt offer any 1 a longterm contract el tel would have came but he wanted longer

• 47 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM

  Ericles – Wise was a mistake only because of the small minded mentality of our “fans” the reality is he hasnt done a bad job.

  also “The greatest mistake was the cheap way KK was treated.”

  You could equally argue that KK has done more damage to this club this decade than any other man. (accepted he did more good in the 90′s)

• 48 Don // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM

  Stardust I think thats mainly where we differ, because I really dont think that Llambias, Wise and JK are the right people to have on board. but time will tell.

• 49 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 4:52 PM

  Don – we dont differ – I accept they are the wrong people “for this area” not for any other reason than geordie prejudice.

  I dont accept they have done a great deal wrong though – not for the slating and hating they get.

  That same geordie prejudice we hold let FFS play the pipers tune and strip the clubs past present and future into his own grubby pockets.

  We are stable, moving forward and I see real progress irrespective of our current league position. I believe.

• 50 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:02 PM

  stardust , i think if a half decent offer comes in for the club ash will snatch their hands off in a flash , i’m not sure he even thinks he can turn carcrash united around without the fans behind him..out i think is his preferred option me thinks

• 51 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:05 PM

  Don got to say though JK wouldnt be my first choice, I just think – the Mob action then consequence – means we have him – like it nor not!

• 52 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:11 PM

  stardust i know what you are saying and i am sick of “the mob” too but i am talking abouth “the mob” that bood sir bobby bood glenn roeder bood fat sam and the same 1 that bood alan smith but “the mob” were right to be angry on this 1

• 53 Don // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:17 PM

  Stardust
  I can honestly say that there is no Geordie prejudice towards them as far as Im concerned. Im probably more cockney than they are.
  Im now 52 when I was a kid for some strange reason I picked Newcastle to follow (I suppose I must have done something bad in a previous life). The worse of it is that Ive encouraged my boys to follow them, which could probably be put down as some kind of child abuse, probably mental torture.

• 54 sirjasontoon // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM

  Guys I think Benny toon lost the plot on the huddlestone thread take a look.

  Weird.

• 55 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:22 PM

  Beye – I think the anger is misplaced – the Mob were basically made a fool out of by FFS – he removed everythng from their clubs past present and future. BUT they supported it totally – they let him take everything from the club without so much as a peep – as he knew their mentality.

  He gave them “laughably trophy signings” that were never paid for (even then his spend was 10mill per year – far lower than Ashley)

  Then the New Billionaire arrived to great salvation – he got rid of boring Sam and brought back the messiah.

  The expectations rose that the good times were here again, Ashley was losing money and then disaster KK walks. As workyticket once said – it ws thePerfect Storm.

  The Mob react grieving for their King – when the real blame lay in my opinion at

  1. KKs door for walking – he should have accepted changing circumstacnes if he loved us.
  2. The Mob for forming opinions about Ashley profit taking – bleeding us dry etc and for turning us around the world into the most unstable football club imaginable.

  Mike Ashley did not make this club a laughing stock – the fans did. I am one of them irrespective of my opposing views to the Mob.

  We will only we great if our energy is channeled for the good of the club with a long term vision – we have to help rebuild our club as much as Mike Ashley.

• 56 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:23 PM

  Don Lol – “The worse of it is that Ive encouraged my boys to follow them, which could probably be put down as some kind of child abuse, probably mental torture”

  Do you think this blog is really a dear Deardrie for bloggers lol

• 57 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:33 PM

  stardust

  ma should be blamed for kk walking look at the facts ma lied

• 58 Bill F // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:41 PM

  Oh by the way, I am a another year older today and still awaiting the Toon rennaisance. Soon I hope before the great ref in the sky blows the final whistle.

• 59 Geordiedoonsooth // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:47 PM

  Just been reading all this crap about Bassong. What is it with these French gits they come here have a decent season or two. think they are better than they really are & try & get a transfer to a southern club. Also he’s on a 3 year contract so make him stay. I hope we don’t sign any more frogs they really p*ss me off.

