The Newcastle fans are more worried about staying in the Premier League right now, but there will be some changes made in the summer, and one of them will be who will be appointed as the long-term manager at the club.
Joe Kinnear – will he be abck this summer?
We’ll take a little break from our relegation worries, and discuss what the likelihood is that Alan will stay on, or Joe will come back in the summer.
Officially Joe Kinnear is the manager right now with Alan Shearer filling in for Joe over the last 8 games of the season, in Joe’s absence after open heart surgery. We think that was a good decision by Ashley, because you can’t expect a man to come back after such a serious operation, and try to save Newcatsle United from relegation, and we had said that for weeks.
But of course Derek Llambias did say that Joe Kinnear would come back to manage the club in the summer, but since last week, hasn’t said anything on the subject.
The changes Alan Shearer has made at the club seemed to have been welcomed within the dressing room, where there is already talk about the chances of the club’s all-time leading scorer (206 goals) taking over from Joe Kinnear on a full-time basis.
Goalkeeper Steve Harper , who used to room with Alan on away trips, and is a good friend of the Tyneside Idol said today:
“In the short term, I would like it to be very successful,” “In the next seven weeks, as long as there are three teams that finish below us, there will be a big clamor for him to stay but we will cross that bridge when we come to it.”
“Alan, I mean the gaffer – I’m doing it on purpose – said that would be a scenario we would all like to happen. So if three finish below us, that would be great.”
“It is still the first week but he has instilled discipline and professionalism and players have responded to him and appreciated it. It has gone down well with the lads.”
We think Alan will become the long term manager if the lads manage to stay up, because then he will have come in and got the results and proved he deserves the jopb long term – end of story.
Even so, Alan will have to talk to Mike Ashley long and hard because he, and also the Newcastle fans, don’t want another complete mess next season, and if Alan takes the job, he must be given time.
The murky bit is if Alan fails to save us from relegation, and then it’s an open question as to who will be manager this summer.
We’d like Alan to still take over because that would protect Ashley from the wrath of the Geordie fans, and the talk this summer would all be about coming straight back up, as Alan wheels and deals in the transfer market to put a decent squad together.
Shearer would need to greatly reduce the wage bill of course, and we can kiss goodbye to players like Viduka, Owen, Cacapa, Geremi, Smith, Martins, Coloccini, Gutierrez and even more.
The alternative is that Joe Kinnear could still return for a couple of seasons, and his job would be to get us back up, but whether Alan would want to relinquish the job, even if we are relegated, is still dubious to us.
In short we think Alan will be the manager whatever happens – we hope Alan will be the manager whatever happens. 😀
But yes, first things first, and we have to put our energy into supporting the lads, as we try to keep the club in the Premier League.
But let us know your thoughts on who the new manager should be in the summer, in the two situations above.
Howay The Lads!!
27 comments so far
Stuart79
Apr 11, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Comment #1Absolutely no doubt about it- Kinnear will be back in charge next season whichever division were in.
There is no money at the club to spend on new players and Shearer would want that. He knows like everyone(apart from Mike Ashley) that if no investment is made in the summer we’ll go down next season.
Kinnear will take the job regardless. That’s why the club are hell bent on having him back!
This is how far we have fallen. Such a shame!
hitman
Apr 11, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Comment #2spot on stuart,kinnear is a yes man,shearer isnt.
davichc
Apr 11, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Comment #3Defo Shearer IMO
MA knows he is on his last chance here and that the fans, although fond of JK, will not willingly accept him back as manager.
He DOES have money for players, he has just so far chosen not to spend what needs spent. This has to change weather it is Shearer or JK who is manager come August next year.
If he does not spend then he surely will loose far more money in the long term due to falling gates and relegation.
Steve_48
Apr 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Comment #4In which case the latter is always best, no one wants a suck arse
Stuart79
Apr 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Comment #5Steve_48 // Apr 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM
In which case the latter is always best, no one wants a suck arse
Ashley obviously does!
He’s only got Shearer in to protect his precious investment, he’ll not think twice about reverting back to Kinnear in the Summer.
Toon Graeme
Apr 11, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Comment #6Oh joy and we have been so good under Kinnear havent we. Shearer’s mini reign is yet to be proven. I hope and pray that we stay up.
Did I sleep last night – no. Why – 1730pm. That says it all.
MarkO
Apr 11, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Comment #7I dont want either of them tbh.
Want Shearer to stay on as assistant whoever the new manager is though.
Diego Cagna would be the best choice.
Widowmaker
Apr 11, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Comment #8Certainly not Wise. 🙂
Johno Toon
Apr 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Comment #9Cant see Joe staying on for health reasons , would be happy with Shearer to stay on , regardless if we stay up or not, but if he doesnt stay my choice would be Jol
Chris G
Apr 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Comment #10Worrying quote:
“It is still the first week but he has instilled discipline and professionalism and players have responded to him and appreciated it.”
So is he saying that before Alan Shearer arrived the players weren’t disciplined and professional?
