Newcastle Asking A Lot of Joe Kinnear


Some news on Joe Kinnear today, as he will ha a battery of  tests a week on Monday, the results of which will  determine if he can return to Newcastle United’ training ground that week in preparation for the Stoke City game.

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Joe Kinnear – could return if results of tests on April 6th go well

Managing Director Derek Llambias, who has been a little quiet these last few weeks, told the Newcastle Journal today:

“Joe is desperate to come back, but we have to be sensible with him,” “If anything, we are going to have to hold him back at times because he’s so enthusiastic. We can’t have him leaping around on the touchline.”

“The good news, though, is he’s looking good and is feeling a lot stronger. I’ve been to see him this week and he was back to his old self really.”

“He goes for a load of tests on April 6 which is the big one for him. As long as the results come back ok he will be back at the training ground for a couple of days before the Stoke game and we’ll take it from there.”

“That might have to be how we do it for the first three games when he is back at work, a few days at the training ground in the build up to the game and then a little involvement on the matchday itself.”

“We’ll have to wait and see, it will all depend on how he feels and what the doctors say to him after the tests. He’ll have everything he needs at his disposal though.”

As we’ve said repeatedly since Joe had his operation, it’s really asking a lot of Joe to come back, after such a serious operation, and then have the task of  trying to get the Newcastle side out of  the big trouble they are in. It’s hard to question this man’s courage and commitment to Newcastle this season. We just wish the players had shown us more of that.

If Joe can save Newcastle, which is starting to look difficult at best, it would be a tremendous job, whatever you think of his management abilities.

While we think its’ a big mistake not to bring somebody experienced in to manage the side in Joe’s absence, the NUSC put out the right message out yesterday, that now is the time for all Newcastle fans, and everybody associated with the club, to stick together and support Newcastle, as we try our utmost to stay in the Premier League.

Our home games will be vital, but the Geordie crowd are legendary in their support, and we expect them to give 100% support to the lads – as they have always done – in the last 4 home games of the season. Who knows, they may even be able  to inspire the lads into beating Chelsea, and that is exactly what the club needs.

As we’ve suggested, the miracle this season, after everything terrible that’s happened at the club, is that the the team can actually survive in the Premier League.

That could only be possible at Newcastle United.  😀

Howay The Lads!!



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36 comments so far

  • Kash

    Mar 27, 2009 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #1

    Let us Pray!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #2

    Ed, agreed about the Chelsea match. If the crowd are anything like the Arsenal – you couldnt ask anymore of we.

    Im still cynical about him getting back in full flow.

    Even if its a pre-match and half time team talk – suppose owt is better than what we have at the minute

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  • ObaMartins

    Mar 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #3

    Kinnear has just had a life saving operation so to say his mind will be fully on Newcastle is a Understatement, If Ashley had any sense he would of brought in someone to Guarantee we keep our top flight status….it makes one wonder what his TRUE intentions for newcastle really are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Kash

    Mar 27, 2009 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #4

    @Oba – If only we knew?!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 27, 2009 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #5

    Oba – thats like the billion dollar question isnt it.

    I think its a question of money.

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  • Bill F

    Mar 27, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #6

    However on the positive side it does show a more humane aspect of Ashley, he hasn’t just dumped Joe. Not that that is helping the team however.

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  • lesh

    Mar 27, 2009 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #7

    It’s a shame that the powers that be hadn’t brought someone in when Joe was hospitalized.

    However laudible their motives may have seemed, by allowing the club’s position to worsen in Joe’s absense, MA and his crew have placed even more pressure on Joe.

    He should have been allowed to recover from what has been very serious surgery in the knowledge that the team were in safe hands.

    Yup, it’s water under the bridge and I do wish Joe every wish for a speedy recovery, but he really must get his priorities right – as the Board should have done too!

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  • Kash

    Mar 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #8

    @Lesh – Good point

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  • Sav

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #9

    Its not just a Q. of Joe seeing us through the last 7 or 8 games, though. – Its whether he is the man to carry out a comprehensive 5 year plan which the club needs…..if there is such a plan….?