• 60 batty // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM

  BILL F happy bday m8 how old are u m8 if you dont mind me asking

• 61 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM

  “beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 5:33 PM

  stardust

  ma should be blamed for kk walking look at the facts ma lied”

  Beye – the assumption MA lied is simply that an assumtion with not one piece of evidence to support it.

• 62 Doocey // Mar 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM

  Keegan walked out! He wasn’t sacked!

  He left on his own will and turned his back on us.
  Point taken he was perhaps left with no choice but you’d think he’d leave at a better time, ie the end of the season and reveal all!

• 63 simon376 // Mar 10, 2009 at 6:48 PM

  Only going say one thing quick as I’m about to go out for a bit, but I’m fully behind Keegan for what he did, I once walked from a company because of the way thing were and didn’t think the boss had a clue. As it happens the boss got sacked 6 weeks later. Mind you, would think twice about doing it now when you look at the current climate.

  I’m not an Ashley fan at all, but I really can’t say if he lied or not. I no he’s trying to keep the club solvent and thats a good thing really, but I do think he’s taken a big gamble by not trying to improve a weak squad when we should have got more in from the last few windows and also not trying to get some kind of advisor or another post in to cover while Joe is on sick leave. I think something should be done for Joe, offer him something in the club, but I do think we need another manager in. Maybe give him the DoF role if Wise goes and we have to stick with that set up.

• 64 Alanmc09 // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:06 PM

  Spot on doocey!
  He holds some of the blame 4 our current situation!!
  Fair enough,ashley and da rest of those pr**ks should have given him control,but keegan shouldnt have gave him his way,but he ran like the english out of the hills of ireland!!

• 65 Stardust // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:09 PM

  Simon I dont think you would have walked so lightly if you were (a)being paid 3.0m a year to run a company you were passionate about or loved – especially if you were skint as reported.

  and (b) several hundred thousand people werent crushed by your walking and the very thing you “loved” nearly decimated

  (or are you KK in disguise lol)

• 66 jonny // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:23 PM

  yeah good one llambias.

  dont believe a word he says and never will.

• 67 jonny // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:24 PM

  and simon 376 agree completely.

  keegan was sold something that turned out to be completely different from the job description. id resign if i was in his position anyday – people say he let us down but i bet most people would do what he did.

• 68 Bill F // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:33 PM

  Cheers Batty, 66, I started going to St. James park when I was about 12 Just after our golden years. Still waiting and hoping!

• 69 Doocey // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:36 PM

  “”"”"but he ran like the english out of the hills of ireland!!”"”"

  Haha what a line Alan, not a place for it but very funny all the same lol

• 70 marshy // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:42 PM

  stardust are you ma or llambias in disguise,you remind me very much of my wife,she also loves to argue even when she knows she is wrong,and there is no one more wrong than you. we are being run by a bunch of amateurs.admittedly our long term future looks good but that depends on the short term.do you think our promising youngsters will stay when we fall thru’ the championship into beyond?

• 71 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:44 PM

  bill f , happy birthday young man , you still chasing the girlies round

• 72 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:46 PM

  aye marshy , see you suffer the same prob as me…wife..cant bloody win sometimes

• 73 Alanmc09 // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:47 PM

  Sorry doocey:-D:-D
  Got a bit carried away dere!!haha

• 74 Doocey // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM

  Opera Mini yeah Alan? haha

• 75 stu // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:58 PM

  Stardust – I agree with the majority of your points but I just have one question, do you honestly see a positive future with MA in charge.

  My opinion is that MA has been a blessing for the club, the financial predicament he inherited was a disaster and as he has taken action to eleviate this – that can only be a positive. He seems to be immplementing a solid base from which the club will be able to expand both on and off the pitch. My belief is that his biggest asset would be exploting the marketing and commercial opportunities but the previous agreements have meant that his hands are tied.

