It’s hard to talk about the summer transfer market for Newcastle until we have a better idea, either way, on whether we will stay in the Premier League.
Michael Owen – gone if we get relegated
Michael Owen is of course out of contract in the summer, and if we do go down then he will leave the club, even if Shearer stays on as manager. We just cannot afford him, and he’d hardly want to play in the Championship, at this stage ion his career – and with the World Cup in South Africa next summer.
And if we go down we will also unload Viduka, Smith, Cacapa, Geremi, Martins, Coloccini, Gutierrez, and maybe Xisco and Enrique. The club will save enormously on wages with most of these fringe players leaving, and if we can keep the rest, we should have the making of a decent squad in the Championship.
Alan was asked by the Sunday Sun today whether Michael would be saying but of course it has nothing to do with Alan right now, as he answered:
“It is not in my brief,” “It has not come up and I don’t expect it to until we know where we are.”
“Michael will be a very big player for us. It is up to give him the ammunition.”
Only when we either know we’ll stay up or know the opposite, will we be able to determine what the transfer window will look like, and which players we will be after.
But either way we have to get rid of these high-priced players who have produced nothing for the club this season.
Either way, we’d like to see Alan stay on as manager, that’s for sure.
Comments welcome.
105 comments so far
pearceet
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Comment #1so basically over a year we will have lost nearly entire 1st team because of Ashley we cannot afford to go down as a club
Tom_Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Comment #2What the hell Ed, thinking we will sell Enrique; again!
The players I want to go are:
Ryan Taylor
Coloccini
Cacapa (leaving anyway)
Nolan
Duff
Geremi
Smith
Lovenkrands (he aint been bad, but I’d prefer a youngster to play)
Ameobi
Owen
Viduka (like him but injury prone)
with Edgar and Nacho leaving anyway.
Tom_Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Comment #3Dont really want Edgar to go though.
Toon_Factor
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Comment #4If we stay up outs:
Cacapa
R.Taylor
Geremi
Duff
Butt
Smith
Ameobi
Owen
Viduka
Lovenkrands.
dougnufc
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Comment #5Edgar proved yesterday that he can be a useful back up player.
MarkO
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Comment #6Players out :
Viduka
Owen
Cacapa
Duff
Geremi
Smith
Nolan
Brutooon
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Comment #7who do u guys think those players that will stay with us?
i think
1)S.Taylor
2)Beye
3)Edgar
4)Butt (probably he is not good enough to be bought by other BPL club)
5)Ameobi ( the championship is where he should be)
The rest of the players can easily be sign by other clubs including bassong (he wouldnt play at the championship!)
In the end, Owen would be happy because he received $$$ from his remaining contract by only running around the pitch
Purely Belter
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Comment #8Owen will go whatever happens…. at least i hope
Gunners
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Comment #9Is Tom_Toon even supporting Newcastle?
Macedonia toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Comment #10The players they must go:
BUTT
BUTT
BUTT :):)):)
AMEOBI
AMEOBI:):)):)
CACAPA
VIDUKA old and too much injury prone
In:
Jovetic (fiorentina)
Jonson, Elano(man city)
Hudelstone(tottenham)
if Owen goes we should take Bent(Tottenham)maybe Bentley and Alan
Hutton if they are cheap enough.
Doocey
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Comment #11Let’s not think about players and the Championship right now – Lets battle to the very very end
Hugh de Payen
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Comment #12If we stay up a clear-out is difficult.
Our squad was strained as it was this season and we won’t get the transfer funds to replace anything like a 10-man clear-out.
There are a lot I’d like to see the back of though.
Since the first Keegan era we’ve gradually been replacing good players with less good players in all positions, which has taken us from a being a top 2 team, to being just European contenders, to being a mid-table team to being the relegation fodder we now are.
The dream of a team of ‘young potential’ – based on the team as it is now – is nonsense in my opinion.
We need a solid backbone of 3 or 4 top quality players first – players who won’t be injured all the time too – and *then* we can buy young, relatively undiscovered talent to play around them.
Magical_Gutierrez
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Comment #13I agree with Tom_Toon about the players that need to go. Apart from Owen.
We need to build around STEVEN Taylor, Beye, Bassong, Owen, Martins and Jonas.
