Newcastle Will Lose Some Top Players If Relegated


Newcastle United will face some problems with their players contracts, if they are relegated this season, which seems increasingly possible, after yesterday’s 3-1 defeat by Arsenal at St. James’ Park.

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Mike Ashley – will have work to do on squad if relegation happens
 

The News of  The World is reporting today that the club have made no provisions for relegation in top stars’ contracts. But it’s the NOTW on Sunday, so we need to take this with a little pinch of salt.

It also reports that Sunderland will decrease the wages by 40% if the team is relegated, but there again Sunderland have more experience being relegated from the Premier league.

There are a number of players who Newcastle will not be able to keep.

Top earners like Oba Martins and Damien Duff have deals that legally will see their £3M-a-year deals hold firm, with Jose Enrique, Alan Smith and Fabricio Coloccini also on £2.5M-a-year contracts. Those salaries of course would cripple the club – but that’s why clubs sell their top wage earners when they are relegated.

We suspect that Newcastle are right now going through who they will be selling and who they will be keeping if they do get relegated, and we would suspect that Owen, Martins, Smith., Geremi, Coloccini, Enrique, Cacapa, Gutierrez, Barton, Duff and Xisco would all be on their way out of the club this summer, simply because their salaries are too high compared to their worth to the club in the Championship.

Of course, on the other side of things, some players will just not stay at Newcastle to play in the Championship.

Newcastle may well try to keep Beye, the two Taylors, Harper, Nolan, Butt, Guthrie, Ameobi, Carroll, Bassong, Edgar, Lovenkrands, and then bring in other players to replace those who have left.

But the class of player brought in, and the wages Newcastle can pay, will depend on which league the club is in.

Don’t believe those fans who say it’s the best thing that could happen, because we’ll lose some good players in the process, and it’s not a given Newcastle can come straight back up.

There will also be severe damage to our image and brand – as one example we are one of 5 clubs that represent England to UEFA – the other four being the real top four of Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool – how far we have fallen. So you can see relegation would have lots of repercussions, none of which are very good.

We had hoped not to have been forced to discuss this possible eventuality, and Newcastle could still stay up, but the defeat yesterday against Arsenal, and the upcoming games, specifically the next one at home to Chelsea, make Newcastle fans wary that relegation is becoming a real possibility, if not yet a probability.

And as far as Mike Ashley is concerned, his investment in Newcastle will take massive hit, because it’s hard to see how the value of the club wouldn’t drop by at least half, if we are playing in the Championshiop.

As we said there are bad repercussions for everybody.

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40 comments so far

  • Toon_Factor

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #1

    Championship team

    Harper
    Beye
    S.Taylor
    Kadar
    Tozer
    R.Taylor
    Nolan
    Guthrie
    Lualua
    Xisco
    Lovenkrands

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  • brownrob

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #2

    Well who will be off the eage bill then?

    Currently we spend £1.4m on wages every week

    Owen 110k
    Viduka 70k
    Martins 70k
    Duff 65k
    Barton 70k
    Jose 60k
    Smith 60k
    Cacapa 30k

    Thats over half a million every week…

    The players above are either out of contract or will go to bigger clubs

    My mind is set for Championship footie next year, if we stay in the premiership it will be a bonus, though I cant see how we can stay up with the current lot of crocks in the team…

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  • WELSHMAG

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #3

    We stand to loose pretty much everything, players, fans, status, wealth, respect, it’ll all be gone thanks to Mr Mike Ashley.

    Just out of interest, what do you think it would have taken to turn our season around in jan?

    I think if Mike had spent 10million and re-invested the money raised from given and n’zogbia we’d have a much higher chance of staying up. 17 million could have got us two excellent players that would have given us a major boost.

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  • Wigaz

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #4

    Ed who are these supposidly good players we could lose then? I dont think we have any good players! they should be embarrased to call themselves footballers! We should accept the facts we’re Fuckt! I would play the kids in midfield & upfront. Lets face it None of our so called attacking players have any heart or desire to win us games. Prob Loven aside like, Duff looked up for it yesterday but once arsenal went in front he died like the rest of the team. We are going to have a team full of youngsters next season in championship so we may as well give them some experience at the highest level you never know they may just suprise a few. Team Vs Chelsea.
    ===========Harper========
    Beye===STaylor==Bassong==Jose
    Lua lua==Vukic==Guthrie==Loven=
    ====Carroll=====Ranger======

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  • beyethegreat

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #5

    would we lose our europa league status if we were relegated

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  • Dragonera

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #6

    Any news on Bassong or Taylor? Our season depends on the fitness of these two. If we play the rest of our home games like we have against Man U and Arsenal then we will win the rest of our homes games.