  In my opinion, there are a number of fundamental flaws in a substantial number of NUFC supporters arguments against the board. The real quotes that have been directly attributed to MA have been supported in the independent financial audit of the holding company. (themost reliable source of information more so than any newspaper or online article) In addition, the number of parallels that have been made between KK and a real life organisation have been unsupported. There are no organisations worldwide that would allow one individual who is not the owner to dictate all matters concerning the running of the organisation.

  However, like all businesses success and failure will be dictated by the relationship with their customers.Given the resentment towards the current board there is very little chabce that they will ever be successful. The only thing that will appease supporters of NUFC is if the results on the field are see us challenging for Europe. As this is not the case and will probably not be the case for a long time the current feeling amongst the fans will continue to manifest and grow before making their tenure unfeasable. They will not be able to run the club without the support of the fans and this will not change anytime soon, therefore, I dont know how you can see a positive future.

• 76 Bill F // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM

  Cheers Komfort, naah my missus is enough for me. I still like to look though. And I am still very active, if you know what I mean.

• 77 Slam magd // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM

  The biggest enemy to nufc is the fans. I have my fair share of soccer heroes but the blind fanatism towards Keegan is appalling! If he loved the team so much, y did he walk out? Y is he tryin to milk his beloved newcastle off 9 million quid? If keegan had his wish in the summer we would have bought hyppia,dunne and heskey! They would have been overaged,overpriced and overpaid and yet he quit koz he wasnt allowed to sign these over the hill players! I appreaciate the vision MA has for nufc and i truly hate the one sided crap found on this forum.

• 78 Alanmc09 // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:11 PM

  Haha,oh yeah!!!
  I will be watchin da toon game at my mates house dis weekend,wit dm links!!
  Da days of me ringing u piss1n u off cud wel b ova!!BERBATOV-very sad times by the chineese!!

• 79 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:11 PM

  bill f , keep it up if you what i mean…enjoy.

• 80 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM

  know

• 81 Alanmc09 // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM

  Spot on-slam magd

• 82 NE3 NICK // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM

  Interesting and well thought out arguments by the sometimes condescending and bombastic Stardust!

  Out of interest, how many bloggers are A. season ticket holders and B. gonna renew next season whatever?????

  I answer “yes” to both, but I fear I may be in the minority…

• 83 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:25 PM

  a-yes & b-unsure

• 84 komfort // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:28 PM

  and just ignore starust , he’s a trouble maker…stirr

• 85 vic // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:34 PM

  COCKNEY MAFIA OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

• 86 Dragonera // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:39 PM

  KK is a coward and only came back for the cash. Forget about him.

• 87 simon376 // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM

  Yes got a season ticket and now paying for next season.

  If I do feel strongly about something, I act on it, so no matter what I was being paid or however many people were behind me I would still walk, as I said my only stopping point now would be the job market.

  Yes I’m a Keegan fan, but to be honest I don’t care who is manager as long as they pick the best team they can and try to play decent football. Same goes for the owner of the club, don’t care who as long as they are prepared to back the club and to do it in a time of need

• 88 Turkish Magpie // Mar 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM

  Because of the previous convo my hatrid for spurs has grown so i have decided to make a joke up off the top of my head

  my teacher told me to go away and ask my family 5 words to describe SPURS and then look at the first letter of each word

  i went to ask my family they said

  Dad- Sh*t
  Mum- Poop
  Sister- Ugly
  Bro- Ret*rds
  Gran- SuperDuper

  I went back and told her the answers and she immediately said well done Turkish Mag, 4 right

  i said which 1’s wrong?

  she said the last 1

  i said oh why?

  because thats the complete opposite to what spurs are

  i said, oh i know maybe my Gran didnt hear the question i’ll ask her tomorrow

  so i went back and asked her again she said “oh that was what i said but you left before i finished i was going to say SuperDuper…….Scumbags

  5 out of 5

• 89 Rodzilla // Mar 10, 2009 at 9:01 PM

  I’m sort of on the fence a bit with KK actually. I reckon he jumped at the chance to manage us the second time around because the financial package offered was extremely attractive, and it’d give him the opportunity to tend to ‘unfinished business’ with the potential of achieving glory for NUFC, and himself – which is fair doos I guess.

