Llambias – Mistakes Have Been Made This Season

Managing Director Derek Llambias has sent a personal message to Newcastle fans who intend to cancel their three-year discounted season tickets.


Derek Llambias – we have made mistakes

Llambias is asking the fans to stick by the club, as he concedes that mistakes have been made by owner Mike Ashley and himself this season.

The letters also allows Newcastle supporters, who want to get out of the contract they signed last summer, a way out. One proviso is that the fans pay back the money they saved on this year’s season ticket.

Derek Llambias said in the letter:

“We would urge every Newcastle United supporter to stick with us because they are vital to taking the club forward in the future and putting the disappointments of the last few months behind us.”

“Yes, mistakes have been made this season but the board remains fully committed to re-establishing Newcastle United as one of the leading teams in the Premier League.”

“I know how much you enjoyed seeing the club challenging at the top end of the table and competing in Europe on a regular basis and we all want to see that again.”

“It may take a little time to achieve, but your continued support will be crucial in helping us get there.”

“We think this is the fairest way to do things if people do want to cancel their direct debits. We appreciate the economic climate has changed considerably for a lot of people and this is the compromise we have reached.”

“All we are asking for is that supporters pay back the money they saved on this season’s ticket when they signed up for the three years and we will terminate the contract.”

One thing that is obvious with the Newcastle fans is that they are still supporting the team big time, in their now annual struggle against relegation, and they were simply magnificent against Manchester United.

If we can avoid relegation we have to hope that this summer will be one of the best transfer seasons for many a year.  That’s what we’re hoping for, in any case, as it appears money will be available, and the players Newcastle are pursuing seem good.

Everybody knows Newcastle fans are just the best – so if only we could get a team together that’s half as good as the fans  …….   we’d be on our way.  😀

Comments welcome.

131 comments so far

  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 10, 2009 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #1

    There is a good comment in the full chronicle article about the performance on the pitch and that being a reason as to why people might not want to continue, just like any other business’s product.

    I thought that was a good point.

    Aye its been a right crap season and lets hope it gets better before the end of the season.

  • batty

    Mar 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #2

    yeah one big mistake ashley not selling the club

  • Gilly

    Mar 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #3

    He should go on Mastermind – specialist subject stating the bleeding obvious

  • beyethegreat

    Mar 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #4


    youre forgetting the 1 where he didnt tell kk or the fans who had final say over transfers

    then tried to turn it round on to kk in the infamous”fact statement” claiming that kk knew he would have to report to a DOF

    there fore hinting that kk knew he had final say but if kk knew this then why did wise say on the official site that kk would have final say

  • komfort

    Mar 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #5

    ed i wish my wife would appreciate the economic climate has changed considerably , but she just wont compromise…spend..spend ..spent

  • batty

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #6

    beye they made that many i forgot aboot that one m8

  • BILLY - B

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #7

    He is just repeating what has already been said what everyone knows that supposed profesional buisness men made a right arse of it then tried to blame everyone else.I dont believe a word they say they always dangle the carrott of money will be made available for the next window then nothing happens except one or two of our better players will go then on the last day we may get a team player or two

  • vivadavidkelly

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #8

    batty you are like a broken record – you dont like ashley we get it!!!!

  • mcvicar

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #9

    i cant get away with anything laimbias says i just know he dosent care about the fans he just thinks about money and the statment he made about punching kk in the face was unreal i dont trust him are ashley and never have and its gonna take some work by these two before i do trust them but the main thing is the team so if we stay up and theres some good players come in i will be happy enough

  • Stardust

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #10

    This will show how fickle the fans are – they will complan at the offer – which is totally fair.

    They can get out of their contracts but pay the money they owe – but NUSC are already making an issue saying that its unfair – that the clubs in turmoil etc.

    I applaud the club for allowing people to walk away from a contract in times of hardship. NUSC etc will paint it another way.

  • vivadavidkelly

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #11

    agreed stardust

  • vivadavidkelly

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #12

    they could have easily not offered the cancellation of the direct debits therefore making alot more money

  • sahota

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #13

    I hope we survive this season and I hope these guys spend some money and buy some decent players. Only that can give fans some assurance. Also please stop talking about ASHLEY OUT, that won’t happen. So don’t waste your time and energy saying it.