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  • DanOx

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #7

    What ‘Top Players’ who evidently aren’t good enough for the premiership.. Its no fluke we are down there.. Not good enough right through from chairman to players.

    Based on what i’ve seen this season:
    Owen – Doesnt contribute enough to the team
    Martins – Doesnt score anywhere near enough goals
    Smith – Doesnt know what position to play. Cant score up front, no creativity in midfield
    Geremi – Just awful.. i sometimes laugh at the fact this bloke has a champions league winners medal
    Coloccini – Honestly doesnt look quick enough to mark premiership strikers
    Enrique – Cant defend (however would be one i’d miss, but he is on too much money to justify keeping)
    Cacapa – May as well play with 10 men than include him, awful centre back
    Gutierrez – Excellent work rate, but struggles with end product, not helped by a lack of a big centre forward.
    Barton – Not worth his wage, not the same player who tormented us while playing for man city, too much of a target. (also makes us look ridiculous in the press)
    Duff – Not worth his wage, struggles with decisions on final ball
    Xisco – not played enough to comment, probably never will play enough for us.. Was he really worth losing KK over mike?

    Ashley – Too distant, doesnt yet understand football.
    Kinnear – Too fragile, terrible tactician
    Hughton – Not a manager

    Rant over, we need a miracle to stay up..

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  • Steve R

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #8

    I really think we will be lucky to avoid relegation. the a Supersport presenter in South Africa summed up our performance against Arsenal quite well:
    “There is NO team spirit in Newcastle, every man is playing for himself.” I just don’t think we have the fighting spirit. When I seen Crouch score 2goals for PORTSMOUTH you really could see that the team was ecstatic!!

    Even Bassong doesn’t care, in his recent interviews all he can talk about is Arsenal’s interest in him. He is a back-stabbing b@stard!!

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  • batty

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #9

    6 DanOx your wrong aboot erique

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  • jimmy

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #10

    ed how can you say were goin to lose top players we dont really have any if we did we wouldnt be in this position people at the club think our squad is good enough but simply it isnt i know weve been very unlucky with injuries but personally i think the back 4 as improved slightly but we do not have a midfield we always seem to pick players with reputation. we have no pace in the middle of the park look at the team about 5/6 years ago we had robert jenas dyer solano brilliant midfield. now we have duff butt geremi gutierez. i like guti but has no end product.

    1.butt- gives ball away too much, stupid free kicks and too slow.
    2.geremi- cant run. f in useless
    3.duff- left winger who cant beat a man and has no pace.
    4.ameobi worse striker i have ever seen at the toon fouls every time, says hes the man to score the goals ha ha dont make me laugh.
    5.viduka-crackin player but unfortunately never fit.
    6.cacapa- absolute diabolical.
    7.martins-headless chicken a lot of the time
    8.edgar simply not good enough.
    9.colocini not good enough at fault for a couple of the goals against arsenal i think.

    next season if we stay up:

    harper/krul

    beye/ bassong/ hengeland enrique
    r. taylor s.taylor

    pennant/ nolan/ barton/ adam johson/
    m.kightly m.johnson guthrie m.pedersen

    owen/ k.davies/
    sturridge doyle

    any thoughts? we have far too many as beens im fed up of watchin the toon good performance yesterday prob play like that against chelsea then well go away to stoke and defend. we deserve to get relegated sad state of affairs. worst team ive seen in years.

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  • Jezza

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #11

    We will lose all our so-called top players in the summer and we must lose them. No club can survive finalcially paying 60 grand a week wages in the Championship. Our wage bill is already 75% of our turnover which is unsustainable. Without Premiership television money our wage bill alone would be more than our turnover and we’d be in administration within 6 months. In any case, regardless of the financial reasons for a clear out we need one for football reasons too. Let’s face it, these players have done nothing to prevent us being relegated, for reasons of ability and/or commitment thay are just not good enough. I can see the following players going in the summer:
    Beye
    Bassong
    Colocini
    Cacapa
    Enrique
    Guitierrez
    Smith
    Barton
    Butt
    Geremi
    Duff
    Owen
    Martins
    Viduka
    Xisco

    I’d love to see us also getting shot of Ameobi because he will be of no use to us. Even in the Championship, he’ll still be out of his depth.

    If we could hang onto Harper, The Taylors, Edgar, Nolan, Guthrie, Carroll and Lovenkrands, then along with upcoming youngsters like Tozer, Kadar, Vukic, Lua Lua and Ranger we’d have the nucleus of a half decent Championship team which along with a suitable manager and 5 or 6 new signings could see us challenge for promotion.