  However, I also think that once he realised the direction we were heading with the squad we had – post transfer window, due to injuries, with maybe or maybe not contract breaches, he had a reality check (like we all did) and got the fk out before the proverbial hit the fan. I’ll be interested to hear what actually went on – once all their legal sh1t is sorted out.

• 90 Stuart79 // Mar 10, 2009 at 9:06 PM

  NUSC are really starting to get on my t1ts!

  Why can’t they try and help the club by sayig something positive for once?

  I know things aren’t great at the minute but blood hell!

  I’m pretty distgusted at the way the club has fell from grace in the last couple of years but ‘ve got my ticket for three years and will honour that agreement. My not go as often but my money will have still gone to the club.

  Some fans understandably need to see some investment and improvement in the team though! I agree!

• 91 bobby_ollox // Mar 10, 2009 at 9:29 PM

  @Turkish Magpie

  We have had some really funny quotes on this blog, but I have to say that is not one of them.

  All I can say is that I am glad the joke wasnt about Sunderland Association Football club, otherwise we would have been here all night….

• 92 Rodzilla // Mar 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM

  bobby_ollox

  …boom boom.

  WAHEYYY!

• 93 Turkish Magpie // Mar 10, 2009 at 9:39 PM

  i know, i just needed to let out all of my hatrid for spurs even if it wasnt funny

  but i am actually quite a funny guy

• 94 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 9:46 PM

  did any 1 see tha panithanaikos banner which said cockneys

  i thought it was a bit random

• 95 Rodzilla // Mar 10, 2009 at 9:51 PM

  …I didn’t Beye. It wouldn’t have been as random as a banner with “marmosets” on it though.

  …and yeah, sorry Turkish, the spurs hatred bit got most of the points there mate ;D
  Fair play though.

• 96 Rodzilla // Mar 10, 2009 at 9:53 PM

  …P.S. Beye (unless it was being held by marmosets of course)

• 97 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 9:58 PM

  lol but wouldnt you say marmosets fanbase of pana or something along them lines not just marmosets as it i s just random

• 98 Rodzilla // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:06 PM

  I spose Beye, yeah, message received.
  …if I was a Marmoset and i went to a Panathanaikos game with my Panathanaikos-supporting Marmoset mates with a banner – I’d definately want to draw the attention to the fact that I was passionate about my club, and not my breed – as that would be plain obvious and otherwise silly.

• 99 bobby_ollox // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:07 PM

  OK Turkish Magpie – heres a real joke.

  Things were a bit tight injury wise before the match, and Mike Ashley popped down to the changing room to inspect the troops. He was shocked to find the walls covered in blood, and body parts all over the floor. JFK was there with a blood covered apron on, stitching limbs together and doing the full Dr Frankenstein thing. ” Dont worry Mike, I’ll explain later – just trust me”.
  Reluctantly Mike takes his seat and is surprised when only two Newcastle players take to the field. From the kick-off one of the players gets possession, dribbles round 3 defenders and scores with a blistering shot from 25 yards, curling into the top corner. The other player runs around in circles in his own half tripping over his bootlaces. This continues throughout the match, and Newcastle eventually win 6-0, all scored by the one player. The other player never got a touch all match and had to be taken off injured after 30 minutes.

  After the match, Mike goes down to see JFK, and says “Bl**dy H*ll Joe, that was amazing – who was that player ?”

