Four Wins Still Needed For Newcastle Survival


We’re not sure it’s a particularly good thing to have our players talk too much to the press these days.

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Jose Enrique – not thinking of relegation

But of course that’s really part of their job, but we sometimes think the words from them are rather hollow and the say what they think the fans want to hear, rather than what they really think – but what’s new?

Jose Enrique, who is now playing much better than earlier in the season, talked yesterday about new interim manager Alan Shearer:

“We have confidence now, and we think, with him in charge, we can win games,” “From the first three days, the impression is good.”

“He scored more goals than anyone in the Premier League.” “He was a very good player, and I think he can be a very good manager.”

Newcastle probably need four wins and 12 points to survive this season and end up with 41 points with just 7 games to go. That would be out worst point total in the Premier League and the 3rd year running we’ve finished the season with our worst points total ever – how’s that for a continual decline.

We had 43 points and a goal difference of -9 two years ago and 43 points and a goal difference of -20 last year.

But the thing that is really worrisome is that after the WBA game we were saying almost the same thing, and then we had 13 games left.    But in our last 6 league games we’ve got two measly draws against Everton and Hull City, and if the rot doesn’t stop soon, we’ll be down – make no mistake about that.

And we’ll deserve it – that’s what makes all this so difficult. Jose talked about the arrival of Alan Shearer yesterday:

“We’re not thinking about the Championship,” “We have very good players, and we will go to Stoke believing we can win the game.”

We’ll go so far as to say if we cannot get the win at Stoke on Saturday, then it will become more likely rather than less likely – that we’ll be relegated. Yes we have to keep the faith and we will, but let’s hope the players know the gravity of the situation the club finds itself in. It seems like a nightmare scenario that is finally coming home to roost.

The games we have to save ourselves are starting to run out, which is why our game at Stoke City this coming Saturday has to be our most important game so far this season.

Of course a win will see Newcastle fans in orbit on Saturday evening, and that’s what we have to hope and pray for – but it’s now up to the players

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53 comments so far

  • batty

    Apr 7, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #1

    when we beat stoke it is game on

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #2

    well we wont get four wins with this muppet in the side

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  • Monster

    Apr 7, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #3

    RyanToon – bit unfair mate; he’s easily the best left back we have!

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  • broon ale

    Apr 7, 2009 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #4

    whats the odds on moobs man posting a comment on this topic.. thats bennytoon by the way. he’s a lonely fat baldy with moobs.. his new name is moobs!

    6 in a row moobs man!

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  • Mikeflame

    Apr 7, 2009 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #5

    I think Enrique is just what we need, cracking little player learning more every game!
    Anywho this is going to be a big test for Shearer, if he puts out a battling team similar to Chelski will we score, but if he gambles on kids, reserves etc could that bite him in the balls? Now losing against Chelsea was not a big issue to me, was bound to happen they are a bloody great team and Shearer had all of 2 days with the squad!
    But Stoke we need to win! No draws or losses we need 3 points to close the gap! We need to get goals which we have really struggled with! 4-3-3 will hopefully appear as Owen has regularly stated he likes the formation and last season it got us out of trouble fast!

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #6

    Ryantoon

    You have been agaisnt Enrique for far too long now. He has been one of our better players of late yet you still talk the same nonsense. Then again, i have raised questions about your knowledge of football in the past and your ability to spot a good player. It wasn’t too long ago that you were telling me Jo was never going to be good enough for the prem. How stupid you look now when he has scored around 5 or 6 goals in around 9 or 10 appearances

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #7

    …for Everton

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  • Toon_Factor

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #8

    Dragonera

    Jo is crap!

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #9

    dragonera. jo was woeful at man city, when i made the statement

    also enrique has has 3 good games since signing for us!

    i sat in the gallowgate on saturday and MOST fans think he is championship standard and i agree

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #10

    Toon Factor

    Yes, he is so crap he is scoring goals at the top level for a team likely to finish just outside of the top four.
    He is young and i have seen enough of him to recognise his clear talent. You, my friend, haven’t got a clue.

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #11

    “jo was woeful at man city”,

    which just reinforces my point. you can’t spot a good player unless they are on form at the time.

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #12

    dragonera

    jo was good in russia

    even MOYES said he isnt sure on him

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #13

    How embarrassing is it that fans of NUFC (18th) are calling players like Jo of Everton (6th) “crap”?!…Honestly, some people on here need to come down to earth.

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #14

    dragonera

    i spotted bassong before most (other than tomtoon)

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #15

    so dragonera. the reason everton are 6th is because of jo???

    dont be so STUPID

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #16

    RyanToon

    “Moyes said he is not sure”

    Use your brain lad. This obviously comes down to price as Man City paid way over the odds for him and will want to recuperate a large amount of that back. Also, by saying he is “unsure” it will ensure Jo continues to give his all in an attempt to sway the decision in his favour.