  • batty

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #14

    vivadavidkelly so i take your in love with him ASHLEY OUT AND IT WILL HAPPEN

  • Shot Bru

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #15

    That seems a fairly decent compromise. Stardust i have read a lot of your posts with interest and amusement, you seem an intelligent bloke, like Ashley is. I have nothing against the man and actually think he will turn out to be exactly what we need, an owner who is determined to build foundations etc. Answer me this, why if Ashley has ploughed 1/4 of a billion pounds of his own money into NUFC does he place this investment in the hands of a man like Joe Kinnear, who has just had a triple heart bypass, who is medically unfit to attend work, who hasn’t been in the game for years and has never won a major trophy as a manager and won less than 25% of his PL games in charge of the toon resulting in us teetering on relegation.

  • stevep

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #16

    Just read that Arse may bid for Bassong in the summer – did he ever sign that contract extension?

  • Alanmc09

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #17

    Steve-no not yet and i also think if we were to go down bassong would defo leave us!!
    Saying that,if we stay up and arsenal come knocking i cant see a frenchman turning down arsenal!

  • geordie jock

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #18

    Bloody hell Ed have you been on the happy baccy, hoping for the best transfer season for many a year. Is this Ashleys lot you expect to spend a lot of money and actually buy some decent players, you better give me a drag too cos i don’t think its going to happen. Oh and by the way sahota Ashley out.

  • Macas35

    Mar 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #19

    Its rare that I agree with Stardust about Ashley and co but I can’t see the problem in this. Fans bought the tickets for 3 years at a special rate, its only fair that they pay back the difference if they cancel. Well done to the club for allowing this, although I suspect they are being diplomatic and want to try and keep the fans on their side. I imagine a few of those who cancel will end up buying a ticket for next year anyway if we stop up!

  • Stardust

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #20

    Shot Bru – I think

    “Answer me this, why if Ashley has ploughed 1/4 of a billion pounds of his own money into NUFC does he place this investment in the hands of a man like Joe Kinnear, who has just had a triple heart bypass, who is medically unfit to attend work, who hasn’t been in the game for years and has never won a major trophy as a manager and won less than 25% of his PL games in charge of the toon resulting in us teetering on relegation”

    Has a very simplistic easy answer. Ashley feels like he owes Joe. Joe jumped into the trenches with Mike when everyone in the world (without any real knowledge) was turning on the club, throwing bombs at them, and demonstrating everywhere.

    The fans made Joe the manager – as noone else would touch us. Thats the grim reality.

    Joe on seeing the opportunity jumped into the trenches, put the club, the fans, the player, his health – all on his back and carried everyone – to his eventual detriment.

    Ashley knows Joe took everything throw at him and the club and fought like hell for him. I believe Ashley is a good man – and bonds made in battle when fighting shoulder to shoulder are tough to break.

    Ashley feels beholding to Joe. I admire that – do I think its the right thing to do – I am 50/50 but I prefer a world of loyalty longtermism and reality than perpetually changing minds in light of circumstance at a particular time.

    The players seem motivated at times, and I actually think that Joes illness would motivate me after what he had put himself through.

  • RichY

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #21

    Mistakes have been made…

    biggest understatement of the season…

  • Bill F

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #22

    Being a Toon exile and not being able to go to live games anymore, I don’t buy tickets of any type. But I was under the impression that there was a waiting list for season tickets. Therefore cancelling them is a bit of cutting ones nose off etc. despite the crap season/s we are having I believe most fans will stay loyal and can’t see too many taking the offer up.

  • Shot Bru

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #23

    Cheers Stardust, honest and forthright as usual. To me it seems like Ashley would do himself no harm in appointing a respected football man to advise on affairs regarding players and management at the club from board room level, and preferably someone who isn’t just a mate of his. Ray Ranson’s name was mentioned a few weeks ago for just that type of position at the club.

  • Graeme

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #24

    The whole MA ownership has been a mistake from day one!!

    Buying or investing in anything at that magnitude of investment demands “due diligence”! Did MA do it? NO

    Having taken on BSA as the incumbent manager, promising to stick with him, he sacked Sam. Did MA have any sort of back up plan in place? NO

    Having promised the fans that he was in this for the long term and intended to invest in the playing staff. Did he do it? NO

    To bail himself out with the fans, he convinced KK to take over and he would have final say on any player coming in, or going out. Did it happen? NO

    Have we seen a substantial increae in either the numbers, or quality of the playing staff?? NO

    Its a complete litany of failure on behalf of MA and his cronies. Can it be turned around? Of course it can, but its going to take a substantial financial input. If we go down I dont think MA has the financial stability to be able to get us back in the Premier League for quite a period of time, probably 5 years.

    I consider that a total failure. Every failure above has had a dramatic negative effect on the club, the players, the fans to the point we are now teetering on the brink of relegation with a rudderless ship and the helmsman on sick leave and the backup clueless what to do!!!