  JFK tells him “Its an idea I picked up in hospital boss – we had so many injuries, I took the best bits I could find from all the injured players and put them together to make that super player – thats Michael Owens right leg, Jonas left leg, Bassongs head, Enriques thighs, Duffs body, and Nolans footballing brain. ”

  “Fantastic idea” says Mike” I suppose that other player was all you could put together out of the other bits left over was it ?”

  “No” says JFK, ” That was Shola Ameobi”

• 100 beyethegreat // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:11 PM

  bobby

  lol

• 101 batty // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:15 PM

  http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1585933,00.html

• 102 Rodzilla // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:20 PM

  Let’s hope to fu<k that’s not an omen batty eh?

• 103 Rodzilla // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM

  …and fair credit to the joke bobby. If you made that up on the spot you get 10 points, although you’d also warrant a cool 5 just for remembering it – with automatic +1 for appropriateness and +2 for delivery. Unless of course it was copied and pasted, in which case that’s an instant -2

• 104 Alanmc09 // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:31 PM

  Hahaha bobby fair play!

• 105 Rodzilla // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:38 PM

  …on reflection, I’m sure my joke point-structure is flawed. (and why the fk am I even bothering to work one out?!)

  Been a long day…….

• 106 bobby_ollox // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:41 PM

  thanks Rod – I cant say that I made it up on the spot, but I did have to dredge it up. It was quite hard to think of bodyparts from the current crop that would make a super player. ( think Les Ferdinands neck, Shearers right leg, Ginola’s left, beardsleys brain etc)

  Mind you the Shola Ameobi part was a shoe in.

  8/10 thanks

• 107 Rodzilla // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:47 PM

  …ahh, indeed.

  I see you never game him S. Taylor’s Arms and Ryan’s chest then!

  Colo’s hair may’ve been a fair addition though.

• 108 bobby_ollox // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:54 PM

  lol @ colo’s hair – maybe JFKs chest ? Ashleys wallet ? Llambias’s glasses ? Wise’s platforms ?

• 109 sirjasontoon // Mar 10, 2009 at 10:57 PM

  Great Gag off to kip laughing : )

• 110 IrishMan // Mar 10, 2009 at 11:20 PM

  Add Oba’s thighs (for somersaults) and Jonas’s mask. Hopefully we will see both of those very soon, or we will be carrying body off in a coffin for a coca-cola.

• 111 chuck // Mar 11, 2009 at 12:35 AM

  Is this guy for real ? ” Mistakes have been made ”
  Understatement of the year.
  Actually HE is the biggest mistake the club has made.
  Just what gives him or Ashley the idea that either one knows squat about running a football club.
  If you dont believe it , just look at where their efforts have landed us, be very surprised if we survive relegation.
  Another fine mess you got us into Ollie !

• 112 chuck // Mar 11, 2009 at 12:41 AM

  Stardust
  You are such an egotistical windbag, give it a rest !

• 113 Sav // Mar 11, 2009 at 1:58 AM

  Oh I see now – the reason no manager would touch us after Keegan left was because of us FANS. Right.

  Sawdust, you’re not that stupid.

  Are you?

  Do we have dig up the fact for you all over again? The Wenger and Ferguson quotes, all the rest of it? You insist on rewriting history to suit your Ashley agenda over and over. Maybe you’re just a mackem with too much spare time, having a laugh but I’m getting fed up having to correct your inaccuracies.

  The reason managers (except Joe) would not touch us with a long pole is because of your beloved fatboy and his dislocated mob.
  In fact, universally the revenue stream and enthusiasm of 52000 fans is seen as the club’s greatest asset. In fact, they wouldn’t touch us for the same reason Shay Given just left and that has nowt to do with NUSC, the attention-seeking kids on Sky TV or any bedsheet parade.
  Just the owner and the personnel and roles he has appointed.

  Dare I cynically suggest that it looks a lot better to be offering to cancel those 3-season contracts now and blame the credit crunch than to face the embarrassment of doing so when we are relegated and fans are rightly angry at paying Premiership prices for Championship football?