The rest i wouldnt be so sad to see leave.
mcvicar
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Comment #14hope alan stays and builds a team oves the next few seasons i just cant see jk doing that he would constantly be in hospital and its wrong for ashley to let him go through that so give alan the job if he wants it
Tom_Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Comment #15Hugh de Payen // Apr 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM
If we stay up a clear-out is difficult.
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Exactly that is why staying up is so depressing and I dont think relegation is the end of our club.
Hugh de Payen
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Comment #16Can we clear out the dead wood and build a decent team on £10m a season?
Jezza
Apr 12, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Comment #17Above all others the one player who must go is Ameobi, he will be just as useless in the Championship, mark my words. To think that he was earmarked for a long overdue free transfer in the summer till the poison dwarf and ‘Joke In Here’ inexplicably gave him a new three year contract.
The one thing I fear is that we could get stuck with certain players like Smith, Geremi, Barton etc as it will be difficult enough to find a buyer for them, never mind somebody who will be prepared to pay their £60,000 a week wages. If these players aren’t prepared to take a significant pay cut to join another club, we could be stuck paying their wages in the Championship and that could plunge us into desperate financial trouble.
Tom_Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Comment #18Who will pay Duff’s 80k a week wages?!?!
Dragonera
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Comment #19I don’t want to see Coloccini go. He is only in his first season and played a hell of a lot of football. I always think it is smart to give players from the La Liga a couple of seasons to really find their form. Most of them take a little while to settle in.
Doocey
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Comment #20Newcastle being relegated would be a massive loss, not only to us but to football in general
Marty-Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Comment #21TOM TOON and TOON FACTOR
If we stay up and we sell all those players do you think MA will buy 15/18 players instead?
As we said many times that we have too small a squad.
Many of the Youngsters we want to play need to be blooded like they do in MAn-U but they don`t play every week just once in awhile.
I agree tyo get rid of
Shola
Viduka
Geremi
Cacapa
Smith
Butt
and maybe Collocini unless he plays in DM
Little Willie
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Comment #22The club needs squad players on low wages like Ryan Taylor who can fill a few positions so I don’t see the rush to get rid of him.
If we stay up and Boro go down then we should move for Wheater as a partner for Bassong.
Hugh de Payen
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Comment #23Dragonera, I would agree with you about Colo if it wasn’t for the fact that – due to injuries and such – he’s had to play in every match bar one, and he’s not up to that yet.
I think we need an experienced, proven-quality Premiership defender to come in and take control of that defence.
I think Beye, Bassong and Taylor are capable enough if they have a strong ‘leader’ in defence to organize them. I would then see someone like Colo coming in for occasional games until he finds his confidence and starts to challenge for a first team place.
Then we need players who can contribute the same experience and leadership as the likes of Nobby Solano and Gary Speed to act as the ‘core’ of the midfield, around which younger players like Jonas and Guthrie can be placed.
JJJ
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Comment #24How do you build a team around Owen? The guy is cr@p. And even if he stayed in the championship there are players who would do a better job.
FFS how is it that some morons just cannot see how pathetic this guy is? If he was on 20-30k a week I’d say ok he does a job but on 110k and a waste of space as a captain. It irritates the living sh!t out of me. And his purchase has been a major major major contributing factor to our downfall.
He is a worse buy than Marcelino in my opinion.
At least that injury prone Spaniard didnt cripple the club’s finances.
The day Owen and Butt piss off is the day we can start to rebuild this club.
workyticket
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Comment #25I wonder if he’ll put those green and orange fluorescent tags on the players like Sports Direct? 🙂
Tom_Toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Comment #26Marty – Thats the point, we wont get the chane to rebuild if we stay up.
Have you not been reading the other comments on this thread?!!?
JJJ
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Comment #27And agree agree with Dragonera,
Colo has been playing cr@p lately but he has been quality for the past 8 years.
That quality doesnt go away.
The best defender in the league is Vidic yet if you judge him on his last 8 games he’s be one of the worst. (but we know he is good).
Newcastle fans need to have more patience with players like Colo and give them a couple seasons without getting on their back. It is for this reason (fans breaking players) that we cannot attract top class talent anymore.