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #10

    Toon Graeme – “If the crowd are anything like the Arsenal – you couldnt ask anymore of we.”

    – Were you watching the same match on Saturday? Our support was the worst sort – loud when things are up, then bottling out and abandoning their posts as soon as the chips were down.

    Beye said yesterday what it meant to have the Toon Army behind him. About half a mile behind, heading for the Metro station by the look of it. 20 minutes to go, the team needing support more than at any time in the last 10 years… and 20,000 “supporters” betray the team.

    As one of only 2 NUFC supporters in that pub, I took such abuse, and I had to put my hands up and admit that I was ASHAMED of the NUFC support that day.

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  • RememberShearer

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #11

    YEAH!! JUST NOT SURE IF HE SHOULD MANAGE AGAIN!!! 2ND HEART PROBLEM, THIS GAME, OR THIS CLUB WILL PROBABLY KILL HIM!?!?! AND I HAVE A SOFT SPOT FOR HIM, BUT HE IS NOT CUT OUT FOR IT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!! SORRY JOE!

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  • RememberShearer

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #12

    about time SHEARER stepped up…Motivation is what we need, bring in SHEARER and back him with every pound you have ashley, not what you can afford, but every pound!!!! EVERY POUND!!! YOU HAVE!!!!!!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #13

    Maybe Ashley thought that Hughton combind with Calderwood would be enough to handle the 1st team.

    He took a gamble on that one and lost as its not proving successful enough.

    Maybe the gamble on us staying up might go the same way.

    DID ANYONE COMPLETE THE JOURNAL NUFC POLL – GO ONTO journallive.co.uk/nufc

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #14

    The decision to “be loyal” to Joe is a classic example of how the bosses just don’t have the experience or knowledge to be in charge of a football club. It’s the same as going with a DOF, or last-minute panic-buys in transfer windows.

    I honestly think they mean well – but that means nowt in the football business, when it’s all about knowledge and experience. Ashley followed up one howler – appointing Llambias – with another – trying to run things himself.

    I don’t actually want Ashley to sell the club; I like being owned by an Englishman who will keep us solvent. But until he accepts his own limitations and gets some football brains in the board room, we’re stuffed.

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  • Stardust

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #15

    Lesh Ive replied in full on the NUSC thread

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  • Sav

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #16

    Bizarre article from Rob Stewart in the Telegraph says absolutely nowt……
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/5056836/Mike-Ashley-is-the-man-to-fix-Newcastle-United.html
    Why bother to print this stuff when there’s nothing in it. Presumably Llambias or some other lackey is ‘the source’. Whelan’s rant was pathetic. This just drags it out. Silence was the best response. Ashley’s PR machine…its like the football team at the minute.

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  • RememberShearer

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #17

    Aye man, agree

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  • Toon Graeme

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #18

    Sav – does the word sh*te best describe or inconsistant?

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  • lesh

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #19

    Re Stardust @15

    No you haven’t answered in full Stardust……

    “”Ashleys vision is a simple one. Build a sustainable club, with a sustainable future, with a sustainable player base, with sustainable needs where the balance of money in is balnaced by money out.” A vision I wholeheatedly agree with.””

    That Stardust is a vision, a mission statement…… it is not a 5 year strategy (aka a five year plan)!

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  • Stardust

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #20

    Lesh – a bit ridiculous if you expect me to know in fine detail a five year plan – but every plan has simple undertones and I have identified the key components – if thats not good enough your just being obtuse.

    The above is also the reason I dont expect JK to be our manager long term. I think he wont bring the youth through – which is against the underlying core ideology.

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #21

    Stardust – again, I agree with what you’re saying. But I think what you’re saying covers less than half of the issue.

    Read that quote from your response that lesh has put in comment 19. Replace ‘club’ with ‘business’ and replace ‘player base’ with ‘staff’. What you’ve put is no more than a standard line from any annual corporate report.

    That doesn’t make it bad, or inapplicable. It just means that while Ashley is minding the pennies, the rather important aspect of winning football matches is spiralling downwards.