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #12

    what’s happened to my post

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #13

    These so called big players can all f*ck off as far as I’m concerned. This is the worse NUFC team in years no class no heart no balls

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Mar 22, 2009 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #14

    what’s going on with this blog it hasn’t posted my last 3 posts

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  • sirjasontoon

    Mar 22, 2009 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #15

    Great Comments..cant’t see Owen staying next season even if we stay up…which aint going to happen.

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  • stumpofthetoon

    Mar 22, 2009 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #16

    i was on hear when we sighned nolan and said that bolton were glad to get rid. people said i was stupid and how good him and ryan taylor were…. after yesterday i realised i am right f**king shite down i recon but hey we might win a game been a while

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  • stumpofthetoon

    Mar 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #17

    who cares about owen no passion at all

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  • brownrob

    Mar 22, 2009 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #18

    well, who in the current squad could do a job for us in the championship?

    I posted this on 606 but I can see the following bare squad staying on

    GK: Harper, Krul, Forster
    DL: Kadar, ???
    DC: S Taylor, Bassong, Tozer, ???
    DR: Beye, R Taylor (Hoping Habib would stay)
    ML: Lovenkrands, Duff
    MC: Nolan, Smith, Vuckic, Butt, ???
    MR: LuaLua, ???
    ST: Carroll, Xisco, Ranger, ???

    Some players are in hope, like seb

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  • brownrob

    Mar 22, 2009 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #19

    And by clearing out the wasters MA can get rid of half off the wage bill, to bring it to a more sustainable level

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  • Steve R

    Mar 22, 2009 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #20

    Well maybe our youth system might serve us well next season in the championship. I hope we can hang on to our young stars though. I think ONLY the following first team players will be playing for us next season:
    Butt, Carroll, Ameobi, Beye, Lovenkrands, and hopefully the Taylor’s.

    If Vuckic is such an amazing talent, and an attacking mid, why have we not given him a go? Rooney was not too young when he was playing in Everton’s first team.

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  • stevep

    Mar 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #21

    Keep the faith man – if we can get 4 wins out of our last 8 we should stay up

    Although wtf we’re going to do next season with only 10 million to spend – may as well get relegated, get rid of high earners and try and come back up

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  • Ross

    Mar 22, 2009 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #22

    if (or god forbid when?..) we are relegated i can see us keeping maybe Harper, Steven Taylor, Ryan Taylor and Danny Guthrie. The rest of them would be out of there like a shot.

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  • jimmy

    Mar 22, 2009 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #23

    rodalega off wigan looks a decent striker like take him in summer

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  • Mag 48

    Mar 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #24

    We are relegated thats a cert So it does’nt matter who goes or stays
    What matters is we need a MANAGER!
    or we’re going to be fighting relegation again out of the championship next year!!

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  • Jezza

    Mar 22, 2009 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #25

    I agree with Mag 48. If Kinnear stays we will struggle in the Championship and will certainly finish in the bottom half of that league.

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  • heavyhittas

    Mar 22, 2009 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #26

    Like I’ve said in previous posts count Edgar out for next season he’s had enough of being disrespected by both the club and the fans and WILL be out of this shambles in Summer and good luck to the kid and he may just be a Premiership player week in week out next season !!

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  • toonoholic

    Mar 22, 2009 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #27

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH U GUYS

    FOR ALL THOSE MOFOS SAYING WE SHLD GO DOWN SO THAT WE CAN REGROUP ULL DESERVE TO BE CASTRATED.

    WE CAN REGROUP IRREGARDLESS ! AND GOD FORBID BUT GOING DOWN IS THE WORST THOUGHT A FAN CAN EVER THINK OF . ITS TOO MUCH PAIN. AND U THINK WE WILL MAKE IT BACK A SEASON AFTER WE GO DOWN BACK UP ? DREAM ON….

    if u dont believe in god or miracles better do , because thats the only way we can survive this season !!

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  • chuck

    Mar 22, 2009 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #28

    Dont look good.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:10 PM

    Comment #29

    Who are these top players? Most of the players who will leave are below average.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 22, 2009 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #30

    The only players I will have respect for are the one that will stay, that will include youngsters and the following IMO:

    Harper
    Beye-Taylor-Kadar-Tozer
    Lualua-Guthrie-Butt-R.Taylor
    Lovenkrands-Ameobi

    In an ideal world, Ameobi, Lovenkrands, Butt, R.Taylor and Tozer will be replaced by young championship players.