Some people still want to give Owen a chance but the F#cker has been here four years and hasnt had one good season,yet we are saying get rid of Colo because of 3/4 bad games.
Some Newcastle fans are a joke and I think from what I saw yesterday cannot (at this moment in time even begin to say they are the best fans in England) Stoke are three times better as supporters.
We need to have more patience with certain players and less with others like F@g Michael Owen.
The best thing we can do is get a foreign manager because Newcastle has become like an Old England Boys Club.
Paul141726
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Comment #28Doesn’t it all come down to the fact that this squad has been put together by a hit-and-miss system? Those resposible for bringing in players just wanted a warm body to plug in to the side without having ANY idea of how those players would fit into a side and how that side was going to play. It seems like all we can do is take constant punishment and hope to get something off a set piece, counter attack (ha ha) or more likely, just “dumn luck”.
Dragonera
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Comment #29We dont need Wheater. Beye shoul move to CB permanently as he is a good partner for Bassong. Both quality players and S.Taylor can move to RB.
Our best back four is
S.Taylor——–Beye———Bassong——–Jose
Coloccini will provide competition or come in at DM.
Dragonera
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Comment #30Villa’s top four chase is well and truthfully over.
JJJ
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM
Comment #31The only world class English players worth their salt are Gerrard, Beckham, Rooney, and Terry.
And in he recent past Shearer and Scholes.
Owen was good from 17-23 years of age, since then hes been crap.
Lampard can be class if the team plays with a system that allows him to play a free role (alla Chelsea with one striker).
Ferdinand has become a very good defender but isnt a great.
There is a reason England havnt won anything since 1966, because there is too much expection and not a good enough team.
Sound familiar with Newcastle???
DanToon
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Comment #32Next Season…
………………..Harper
Baye – Wheater – Bassong – Enrique
………Guthire – Barton- Jonas
………………Di Maria
…………Carroll – Martins
Subs: Krul, Nolan, R. Taylor, Baines, S. Taylor, Owen?, Coloccini.
Manager – Shearer, Dowie.
workyticket
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Comment #33Dragonera // Apr 12, 2009 at 1:29 PM
“Villa’s top four chase is well and truthfully over.”
Inter Toto hangover affecting a very small squad Dragonera. We had the same thing under Roeder before we sacked him. We might get something off them again in the last game of the season.
JJJ
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Comment #34Dan Toon,
If it comes to Owen staying if we stay up, then I truthfully hope we get relegated for our long term benefit.
Tom Toon
You are clued up with the Russian leagues, how do you rate:
Sirl
Srna
Pogrebnyak
JJJ
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Comment #35I really think Carew and Martins would form a good strike partnership – they may not be the nost clinical in front of goal, but boy oh boy would they be a handful for defenders.
The other thing is we need to invest in a goal scoring midfielder (all the top teams have one)
Man U – Ronaldo, Scholes etc
Liverpool – Gerrard
Chelsea – Lampard, Kalou
Arsenal – Fabregas, Arshavin, Rosicky
Everton – Cahill
Villa – Petrov, Young
Who is out there that would come here and fits that mould of player????
Dragonera
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Comment #36Spurs will go for Carew in the Summer. You cvan bet on that.
Macedonia toon
Apr 12, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Comment #37“The other thing is we need to invest in a goal scoring midfielder (all the top teams have one)”
Good point JJJ.
We should buy Elano,Jonson(Man city), Hudelstone(Tottenham), Jovetic (fiorentina) this players are good goal scoring midfielders..
Dragonera
Apr 12, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Comment #38Thinking about it, NUFC need to get with the times. Formation for Spurs should be 4-2-3-1.
————————Harper———————-
S.Taylor——-Beye———Bassong——Jose
——————Guthrie——Butt—————-
Gutierrez————-Owen——————Duff
———————Martins/Carroll————–
Dragonera
Apr 12, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Comment #39I personally feel Barton and Guthrie can be our goal scoring CM’s. We just need them to form a partnership and get a good run of games under their belt.
roscoe
Apr 12, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Comment #40Spurs Away LOST
Pompey Home WON
Liverpool Away LOST
Boro Home WON
Fulham Home DRAW
Villa Away LOST
37pts = SAFE