  Can we look forward to Sawdust blaming the fans plus Stephen Taylor for that disastrous humiliation, too?

• 114 Don // Mar 11, 2009 at 7:16 AM

  I wonder what Mistakes he thinks theyve made, I would be very surprised if they are the same as the mistake we think theyve made.

• 115 Nick D // Mar 11, 2009 at 8:24 AM

  I think the bottom line is that we as fans are all very depessed which in turn is manifesting in to apathy and complacency.

  If the level of the board’s ambition is looking forward to the return of Kinnear, then we have to pray for a takeover in the summer as season ticket sales will hit an all time low.

• 116 bennytoon // Mar 11, 2009 at 8:31 AM

  Turkish mag- Stick to making kebabs as comedy isnt your thing.

• 117 Stardust // Mar 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM

  “stu // Mar 10, 2009 at 7:58 PM

  Stardust – I agree with the majority of your points but I just have one question, do you honestly see a positive future with MA in charge.”

  Stu ironically I think our brightest days will be under Ashley IF he is given the chance. Though I cant argue with what you say……..

  I actually feel – that this period could be the making of us, fans expectations and understanding is being realigned in a new reality. Clubs like Liverpool and Man U are in a perilous state, bought in leveraged buy outs that makes their future brittle (I expect a backlash from those who dont understand financial markets there)

  But I believe this period will be seen in time to be good for the club. I call it shaking the monkeys from the tree.

  For many years Shepherd knew how to court these monkeys, he knew how to keep them happy, he knew what made them tick and he played them while stripping us bare – a fact I was all to aware of at the time – that means that many of these “fans” have been brought up with a certain mentality and expectation of how things are done, (trophy signings, never paid for, ridiculous wages – nothing to pay them with)

  These monkeys dont want to improve long term, they just want their big money signings – they ignore the cost – they have no understanding of money – nor do they really care of they are good – as the next “big” signing will keep them happy.

  If these monkeys desert us – they arent fans that you build a solid foundation on. I would much rather have fewer fans (initially) who were passionate and understanding – with their expectations aligned with the club.

  I keep on saying it, and I am hated for it (who cares!) but unless the monkeys gain the ability to think, appreciate and understand – they are the cancer at the club – not the board.

  I say cut out the mob from our following – or bring them with their new understanding back into the fold (we are half way there now – as you state every real fact backs up MA as truthful) Thereon we can move forward as a collective.

  Do I think that will happen under Mike Ashley – yes I do.

• 118 Nick D // Mar 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM

  stardust I’m with you on a lot of things, especially about th evil, odious Shepherd but Ashley lost it by appointing kinnear.

  With the structure of a DOF, we needed a foreign coach, not to be scraping the barrel with kinnear, when it was obvious from the off, KK could not work in that set up.

  Secondly not selling to the abu Dhabi group when he had the chance will haunt us for years.

• 119 komfort // Mar 11, 2009 at 4:27 PM

  cheeky monkey !

• 120 Stardust // Mar 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM

  Nick – Did he really have the chance to sell to Abu Dhabi? Like most things I suggest it was tosh – I will stand corrected if you can show me there was a real opportunity and quotes.

  I agree re the sentiments re JK however – no one else would manage us because of the fans hysteria – therefore – we as a collective (me included sadly even though we told folks not to demo) suffer!

  Heres to the run in!

• 121 Michael12 // Mar 11, 2009 at 4:46 PM

  This is a very interesting debate. @ Stardust, again I must commend your arguments.

• 122 Stardust // Mar 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM

  Cheers Michael

  Sav – I dont usually reply to your comments as they are so fundamentally flawed its like – “where do i start?”

  But I laughed at this – you wrote “Do we have dig up the fact for you all over again? The Wenger and Ferguson quotes, all the rest of it? You insist on rewriting history to suit your Ashley agenda over and over. Maybe you’re just a mackem with too much spare time, having a laugh but I’m getting fed up having to correct your inaccuracies.”