    A sad state of affairs that is NUFC today!!! Thanks Mike Ashley.

  • komfort

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #25

    stardust, those bonds you refer to should be put to one side at the end of the season, they should not cloud the issue of wether joe is the person who is best to move us foward , for what its worth i would go for someone of the modern era

  • vivadavidkelly

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #26

    batty – i am yet to read an intellegent comment from you so i am guessing your still at school?

    anyway i am not for or against ashley but i would defo say he has done more good than bad. his biggest mistake wasnt kk but failing to do due dillegence on the club, which we all know now.

    the current regime are still plugging the millions of holes left by freddie – it is blatent. and anyone who cannot see this is living on another panet. shepherd is no more than a crook and his years of mis managment akmost brought the club to its knees, and certainly would have, if we had not been taken over. ashley must lookm at the whole situation and think – “i have pumped in well over 200 mill and what do i get? a load of w**kers slagging me off every day” no wonder there are no funds for players.ask yourself this… when FFS signed Owen, Luque, Martins etc. where was that money coming from? certainly not freddies fat wallet. it was all take take take with him. he didnt give 2 hoots about the club and whatever your opinions of the regime today, we should all at least be thankful for the fact that they have put the money in which they have.

  • Gilly

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #27

    Stardust, I know that you are speaking metaphorically `fighting shoulder to shoulder’ but I do not agree.
    MA for all of his club failings and is an astute businessman, JK is here because no one else would/will come; as soon as that changes (when we stay up) I for one still harbour hope it changes.

  • vivadavidkelly

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #28

    I think you will find JFK is here because he is by far the cheapest option. He woould be on no more than 500k a year, whereas someone like a steve bruce would command at least 3 mill. there lies the only reason NUFC will be keen to keep Kinnear on board

  • Bill F

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #29

    I believe that Joe is already talking up his wages if he stays on, I’d be surprised if he does though.

  • beyethegreat

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #30


    OMG i never thought i would say this but i agree with you stardust that is exactly the reason MA offered jfk a contract and i dont blame him ok jfk hasnt done the best job but if youre in MA’S posistion and some1 has helped you out in your time of need you arent going to say thanks but no thanks and i personally do feel we owe joe something

  • komfort

    Mar 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #31

    beye , i dont think we should be handing out favours to anyone , jk is getting a salary for acting as our manager and thanks to him for it ,but come the end of the season i think its time to move on.

  • beyethegreat

    Mar 10, 2009 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #32

    gd point komfort but i feel we owe him something and you never know with a settled squad he might do a lot better(that is if we can get 1)

  • komfort

    Mar 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #33

    bye, scout !

  • beyethegreat

    Mar 10, 2009 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #34

    komfort i think he is interested in being a manager

  • Don

    Mar 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #35

    What I cant understand is how Ashley actually made his Billions, if he sticks with incompetents just because theyre a good bloke.
    Well I suppose I do really, hes a gambler who takes chances.
    At the moment hes gambling with our Club and Llambias, Wise and JFK.
    the trouble is I can see us being the losers out of all this.

  • komfort

    Mar 10, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #36

    bye , it would be interesting to see him manage the team without all this turmoil going on then judge him that way , not sure wether it would be much better tho.

  • komfort

    Mar 10, 2009 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #37

    er thats beye ,soz

  • Stardust

    Mar 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #38

    Gilly – I agree that no one else would come – the – and I use the term loosely “fans” made us unmanageable and from a great attractive club to a football club in a mad house. I stand by that. I always advocate reality and circumstance. The reality is Joe would never have been in a million years first choice.

    But the same fans now complaining Joe is here are the ones who were demo’ing and preventing a good appointment – how ironic!

    Again all you are seeing is that Mike Ashley is a good and loyal man -but the witch hunters dont want to hear that at all – shame really theyre so busy hating everything – they just dont realise how lucky we are.

  • Stardust

    Mar 10, 2009 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #39


    The very best businesses in the world have “enduring principles” they get the right people on board and stick with them – always through thick and thin.

    They are the enduring businesses – not the peak pror record low the next as they put long term growth at the heart of the rationale. They make babysteps – its called the flywheel effect – keep pushing – small steps – then one day the flywheel – a la Man U – has all the momentum and turns itself. Exact same thing is happening at Newcastle – stick with it – its a good thing

  • beyethegreat

    Mar 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #40


    i disagree managers didnt turn us down because of that they turned us down coz at the time MA couldnt give them a full time contract


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