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #17

    Ryan

    EVERYONE spotted Bassong. You get no points for that.

    I am not saying Everton are 6th because of Jo (Although his goals have contributed largely).

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  • Toon_Factor

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #18

    Dragonera

    Eboue plays for Arsenal and is one of the worst players Ive ever seen. Arsenal are 4th, that doesnt means Eboue is a great player, get it.

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #19

    ok dragonera, jo is obviously one of your lovers like enrique

    some of our fans need to realise enrique is dung

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #20

    btw. dragonera, why do most of the goals we concede come down enriques side?? is that because hes good??

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #21

    Toon Factor

    Again, you prove you haven’t got a clue. Eboue is a good utility player and his pacey, direct style of play has served the gooners well many a time. His recent form has won back many of the arsenal fans that turned against him a few months back. I should know, my girlfriend is one.

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #22

    Ryantoon

    You prove almost everyday you no jack **** about football. Just the other day you were saying how 10million for Nani is too much and we should instead by Zaki. A player who has been grossly found out and has poor professionalism .

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #23

    buy*

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #24

    Ryantoon

    Have you got stats to back up your point about goals on our left side?

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  • Toon_Factor

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #25

    Dragonera

    Girls no nowt aboot football

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #26

    Toon Factor

    You are a half-wit. Debating with someone of your intellect is fruitless.

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #27

    dragonera

    i havent got stats but i do watch us and he is the weak link

    also nani is woeful (hint why fergie rarely plays him)

    zaki is class (yes i know he seems an ass but he may change, as will your opinion of enrique in the coming weeks

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #28

    “also nani is woeful (hint why fergie rarely plays him)”
    Oh you are 100% right, my mistake. Nani is woeful because he can’t hold down a regular place in the Premier League champions and Eiropean champions side. It doesn’t matter that he is only young, YOU are right. sorry sorry sorry

    “zaki is class”

    A comment with no substance at all. I have said it already, he has been found out to be an average/decent player. This is clear when you look at when he scored the majority of his goals and how unthreatening he looked for Wigan after that. Relying on penalties to knock up his goal count. Pathetic

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  • Toon_Factor

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #29

    Dragonera

    “Zaki”

    “Relying on penalties to knock up his goal count. Pathetic”

    Hmmm Relying on pentalties. Your bum chum Jo doesnt rely on penalties to knock up his goal count does he?

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #30

    Also, your point about Enrique being the weak link has no substance. You are just talking ****, mate.

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #31

    Toon Factor

    “bum chum”….wow

    This is the last comment i will send your way as you seem a complete moron. As far as i can remember Jo has only scored one penalty for Everton, but i am not 100% on this. Anyway, the point is, Jo is still scoring goals in open play and looking a threat for Everton. Cant say the same about Zaki.

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #32

    dragonera. is it isnt enriques fault, it must be bassong then?? eh?? stop sticking up for enrique, what has he done for the club other than constantly hoofing the ball out of play and woeful passes???

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #33

    Ryantoon

    No one is saying Enrique doesn’t have his faults, but defensively he has been pretty sound for the last few months at least. If you were to single out Coloccini i couldn’t argue, but Enrique has not been a weak link at all. Yes his forward play is grossly inconsistent, but if we had a midfield that he had faith in he wouldn’t feel the need to hoof it long all of the time.

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #34

    Our problem is midfield and their lack of quality. We constantly lose the ball in the middle of the park as they can’t string two passes together. This puts the defense under far more pressure than they should be under and naturally increases the frequency of mistakes. As soon as we get a decent midfield all of our defenders will look much better. Especially super Bass.

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  • Toon_Factor

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #35

    Dragonera

    I do apologise for not writing up to your standard of English. This is a football forum not a grammer test. Cabeza de mierda!

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  • Dragonera

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #36

    …and Colo, who needs to be taken out of the firing line for the time being.

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #37

    right dragonera lets settle this lol

    maybe in being OVER critical about jose (as there are others not pulling there weight)

    but imo enrique is good enough to be starting in the prem league. if we go down then he will be class because thats his level

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #38

    also dragonera, why do you think enrique starts for us??
    ill tell you why

    we have NO other left back

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  • UTD111

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #39

    Ignore Dragonera lads – he could start an argument with himself in the chip shop queue……

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  • RyanToon

    Apr 7, 2009 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #40

    just so you dont think im being harsh on precious jose

    imo

    coloccini isnt good enough
    duff isnt good enough
    nolan isnt good enough
    r.taylor isnt good enough
    smith isn good enough

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