  Both Ferguson and Wenger were asked theoretical questions based on supposition of what went on – to this day you or I dont – or the press for that matter – know the “facts” of what went on as they are under proceedings. Therefore their answers can be discounted as they werent based on anything!

  However you claim that in absence of these known facts – in the aformentioned managers answering a theoretical “scenario” – that YOU SAV have found the truth and that I am rewriting history. I am simply aghast at how deluded you are.

  No wonder I dont reply to you – youre logic and understanding is twisted as space and time at the singularity of a black hole – yep no one really knows what goes on there either but can only guess as its beyond the bounds of human understanding.

• 123 komfort // Mar 11, 2009 at 5:57 PM

  stardust , come on get it off your chest just tell us your true feelings that we should get rid of jk at the end of the season , you’ll feel better for it….promise.

• 124 Widowmaker // Mar 11, 2009 at 7:07 PM

  I would put my ass on betting Fergi and Wenger do actually know what had happened between KK and the boards. They are both well respected and do not underestimate their contacts and connections.

• 125 Will // Mar 11, 2009 at 11:01 PM

  Stardust, Why did they ignore/hold the truth from the fans prior to these desperate statements? EH?

  Did we deserve to be treated like that? I’m sorry but that is the worst crime, already commited. So he doesn’t deserve to be defended.

  I’m sick of tossers saying they’re thinking of the club! We’re the f*cking club, and look what’s happening now – begging us not to go!

• 126 Will // Mar 11, 2009 at 11:02 PM

  Stardust, you’re the deluded one mate. When we get relegated, You won’t have a leg to stand on.

• 127 Stardust // Mar 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM

  Will – far from it.

  If we go down the Mob and KK are the main protagonists – you keep looking to blame others – of course you all love your club dont you (so much so you choose to hate) look in the mirror the answer and blame lies within.

• 128 Nick D // Mar 12, 2009 at 9:09 AM

  Stardust – I do agree the demo by the mob has really not achieved anything positive whatsoever.

  Curbishley another old school manager walks out of West Ham. No fuss and virtually the next day they get a far better one in Zola.

  I just think it was a mistake appointing KK in the first place as we needed a foreign manager who could work in that set up to take us forward.

  KK is a fantasist and Ashley should have been up front with him about the lack of funds etc. Who knows, maybe he was.

  With a good manager the future could be great with Krul, Ranger, Spear , Vuksic, Adjei, Kadar et al. Di Matteo or Martinez possibly with a DOF like Houllier. To be fair to Wise with that production line I am not desperate like the mob to see him leave.

• 129 Stardust // Mar 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM

  Nick – I agree with you – It ws a mistake by Ashley to appoint KK – it could have also been a stroke of genius – if KK had remained more stable – I think he has flipped!

  Re your “KK is a fantasist and Ashley should have been up front with him about the lack of funds etc. Who knows, maybe he was.” I believe both men knew where they stood when KK joined, you only had to listen to the “perfect owner quotes” of KK – BUT then Mike lost most of his wealth.

  An unforeseen circumstance – only this morning there is a report Ambramovich has lost 80% of his. KK just couldnt handle the changing circumstance.

  Good post though fella – but dont hold your breath on Joe going, I think Ashley might be loyal to him for the reasons I stated earlier in the thread. I will support them either way – its a tough decision really – but like you I am worried – will Joe develop younger players and bring them through?

• 130 workyticket // Mar 12, 2009 at 10:04 AM

  bennytoon // Mar 11, 2009 at 8:31 AM

  “Turkish mag- Stick to making kebabs as comedy isnt your thing.”

  Bennytoon, your racist comments aren’t funny either. So there’s no need to copy and paste them over several articles.

• 131 Tom_Toon // Mar 12, 2009 at 12:11 PM

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