    I would give Guthrie the captaincy here. I think he will be immense in the the Championship.

    As for people thinking Bassong will stay if we went down: Get you heads checked!

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  • chuck

    Mar 23, 2009 at 12:05 AM

    Comment #31

    Guthrie the captaincy, I would give him the boot, guys useless.
    Immense, is that a joke?
    Is`nt Tozer a kid we signed last year, have`nt seen him play, so have no opinion, curious as to why he would be replaced before he has had a chance to show his stuff ?

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 23, 2009 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #32

    Guthrie is a very good and composed young CM.

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  • Premiership Manager

    Mar 23, 2009 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #33

    Some people need to get real on here regarding who will stay at the club.

    Young players like Bassong, Taylor, Guthrie and Enrique will all have ambiition of pushing for international honours and I doubt very much that they will want to stay at a club, which is not guaranteed to come back up, (who thought we’d be where we are now?).

    Lovenkrands will be a free agent but would be a superstar if he stayed as would Duff who may be gettting on but would be a blessing if he stayed however other clubs may be interested in both.

    Nolan and Barton will also be snapped up as will Martins by other clubs at a bargain price.

    Nobody will buy Colo or Ryan Taylor, as Colo would be too expensive and Taylor is a premiership squad player, at best.

    Viduka and Owen will go and Smith, (he’d be a superstar and may refind his form in the Championship). Geremy would also go or be released.

    Beye may stay however he’s got a couple of good years left in him and may also be snapped up as he is a class defender very much like Nobby Solano in his professionalism.

    Harper may also go and I would imagine Jonas would be snapped up.

    A wishfull team would be:

    Harper

    Beye Casapa Colo R Taylor

    Lua Lua Vukic Butt Lovenkrands

    Smith
    Ranger

    We’d need to get a few more young players in as well to bolster the squad numbers., however without the revenue I don’t know where the money would come from as Ashley will need the transfer funds to cover the loss of revenue fro gate receipts and lack of TV rights

    I’d like to think that we could stay up however with the current management team or should I say lack of it I have serious reservations.

    A spell in the championship could be what we need to rebuild and restructure but given the mistakes Ashley’s team have made and the fact that they don’t seem to be learning from their mistakes it’s very worrying.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 23, 2009 at 3:00 AM

    Comment #34

    Prem manager – You clearly dont know what you are on.

    Colo will be off to Spain in a shot ans got rid of because of high wages, Cacapa is out of contract, Smith is on 60k a week and will be gone.

    Taylor and Guthrie will stay for at least a season.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 23, 2009 at 3:00 AM

    Comment #35

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  • Sav

    Mar 23, 2009 at 4:03 AM

    Comment #36

    I think we are going down, too. But its still a bit early to be deciding on who’ll be kept for the Championship and who’ll be captain. Lets concentrate on the job in hand first, eh?

    As for the other threads on here, of course Nolan is ‘not the player he was’. If he was, fellow strugglers Bolton wouldn’t have sold him to us, and certainly not for a cut-price 4 million. Their fans said he was immobile and lacked the drive he had 3 years back. But then, our cut-price owner thinks picking up players for bargain prices is always good business. He is about to find out that of all the big mistakes he has made on Tyneside, saving a few bob instead of reinforcing properly was his biggest – Sinking the ship for a happ’orth of tar.

    Judging by the conspicuous absence of the usual Ashley acolytes on here, it looks as though he is also about to find out the meaning of unpopular in a one club city like Newcastle.

    If the likes of Martins and Bassong were to leave and Shola, Joe Kinnear and Hughton stay while we struggle to find a way back out of the Championship, the fans will be fit to lynch Ashley and Llambias on Gallowgate.

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  • sahota

    Mar 23, 2009 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #37

    Isn’t it too early to discuss all this. Doesn’t it create even more bad environment. Guys be positive, still there is something we can fight for. Might be we will be relegated. But that doesn’t mean we all just think about relegation now. Everyone from manager, coach, players, supporters needs to be positive and give it a try. We are still in PL. Lets think about who will leave and who we will buy once this season is over.

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  • Premiership Manager

    Mar 23, 2009 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #38

    Tom Toon I did say ideal line up but just to clarify who would buy Colo on current form or a 10M price tag and his current wage and who will buy Smith at 60K a week.

    They have every right to stay at newcastle as over payed over rated stars and that is a point that you seem to be missing

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #39

    The point you seem to be mssing is that Smith will be availble for 1-2mil and Colo for about £5mil an both will take wage cuts to play at a top level.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Mar 23, 2009 at 5:11 PM

    Comment #40

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