Kinnear Back In Newcastle Oven Cannot Be Good For His Health


The Evening Chronicle is reporting today that Newcastle’s hierarchy met up with manager Joe Kinnear this week at his Hertfordshire home, and the news is that Joe is making good and steady progress, after his triple heart bypass operation.

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Joe Kinnear – this is how many goals I want
 

 That’s good news, and we would really hope that Joe is not getting too involved with the affairs at Newcastle right now – since the team is hardly doing well since he took ill on Saturday, 7th February.

We’re not sure what they talked about but probably discussed some transfer targets for the summer, but hopefully not the bad state of affairs of the team in the league – since Joe needs to get away from stressful situations, at least for another 3 weeks or so.  

In fact, because of the rather dire situation at Newcastle, there has to be some concern that when Joe does get back, he will be put  right back into the oven at Newcastle, and that just cannot be good for him, after all he’s gone through since early February – not to mention the problems he’s dealt with – mainly on his lonesome – since he joined Newcastle in late September.

We just cannot see how that can be good for Joe’s overall helath.

The lads of course got that wonderful win at WBA the same day Joe took ill, but since then the team has a miserly 2 points from their last 4 league games, and not surprisingly are now joint 3rd bottom, and are in deep trouble, with games against Arsenal and Chelsea upcoming.

Chris Hughton has again been less than successful at the helm, and he seems so much better in a back-up role as assistant coach, but he must now wrestle with at least 3 more senior games before Joe can return.

Newcastle fans will be hoping we can get some points from those games, at home against Arsenal and Chelsea, and an away game at Stoke City, before Joe takes over fully again – otherwise we’ll be in really serious trouble.

Chris is rightly staying calm about the whole thing, and told the Evening Chronicle today:

“It’s only normal and natural in the nine games we’ve got left that you look at games and think you’ve got better possibilities of getting points in some than others.”

“Part of the problem is that if you start going through everybody else and their games, you will end up driving yourself mad.”

“We just have to concentrate on our own games and making sure we win enough of those games.” “You have to be calm and divorce yourself from the position you are in.”

“You have to be aware of where we are and what is needed to get us out of it.” “It’s no good going into games at 100mph – then everything you’ve worked on goes out the window.

“So you have to bring yourself out of it.” “But every player knows the score.”

“Psychologically, it’s already a blow to be where we are now.” “To be in the position we are in now is not very comfortable. We have to get out of it as quick as we can.”

It’s just too easy to put the responsibility for the position we are in, on the shoulders of Chris Hughton and Colin Calderwood, and each and every player at the club has to take the responsibility of not living up to how well they can play.

That should be the message sent to the players before Saturday night’s game, against the high flying Gunners. The players should have their own professional pride, that they are so much better players than they have shown the Newcastle fans in these last four games.

Add to that the pride of playing for Newcastle United, and we would expect the lads to come out against Arsenal on Saturday at 5:30 pm, like a steam train at full speed – and keep going for the total game. 

We expect nothing less on Saturday, and we then have to rely on a little bit of lady luck, against the usually excellent Arsenal, and we could then get the 3 points we so badly need.

Quite honestly, nothing less is going to be good enough on Saturday, given our points return of the last 4 games.

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82 comments so far

  • shearerbliss

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #1

    Doesn’t the job already come with an health warning! Soon we have to start putting picures on the back of thier paychecks.

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  • DJG

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #2

    Wait till the end of the season and then get in a proper successful young coach. His contract runs out then so there will be no need for compensation.

    I like Kinnear but I just can’t see how he is the future of Newcastle United.

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  • TORONTOON

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #3

    SHOW ME THE MONEY!

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  • BT9MAG

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #4

    Joe was always going to be a short term solution, if he managed to keep us up, I’d say there’d be a risk MA would keep him on, but with his health problems he can’t be a viable option at all!

    Theres one man to take this job in my mind, he’s performed at the highest level, he understand the Toon fans and he is young enough to take on the challenge – Temuri Ketsbiah!

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  • batty

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #5

    fck off joe and take the ugly london c&nts with you

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  • Stuart79

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #6

    batty

    Harsh!

    I advocate Joe being replaced when he fell ill. Some on here say nobody would take the job.

    Llambias himself has said and I quote ‘if you knew the number of top, top managers who have applied for this job’

    Why aren’t we using one of them then?

    The hierachy like Joe and trust him. Which briefly translate to – he’s the only manager who would work under the ridiculous set up they have up here.

    He’s that desperate for a managers job he would manage the club if Osama Bin Laden was the DOF!

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  • Jan Stavik

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #7

    I’d like Kinnear to be sucessful now, and then realise that his heart can’t take the pressure of todays game and resign in the summer.

    But FC Clowncastle can easily sign him up for some years, then they deserve to drop down a division or two…

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  • batty

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #8

    Stuart79 i said hope before cos iam on one of me down days m8 but if iam truthfull we havent got a hope in hells chance ov staying up m8

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  • batty

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #9

    Stuart79 i dont beleive they tryed to get any one else m8 fat as deserves every thing he gets the fat useless c&nt

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  • batty

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM

    Comment #10

    Stuart79 harsh i was just saying what you are thinking m8 ha

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  • Stuart79

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #11

    Oh they haven’t tried to get anyone, that would be too much like common sense. These guys don’t look like they know anything about football.

    But Llambias did say they have had top manager apply for the job since Joe fell ill. Why haven’t they accepted one?

    They are loyal to Joe, fair enough but blind loyalty?

    He must have more money than sense Ashley. Which lets be honest if he was only worth 1 pound wouldn’t be difficult!

