No Points Target For Newcastle United To Survive


Chris Hughton is right to say there is no reason for him to be talking about how many points Newcastle need right now, to stay in the Premier League.

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Chris Hughton– doesn’t have points total in mind
 

 Chris said today:

“I think another 15 points will definitely be enough, but what we haven’t got is numbers in our minds,”

“We’ve had a look at each game. We went into the Hull game hoping to get three points and we have to hope results go for us. All we can do is win as many games as we can and not worry about anyone else.”

“We’ve got a draw against Hull which we are unhappy about. People felt we had to get a win, but we still went up one place in the table and that’s how the league is.”

“The way we’ve got to look at is there are nine games left and a lot of points to be won.”

It’s a really futile exercise to put down what you think you can get from each game, and it can even work against you if,  like Saturday,  a win is expected and you only get a draw.

If we want a draw at home against Arsenal – does that mean our game plan would be to do that – we hope not. No, it’s futile to do that kind of stuff, and does nothing good at all.

The way to go is to put a plan together to try to get maximum points out of each game, and that seems to be what Chris is doing, thankfully.

Of course Newcastle have two massively difficult games against in-form sides Arsenal and Chelsea, before they face Stoke, and then we have home games against Fulham, Portsmouth and Middlesbrough – which now look to be the crunch games that we must win, if we are to survive.

Chris continued:

“Arsenal are a quality side, as are Man Utd who came to us a couple of weeks ago.”

“We’re very aware of their qualities and what our level of performance has to be like if we want to get something out of game.”

“Certainly there are some games which are more winnable than the next two games – but that’s the challenge to this group of players.”

“We’re going to have to perform very well to get positive results against Arsenal and Chelsea, but it can be done, the performance against Manchester United shows what we are capable of.”  

We expect Newcastle to play a lot better in our next two games, than we did against Hull on Saturday.

As we showed against the Red Devils we can play well, when we have to – well at least against the better sides. But we also have to have good team selection, and we still don’t understand how come Peter Lovenkrands didn’t participate last Saturday. After all Peter partnered with Oba Martins so well against Manchester United, and scored the goal after 9 minutes..

Chris said:

“I was disappointed with the way we started the game. We stressed to the players what we wanted – and with this group of lads there is no doubting they knew what the game meant.”

“But sometimes, for some reason, you don’t start the way you want to.”

“It wasn’t because of a lack of effort or endeavour, we just weren’t able to get into our stride. Consequently we found ourselves behind and probably took too long to get going.”

“Once we did we were the more likely side to go on and win it, but I would have liked to have seen that attitude earlier in the game.”

“It’s an emotional game and we’re very capable of going into the next game starting a lot better, keeping hold of possession and threatening the opposition.”

“If we knew all the answers to why we started like we did we wouldn’t be where we are at this stage of the season.”  

We don’t know what it is either, as to why the lads didn’t start to play until after a full 30 minutes.

But that’s the job that Chris and Colin Calderwood have now at Newcastle, and they just have to get the lads playing all out, right from the start of games, and keeping that endeavor going for the full 90 minutes.

If we cannot do that in our remaining games – we’ll likely be relegated – things are that bad.

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31 comments so far

  • RyanToon

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #1

    15 points???

    what shop do you get them from???

    anyone know???

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  • roscoe

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #2

    15?????????????? HAHAHAHAHAHA

    He really is a fool! a good coach I might add but not a manager.

    15 points is possible thats for sure but we only need 8 to survive!

    37pts = SAFE!

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  • bennytoon

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #3

    After newcastle have lost there next 2 home games they will have 7 games left to save themselves. You will probably be second from bottom after these 2 games. I still think you will stay up as long as you win against stoke away. If you lose or draw that game i think your down.

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  • roscoe

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #4

    this is the attitude we need to take into our two games with Arsenal and Chelsea?

    “If you are going to walk on thin ice, you might as well dance.”

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #5

    Bennytoon what is that I see a reasonably thought out point with no malice or WUMness?

    If you came on here and focused on friendly banter instead of being a prick most of the time you maybe wouldn’t come across as such a Tw4t.

    I mentioned Houghton not having a points target on the other Houghton thread…crazy.

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  • roscoe

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #6

    this just illustrates how clueless he is!
    15 points is crazy, get real hughton!
    Do you even think he knows how many points we have?

    MORON!

    37pts = SAFE!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #7

    SJT – morning fella – u ok today?

    I read this earlier and it didnt guage any form of reaction from me.

    I am willing the week away and know for a fact that Saturday will drag.

    I plan on having a few beers before the match to steady the nerves. As to where that will be – as yet undecided.

    Open invitation to anyone who wants to come along.

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  • JonnyNufc

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #8

    Hughton did not choose the team for the hull game fact.

    No guy who starts loven against Man united and doesnt play Ameobi..then plays Ameobi v hull and doesnt play Loven.