    I’ve said it before: I’m actually happy with Ashley to continue owning the club – just as long as he steps back, sacks Llambias, and puts some experienced football men in charge.

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  • Ericles

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #22

    There is a reasonably sympathetic item in today’s Sun paper. Strange, considering past reporting. I do rather feel that Joe should come back this season. Or any season now. We must face the truth, and so must Joe, that the way Ashley and company run the club then NUFC are a health risk!

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  • Ericles

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #23

    Should read NOT come back!

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 27, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #24

    For what it’s worth, I think (and hope) Kinnear will come back but only in the background, and retire at the end of the season because his family won’t let him do otherwise for the sake of his health/life.

    I don’t want to be watching the match where he drops dead. I just don’t want to be part of that.

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  • Stardust

    Mar 27, 2009 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #25

    Whumpie

    Because the fact of the matter is – fans like to see football as a special case – it isnt – it has just been ran terribly by fools all over the land. Always in debt – paying horrendous interest payments (that could buy players if it had been built slowly).

    The fundamentals of any successful business are always the same – short term pain long term gain.

    Mike Ashley is the man to bring us long term success. Just hope he can keep those who love McDonalds happy enough until it comes to fruition. Or will they destroy the very thing they love just because they let one man become bigger than the club.

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  • Whumpie

    Mar 27, 2009 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #26

    Yes, Stardust. That’s obvious. But it’s just one part of a much bigger picture, and you just don’t seem to want to comment on any of the rest.

    If we go down – and that’s at least a 50% chance now due to Ashley’s other decisions – then we are far worse off financially than when he started.

    If he’d done enough on the football side to make us safe from relegation, then it would hang together as a strategy. But he’s got so many things wrong on the footballing side (as you’d expect – he may as well expect to run a hospital or a nuclear reactor) that hasn’t happened.

    It’s indefensible.

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  • Stardust

    Mar 27, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #27

    I am weary Whumpie – signing out you know my view.

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  • lesh

    Mar 27, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #28

    Ah now then Stardust, we’re beginning to get some where……

    You commented in 20 that it’s a bit ridiculous if I expect you to know in fine detail a five year plan and I agree wholeheartedly if you’re not privy to it, which you’re clearly not. That is not a criticism but what it confirms is that you’ve been posting with a blind loyalty to MA and his crew. Not very bright as it leaves one wide open – as has been shown on this site.

    Like Whumpie and many others I’m sure, I’m happy with MA’s vision but am deeply concerned that football seems to have slipped off his radar.

    He really must, as you must, be prepared to listen – not necessarily follow, but genuinely listen to the fans and deal with their concerns on a constructive manner.

    I’m sure we’re all aiming for the same end which is a hugely successful, popular and financially sound NUFC.

    Now Stardust, perhaps we can draw a line under this but gefore we do, I’d ask you to consider the old maxim …… the higher up the ladder one goes, people can see up one’s skirt!!

    Might be worth thinking about eh?

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  • Rodzilla

    Mar 27, 2009 at 9:30 PM

    Comment #29

    Stardust // Mar 27, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    “I am weary Whumpie – signing out you know my view.”

    ….hahaha Stardust, you’re such a drama-queen 😉

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  • Nick D

    Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #30

    Stardust – those who like MacDonalds – absolutely priceless. Funniest thing I’ve heard in ages.

    Ashely is right in some ways, but Kinnear ain’t one of them

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  • Rodzilla

    Mar 27, 2009 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #31

    Stardust & Nick D,

    Personally I LOVE McDonalds, but at the same time I’m aware of the potential damage, I only ever ‘go there’ through irregular whimsical urges brought on by ‘starvation’.

    As a normal human being I can only take so much sh1t before my body starts to reject it.

    I can only hope MA has some mighty fine nut-burgers up his sleeve. Coz I is getin hungry.

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    Mar 28, 2009 at 2:00 AM

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    Mar 28, 2009 at 3:02 AM

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    marble tulip juicy tree

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    Mar 28, 2009 at 6:25 PM

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    Mar 29, 2009 at 3:34 AM

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