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  • Stuart79

    Mar 19, 2009 at 4:59 PM

    Comment #12

    batty // Mar 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM

    Stuart79 harsh i was just saying what you are thinking m8 ha

    Agreed

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #13

    Truth is, I don’t think we can judge JFK yet because we’ve just not seen him work with anything like a reasonable setup or environment. We’ve not even seen what he can do with a full squad.

    But I do worry about his health. Surely he should be rewarded for what he’s done and offered a lower-profile job in the summer? Otherwise it’s just a matter of waiting until he drops dead midway through a game, and nobody wants to see that.

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  • batty

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM

    Comment #14

    Stuart79 i beleive other people applyed for the job but i honestly think wise mentioned joke and ashley said yeah ok then

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  • shearerbliss

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #15

    It is all a smokescreen everyone. The board already have their man for next season but is employed at the moment. Joe knows that! I do not think MA has him in his 5 year plan.
    I think we will approach SB in the summer when we stay up and the rebuilding would start from there. As well as DW going joe would be offered the new DoF but would have a diffrent role to DW.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #16

    “We’re not sure what they talked about but probably discussed some transfer targets for the summer”

    Ed I bet you £10 that they did not discuss transfers,they don’t discuss transfers until the window is shutting.

    Sack Joe and Chris off pair of muppets..we have nothing to lose now if we sack them both,get Venebles in and if he can save Toon give him Dennis’s job.

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #17

    batty – slag off all and sundry if you like (and I agree with you on a lot of it) but can you lay off statements like “we havent got a hope in hells chance ov staying up”.

    That’s a completely unjustified statement, man. You’re saying that there is no chance at all that three other teams – including the four below us – will do WORSE than us for the last quarter of the season.

    To say you think we won’t do it, fair enough – but to say we have no chance at all? You must be a riot at parties, mate.

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  • Stuart79

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #18

    Shearbliss

    Can I have a pint of what your on please?

    If that happens I’ll eat my hat!

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #19

    shearerbliss – I think you may have a point there.

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  • shearerbliss

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #20

    Please not venebles! Good manager but passed it. Does not know the modern game.

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  • Stuart79

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #21

    Whumpie

    no home wins this year
    only 2 away wins all season
    4 wins from 26 games

    Does that say we’ll stay up to you?

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  • Stuart79

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #22

    Sorry Whumpie also

    We need to win four games in nine games.

    Something it’s taken us 26 games to do this season!

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #23

    Stuart – no, but it doesn’t say we have no chance either. There’s a big difference, and I get sick of hearing all this doom and gloom shite from so-called supporters.

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #24

    Stuart – we need nothing at all if the four teams below us don’t score any points! This “we need” stuff is conjecture – there is no ‘finish line score’.

    We just need to do as well or better than the teams around us. With our manager and all our key players back, that is totally achievable.

    Will it happen? Dunno. Is it possible? Of course it is.

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  • shearerbliss

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #25

    Start eating Stuart. I think we may either be going continental or young British manager. Just a gut feeling. From my contacts in Sports Direct MA is no fool and has been getting a lot of stick from all around him but more importantly has been reciving help. Also in the summer look for MA original plan to have the finances set up like QPR with another rich man partnering MA.
    You heard it hear first!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #26

    Whumpie look at the stats fella the table don’t tell lies.

    The reality is nothing from next home games,nothing against spurs or villa,stoke will be tricky as will pompey (we don’t beat teams around us or above us),boro who knows…I dont see where these points tallys are coming from sorry people.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #27

    Yeah Yeah Shearerbliss..first it was the arsenal model,then QPR Blah blah…we need this idiot out of the club and start to learn to dream again..big Mike and the Mob have Smashed all the hope and dreams that we had.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #28

    Maybe it will be the Barnsley Model next…failing that how about Leeds or Nottingham forest Models?

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  • beyethegreat

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #29

    where do the away fans sit

    unfortunately i dont go to as many games as i would like but i am interested in the chelsea game and i wanna sit where the best atmosphere is which is usually near the away fans

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  • shearerbliss

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #30

    big Mike and the Mob have Smashed all the hope and dreams that we had.

    No sir jason just lowered our expectations and ambitions! Then build it up slowly. You know like everyone else we win a game we are going to Europe we lose we are relgation material. Only black and white, no Brown (excuse the pun).
    We need to lower these bring in someone we could learn to trust and let him or her take the club forward!

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  • Stuart79

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #31

    Shearbliss

    I have been asking what’s happening with this further investment into the club story.

    He said he wanted someone else to take the burden off him but nothing happened.

    However I will take your speal with a pinch of the preverbial.

    If we go down allhis plans go to pot!

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  • shearerbliss

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #32

    It takes time stuart. You just can not walk up to someone and say look could you lend me 40 mill a year for 5 years can you?

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  • batty

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #33

    Whumpie this must be the worst form i can ever remmember the toon being in and yes we are down

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  • beyethegreat

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM

    Comment #34

    batty

    where is youre fighting spirit

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  • batty

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #35

    beyethegreat its gone m8 had it kicked out ov me by ashley and co just cant see which teams we gonna beat

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  • beyethegreat

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #36

    neither can i butwe are not mathmatically down yet

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  • batty

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #37

    like i said before m8 hope the only thing we got but iam on one ov me down days m8

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  • beyethegreat

    Mar 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #38

    sorry to hear it batty

    will this cheer you up

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PS60G5gAGs

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  • Johno Toon

    Mar 19, 2009 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #39

    i can gurantee we wont go down this year, not that we are too good or too big to go down but teams around us and below us will drop points as well and we will win atleast 4 games between now and the end of the season

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  • batty

    Mar 19, 2009 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #40

    it defo put a smile on me face m8 i honestly think he will be our manager next season m8

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