Fostino
Apr 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Comment #11Chris G…..i wouldnt read too much into it but obviously they werent considering were in the bottom three
with shearer at the helms, I think we would finally see some manager stability which is what we badly need!! i would never turn on shearer management….i hope he stays!!!
re stuart: surely we as fans won’t allow joe to be taken back, he is not right for the club in any way or form, he only adds to the media circus surrounding the club!! i don’t mean to be too harsh on joe considereing he was brave enough to come in and take us but surely even he must realise that he is not the man for the job!!! if ashley wants to finally start making things right, he needs to give the job to shearer nd dowie permanantly
Girth
Apr 11, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Comment #12Dennis Wise for manager!!!
Toon Graeme
Apr 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Comment #13Girth – I do hope you are taking the piste?
MarkO
Apr 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Comment #14Diego Cagna as manager
Greg B
Apr 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Comment #15I have a good feeling that if we stay up (big IF) then Shearer will stay on with Joe moving onto some other capacity, I think if the 2 can work together (Shearer in charge) we could do OK.
The big issue is transfer funds, which will be limited, however I think if we get the likes of Viduka, Cacapa, Butt, Geremi and Smith, and most probably Owen, then Shearer could be given a nice little kitty to spend on decent, hard working players as opposed to ‘big names’.
Plus he would have a couple comming through from the reserves, Carroll most certainly, LuaLua etc.
However in reality Shearer will probably go back to MOTD and Joe will continue his blind praise of the man who got us in this situation in the first place, M. Ashley esq!
sirjasontoon
Apr 11, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Comment #16I would rather Dig up Cloughie than have JK next season…think we are going to be in a football wilderness for a while.
buddy
Apr 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Comment #17”It is still the first week but he has instilled discipline and professionalism and players have responded to him and appreciated it”
I think that comment is statement enough as to why jk should not be let near a managers position.
stuart,
JFK will not be in charge next year regardless,he might be a ‘yes’ man but he is also a clown. every man and his dog can see that, even ed, the most optimistic nufc fan i know, seems to struggle to praise his ability. Ashley too will know this. therfore he will NOT be put back in charge. IF he is then i would officially never forgive ashley for everything else he has done as that would show an complete lack of ambition
anyway thats for another day
Howay the lads
Greg B
Apr 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Comment #18If Shearer goes bring in Ketsbaia the Georgian Geordie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA2VnCvSJ5M
Pity he didnt bang a few more of those in for us, maybe Sir Bobby wouldnt have sold him to the Wolves!
TonyGreenSupreme
Apr 11, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Comment #19Message for JFK-
Best wishes in you recovery from heart surgery, now stay aware from SJP as you are absolutely useless…………………………..
Nick D
Apr 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Comment #20Davichc – fans are fond of Kinnear – What !!!!!!!
Yes, how we have all being missing the insidious long ball, negative, offsides, physical, alleged football, allied to a totally inflexible 4-4-2, no plan B, poor tactics, poor substitutions, no youth development and cringe expletive filled rants at the media. Oh joy, can’t wait !!!
Seriously, could you imagine a bigger anti climax if Kinnear really is to return as manager next season, aappart from Worky ( kinnear’s love child)
Tom_Toon
Apr 11, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Comment #21Kinnear is a dinosaur and to be perfectly honest and harsh, if it were a choice between his death and him managing us for the next 2 seasons.
I’d rather he died.
Tom_Toon
Apr 11, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Comment #22If he died, he would only cause pain to his family, not 200k (estimated NUFC fan) people because he got us relegated.
chuck
Apr 11, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Comment #23You are a sick puppy TOM_TOON, apologise !
As far as Al or Joe, dont really want either, dont think Joe`s health is up to it or that he is the right man for the job.
Give him the head scout role or a place on the board.
As for Al, sure he was a local hero as a player, but from what I have seen of him as a manager
(yes early days I know) he appears clueless on the sideline and his changing both shape and selection at this stage is bewildering to both fans and players.
To-days second half following a reverting to 442 brought an enormous improvement.
As far as someone to manage the club (incidentally the 18th. wealthiest club in the world) Martin Jol has announced he would like a return to the PL, dont know if he would be interested in comming to Newcastle or not, but he has a proven track record and could be just the man for the job.
If he is `nt interested then offer it to Steve Clarke @ W/ Ham, great trainer, has improved the Hammers a great deal. Its a small step from trainer to manager, it`s a giant step from player to manager.
Let Shearer learn the business elsewhere or continue his career as a pundit, we need to rebuild a team that has been dismantled by the
parsimony of the owner.
Hey if it`s your intention to compete in the big leagues, you have to spend, wisely sure, but there`s no avoiding it, RIGHT MIKE !
Tom_Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Comment #24Steve Clarke, another ametuer.
Tom_Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Comment #25To be honest, if Kinnear were manager next season ang got us relegated heir would be more than once suicide.
So its basically kill a man to save 2 🙂
Tom_Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Comment #26Ehhhh, what am I saying.
I dont want Kinnear to be manager next season or be at the club at all.
I’ll be absolutely distraught if he is manager next season, no matter what league we are in.
Tom_Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:44 AM
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