    Shows completely different levels of faith in each players ability. And since Lua Lua was brought on for the Man u game and Kinnear never uses youngsters…seems to me to be VERYYYYYY likely that Kinnear has had a word since that match and changed things for hull from his bed.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #9

    15 points is just a made up figure…totally picked at random,maybe he had just stuck the lottery on and that number was lodged in his brain.

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  • magforlife

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #10

    Hughton is a yes man, bland in media interviews and he must be the same with the players who are walking all over him, he is not strong enough to be a gaffer and kick arse which is whats needed. The whole club seems to be sailing towards an iceberg with no one keeping watch, his forward substitution on Saturday was gob smacking, as was his selection of Ron Geremi. I will always be behind the club and i am loathe to criticize but there seems to be an attitude that all will turn out well without actually doing anything about it which concerns me greatly.

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  • spiderpig

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #11

    its plain to see that chris hughton is never gonna be a manager of any distinction.the blokes got no balls.i dont think even he knows how he wants the team to play.we never shoot.we are virtually back to the allardyce days.just hoping and praying that nolan,guthrie ,barton and beye can inject some sort of confidence.when we do go one nil up we shit ourselves.i cant remember holding a lead for more than 5 mins.its as if we can only relax and play a bit when we go behind.negative ,loser mentallity will kill us.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #12

    All good TG..just preparing my mind for another few days of toon spin and waffle..You couldn’t make half of this stuff up.

    Every manager has a rough idea of points they need from each game and sets out his stall accordingly…the guy is off his rocker that’s for sure.

    Wake up Mr Houghton….Wakey Wakey !!
    Maybe get Timmy Mallett to bash him round the head a few times…he seems to be in some kind of coma does our Chris.

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  • THE MAGPIE

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #13

    I think 38 will be enough-Llambias thought we would get 43-i hope so Derek i bow to your superior knowledge of football-ha.

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  • hitman

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #14

    the people in charge couldnt organize a pissup in a brewery.fools the lot of them

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  • Sav

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #15

    All a bit vague, bland and predictable from CH.
    I suspect his pre-match and half-time team talks are much the same. As is his team selection.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #16

    SJT – It will get worse.

    I was stood near Lee Ryder of the Chronicle last night at the ressies and from what I heard (non deliberate), I get the impression that he thinks the same as the rest of we.

    I would phsyc ya sell up for the inevitable ‘we can win against arsenal’ piece.

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  • roscoe

    Mar 17, 2009 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #17

    AYE toon graeme – can’t wait to read the blabber about how we can beat aresenal on sat.

    funny thing is i believe we really can, I just wish they would say it in the dressing room rather than the fooking press room!!

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  • nolantoon

    Mar 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #18

    so does anyone have a clue who will be playing in midfield on saturday evening?????

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 17, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #19

    Nolantoon,

    Would like to see:

    Jonas — Nolan — Gurthire —- Lovenkrandz

    will probably see

    Jonas — Butt — Nolan — Geremi

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #20

    Or Guthrie even – man I cant spell.

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  • big boomer

    Mar 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #21

    Hughton couldn’t pick his nose never mind a winning football team. Last saturday should have been attack minded this week a little more consrvative. Give arse space to play and they will waltz through our laboured midfield and shambolic defence.
    He said Hull is a difficult place to go and win, hello they have the worst home record in the league.
    Carroll would ruffle the arse defence and if we adopt the same tactic as last week with hoofs up the field we need a target man. midfield must support front two better but we have got no one who us willing or able to go forward.

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  • geordie jock

    Mar 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #22

    So Hughton has no points total and that is what it seems we will get NO POINTS. As for his other quote of 15 points ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. The only way he will get 15 points is by buying 5 sets of darts.

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  • geordie jock

    Mar 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #23

    Mean’t no points target

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  • bowburnmag

    Mar 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM

    Comment #24

    Anybody got any ideas on the best way to represent on an internet forum, a short exhaling of air through pursed lips, that in fact just otherwise implies a verbal shrug of the shoulders, that in turn infers an air of bewilderment and disenchantment about all things currently regarding NUFC?

    It would just make it easier than writing the cr*p I’ve just written but still suitably sum up where I’m at right now.

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  • Isaac Hunt

    Mar 17, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #25

    Big Tel = 1 Cockney = 15 points

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  • Darling27

    Mar 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #26

    15 Points??? Has he been on the crack pipe or what???

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  • Darling27

    Mar 17, 2009 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #27

    I’d like to see a midfield of Jonas Nolan Guthrie and Lovenkrands too with Owen and Martins up front.

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  • Darling27

    Mar 17, 2009 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #28

    Line Up For Arsenal

    4-1-4-1 formation

    Harper
    Enrique
    Bassong
    S.Taylor
    Beye
    Coloccini
    Lovenkrands
    Guthrie
    Nolan
    Jonas
    Martins

    Formation 4-1-4-1

    Newcaste United 1 Arsenal 1

    I hope!!!

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 17, 2009 at 6:38 PM

    Comment #29

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 17, 2009 at 6:38 PM

    Comment #30

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #31

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